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Black Man
12-27-2006, 06:06 PM
This video is dealing with the jews and their involvement in the trans atlantic slave trade. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3435039175602962781&q=BLACK+HISTORY&hl=en

Black Panther http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4669827501566616819&q=BLACK+PANTHER+PARTY&hl=en

More to come....

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 06:36 PM
This video is dealing with the jews and their involvement in the trans atlantic slave trade. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3435039175602962781&q=BLACK+HISTORY&hl=en

Black Panther http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4669827501566616819&q=BLACK+PANTHER+PARTY&hl=en

More to come....

http://www.blackpanther.org/newsalert.htm

"The question the Foundation raises, then, is who are these people laying claim to the Party's history and name? Are they reactionary provocateurs, who would instigate activities counterproductive to the people's interests, causing mayhem and death? Are they entertainers, who would posture themselves before the media, and, according to numerous sources, with empty guns, to spin gold for themselves? Are they, given the history of their late-leader Khalid Muhammad, a group of anti-Semites like the very Ku Klux Klan they allegedly oppose? What is their agenda?"

It is an insult to the memory of Huey P Newton to put these two clips next to each other.

I really don't mind if you say Jews were involved in slavery cuz it's true and I hope they pay up some reparations but never let me catch you posting something like this next to something about the Black Panthers. They were about moving forward not your reactionary bullshit.

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 06:50 PM
How would you explain this:

ETHIOPIAN JEWS

http://www.iaej.co.il/pages/history.htm

(my granduncle is married to a Beta Israeli)

We've already covered on this board that Moses direct descendants would have been black or part black because of Kush intermarriage.

As a student of comparative religion I've read much of what Maimodes wrote (Not all of it- he wrote thousands of essays) and I have seen no such racism. I doubt it's there. And supposing it was, I doubt that alone would inspire European racism- remember the medieval Christians thought Jews drank baby blood and worshipped Satan.

Black Man
12-27-2006, 07:03 PM
http://www.blackpanther.org/newsalert.htm

"The question the Foundation raises, then, is who are these people laying claim to the Party's history and name? Are they reactionary provocateurs, who would instigate activities counterproductive to the people's interests, causing mayhem and death? Are they entertainers, who would posture themselves before the media, and, according to numerous sources, with empty guns, to spin gold for themselves? Are they, given the history of their late-leader Khalid Muhammad, a group of anti-Semites like the very Ku Klux Klan they allegedly oppose? What is their agenda?"

It is an insult to the memory of Huey P Newton to put these two clips next to each other.

I really don't mind if you say Jews were involved in slavery cuz it's true and I hope they pay up some reparations but never let me catch you posting something like this next to something about the Black Panthers. They were about moving forward not your reactionary bullshit.

The agenda of the New Black Panther Party from what I heard Khalid Muhammad (when he was in the physical) say is Self Defense.

You are wrong calling Khalid anti-semitic. Do you even know what anti-semitic is?

Reparations has very little or nothing to do with money. Reparations is about reparing the damage the one group of people have done to another group of people. Can't repare that with money.

Not only were jews part of the slave trade, so were the muslims!

I'll post whatever I want next to whatever I want.

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 07:06 PM
KHALID MUHAMMAD SPEECH EXCERPTS

"I say you call yourself Goldstein, Silverstein and Rubinstein because you [sic] stealing all the gold and silver and rubies all over the earth. . . we call it jewelry but it's really Jew-elry, Jew-elry because of your deiving [sic] and stealing and rogueing [sic] and lying all over the face of the planet earth."

"It's that old no-good Jew, that old imposter Jew, that old hooked-nose, bagel-eating, lox-eating, Johnny-come-lately perpetrating a fraud, just crawled out of the caves and hills of Europe, so-called damn Jew. . . and I feel everything I'm saying up here is kosher."

Is this what you're referring to...

"Well, I can't be an anti-Semite, in the sense that they say, because they're not the Semites. But let's leave that to the side, whatever the hell they say they are, I'm anti- [sic]. If you say you're a Semite -- even though I know goddamn well you're not a Semite, if you just say you're one -- I'm against you. If you say you're white, goddammit I'm against you. If you're a Jew, I'm against you. Whatever the hell you want to call yourself, I'm against you. Whatever the hell you want to call yourself."
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/khalid_own_words/on_jews.asp

Black Man
12-27-2006, 07:10 PM
If you say you're a Semite -- even though I know goddamn well you're not a Semite

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 07:11 PM
First of all the dude who wrote the memo called him anti-semite not me second he still hates them Klans man

Black Man
12-27-2006, 07:13 PM
...late-leader Khalid Muhammad, a group of anti-Semites like the very Ku Klux Klan they allegedly oppose...

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 07:14 PM
Idiot I just told you that was a quote not me. READ

Black Man
12-27-2006, 07:15 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630547162652567930&q=BLACK+HISTORY&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3042492482254888048&q=BLACK+PANTHER+PARTY&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4070876504830012202&q=AFRICAN+HISTORY&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2870540095930029707&q=AFRICAN+HISTORY&hl=en

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 07:17 PM
Cracka I dont have time to load a 20 min video- just say your point.

Black Man
12-27-2006, 07:20 PM
:'o :'( :'o :'(

Black Man
12-27-2006, 07:21 PM
Cracka I dont have time to load a 20 min video- just say your point.

ain't you a muslim?

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 07:25 PM
OK this don't relate to what we were talking about but I've got to state my bottom line-

Most of the Jews who were involved in slavery were either Arabs or Whites. They used religious justification just like Catholics Protestants and Muslims did and despite your video I doubt they were the first to do it based on my own research and what I have read. If you're not willing to make a videos on how muslims catholics and protestants justified slavery and racism, why the Jews?

My speculation is you're white you're self-conscious of your whiteness and you want to divert any awkward feelings you have about slavery and racism onto the Jews so you feel less guilty, just as European Christians did for centuries whenever they felt awkward about something before there were European NGEs.

That's just my opinion.

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 07:28 PM
ain't you a muslim?

I refer to myself as one but I practice a lot of other stuff. I do New Age and Sikh meditation and I also borrow some religious practices from Christianity, Judaism and even Santareia. I call myself a muslim because I "submit to God". I don't know if there is a proper term for what I am. I worship God and honor Him as I see fit while meditating for self-improvement. I do keep the five pillars so it is probably a proper self-label.

Gawd
12-27-2006, 07:29 PM
blackman is white. african americans lost.

Black Man
12-27-2006, 07:32 PM
OK this don't relate to what we were talking about but I've got to state my bottom line-

Most of the Jews who were involved in slavery were either Arabs or Whites. They used religious justification just like Catholics Protestants and Muslims did and despite your video I doubt they were the first to do it based on my own research and what I have read. If you're not willing to make a videos on how muslims catholics and protestants justified slavery and racism, why the Jews?

My speculation is you're white you're self-conscious of your whiteness and you want to divert any awkward feelings you have about slavery and racism onto the Jews so you feel less guilty, just as European Christians did for centuries whenever they felt awkward about something before there were European NGEs.

That's just my opinion.

opinion.....this isn't the opinion section, this is know the ledge, the knowledge section. are you lost?

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 07:33 PM
The end part was an opinion... you know the things you have a lot of...

Black Man
12-27-2006, 07:34 PM
I refer to myself as one but I practice a lot of other stuff. I do New Age and Sikh meditation and I also borrow some religious practices from Christianity, Judaism and even Santareia. I call myself a muslim because I "submit to God". I don't know if there is a proper term for what I am. I worship God and honor Him as I see fit while meditating for self-improvement. I do keep the five pillars so it is probably a proper self-label.

you're making other muslims look bad....cracka

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 07:35 PM
How mature honky devil...

Ultimate Fist
12-27-2006, 09:08 PM
you're making other muslims look bad....cracka


Who makes muslims look worse Ultimate Fist or Osama Bin Laden?

Gawd
12-27-2006, 11:32 PM
muslims make themselves look bad

supremecharma
12-28-2006, 02:12 AM
Word.

Golden_Armz
01-09-2007, 02:03 PM
I refer to myself as one but I practice a lot of other stuff. I do New Age and Sikh meditation and I also borrow some religious practices from Christianity, Judaism and even Santareia. I call myself a muslim because I "submit to God". I don't know if there is a proper term for what I am. I worship God and honor Him as I see fit while meditating for self-improvement. I do keep the five pillars so it is probably a proper self-label.


lol...practice alot of other stuff, thats just kufr, u either muslim or not, practicing "new age"?? u practicing some man made ideologies over the deen of Allah swt? Sikhism is a mix of Hinduism and Islam, so where are you going? if you know your deen properly you'll see it has he uncorrupted versions of eveything you claim to practice.

zeppelin2k
01-09-2007, 09:54 PM
lol...practice alot of other stuff, thats just kufr, u either muslim or not, practicing "new age"?? u practicing some man made ideologies over the deen of Allah swt? Sikhism is a mix of Hinduism and Islam, so where are you going? if you know your deen properly you'll see it has he uncorrupted versions of eveything you claim to practice.

Sikhism isnt a mix of anything, thats a very stupid thing to say
thats like saying islam is a mix of christianity and judiasm

the first prophets of Sikhism were born into non-sikh families, which were muslim and hindu, the religion ain't a mix, it goes against many of the principles of the other two

ie) the Sikhs opposed the moguls, and the Hindu caste systems

read up before you say something you dont know

Golden_Armz
01-10-2007, 04:24 PM
the first prophets of Sikhism were born into non-sikh families, which were muslim and hindu, the religion ain't a mix, it goes against many of the principles of the other two


so they were from mixed hindu and muslim families, in that case they took doctrines from both and made up their own? school me...

thats a very stupid thing to say
thats like saying islam is a mix of christianity and judiasm

Islam teaches the same main points the messengers of Judaism and the Followers of Jesus taught. so in that context you are right and it is not a "stupid" thing to say.