PDA

View Full Version : What is your political affiliation? / Where are you on the political spectrum?


GENERAL WISE
01-05-2007, 12:53 AM
Independent / Liberal moderate

Black Man
01-05-2007, 11:02 AM
only two choices??? not much of a choice...

Gawd
01-05-2007, 11:10 AM
^ that is where he stands dumbass.....gawd you're dim.

TAURO
01-05-2007, 11:51 AM
Taliban/oppressor

Dirty Knowledge
01-05-2007, 03:02 PM
I ain't shit on the political spectrum... I don't vote... I don't give a fuck about what is going on... shit will never change... and they use me not giving a fuck to justify the bullshit they do... fuck politics!

netscape check two
01-05-2007, 03:11 PM
I wouldn't classify myself as a specific description such as Republican, Democrat, etc. Though, I would say I definitely veer more toward the liberal side. If I had a lot of money, wore argon socks everyday, a sweater, got the exact same haircut every few weeks, combed my hair the exact way everyday, got upset cause somebody said Happy Holiday, instead of Merry Christmas, thought that a woman who was raped shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion, base everything in my life on a book from a long time ago that nobody knows if things are true or not in it, then I might be a conservative.

HANZO
01-05-2007, 04:29 PM
nationalist / right wing fascist.

Ultimate Fist
01-05-2007, 06:07 PM
I don't even know anymore. I've considered myself everything at some point but then I always notice the flaws with whatever I'm practicing. Also you gotta take it issue by issue. I'm not really Left Right or whatever; I just have a lot of different opinions. I'm a realist- no faction is ever going to permanently make the world a better place and even when factions do improve the world they can weaken it in some other way. George Washington feared political parties.

Edgar Erebus
01-05-2007, 06:09 PM
Political affiliation: independent
Where on political spectrum: moderate communist, quite far left

Shoulda make this a poll

Gawd
01-05-2007, 06:12 PM
Neo Conservative/I would slaughter most ppl.

DREW-DIE$EL
01-05-2007, 06:13 PM
very conservative.

Ultimate Fist
01-05-2007, 06:16 PM
Neo Conservative/I would slaughter most ppl.



What does Neo-Con even mean?

I've only heard it used as a diss by liberal dudes.

Gawd
01-05-2007, 06:35 PM
Far right wing.

GENERAL WISE
01-05-2007, 06:39 PM
I ain't shit on the political spectrum... I don't vote... I don't give a fuck about what is going on... shit will never change... and they use me not giving a fuck to justify the bullshit they do... fuck politics!


You have to be on the political spectrum, you can't be off it.

aka its a circle

you sound like an anarchist

so thats somewhere on the "off the scale, i.e. left from communism and right from facism.

GENERAL WISE
01-05-2007, 06:40 PM
What does Neo-Con even mean?

I've only heard it used as a diss by liberal dudes.


new age conservative. I.e every one should be a reborn Christian

normal conservative wants it back to the 1950's

Ultimate Fist
01-05-2007, 07:49 PM
Where do you stand on the issues?

Abortion
Affirmative Action
Crime
Death Penalty
Education
Economics
Gay Marriage
Guns
Health Care
Illegal/General Immigration
Social Security
Any others...

Ultimate Fist
01-05-2007, 07:57 PM
For me...

Abortion-Against except if its gonna kill the mother
Affirmative Action- Should focus more on entrepreneurial/business ownership than general employment. The more black owned businesses in black communities, the better economic situation.
Crime- More rehabilitation oriented prisons. Teach them life skills, meditation (to calm the violent ones the fuck the down). No weights though, we dont need them getting any bigger.
Death Penalty- Victims family should have final say once convicted.
Drugs- Legalize PCP. That way the lil fucks will buy that and they'll never want to do drugs again. LOL. I'm joking. Maybe legalize pot.
Economics- Generally capitalistic
Education- Less science and crap people don't use. More business oriented and at least one philosophy class in every year of high school- there isnt enough critical thinking and independent thought in our society.
Gay Marriage- Only if we legalize polygamy too...
Guns- As lose as possible but nothing for ex-convicts
Health Care- Free for serious shit
Illegal/General Immigration- Shut down that border for 50 years, set up programs for a transition (ie help poor people here get stable jobs) then open completely
Social Security- I dont know much about it
Religion- Too much power in Christian Coalition etc. We gotta break those lobbies down.

LHX
01-05-2007, 08:15 PM
which is the alignment that would allow me to rest peacefully?

V4D3R
01-05-2007, 10:11 PM
^^Death

tostones
01-05-2007, 11:05 PM
peace

the entire spectrum is corrupted

netscape check two
01-06-2007, 02:05 AM
How is legalizing gay marriage similar to legalizing polygamy? The topic was brought up by Bill O'Reilly on his show the other day.

Do ultra conservatives listen to the edited versions of Wu Tang albums?

Gawd
01-06-2007, 11:52 AM
Call it a civil union and you can have it
Call it marriage and you will get nothing.

Visionz
01-06-2007, 01:00 PM
Abortion-personally pro-life, but pro-choice in general

Affirmative Action--are people that hire still racist? I think that answer is atleast some of the time, so something's needed, don't know if the current system is the best approach.

Crime---better living equals less crime, I think our mentality in dealing with crime is reactionary vs. proactive. We could stop the crimes before they ever started for the most part

Death Penalty-think life in solitary confinement is a worse punishment
Education--the key to many of our problems and something that could use a major overhaul. We need more job-related training before a kid ever gets outta high school, honest history classes, and how to think for yourselves. Good math is important as well.
Economics--capitalism but I'd like to see more local companies and less major corporations
Gay Marriage-what you do with your personal life, so long as you ain't hurtin anyone else is your business
Guns---you gotta be able to protect yourself from the goverment
Health Care---should be universal
Illegal/General Immigration---stop fucking over other countries so they'll have their own jobs to provide.
Social Security---good idea, bad execution and was never meant to be around this long

Ultimate Fist
01-06-2007, 07:14 PM
How is legalizing gay marriage similar to legalizing polygamy? The topic was brought up by Bill O'Reilly on his show the other day.

Do ultra conservatives listen to the edited versions of Wu Tang albums?

Well Bill's point is that both are "bad" but I personally would prefer for polygamy to be legal. It's an ancient practice and hardly barbaric if practiced responsibly (ie not the freaky mormon way). Many religions condone it- Judaism and Islam allow 4 wives and Buddhism allows 9.

Ultimate Fist
01-06-2007, 07:15 PM
Abortion-personally pro-life, but pro-choice in general

Affirmative Action--are people that hire still racist? I think that answer is atleast some of the time, so something's needed, don't know if the current system is the best approach.

Crime---better living equals less crime, I think our mentality in dealing with crime is reactionary vs. proactive. We could stop the crimes before they ever started for the most part

Death Penalty-think life in solitary confinement is a worse punishment
Education--the key to many of our problems and something that could use a major overhaul. We need more job-related training before a kid ever gets outta high school, honest history classes, and how to think for yourselves. Good math is important as well.
Economics--capitalism but I'd like to see more local companies and less major corporations
Gay Marriage-what you do with your personal life, so long as you ain't hurtin anyone else is your business
Guns---you gotta be able to protect yourself from the goverment
Health Care---should be universal
Illegal/General Immigration---stop fucking over other countries so they'll have their own jobs to provide.
Social Security---good idea, bad execution and was never meant to be around this long

:satisfy: I like your immigration point.:thumbup:

HANZO
01-06-2007, 08:07 PM
Where do you stand on the issues?

Abortion
Affirmative Action
Crime
Death Penalty
Education
Economics
Gay Marriage
Guns
Health Care
Illegal/General Immigration
Social Security
Any others...

abortion - dont agree with it who are we to kill something that god has given to us. we have no right.

affirmative action - let the current system go on.

crime - serious crack down, who has the right to disturb the peace.

death penalty - only for the real in-humane shit, but im for the death penalty, as it puts fear into criminals.

education - the country needs to be educated, the level of dumb ppl in soceity is too much these days. put more math and science into a childs brain. teach them more about history and religion to.

economics - a cutdown on the very large monopoly's that are in this world. as it is they who are deciding what the consumer buys, and how people spend there money. and also to fairly tax the rich businessmen who find ways to get out of paying wat everyone else pays.

gay marriage - dont agree with it at all. if god wanted us to be gay he wouldnt have created women. it jus seems wrong

guns - they good for protection but if they fall in the wrong hands they aint so good. but i believe that if the population is well educated and not full of pshycos guns should be allowed.

health care - free health care for everyone who needs it. i dont think its ethical to pay for health care that the person needs.

immigration - if the ppl are not gonna live of the government and will benefit the nation let them in. if ppl want to immigrate they should provide for that country as every other of its citizens

social security - needs changing.

religion - should not be allowed to interfere with politics.

Visionz
01-06-2007, 08:14 PM
gay marriage - dont agree with it at all. if god wanted us to be gay he wouldnt have created women. it jus seems wrong
what about atheist that are gay? There's a reason the US has a seperation of church and state in the constitution. Personal convictions don't always translate into what is best for the whole.

HANZO
01-06-2007, 08:27 PM
what if you're atheist and gay?

dont matter. gay is gay, it jus doesnt seem right. gay couples cannot have children if the majority of the population were gay then we will be in trouble. im against it because its morally wrong if gay marriages are accepted today who knows wat other ridiculous thing will be allowed in the future.

Visionz
01-06-2007, 08:36 PM
dont matter. gay is gay, it jus doesnt seem right. gay couples cannot have children if the majority of the population were gay then we will be in trouble. im against it because its morally wrong if gay marriages are accepted today who knows wat other ridiculous thing will be allowed in the future.morally wrong? maybe it's just population control. If someone don't like pussy,mo' fo me. And I can't hate on lesbians I wouldn't be fucking with dudes either, but on the real starving children existing in the same world as obese people, that's morally wrong. No way the whole world would turn gay mayne, the fine ass ladies of the world dead all that noise, and shit the ugly ones too for that matter. Nothing competes with the beauty of a women, nothing.

maestro wooz
01-06-2007, 08:39 PM
fuck if i know where i am on the spectrum, changes by the day


Abortion-Pro choice but only up to a certain point, i think the mother should have the first two months or something to decide
Affirmative Action-not at all in the modern sense but i think the government should be able to be allowed to encourage hirings
Crime-its gonna happen regardless but i think we could do better then we are right now through improving aspects of society
Death Penalty-for it for certain severe situations
Education-public schools need to be redone with a more emphasis on skill building
Economics-capitalism with government influence to try to maintain an equilibrium and prevent rash happenings (ie. stock market crashes) and government help for starting up companies
Gay Marriage-not marriages but i support unions
Guns-not really sure
Health Care-better then it is currently but i dont support free health care for all, there needs to be limits on the handouts
Illegal/General Immigration-encourage legal migration and punish illegal migration harsher
Social Security-very flawed system, but im not sure if theres a solution out there that could be remarkably better

whitey
01-06-2007, 08:45 PM
i tend to be fairly liberal with most things.

id prefer a mixed capitalist/true communist economic system. there is no need for bill gates to have bill gates money, especially when some many other people have nothing in this world and the playing feild is not even close to being level.

Abortion-i used to be pro, but now i think about it and im not sure anymore on how i personally feel about it. but i dont think some people should tell others what to do with their bodys.

Affirmative Action-decent reasoning behind it (wanting to make things equal), but i think trying to make things equal, by making them unequal, is wrong.

Crime-wish it could be elimated, but thats hard to do when there are haves and have nots.

drugs-legalize them all. do what you want with your body.

Death Penalty-totally against it. you tell people to not kill, therfore you should not be able to kill no matter what theve done, its the same to me.

Education-need much more of it. its the only thing that will save people.

Economics-as i said a mix of capitalism and true communism.

Gay Marriage-fine by me. doesnt affect me either way though.

Guns-get rid of them. there is no need. the downside of them far outways the good.

Health Care-free for everyone. no ones life is more important than another persons, theres no reason it should be treated differently.

Illegal/General Immigration-people need to make a living. but countries have the sovergn right to make laws in their country. unlimited immigration anyplace would get out of control.

Social Security-a good idea, the system should be rethought and redone.

*enviornmental issues*-protect it, once we fuck it up, there may be no coming back.

illlx
01-07-2007, 01:32 AM
abortion-personally not sure, but generally pro choice, its your body do what you wish with it...
Affirmative action-against, although it does serve a purpose,people should be hired based on their skill, not their race. (for the record im not white)
crime-get rid of the conditions that cause it rather than put more people into over crowded prisons for minor shit, save prison for the real criminals
drugs-make everything legal, just keep em away from people with a predisposition to abuse or those who peddle them to kids
death penalty-against, isolate them and they'll wish they were dead
education-give everyone an excellent education regardless of their income, knowledge is necessary for survival (with an emphasis on real life skills)
economics-true communist
gay marriage-let them marry, and be as miserable as straight married people
guns-let those who want them have them, just keep them away from crazy fucks
health care-free for everyone regardless of income, life is priceless
immigration-all immigration should be legal, border control is bullshit. if their was less of a crack down on this, those who pick crops for a ridiculously low amount of money could actually enter the mainstream workplace and get a feel for how actual life is in said country.
social security-it should be up to the individual. if you want to save, go ahead. if you want your cash now, i cant blame you....
enviornment: take fucking care of it, its the only world we got...

netscape check two
01-07-2007, 11:48 PM
Concerning abortion, what if a woman gets raped and becomes pregnant? I find something wrong with a person that is against abortion in that case. If a woman is against abortion, she ends up getting raped, and becomes pregnant, lets see if she changes her viewpoint.

Like I said before, I get tired of people bringing God into the thick of things. God wants this, god wants that. Nobody even knows if God existed, not to sound blunt. People should come up with their own beliefs, instead of basing things on some old book, that nobody knows is 100 percent factual, 50 percent factual, or factual at all. The US marriage system in general doesn't seem to be working, so why not get rid of all marriages then? More than half of all new marriages end in divorce within 2 years. More of the world is straight, and the world is still messed up. I don't know how it would be anymore messed up, if gay people are allowed to marry? That doesn't make any sense.

Concerning immigration, I think there does need to be a limit. How crowded do you want the US to become? I like my space, and not bumping into tons of other people.

Concerning the environment, I'm all for it. Maybe the next President will be more pro-environment, instead of pro big corporations, and big stupidity. And maybe the next Vice-President won't be the recent former President of a big oil company.

Concerning polygamy, what if a woman wanted to marry a bunch of guys? Is that ok, or do you only support a guy marrying a bunch of naive women?

Frontal Lobotomy
01-08-2007, 03:20 PM
Functional rebel / far left
Even though i'm leftwing, I don't buy into all the socialist garbage, they're just rich kids trying to piss their daddies off.
If I can figure out the 'next step' I'll start the revolution

Visionz
01-08-2007, 04:50 PM
Functional rebel / far left
Even though i'm leftwing, I don't buy into all the socialist garbage, they're just rich kids trying to piss their daddies off.
If I can figure out the 'next step' I'll start the revolution
let me know when that happens, I'm down like 4 flat tires.

whitey
01-08-2007, 05:20 PM
Functional rebel / far left
Even though i'm leftwing, I don't buy into all the socialist garbage, they're just rich kids trying to piss their daddies off.
If I can figure out the 'next step' I'll start the revolution


i dont know about all that. maybe some of the herbs that wear che shirts around but i dont think they really know anyhting about it and are just wearing it to be cool.


and far left rebel is a communist so i dont really get what you mean by your statement. maybe explain it if you want, no biggie.

Frontal Lobotomy
01-08-2007, 05:27 PM
I'm not talking about the fashion victims. You go to socialist meetings and shit and the people in charge are always upper middle class, talking about marxism. One meet I was at had people referring to themselves as marxists, I mean what the hell is with that? Marxism is rich-boy talk, never meant for action. I'd go as far to even say that Marxist theory it self is an instrument of the upper class power structure. Much like modern day consiracy theories. Making shit fun to talk about instead of acting on it.

Visionz
01-08-2007, 05:32 PM
the thing with communism is that it works really well on paper, and in execution if we're talkin about bees and ants. other than that, its never been carried out correctly and probably can't be. I wish there was someway to keep the capitalist function intact but limiting the power of corperations so that they couldn't run rampant the way they do now.

ARRCIMEDES
01-08-2007, 05:40 PM
Where do you stand on the issues?

Abortion
Affirmative Action
Crime
Death Penalty
Education
Economics
Gay Marriage
Guns
Health Care
Illegal/General Immigration
Social Security
Any others...

YEAH SOMEONE JUST PUT THE WORDS IN THE WRONG ORDER. HERE IT IS DONE CORRECTLY...

Social Guns:mexico:
Security Action:cop:
Illegal Abortion :Y
Marriage Education:stroke:
Gay Economics;D
Immigration Health Care:list:
General Crime Penalty:thumbdwn:
Death Affirmative:o

This is my basic pyramid of a social structure.:z

whitey
01-08-2007, 06:25 PM
I'm not talking about the fashion victims. You go to socialist meetings and shit and the people in charge are always upper middle class, talking about marxism. One meet I was at had people referring to themselves as marxists, I mean what the hell is with that? Marxism is rich-boy talk, never meant for action. I'd go as far to even say that Marxist theory it self is an instrument of the upper class power structure. Much like modern day consiracy theories. Making shit fun to talk about instead of acting on it.


i think they refer to themselves as marxists because they are true, or want to be as close to true, as to what marx was saying.


theres many forms of communism. its been changed by people, leninism, maoism, stalinism, pol-potism ect. they all changed marxism to fit their specific time and place. hence its not really what marx had said. it was used by those people as a means of control. communism is supposed to be the ultimate equalizer. what lenin and the rest did was bastardize it so they could live fat.

Frontal Lobotomy
01-08-2007, 07:15 PM
Thats fair to say with every 'communist' revolution to date. I think thats what makes finding the solution so difficult, living in a world of labels makes getting the message that bit harder to get across, or even figuring out what said message is..

GENERAL WISE
01-08-2007, 09:27 PM
Abortion - first trimester only
Affirmative Action - nah
Crime - Its bad :yessad:
Death Penalty yes, historically human
Education Good, should spend more Gov't $$$ than defense
Economics Republican plat form is better, but corruption...
Gay Marriage - Union
Guns - Yes, 2nd amendment
Health Care - not universal, doctors would become lazy
Illegal/General Immigration - Limit to only USEFUL immigrants (i.e pro's)
Social Security - obsolete in 10 years