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ballistic
07-20-2005, 01:05 AM
i dont listen to Will Smith a lot, but i don't hold any ill will towards him in the least. it seems that lot of the "true hip hop heads" do though, so i'd just like to get some reasons why. he was a pioneer, and in my mind he should be held in the same regard as other seminal acts like Run DMC. sure he's not the greatest MC, but he's always been at least decent, not to mention positive. i know he's a big movie star now, but what is your opinion of him?

SHRAP
07-20-2005, 01:07 AM
big willy

tical2000
07-20-2005, 02:14 AM
my opinion of WILL SMITH = nerd

Knicks
07-20-2005, 02:41 AM
fresh prince is one of the best shows ever

R3beLuTionAry
07-20-2005, 02:47 AM
i dont like his music but i respect him and like his work on film

staycreepin_n_silence
07-20-2005, 02:48 AM
Naw he's a true entertainer. he can rap he just raps And he's a good actor. i give props to my strong black brothas that getting his. Respect to will smith

Welshkillabee
07-20-2005, 03:55 AM
I gotta respect Will hes done great for himself, his music is not my cup of tea though.

Wallabee_God
07-20-2005, 05:43 AM
I got all his albums. One thing ive noticed is his new album "Lost and Found" has more of a traditional hip hop style than his previous albums. On Willenium for example there are quite a lot of Happy Happy songs like Will2K. On his new album the beats are more like what you would expect from a Rapper.

He may be different from other well known rappers but hes done well for himself and should be respected for the success hes had.

iNtell3kT
07-20-2005, 05:58 AM
Switch was a hot joint, i thought so anyways, Summer Time is a classic joint, reminds me of Ice Cubes It Was A Good Day song, similar in the beats and flow.....

much props for his actin, hes funny, and entertaining, never get board of him, he always gots somthing, props on his family too, he is a serious guy too, he gots Jada and like 3 kids or somthing, dudes way far from his Bel-Air days and is alllll grown up

big ups to Will Smith

Godess
07-20-2005, 06:00 AM
Funny guy.

lowkeysaid
07-20-2005, 06:05 AM
i respect him for his longevity in hip hop harrrrrrd , but comparing him to RUN DMC?? pahleeeeeeeease

TrueDciple
07-20-2005, 08:41 AM
He's a cool cat plus he can act and rap decently. My fav. joints of his are Summertime and just crusin. and movies I like I.robot, Hitch, Bad Boys 1 and 2.


Peace!

Prolifical ENG
07-20-2005, 08:43 AM
HIs stuff as the Fresh Prince with DJ Jazzy Jeff is good.

002
07-20-2005, 08:58 AM
yea, he can flow. but he aint no fuckin pioneer. KRS, Percee P, Kool G Rap, Kool Moe Dee, Slick Rick and fuckin Rakim are pioneerz. when Percee P was rappin, and fuckin with flows that Will Smith aint even dreamin of, fuckin AIDS didn't even exist. oh, and he always plays himself in his movies. except the one where he's playin a fag. that was some good acting.

kingidivine
07-20-2005, 09:46 AM
The only thing I have against Will Smith is when he still tries to rap. People can justify it and say he's gettin' money, but come on now. Dude makes $20 million per movie. He could spend a month making a wack-ass movie rather than embarassing himself on the radio. It's not like he's even trying. His ish is str8up manufactured pop music, like Nelly or Britney Spears.

THE W
07-20-2005, 09:50 AM
i dont pay attention to him

Analyze
07-20-2005, 09:55 AM
^^^ I dont think any self-respecting RAP fans should pay attention to this guy. Movies, yeah, rap, negative.

36chambers
07-20-2005, 10:12 AM
Whoever dont like Summertime, Boom shake the room, Just Cruisin... shit like that need there head checked. Its good music, some of u need to look past the fact that its "Will Smith" and just listen to the music. Summertime is a classic, its the only track that comes back EVERY YEAR in the summer and played over and over and u still cant get tired of it.

People just hate Will Smith so much because hes successful but if u overlook that and listen to his albums between 87-94 u cant really go wrong.

Prolifical ENG
07-20-2005, 10:19 AM
but he aint no fuckin pioneer. KRS, Percee P, Kool G Rap, Kool Moe Dee, Slick Rick and fuckin Rakim are pioneerz.

Actually, Fresh Prince and Dj Jazzy Jeff's album Rock The House came out in 1987. Some of the people you listed didnt even have an album out until a few years after. Some the same year....and some before.

You could call them pioneers and say that they had more hip hop influence than Will Smith, however they werent true pioneers. In the late 80's most of them were considerd the new school guys.

OwnageNinja
07-20-2005, 10:30 AM
A great actor, but in 97 he completely sold out rap wise. His rap is garbage now.

tragedykhadafi12
07-20-2005, 11:44 AM
How can you not like will smith? I dont mean his music but in general.

sakk
07-20-2005, 11:49 AM
Gettin jiggy with it.

wu-tang1988
07-20-2005, 12:46 PM
i think hes a great actor, and a good rapper... his raps aint my style, but its positive, and he dont curse on his albums, wich is quite good accually, and hes a good rolemodel for the children! and FRESH PRINCE is the BEST SHOW EVER!!!
much respect to big willie!

peace

pussy-with-teeth
07-20-2005, 01:34 PM
that song "swith" is off the chain no doubt - i bumbed that shit straight 10 times in the car when it came out

jaywoods27
07-20-2005, 02:17 PM
will smith is a good actor one of my fav. Some of his songs are good to. He is a cool guy.

ballistic
07-20-2005, 02:22 PM
good to see that will smith gets the proper respect in here...i think he should be revered for the fact that he's doing all these big-budget, blockbuster movies, and is still making time for hip-hop; because you know he doesn't need that extra money. he came out 18 years ago, and he's still making relavent music. who else can really say that in the hip hop genre??
and he's the fresh prince of bel aire, that alone solidifies his legacy....

Analyze
07-20-2005, 02:41 PM
One good reason, how about he doesnt write his own shit. I dont dislike Will Smith but I wouldnt buy his CD's, but his movies are OK. Switch, was garabge by the way. I really dont get it people say they like switch, but then with their next post say some shit like "hip hop is wack".

Wu Forever

Antibody
07-20-2005, 04:41 PM
He sucks. My friend got one of his albums free with his bank account. Much laughter it brought.

Summertime is an alright song I admit, and fresh prince is pretty good, but I hate everything else about him.

Analyze
07-20-2005, 04:44 PM
My last reply was to Legato

dojo_pros
07-20-2005, 04:48 PM
big ears

JOHNNY_TICAL
07-20-2005, 08:24 PM
WILL SMITH.. SICK... evEN AS THE FRESH PRINCE.. .. MUCH RESPECT 2 HIM AND JAZZY JEFF.. 4 WUT THEY DONE.. // NOW ... JUST CRAZY HOW EVERY 1 KNOW WHO HE IS.. // LEGEND / OLD SCHOOL VETERAN... !!!

PEACE ..!!!

Polocash7
07-20-2005, 08:37 PM
great actor,wack rapper

TUCO
07-20-2005, 08:52 PM
the man is one of the great pioneers IMO
a great actor, great comedian, great MC....dont hate

PEACE

U-Samurai
07-21-2005, 02:44 AM
HAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAH, thats funny shit. great topic.

triggahappy187
07-21-2005, 02:53 AM
Come on Will Smith? Main he one of the biggest commercial niggas out there he always has been. Gettin Jiggy wit it? wtf? He do what he do u gotta giv eit up for the black brother so what u say bout chingy our black brotha? he doin good he commercial an everyone quick ta hate on em why? cuz he wasn around 15 years ago when rap was rap the pure form?

Rebel_INS
07-21-2005, 03:41 AM
my opinion of WILL SMITH = nerd
ROFL!!!!! Hahahahahaha

cap
07-21-2005, 06:12 AM
I Have A Lot Of Respect For Him
Check Out "the Rain"
Not For Everyday Use But Its Not All Bad

Analyze
07-21-2005, 08:18 AM
who said willy will dont write his own shit? give me proof i want proof.
Well, I know NAS wrote some shit on Big Willie, from what I heard.

__Goddess__
08-10-2005, 05:56 AM
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/interscope/willsmith/lostandfound/audio/partystarter/96_partystarter-radio.asx

__Goddess__
08-10-2005, 05:57 AM
haha

WuBanga36
08-10-2005, 06:01 AM
Still watch his Fresh Prince shows, one my favorites of all time.

Marc051
08-10-2005, 06:53 AM
not a good rapper or a good actor really

__Goddess__
08-10-2005, 07:01 AM
Better then you Mark051.

WuBanga36
08-10-2005, 07:04 AM
You bugging, he was madd funny in Fresh Prince. He is a better than a lot of other actors.

PHENIX
08-10-2005, 08:17 AM
One of my favorite actors. Rap wise he needs to hang it up. Welcome to miami and summertime was the only two songs I ever liked. He just bites a whole entire song puts some bullshit lyrics to it and everyone loves it. I dont understand. When other rappers bite a whole song and put some tight lyrics to it we call it biting and its wack. What's the difference between him and master p cause p did the same thing. To me he has no originality and creativity with his beats and stuff. I got mad respect for the dude cause he's makin money but I dont care for his music and if I ever catch one of my boys with one of his albums I might just kick his ass.

ramel
08-10-2005, 08:36 AM
fresh prince is one of the best shows ever
^^^^^
Co sign


That's my brother right there.
I look up to him growing up for his show mostly.
I even had higher expectations for him with big willie style til I heard get jiggy with it.
I thought he would come rawer than that.
But that still my dog.
He was realer than most because he was who were before we started trying to be hard and shit.
He made us just wanna be cool.
When that show went off on the last episode I felt it.
Plus you can't find a person who doesn't know the words to.............

"In west philadelphia born and raise
on the playgrounds is where I spent most of my days"....................



Ps SUMMERTIME WAS THE SHIT!!!

THE SHADOWHUNTA
08-10-2005, 08:41 AM
He's Been Puttin It Down For A Min I Respect The Man!

burninskald
08-10-2005, 09:35 AM
i like big willy. "switch" pisses me off -- its the weakest song on 'lost & found'. i like that album, i bumped it for like a week straight in my car, kinda burnt it out but its still good every once in a while. i dig on the tracks where he's talkin about the scenario in hiphop/rap game right now. check these bars:

"here's a call for the return of the unadulturated/back when the culture was cultivated/you know, back when the raps were smart/and multilayered/we could rap without a&rs and ultimatums"

that's from party starter, i think, a much better song than switch, esp. for the clubs. i mean, don't we all pretty much agree on feeling the same way as the lyrics express?

snapple
08-10-2005, 12:47 PM
next time you go to a BBQ throw on Summertime, that shit is classic right there

MefMan36
08-10-2005, 01:18 PM
Fresh Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything on TV today

arcane
08-10-2005, 05:31 PM
This freestyle was up on hiphopdx.com a few months back.. It's pretty hot all things considered.

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0IS9LQDHTCTBY0KDRNKK1FHUW7

Tell me what you think.

Frank Drebin
08-10-2005, 05:33 PM
TV he was funny
Movies he is shit
Music he is average just another rapper making money