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Edgar Erebus
11-23-2006, 02:51 PM
I'm talking bout albums, not "Takeover" or "Ether" - remember that when posting opinions.

I go with Blueprint, it was more consistant, around same level of rapping as Nas's and WAAAAY better production.

Edgar Erebus
11-23-2006, 02:53 PM
P.S. Illmatic in poll is typing mistake... if some mod can correct it to Stillmatic. Thanx in advance...

cap
11-23-2006, 02:56 PM
wow good question.
nope cant choose.

Prolifical ENG
11-23-2006, 03:58 PM
Ok i fixed the poll.

But no I cant decide...I can only say they are like 2 of my children...I cant love one more than the other.

INF
11-23-2006, 04:11 PM
Blueprint.

The production was better and the album as a whole was more consistant. Stillmatic kinda fell off at the end. Both had some classics though and I aint talkin about the diss tracks.

Fav. Stillmatic song - The flyest
Fav. Blueprint song - Girls, Girls, Girls (remix)

Alesco
11-23-2006, 04:16 PM
Nas.

grimey
11-23-2006, 04:21 PM
nas-stillmatic

Grongle
11-23-2006, 04:23 PM
Stillmatic

Dante
11-23-2006, 04:25 PM
Stillmatic. fav song on that is Rewind, but i think i like my favorite song on Blueprint better, which is Lyrical Excersice

TAURO
11-23-2006, 04:34 PM
Stillmatic

PANDA PISS
11-23-2006, 04:42 PM
blueprint by a mile, its a classic

stillmatic was average like all nas albums except illmatic

Alesco
11-23-2006, 04:44 PM
Lost tapes is a classic, or dont you think so ?

PANDA PISS
11-23-2006, 04:49 PM
Lost tapes is a classic, or dont you think so ?

yeah it is, but its not a proper album, its tracks that got left off 3 other albums

Alesco
11-23-2006, 05:01 PM
Its still an album though. imo

PANDA PISS
11-23-2006, 05:17 PM
i know, but i dont count it, and if i did it would be the exception, nas cant make classic, or even great albums anymore. just average ones, you know what i mean, the lost tapes should have been on those 3 albums, cos they sucked
it baffles me that an album like 'i am' couldnt have used one or two of those tracks

Alesco
11-23-2006, 05:20 PM
I hear ya bruv.

So you dont like Nas. Hey man, thats your choice man.

And thats cool, coz your opinion is wat matters most bruv.

Peace

PANDA PISS
11-23-2006, 05:22 PM
i didnt say i didnt like nas, i said he cant make albums

Alesco
11-23-2006, 05:42 PM
Imo though, Nas can and will continue to make great albums.

I guess it all comes down to wat people think a great album is.

Peace sosa

Prolifical ENG
11-23-2006, 06:05 PM
Nas makes exceptional albums.

Alesco
11-23-2006, 06:10 PM
Nas makes exceptional albums.

Mos def man.

Nas was born to spit the truth man.

TAURO
11-23-2006, 07:48 PM
Blueprint is a borderline boring album, I shelved it quick, no replay value.

snapple
11-23-2006, 07:52 PM
Lost tapes is a classic, or dont you think so ?


i think nas has had dropped 3 classics, but blueprint stomps all over stillmatic.

Alesco
11-23-2006, 07:55 PM
Thats wat its all about snapple.

We all have diffarent opinions about it, you know.

And thats how it should be to.

The world would be a lame place if we always agreed on things.

Peace fam

Dante
11-23-2006, 09:25 PM
Illmatic
Lost Tapes
Stillmatic

^^^ Nas' classics IMO

Longbongcilvaringz
11-24-2006, 12:02 AM
Blueprint is a borderline boring album, I shelved it quick, no replay value.



exactly, i dont fucking get people on this site at all.

stillmatic by miles.

renagade410
11-24-2006, 12:10 AM
when i first heard the blueprint i wasnt impressed at all but stillmatic had me listening to it many of times so for me this is a no brainer u got rewind, one mic, ETHER, shit the whole cd then when you factor in the infamous outshining of jay-z on renagade its really no match stillmatic>the blueprint a better discussion would be stillmatic vs reasonable doubt

Dante
11-24-2006, 10:45 AM
Am i the only person to think Jay came off better than Em on renegade??

Dante
11-24-2006, 10:46 AM
a better discussion would be illmatic vs reasonable doubt


.

makalani
11-24-2006, 11:12 AM
stillmatic by miles

Edgar Erebus
11-24-2006, 11:43 AM
Am i the only person to think Jay came off better than Em on renegade??

They were on about same level there IN MY FUCKING OPINION. And those people just repeat same line from "Ether". If Nas didn't write that no one would even notice

SaqurakiHanamichi
11-24-2006, 12:01 PM
stillmatic is one of my fav albums , But blueprint has a crazy production.

fav stillmatic song is the intro . Ur da man ,and poison

wuswordz95
11-24-2006, 12:08 PM
jayz sucks. gza and nas 4 life

snakesonawiggly
11-24-2006, 12:36 PM
I was going to vote for Illmatic but then I remembered Girls, Girls, Girls was on The Blueprint so I had to vote Hov.

Dante
11-24-2006, 12:40 PM
. And those people just repeat same line from "Ether". If Nas didn't write that no one would even notice


Agreed 110%. Thats how i always felt about that shit.

PANDA PISS
11-24-2006, 06:34 PM
this site has an astounding number of people dickriding nas
this isnt a 'whos a better emcee' thread
blueprint is a better album
you cant have an album full of wack beats and a few good ones and say its better than the blueprint
nas wasnt even on his A-Game lyrically on stillmatic, gods son was better in that respect

and dont get it twisted, nas is in my top ten easy, but he fell off after illmatic

crass
11-24-2006, 06:36 PM
stillmatic is very overrated. i think people lik eit so much because nas released it released after TWO HORRIBLE ALBUMS

Imperial1
11-24-2006, 06:40 PM
Am i the only person to think Jay came off better than Em on renegade??

Probably so.

Imperial1

Imperial1
11-24-2006, 06:43 PM
this site has an astounding number of people dickriding nas


Or maybe the people you call "dickriding" Nas don't agree that Blueprint was all that good of an album.

What's next? You're going to start calling us "haters?" GTFOH ->

Imperial1

PANDA PISS
11-24-2006, 06:43 PM
i think renegades was dope, no outshining there
lyrically they had great verses, just depends whos voice and flow you prefer imo

PANDA PISS
11-24-2006, 06:45 PM
Or maybe the people you call "dickriding" Nas don't agree that Blueprint was all that good of an album.

What's next? You're going to start calling us "haters?" GTFOH ->

Imperial1

its simple: theyre kidding themselves
nas makes 3 or 4 hot joints per album
the rest is trash cos he cant pick beats

blueprint is a muthafuckin classic

Prolifical ENG
11-24-2006, 06:48 PM
I ono I thought the poll would have been closer.

I think Nas really does have good albums, as well as Jay-Z. I dont think its about people diskriding Nas, its just when the Jay-Z haters come in...

Alesco
11-24-2006, 06:50 PM
this site has an astounding number of people dickriding nas
this isnt a 'whos a better emcee' thread
blueprint is a better album
you cant have an album full of wack beats and a few good ones and say its better than the blueprint
nas wasnt even on his A-Game lyrically on stillmatic, gods son was better in that respect

and dont get it twisted, nas is in my top ten easy, but he fell off after illmatic

Nas is always on his game (Lyrically) and spirritually, so i dont understand
your comment..

I dont dick ride any one bruv.. I recognise REALNESS, And Nas is real..

Jay is not real anymore... Jay sold OUT man

Imperial1
11-24-2006, 06:50 PM
its simple: they have opinions

Fixed it for ya.

Imperial1

Imperial1
11-24-2006, 06:52 PM
I ono I thought the poll would have been closer.

I think Nas really does have good albums, as well as Jay-Z. I dont think its about people diskriding Nas, its just when the Jay-Z haters come in...

There's that word. Maybe I should've done a count down.

Imperial1

PANDA PISS
11-24-2006, 07:11 PM
Nas is always on his game (Lyrically) and spirritually, so i dont understand
your comment..

I dont dick ride any one bruv.. I recognise REALNESS, And Nas is real..

Jay is not real anymore... Jay sold OUT man
what the fuck is nas doing then?! he signed to a fuckin sellout label with a big sellout as a boss!
Fixed it for ya.

Imperial1
thankya

anyone who thinks stillmatic to be better than blueprint is either full of shit or hasnt heard the blueprint

Imperial1
11-24-2006, 07:30 PM
what the fuck is nas doing then?! he signed to a fuckin sellout label with a big sellout as a boss!

thankya

anyone who thinks stillmatic to be better than blueprint is either full of shit or hasnt heard the blueprint

I think stillmatic is 10x better than blueprint and I HAVE heard both albums. Damn shame people think "girls, girls, girls" is that great of a song. GTFOH.

Imperial1

Alesco
11-24-2006, 07:32 PM
Yo my bro...

I have heard the blueprint, And i never liked it...

Thats my own mutha fucking opinion man..

Nas has more flow in his left thum than Jay-z.


O, and by the way bruv..

Nas has never sold out. I dont care what label he is with.

Nas represents people like my self in this life brother.

I respect your feelings though..

Peace

Alesco
11-24-2006, 07:34 PM
^^ My last post was for sosa

PANDA PISS
11-24-2006, 07:40 PM
aleso have you heard the old jigga?
like on kanes 'show n prove', jazs 'the originators'
jiggas own 'i cant get wid dat'?
Iw7BoWSquUs

12weLvE
11-24-2006, 07:48 PM
Pure classics, both meant a lot to hip hop, but shit I got to go with Stillmatic.

Alesco
11-24-2006, 07:49 PM
Peace ma brother sosa.

But ma name is Alesco kid.

Dante
11-24-2006, 08:02 PM
just depends whos voice and flow you prefer imo


Jigga's by a landslide

Dante
11-24-2006, 08:05 PM
what the fuck is nas doing then?! he signed to a fuckin sellout label with a big sellout as a boss!

thankya

anyone who thinks stillmatic to be better than blueprint is either full of shit or hasnt heard the blueprint


Kid, I have The Blueprint, and if you have seen any of the other Jay-Z threads around here, you'll see me always giving him props and defending him from these other stupid haters; With that being said, i still think Stillmatic is much better than Blueprint, so get the fuck out of here with this "If you think Blueprint is better you're full of shit" shit. If you like BP better, then cool, but theres no need to disrespect other people opinion's.

SaqurakiHanamichi
11-24-2006, 08:05 PM
man the blueprint plays a big role in the rap game , because if jayz dident diss him , then nas wouldent come out with stillmatic. And stillmatic Was a classic album because nas back to the game hard... And he came back hard because jayz said he is better then nas.

if it wasent for jayz dissing him, stillmatic would of had a different sound

Alesco
11-24-2006, 08:06 PM
^^ Yea bruv..

Thats wat Hip Hop is all about man.

We all have our own opinions. you know

Dante
11-24-2006, 08:07 PM
man the blueprint plays a big role in the rap game , because if jayz dident diss him , then nas wouldent come out with stillmatic. And stillmatic Was a classic album because nas back to the game hard... And he came back hard because jayz said he is better then nas.

if it wasent for jayz dissing him, stillmatic would of had a different sound


Even tho i like Stillmatic better, i agree with what you said...Takeover ressurected Nas, and killed Prodigy at the same time...

Imperial1
11-24-2006, 08:21 PM
Even tho i like Stillmatic better, i agree with what you said...Takeover ressurected Nas, and killed Prodigy at the same time...

That was a low blow to diss Nas while his moms was dying. Nas never needed ressurecting. If Jay had not dissed him, Stillmatic would've been great with or without the battle.

Imperial1

Alesco
11-24-2006, 08:22 PM
Yea man..

There is only one person who Ressurected Nas though....


And His Name Is Nasir Jones

Longbongcilvaringz
11-24-2006, 10:25 PM
this site has an astounding number of people dickriding nas
this isnt a 'whos a better emcee' thread
blueprint is a better album
you cant have an album full of wack beats and a few good ones and say its better than the blueprint
nas wasnt even on his A-Game lyrically on stillmatic, gods son was better in that respect

and dont get it twisted, nas is in my top ten easy, but he fell off after illmatic



right...you called blueprint a classic, thats dickriding at its highest.

blueprint is a fucking average album, in terms of beats and rhymes, get over jay-z.

SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS
11-24-2006, 10:32 PM
i know, but i dont count it, and if i did it would be the exception, nas cant make classic, or even great albums anymore. just average ones, you know what i mean, the lost tapes should have been on those 3 albums, cos they sucked
it baffles me that an album like 'i am' couldnt have used one or two of those tracks

to quote Jay-Z "Do You listen to music or just skim thru it" which i think is what cha did cuz if you listen to stillmatic is great album with the exception of one song which was taken off after later pressings, "Braveheart Party" other than that the song the album is very creative and crazy. Jay-Z is dope in my eyes but cannot make songs like "Rewind", "One Mic", "Rule", "Got Your Self A.." or other songs like that. this was Nas' return to form.

My Vote=Stillmatic

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
11-24-2006, 10:33 PM
Its still an album though. imo


co-sign The Lost Tapes gives off the vibe of a cohesive album

I like both of the two albums mentioned but if i had to choose i'd pick Stillmatic, the lyricism and content are much deeper

I like that more

tical2000
11-25-2006, 01:09 AM
Anyone who says STILLMATIC is lying to themselves....

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
11-25-2006, 01:11 AM
I'm pretty damn confident in my opinion, I don't lie to myself.

GENERAL WISE
11-25-2006, 01:18 AM
i dont have an opinion cause i am sleeping on both albums.

BRONZBODY
11-25-2006, 01:54 AM
stillmatic.....blueprint is WAY overrated to me


sorry

beardman
11-25-2006, 03:43 AM
stillmatic.....blueprint is WAY overrated to me


sorry

Same opinion.
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Rebel_INS
11-25-2006, 05:28 AM
Stillmatic.

Weng
11-25-2006, 05:52 AM
of course blueprint LOL. thats like asking "whats better ? illmatic or reasonable doubt ?"

PANDA PISS
11-25-2006, 08:40 AM
of course blueprint LOL. thats like asking "whats better ? illmatic or reasonable doubt ?"

thank you

were having a healthy debate here, but some cats just wanna bring it down to "thats your opinion"

fact is stillmatic had wack beats, he lost on ether, got ur self a... was fuckin lame etc
blueprint was an introspective insight into a great rappers life, complete with cohesive production that gelled all the way through, and some of the best rhymes of jays career

the best rhymes of nas career were loooooong ago

Imperial1
11-25-2006, 09:13 AM
I'm pretty damn confident in my opinion, I don't lie to myself.

And there you have it.

Imperial1

Dante
11-25-2006, 10:49 AM
fact is stillmatic had wack beats


Fact according to who? You? the fuck outta here, kid.

I happened to like some of the production on Stillmatic, maybe not as much as BP's but i did like it.

PANDA PISS
11-25-2006, 10:58 AM
there were 3 dope beats on there, the premo and extra p ones

whoa115
11-25-2006, 11:19 AM
the fact is jay-z doesnt even compare to nas as an mc, and stillmatic had wack beats? get the fuck outta here

Longbongcilvaringz
11-25-2006, 11:31 AM
come on, blueprint has about 3 good tracks, stillmatic, although i dont class it as high as others do , is far better.

people really need to expose themselves to more music than just jay-z.

grimey
05-21-2008, 05:40 PM
stillmatic all the way......

6 Chambaz
05-21-2008, 05:45 PM
Stillmatic, any day of the week. Beside The Takeover, no track can touch Stillmatic

TheWolf
05-21-2008, 05:46 PM
Stillmatic.

Dont rate it very highly though.

Nas is just a much better MC in my opinion.

Proabably prefer the beats on Blueprint.

Neither get any play from me.

SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS
05-21-2008, 06:14 PM
blueprint by a mile, its a classic

stillmatic was average like all nas albums except illmatic

The Blueprint is a faux classic

I vote Stillmatic is the better complete album especially after the re-issue

Memory Man
05-21-2008, 07:07 PM
voted nas

what goes around comes around > the entire blueprint album (imo)

Ghost_Deini_
05-21-2008, 07:14 PM
stillmatic is better. the blueprint had ill beats thats about it.

VZA
05-21-2008, 07:39 PM
blueprint.

Nas is a cock.

Durag
05-22-2008, 08:01 AM
stillmatic. One of my favourite Nas albums. dope all the way through

SCMC8
05-22-2008, 10:10 AM
thank you

were having a healthy debate here, but some cats just wanna bring it down to "thats your opinion"

fact is stillmatic had wack beats, he lost on ether, got ur self a... was fuckin lame etc
blueprint was an introspective insight into a great rappers life, complete with cohesive production that gelled all the way through, and some of the best rhymes of jays career

the best rhymes of nas career were loooooong ago

The Blueprint is a great album but come on best rhymes in Jay's career? I think it has some of his worst for example "I bounce up like roundball."

SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS
05-22-2008, 10:23 AM
The Blueprint is a great album but come on best rhymes in Jay's career? I think it has some of his worst for example "I bounce up like roundball."

jay-z lyrically isn't that deep and the only reason why people claim it to be a classic is because the source said so and because they owed the jiggaman a five star rating for not giving reasonable doubt what it deserve that's why the blueprint was faux classic. stop fronting like it was it's not that timeless has some skippable tracks plus he got burned by a recycled eminem verse

SaqurakiHanamichi
05-22-2008, 10:53 AM
why did u bump a 2 year old thread

claaa7
05-22-2008, 04:30 PM
jay-z lyrically isn't that deep and the only reason why people claim it to be a classic is because the source said so and because they owed the jiggaman a five star rating for not giving reasonable doubt what it deserve that's why the blueprint was faux classic. stop fronting like it was it's not that timeless has some skippable tracks plus he got burned by a recycled eminem verse

yeah but they did the same thing with Stillmatic, come on that's not a classic album like "Illmatic" although it's a banger. there's a few tracks that's far from as good as the others... Blueprint is a nice fucking album, it also brought back the soul-influenced hip-hop to the forefront.. both albums are great but i think i'll go with Blueprint here.

King Tron 1
05-22-2008, 04:32 PM
Stillmatic.

Dont rate it very highly though.

Nas is just a much better MC in my opinion.

Proabably prefer the beats on Blueprint.

Neither get any play from me.

Me too. I don't see me getting any new Nas or Jay-Z in the future.

CommSense
05-22-2008, 05:15 PM
Stillmatic - 4.5/5

The Blueprint - 2/5

Reiko
05-22-2008, 06:36 PM
won't be original Stillmatic

SaqurakiHanamichi
05-22-2008, 07:16 PM
Stillmatic - 4.5/5

The Blueprint - 2/5

get the fuk out man , pathetic

claaa7
05-23-2008, 02:47 PM
^^ word, that's just hatin'. no matter what you think of "Blueprint" you can't deny it as being good for it's artistic and musical value, and jay-z definitely CAN flow..

The Takeover >> Ether

Ghost In The 'Lac
05-23-2008, 02:56 PM
Blueprint by a mile. Stillmatic most overrated shit ever.

Suga Duga
05-23-2008, 03:07 PM
The Takeover >> Ether


no fuckin way

JerseyIronman
05-23-2008, 05:46 PM
theyre both overrated

Sgt Holly Wood
05-23-2008, 09:43 PM
stillmatic

ALCATRAZ
05-23-2008, 09:55 PM
Stillmatic

Dissonance
05-24-2008, 01:57 AM
The Blueprint is one of those albums that I shake my head at when people call it a "classic" or even great. To me it's just an average album at best. It's maybe one of the best sold albums ever as somehow a lot of people are convinced it's great.

Stillmatic is also an overrated album. Some really good stuff mixed with some average stuff. I'd go with Stillmatic but neither of them were impressive at all after the initial hype of their bitchfest

WuGambino
05-24-2008, 06:13 PM
Nas' lyrics on Stillmatic are the shit. he's like Slick Rick on that album (in a real good way)
shame about most of the production... I wasn't even feeling the Premo beat that much

Rame
05-24-2008, 06:24 PM
Blueprint.

Sgt Holly Wood
05-24-2008, 06:25 PM
Nas' lyrics on Stillmatic are the shit. he's like Slick Rick on that album (in a real good way)
shame about most of the production... I wasn't even feeling the Premo beat that much


wow are u serious ^^

that is like one of my fave beats of all fucking time.. shit is amazing imo

KJR
05-24-2013, 11:45 AM
^True that! I really like both albums but if I had to choose, I'd take Blueprint. It just feels more cohesive and flows better as an album.

WooHa
05-24-2013, 01:26 PM
just lost hope for this forum

Blueprint by far

KJR
05-26-2013, 07:07 PM
Yeah, I'm surprised how far Stillmatic is winning. I think there is probably a little bit of an "anti-Jay" bias though.

PANDA PISS
05-26-2013, 07:35 PM
Blueprint is classic. The production is incredible and it was jay in the best form of his career other than RD. He was literally running this rap shit.

I count 7 songs on Stillmatic that I liked. Its an unimpressive album and the only reason theres even a comparison between the two albums is the 'beef'. Of course Nas fans feel the need to talk up Stillmatic. But 'smokin', 'every ghetto', 'rule' etc? its got a bunch of wackness on it and you know it.

PANDA PISS
05-26-2013, 07:43 PM
blueprint.

Nas is a cock.

rofl

and rofl at my posts in this thread why did i/do i care?. some things never change.

have i really been posting for 7 years? jesus.

Longbongcilvaringz
05-27-2013, 05:03 AM
come on, blueprint has about 3 good tracks, stillmatic, although i dont class it as high as others do , is far better.


Co sign this cunt. You're a fucking marshmellow if you think Blueprint is a classic. A better comparison is Blueprint and Drake's album Take Care, smh.

TheFunkyDrummer
05-27-2013, 07:02 AM
^
I agree. Blueprint is one of the most overrated albums in the history of music. Stillmatic is not a classic but has great tracks like Rewind and 2nd Childhood, but it also had tracks I didn't enjoy like Got Yourself A Gun.

KJR
05-27-2013, 07:59 AM
Oh please, "Take Care" isn't even close to the same spectrum as "Blueprint". The production on BP combined with Jay's more reflective and laid-back style made for one of the first real classics of the 21st century. Although the high points of RD are better than the high points of BP, there also aren't as many low points on BP as RD. That's why I might argue BP is better than RD.

In terms of Stillmatic, it was a nice comeback for Nas, but as a rapper, he didn't really progress on any level. The production didn't feel NEARLY as good as BP nor was its chemistry with Nas as good as Jay's chemistry with his beats. God's Son is better than Stillmatic imo

PANDA PISS
05-27-2013, 11:14 AM
Stillmatic is better if you like rappers sounding bitter and dated with wack production.

http://www.metacritic.com/music/stillmatic/nas

http://www.metacritic.com/music/the-blueprint/jay-z

Generally blueprint is thought of as better.

Take Care and Blueprint is not a good comparison. 2 different generations, different subject matter, vastly different musical styles to the point its not really the same genre.

Blueprint had modern production that still sounds fresh. most of blueprint doesnt even have proper choruses, mainstream hits that felt like part of the album unlike the novelty hit attempts on stillmatic, no bullshit guest features, nothing that was straight up and down WACK like songs on Stillmatic.

Blueprint sounds like an album, stillmatic sounds like most nas albums, a mixed bag of wack and decent beats thrown together. Braveheart party belongs on the same album as 2nd childhood? Its a mess of an album. And who told nas he can write hooks? He cant!

KJR
05-27-2013, 01:07 PM
Stillmatic is better if you like rappers sounding bitter and dated with wack production.

http://www.metacritic.com/music/stillmatic/nas

http://www.metacritic.com/music/the-blueprint/jay-z

Generally blueprint is thought of as better.

Take Care and Blueprint is not a good comparison. 2 different generations, different subject matter, vastly different musical styles to the point its not really the same genre.

Blueprint had modern production that still sounds fresh. most of blueprint doesnt even have proper choruses, mainstream hits that felt like part of the album unlike the novelty hit attempts on stillmatic, no bullshit guest features, nothing that was straight up and down WACK like songs on Stillmatic.

Blueprint sounds like an album, stillmatic sounds like most nas albums, a mixed bag of wack and decent beats thrown together. Braveheart party belongs on the same album as 2nd childhood? Its a mess of an album. And who told nas he can write hooks? He cant!

Yeah Nas doesn't have much of a sense for hooks. He knows how to write a verse though. I would've loved to see Jay and Nas make a collaborative album around this time, it would've been great. (of course, the beef would have had to not existed for that to occur) They'd have been the best duo since Meth and Red!

TheFunkyDrummer
05-27-2013, 05:26 PM
Never heard of Cannibal Ox, KRJ?

Most of you don't make beats, so it's easy for you to say how Blueprint is better produced than Stillmatic. I agree that Stillmatic was definitely not consistent when it comes to production. It had weak production, average production and some good production. Blueprint mostly had wack beats and 2 beats that were ok. Ofcourse since Just Blaze and Kanye made beats on there and Blueprint became a religion in hiphop people will talk about that.

What's so special about Blueprint beats, seriously? Full of repetitive soulloops and million times used drumbreaks. Stillmatic at least had 2nd Childhood, way more complex produced than any Blueprint track. The average Audio Booth producer on Wu-Tang Corp can make better beats. Y'all just suck on names.

SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS
05-27-2013, 05:47 PM
stillmatic all day the blueprint "got murked by eminem on your own album"

laolu
05-27-2013, 06:14 PM
Co sign this cunt. You're a fucking marshmellow if you think Blueprint is a classic. A better comparison is Blueprint and Drake's album Take Care, smh.

E_8dv-lM4ho

KJR
05-28-2013, 06:18 AM
E_8dv-lM4ho

I was waiting for it haha

@FunkyDrummer: Good call on Ox, forget about them lol. Alright, they would've been the best duo since Can Ox.

Longbongcilvaringz
05-28-2013, 07:19 AM
Stillmatic is better if you like rappers sounding bitter and dated with wack production.

http://www.metacritic.com/music/stillmatic/nas

http://www.metacritic.com/music/the-blueprint/jay-z

Generally blueprint is thought of as better.

Take Care and Blueprint is not a good comparison. 2 different generations, different subject matter, vastly different musical styles to the point its not really the same genre.

Blueprint had modern production that still sounds fresh. most of blueprint doesnt even have proper choruses, mainstream hits that felt like part of the album unlike the novelty hit attempts on stillmatic, no bullshit guest features, nothing that was straight up and down WACK like songs on Stillmatic.

Blueprint sounds like an album, stillmatic sounds like most nas albums, a mixed bag of wack and decent beats thrown together. Braveheart party belongs on the same album as 2nd childhood? Its a mess of an album. And who told nas he can write hooks? He cant!




haha, ok, 'fresh modern production'! oh boy!.

I think the reason i dislike Blueprint so much is because of bros like the guy above who are always hyping it. Which has made me recheck it numerous times since i first listened. Every time it's as mediocre as before.

The worst thing about Blueprint is how fucking corny it is. The album catches Jay after he stopped being a 'street rapper' but before he became funny. Some of the lyrics and beats are cringeworthy. Fucking 'Jigga That Nigga', Izzo, U Don't Know, Girls Girls Girls?.... i bet you guy can really "vibe" to those jams right?

It's a calculated commercial release that garnered critical acclaim because music critics love "cohesive albums" and "themes" and dumb shit like that. Blueprint is bad and critically acclaimed for the same reasons as Kanye's last album (which i bet Sosa loved).

I've listened to Stillmatic all the way through countless times, the average beats are tolerable because Nas at that stage was always a compelling mc. I've listened to Blueprint maybe 10 times all the way through, mostly because of idiots on here raving about it, and that was 9 times too many.

I expect everyone here disagrees, but Just Blaze is one of the most overrated producers ever. He's makes boring, soul sampled 7/10 beats over and over again.

MaskedAvenger
05-28-2013, 11:19 AM
well said, 2/3 of the album is mad corny. both are overrated though

KJR
05-28-2013, 04:20 PM
The worst thing about Blueprint is how fucking corny it is. The album catches Jay after he stopped being a 'street rapper' but before he became funny. Some of the lyrics and beats are cringeworthy. Fucking 'Jigga That Nigga', Izzo, U Don't Know, Girls Girls Girls?.... i bet you guy can really "vibe" to those jams right?



So wait, are you saying that Jay was a street rapper between Vol 1 and Dynasty?

TheFunkyDrummer
05-29-2013, 05:57 PM
I expect everyone here disagrees, but Just Blaze is one of the most overrated producers ever. He's makes boring, soul sampled 3/10 beats over and over again.

I agree for the most part. Fixed.

The Hound
05-29-2013, 11:10 PM
Both are mad overrated so who gives a fuck arguing over yesterdays chips n shit

Longbongcilvaringz
05-30-2013, 04:52 AM
Hi Energ Turtle!

KJR
05-30-2013, 06:14 AM
Both are mad overrated so who gives a fuck arguing over yesterdays chips n shit

Hey, at least it's better than arguing "Reasonable Doubt vs Illmatic" right?