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frosted592
07-15-2005, 05:06 PM
What's in your opinion the worst event that happen in hiphop since it's beggining?


In my opinion it's either "the killing of 2pac and biggie" or "50cent".

pussy-with-teeth
07-15-2005, 05:07 PM
wu tang

frosted592
07-15-2005, 05:13 PM
hu?

Rooty P
07-15-2005, 05:17 PM
Crunk Music or G-Unit

hellbound
07-15-2005, 05:56 PM
Death of Big L and ODB. R.I.P.

R3beLuTionAry
07-15-2005, 05:59 PM
the general collapse of mainstream hip hop

Thomas Creed
07-15-2005, 06:14 PM
the death of EAZY E

the prisoment of BG KNOCC OUT + FLESH N BONE

the murder of 2pac and biggie smalls

tical2000
07-15-2005, 07:34 PM
Crunk Music or G-Unit
haha I think it so funny how people think G-UNIT is the worst thing in hip hop........like are they really worse than fuckin CHINGY, NELLY, CASSIDY, JA RULE, FAT JOE, LIL JOHN, etc.............they aint that bad, in fact if G-UNIT was not dominating mainstream hip hop right now....we would be left to the likes of CHINGY and NELLY....

I think the better albums of this year are THE GAME-DOCUMANETARY......production is fire, with some mediocre lyrics......but better than the borring underground shit to come out this year

tical2000
07-15-2005, 07:36 PM
the worst thing to happen to hip hop is the CORPORATIONS ACCEPTING HIP HOP as a way to sell hamburgers and cell phones...........rap used to be rebel music..........now shit is corporate.

Rap is a fuckin McDonalds marketing campaign in 2005!

younguru
07-15-2005, 07:53 PM
the death of EAZY E

the prisoment of BG KNOCC OUT + FLESH N BONE

the murder of 2pac and biggie smalls Flesh-n-bone what's wrong with him????

sakk
07-15-2005, 07:56 PM
the worst thing to happen to hip hop is the CORPORATIONS ACCEPTING HIP HOP as a way to sell hamburgers and cell phones...........rap used to be rebel music..........now shit is corporate.

Rap is a fuckin McDonalds marketing campaign in 2005!
Ditto.

Also, the death of Jam Master J. That was tragic.

R3beLuTionAry
07-15-2005, 08:25 PM
haha I think it so funny how people think G-UNIT is the worst thing in hip hop........like are they really worse than fuckin CHINGY, NELLY, CASSIDY, JA RULE, FAT JOE, LIL JOHN, etc.............they aint that bad, in fact if G-UNIT was not dominating mainstream hip hop right now....we would be left to the likes of CHINGY and NELLY....

I think the better albums of this year are THE GAME-DOCUMANETARY......production is fire, with some mediocre lyrics......but better than the borring underground shit to come out this year


yeah theyre better than chingy but the thing is.. they think theyre the best ever and thats a bitchtality right there. that shit pissed people off.. when wack people think theyre the shit.

Bedlam
07-15-2005, 08:29 PM
Even though i don't think they were the greatest rappers ever, its the murders of Tupac and Biggie. They were the most popular in rap, but they were still quality rappers, so mainstream rap was good.

After them, hip hop started declining, southern rap started getting popular (No Limit bullshit), and basically it led to where we are today. Which is shit :thumbdwn:

tical2000
07-15-2005, 08:32 PM
yeah theyre better than chingy but the thing is.. they think theyre the best ever and thats a bitchtality right there. that shit pissed people off.. when wack people think theyre the shit.
What rapper doesn't think they are the best ever???? Rappers are all about ego dude.....every rapper in the world acts like he si the best on the mic

sakk
07-15-2005, 08:34 PM
Even though i don't think they were the greatest rappers ever, its the murders of Tupac and Biggie. They were the most popular in rap, but they were still quality rappers, so mainstream rap was good.

After them, hip hop started declining, southern rap started getting popular (No Limit bullshit), and basically it led to where we are today. Which is shit :thumbdwn:
Aint nothin wrong with some No Limit and Cash Money.

Bedlam
07-15-2005, 08:39 PM
^^^ yea there is, I dont consider "Make em say Ughhhhhhhhh" good music (No Limit), and rappin bout ur car 230484305 times (Cash Money).

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-15-2005, 08:39 PM
What rapper doesn't think they are the best ever???? Rappers are all about ego dude.....every rapper in the world acts like he si the best on the mic

it's pretty obvious this cat loves G-Unit alot.....lol They are pretty bad, they only have beats to drive them, it's kinda sad.....on the other had I can name such groups as Boot Camp Clik, Wu Tang, Onyx, Justus League, fuck Monsta Island Czars, ALOT OF FUCKIN GROUPS that are better than them, they aren't great. But it's ok you can have your opinion........just realize G Unit isn't the best at all

tical2000
07-15-2005, 08:53 PM
it's pretty obvious this cat loves G-Unit alot.....lol They are pretty bad, they only have beats to drive them, it's kinda sad.....on the other had I can name such groups as Boot Camp Clik, Wu Tang, Onyx, Justus League, fuck Monsta Island Czars, ALOT OF FUCKIN GROUPS that are better than them, they aren't great. But it's ok you can have your opinion........just realize G Unit isn't the best at all
Okay dude, all I said that I thought YOUNG BUCKS - CASHVILLE album was good.....to be honest I think the only good albums G UNIT has put out are the GAME, YOUNG BUCK, and 50 - GET RICH.........the rest is very medicore......and the LLOYD BANKS shit is fuckin overhyped trash.......all I am saying is that of the mainstream shit, the G UNIT aint the worst.....and not as bad as these little MF DOOM internet kids make it out to be

...YOU KEEP SAYING THAT I SAY G-UNIT IS THE BEST......I NEVER SAID THAT, YOU TWAT!!!

Some of my faorite groups of all time are WU, MOBB, OUTKAST, HIERO, QUANNUM, GANGSTARR, TRIBE, PHAROACH, MOS DEF, BOOT CAMP, NAS, BIGGIE, JAY-Z, etc

The point I am making is that I can like a song that gets play on MTV as much as any undergound joint......some of you little internet dudes cry like your tampon needs changing when somebody says they like a cat that gets play on MTV.

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-15-2005, 08:54 PM
why are you still talking about G Unit?

staycreepin_n_silence
07-15-2005, 09:11 PM
Nothing is wrong with hiphop. It's actually moving upward not down. i'll say when rappers kill or end up in jail.

R3beLuTionAry
07-15-2005, 09:14 PM
Nothing is wrong with hiphop. It's actually moving upward not down. i'll say when rappers kill or end up in jail.

thats why the name of the thread is worst THING to happen to hip hop, not "why hip hop is going down"

Orion Nebulus
07-15-2005, 09:24 PM
The worst thing to happen was the creation of commercial rap....and we can all thank p diddy for that one. Since that time hiphop fell wayyyy down!! I dont care about record sales...I care about authentic shit!!! Underground will live forever!!!!!

U-Samurai
07-15-2005, 09:40 PM
the worst thing to happen to hip hop so far has been the murders of pac and biggie. Latley ive seen mcdonalds commercials with foos rapping about how late they stay open and shit. i know wu did a st. ides commercial, ok, but mcdonalds is not hip hop....

TiCaL24
07-15-2005, 09:50 PM
2 LIVE CREW

Olai
07-16-2005, 12:49 AM
The worst thing that happened to hip hop are these cats wit absolute no talent who can't rhyme for shit and get recruited by these corporations for their marketing schemes, and because of their apparent "look or appeal." Then they stick them wit the same repetitive beats from either Dre, Timberland, or Neptunes and now they are considered rap superstars. Its bad enough these corporations keep doing it, but whats worse are these ignorant blind losers that fall for it everytime and keep following the apparent "hype."


The Media Is Lying To You...

frosted592
07-16-2005, 01:57 AM
The Media Is Lying To You...
public ennemy told ya'll "don't believe the hype" *D

Create
07-16-2005, 02:09 AM
Mixtapes


Lemme Explain




Dipset
Cassidy
Papoose
50


^^ All Them Mixtape Artists Who Think Are Good


When In Reality All Suck Major Ballz


Thats Why I Hate Mixtape And Worse Of All Is A Mixtape Dj

Who Isnt A Dj At All

Cuz They Dont Scratch Make Beats All They Do Is Get Awards At The Justos Mixtape Award ( Rip) For Screaming Out Exlusive And Over Flooding The Dam Track

Now Niggas Like J Love They Ill Cuz They Scratch And Make Ill Beats



Fuck It Ama Go All Out

Why Do We Even Call Them Mixtape


I Hate That Its A Mic Cd U Fucking Worthless Peices Of Shits Dj's

U-Samurai
07-16-2005, 02:19 AM
AMEN Create

Create
07-16-2005, 02:39 AM
Lol Just Speaking The Truth


Good Looking Out Tho I Can Tell U Feel Me


Respect

Funk_Dock
07-16-2005, 03:24 AM
the deaths of any rappers IMO is the worst thing that could happen

staycreepin_n_silence
07-16-2005, 04:33 AM
thats why the name of the thread is worst THING to happen to hip hop, not "why hip hop is going down"
Boy dont correct me. (I'm through with you)



The worst thing to happen in hiphop was when money became the new found love, when it became universal and when it became commerical. but not commerical as yall know it with the nelly and chingy more like, with the chinese hiphop and the french hiphop. These cats now sag thier pants and turn their hats side ways. talk with their hands and mimic a culture. that's the worst thing(s) to happen. When other culture look at blacks on TV and think they are apart of the culure I see you. Talking shit liek yo yo and greeting like blacks do. Talking like blacks adopting our terminology, commercializing our lives. and I cant wait for you when you say my n1ggahs so I can watch my boy chop yo ass in the throat. I dont mind you listening to the music, being apart of the culture but respect the culture that it Originate from (that goes to the blacks also). i love rock, but do you see me in goth or sporting a mo hawk? No and you wont

Rebel_INS
07-16-2005, 04:54 AM
the general collapse of mainstream hip hop
2nd that FOR SURE

frosted592
07-16-2005, 03:18 PM
Is A Mixtape Dj
Who Isnt A Dj At All
wise wordz

Ronin
07-16-2005, 05:58 PM
the worst thing was wu falling off

wheres the 8th fucking diagram?

Antibody
07-16-2005, 06:14 PM
public ennemy told ya'll "don't believe the hype" *D
I was gonna say that.

The worst thing in hip-hop was P.Diddy & industries milking hip-hop.

Surgeon General
07-16-2005, 06:24 PM
i think the south is the worst thing to happen, that fuckin crunk shit, thats just plain gay

triggahappy187
07-16-2005, 11:53 PM
Look u cant hate on Chingy an say he ruined hip hop Puff daddy an Mase ruined hip hop the were the first to really blow up in like 96 an change the way rap music was. ill be missin u was a good tribute to BIG but Puffy took rap an made it eazy for anyone to listen to it. thats when MCDS caught on to rap an started incorporatin the sound into their commericals.

GhostfaceKillah199
07-17-2005, 12:06 AM
Greed

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-17-2005, 12:17 AM
^that sums it up the best

tical2000
07-17-2005, 12:20 AM
Greed
yep, .........it used to be that is you rapped you could make money, now people start rapping to make money........

Rap is a CORPORATE add campaign in 2005........a McDonalds add......or a cell phone jingle

RynMur
07-17-2005, 01:45 AM
Hip Hop goes through stages just like everything else does. So quit hatin on groups and rappers for making some money.

tical2000
07-17-2005, 02:09 AM
Hip Hop goes through stages just like everything else does. So quit hatin on groups and rappers for making some money.
I aint hatin on rappers for makin money........I am hatin on the fact that corporations now use rap to sell fuckin hambugers and cell phones to the masses.......it waters down the music.........hence we have the bubblegum shit we have now

thwak
07-17-2005, 02:44 AM
u-god singing

no seriously it's chingy or as I like to call him the guy who got his dick sucked by a dude at the porn awards.

thwak
07-17-2005, 02:50 AM
2 LIVE CREW
uhh wrong actually, 2 live crew moved hip hop forward instead of being the worst thing. with out the help of 2 live crew ALOT of rappers wouldn't have been able to get away with their lyrics. take ghostface killah for instance, do you really think he would've gotten away with his verse on strawberry or the projects if it wasn't for 2 live crew?

Godess
07-17-2005, 02:58 AM
It got out of controll.

MILF DOOM
07-17-2005, 04:47 AM
east coast west coast beef

Analyze
07-17-2005, 11:46 AM
I read all your posts, and I'm in no means a fan of Puffy, but commerical rap was out way before Diddy. Commercial always outsold underground shit just take a look at Will Smith in the '80s he outsold Rakim, EPMD, and Public Enemy. The white rappers got all the attention from MTV and the masses, Beaste Boys so you cant so Puff. If anything he gave the illest nigga to ever do it, Big, and he sign the Lox. To me the worst thing in Hip hop was the East v. West bullshit and the only reason I say that is because we lost Biggie from it. Big L, was coming up, Pun was opening doors to new niggas, but their dealth didnt change the musical landscape like Big's passing. Also, the commeralization of my culture, and the rise of the wack Southern & midwest aided in the collapes of Rap. HipHop is a culture, a lifestyle, rap is the sound of the culture.

Wu Forever

Raptics
07-17-2005, 12:05 PM
The 2pac and biggie shit. I can see how the younger people here think otherwise cause it wasn't their era.

LikwidSwordz
07-17-2005, 12:21 PM
Even though i don't think they were the greatest rappers ever, its the murders of Tupac and Biggie. They were the most popular in rap, but they were still quality rappers, so mainstream rap was good.

After them, hip hop started declining, southern rap started getting popular (No Limit bullshit), and basically it led to where we are today. Which is shit :thumbdwn:
Yup........it sucks. Big L's death was very tragic as well i think. Another reason why Wu must step up......hip-hop needs Wu-Tang.

THE W
07-17-2005, 12:27 PM
I was gonna say that.

The worst thing in hip-hop was P.Diddy & industries milking hip-hop.BULLSEYE!!

that cocksucker is the reason we now have sample clearances. song jacking every fuckin thing in 97.

Orion Nebulus
07-17-2005, 01:29 PM
BULLSEYE!!

that cocksucker is the reason we now have sample clearances. song jacking every fuckin thing in 97.

Word!!!! Thats what I'm saying. Hiphop died slowly since then.

Wu-tang Fan
07-17-2005, 01:58 PM
Boy dont correct me. (I'm through with you)



The worst thing to happen in hiphop was when money became the new found love, when it became universal and when it became commerical. but not commerical as yall know it with the nelly and chingy more like, with the chinese hiphop and the french hiphop. These cats now sag thier pants and turn their hats side ways. talk with their hands and mimic a culture. that's the worst thing(s) to happen. When other culture look at blacks on TV and think they are apart of the culure I see you. Talking shit liek yo yo and greeting like blacks do. Talking like blacks adopting our terminology, commercializing our lives. and I cant wait for you when you say my n1ggahs so I can watch my boy chop yo ass in the throat. I dont mind you listening to the music, being apart of the culture but respect the culture that it Originate from (that goes to the blacks also). i love rock, but do you see me in goth or sporting a mo hawk? No and you wont
I want to say that people white people do respect it and like the kinda unfriendly way you say that causes friction(I won't say beef if you don't like that)between white people and black people(but not in the majority).And the white people might talk like you do,but that don't mean that they are commercialising what some black people stand for.I respect what you are saying about the Hip-Hop culture going commercial but I don't like the attitude to other race/cultures.

tical2000
07-17-2005, 03:06 PM
I read all your posts, and I'm in no means a fan of Puffy, but commerical rap was out way before Diddy. Commercial always outsold underground shit just take a look at Will Smith in the '80s he outsold Rakim, EPMD, and Public Enemy. The white rappers got all the attention from MTV and the masses, Beaste Boys so you cant so Puff. If anything he gave the illest nigga to ever do it, Big, and he sign the Lox. To me the worst thing in Hip hop was the East v. West bullshit and the only reason I say that is because we lost Biggie from it. Big L, was coming up, Pun was opening doors to new niggas, but their dealth didnt change the musical landscape like Big's passing. Also, the commeralization of my culture, and the rise of the wack Southern & midwest aided in the collapes of Rap. HipHop is a culture, a lifestyle, rap is the sound of the culture.

Wu Forever
Sure, commercial rap did exist before PUFFY...........but PUFFY made it acceptable or "cool" to sell out.......he introduced the million dollar videos, the dancing girls, and popularised the Materialistic asspect of hip hop.........he took hip hop from being the voice of the ghetto and made it about a rich million dollar lifestyle......today when you watch rap videos....they are all off shoots of what PUFFY did, rich cristal sipping, bling bling shit............in the ghetto it aint really like that.......puffy turned hip hop into this fantasy

jaywoods27
07-17-2005, 03:23 PM
There are alot of things 1 the hip hop today is watered down. The beats are wacked. 2. biggie tupac olb big pun big l alot of good stars dying

sakk
07-17-2005, 03:30 PM
Shhheeeeeeit. Puffy didnt make shit accceptable.
Corporations did. Marketing campaigns with Mos Def selling jeeps, McDonalds havin rap jingles, Jay Z Hieniken commercials, Method and Red deodorant commercials, we could keep listing these corporate advertisements for a long time.
Somebody else already made this point on this thread.

Originally Posted by tical2000
the worst thing to happen to hip hop is the CORPORATIONS ACCEPTING HIP HOP as a way to sell hamburgers and cell phones...........rap used to be rebel music..........now shit is corporate.

Rap is a fuckin McDonalds marketing campaign in 2005!

Puffy aint that bad. Cant knock the hustle. If you can make money make it, its the individuals choice whether they wanna be good and moral.

Another point is, people are represented by the majority (George Bush is the president of the U.S.A.) most people arent good, most people arent smart. So you get the majority of people are bad and dumb. So the music that sells the majority of records is bad and dumb music. And in the end some bad/smart people decided to make money off of dumbasses, hence we have rap jingles/hip hopification of America.

But if you are good and smart you know what to listen to and what to reject.

Wu-Tality
07-17-2005, 05:38 PM
hiphop blowing up to fucked up proportions killed it, you know... commercial shit, that mcdonalds type shit.

Polocash7
07-17-2005, 06:32 PM
the worst thing to happen to hip hop is the CORPORATIONS ACCEPTING HIP HOP as a way to sell hamburgers and cell phones...........rap used to be rebel music..........now shit is corporate.

Rap is a fuckin McDonalds marketing campaign in 2005!Well said. Also it's aimed at "fans" that know nothing ' bout the history

tonystarkz
07-17-2005, 08:45 PM
Worst thing to happen in hip hop (most recently)---



Mike Jones.....who?....Mike Jones.....Who?.....Mike Jones



Sorry if im hatin, but that ugly ass nigga cant rhyme for shit. beats are hot but i rhyme alot nicer.......so does my grandma

THE W
07-17-2005, 09:57 PM
Puffy aint that bad. Cant knock the hustle. If you can make money make it, its the individuals choice whether they wanna be good and moral.

well then lets just forget about it all cuz all these commercial rappers are doing is hustling.

but i will say that even worse then puffy is the real hiphop groups that got scared of puffy and sold out trying to keep up with him.

Analyze
07-17-2005, 10:14 PM
When it stop being a artfrom and became a gimmickWu Forever

AcidPhosphate69
07-17-2005, 10:32 PM
When gangsta started meaning you where a "real" rapper.

JOHNNY_TICAL
07-17-2005, 10:38 PM
Death Of 2 Pac ... Biggie.... East Coast .. West Coast Beef.... // No Reason 4 It // Also Deaths From Da Pioneers Who Started It

tical2000
07-17-2005, 10:43 PM
well then lets just forget about it all cuz all these commercial rappers are doing is hustling.

but i will say that even worse then puffy is the real hiphop groups that got scared of puffy and sold out trying to keep up with him.
yep.....agreed

Butter
07-17-2005, 10:58 PM
when everyone called 50 cent a fake!

poop one
07-17-2005, 11:27 PM
the worst thing to happen to hip hop is the CORPORATIONS ACCEPTING HIP HOP as a way to sell hamburgers and cell phones...........rap used to be rebel music..........now shit is corporate.
true that.

Chef_Raekwon
07-18-2005, 01:36 AM
the worst group to ever some oppon in hiphop is g-unit fuck them and they lifestyle

adriatic
07-18-2005, 12:13 PM
When the corporations got their hooks into it and it became all about the money and all of a sudden good music didn't matter. Just like rock before it only even worse.

And the deaths of Big and Pac were sad but that couldn't kill hip-hop. Hip-hop was always bigger than two rappers and it killed itself or allowed others to kill it, take your pick. And I couldn't even feel that sorry for Big and Pac they brought it on themselves. If you want to feel sorry for someone feel sorry for Big L.

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-18-2005, 12:15 PM
yeah that nigga was about to blow big time, word up, it's such a shame

tical2000
07-18-2005, 01:31 PM
BIG L was going to get signed to ROCAFELLA...........he would have been huge

adriatic
07-18-2005, 03:24 PM
BIG L was going to get signed to ROCAFELLA...........he would have been huge
...and then 90% of his fans on this board would've turned on him. Bank on it.

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-18-2005, 03:53 PM
how many people do you see on this board that even know Big L? It's not even a issue. But for real, I'm tired of people with ya attitude, oh "you only like emcees because they are underground" FUCK THAT, I personally like music because IT'S FUCKIN GOOD MUSIC. Stop with ya stupid rhetoric, i'm dead tired of it

Bone Collecta
07-18-2005, 03:57 PM
...and then 90% of his fans on this board would've turned on him. Bank on it.
co-sign dickriding bitches

Analyze
07-18-2005, 03:59 PM
co-sign dickriding bitches
nah, that was at a time when the ROC was still hot and Big L would've been a nice addition.


Wu Forever

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-18-2005, 04:00 PM
the worst thing to happen to Hip Hop was people who think they know what real Hip Hop is and slam other people who they think are inferior than them because they have a alternate view of what real Hip Hop is.......they also don't want to argue this point with other people because they think they are all knowing......when in reality you are not convincing anybody of anything and people are tired of your stereotypical views.

adriatic
07-18-2005, 04:02 PM
the worst thing to happen to Hip Hop was people who think they know what real Hip Hop is and slam other people who they think are inferior than them because they have a alternate view of what real Hip Hop is.......they also don't want to argue this point with other people because they think they are all knowing......when in reality you are not convincing anybody of anything and people are tired of your stereotypical views.
the irony of this post is mind boggling

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-18-2005, 04:02 PM
i was talking explicitly about you. Because you can't face the fact that more people like Nas then Jay-Z

WHITE_MANTIS_AI
07-18-2005, 05:37 PM
the end of the 90s

GhostfaceKillah199
07-18-2005, 06:43 PM
I think the most recent problem in hip hop(besides the obvious unoriginality and greed) is that it's almost all negative artists on top(except kanye and common, which the former ain't as good on the mic as they hype him up to be). I'm not some kind of soft ass p*ssy or whatever, I love cats like Mobb Deep, CNN, Kurupt, Rae, etc. rappin that gangsta shit but there's no more balance like there was a decade ago when the Native Tongues and other groups like Pharcyde and the Hieroglyphics crew were at their peaks. Yall might think otherwise but it's kinda sad that today the hip hop youth of america would rather guzzle a 40 and smack a "bitch" than address the problems of the world and keep their heads up livin' righteous. peace

tical2000
07-18-2005, 10:35 PM
i was talking explicitly about you. Because you can't face the fact that more people like Nas then Jay-Z
Still on that NAS is the most popular shit huh..........who cares who is more popular

Hidden Chamber
07-18-2005, 11:00 PM
Dis wack commercial shit dat's ova-powerin' dat real shit like what was goin' on back in da early n mid 90's n also:

The Industry held by white people, they have poisend da minds of new up n comin' artist

tical2000
07-18-2005, 11:04 PM
the worst thing to happen to Hip Hop was people who think they know what real Hip Hop is and slam other people who they think are inferior than them because they have a alternate view of what real Hip Hop is.......they also don't want to argue this point with other people because they think they are all knowing......when in reality you are not convincing anybody of anything and people are tired of your stereotypical views.
I think this dude suffers from schizophrenia.......

Butter
07-18-2005, 11:12 PM
i think you'l find Big-L started his own label before he got shot.

frosted592
07-18-2005, 11:47 PM
The Industry held by white people, they have poisend da minds of new up n comin' artistisn't the industry mostly held by Dr Dre (shady/aftermath/g-unit)?

I always tought he was black, I may be wrong, maybe he was rapping in CWA( cracka-with-attitude)

manhattan360
07-19-2005, 12:13 AM
i was gonna wright something but ya all wrote it how come some just go from being demslves doing there own kind style of chain to rocking a jesus piece its like they want most of all americans to accept them cause thats were the power is