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the silencer
03-11-2007, 12:25 AM
any questions and comments about lyrics to songs from the Wisemen Approaching album can be posted here....

ill start off with a few...

trying to figure the meaning off this line in Blinded...

"when my backbone gone say peace to the ammo, i love you.."


from Goblins:
"somethin strange in the courtroom, veins (?) is my fortune, im from a place where the avenues are scoarchin.."

and my favorite verse on the whole album, Bronze's on Wisemen Approaching (the track) has a few things in there that i wasnt able to decipher....ill type the full thing...

"i blow nicely like Ron Isley, word dice we roll, mouse n men behold
ice grill on my 86 slice the pie slightly
flee or fight me, end up floatin up Bightlee (???)
i scope n deliver rhyme program charismo
drown u in a sea of nickels sip a 5th slow..
crash around the main bench straight no chaser
silencer on the micstand skope no laser
my bitches stay in heels tied up around the calf sheels (???)
live in movie reels, exquisite ruby hills
dance (??) in field of dreams dirty as Bronson

head filled wit more schemes than snakes in the garden
i tippy-toe like samurai slit a throat on standby
interview in fields wit landmines perform live durin outbreaks
ebola virus outline the mic-case
paint scripts flee (??) faster than swimmin from sharks..
im known for spinnin darts towards ya melanin in dark
stoppin in at #1 without a shotgun
maybe platinum or just Bronze im out 1"

i coodnt interpret some stuff on there and alot of just flew over my head but i friggin love it....

Bronze, if u could clear some shit up to make it clearer it would be GREATLY appreciated...

TheNewMoses
03-11-2007, 12:56 AM
KEVLAAR 7: INTRODUCING (NO MATTER HOW)

Introducing a Wiseman, I rise seven flights
Above life, civilize the mic, in my a-alikes is I write
Breath life inside the dead, ran the chizzel, word, disturb visions(???)
Got me grasping prison bars, and flipping birds, if I get caught
My seeds'll be fatherless, I run wild through the gauntlets
And flaunt shit, my brothers die for a while in diamond caves
Raised with Stevie Wonder, thunder claps when I wear shades
I saw heaven, shine in my iris, for seven nights and seven days
Amazing scenes from my heart, is unseen, believe a nigga like me
Can't live for the CREAM, it's a dream, I'm Ray Robinson(???)
My hemoglobin force me, to watch my niggas die horribly
I'm here to ressurect, if you feeling me, take a walk with a nigga

Question: Kevlaar, what inspired this verse, and what is your connection with Stevie wonder and ray Robinson? isn't that Ray Charles?


KEVLAAR 7: FOUNDER OF PAIN

In stages hunger comes faceless, Purple Haze
One miss step my pagers(???) aimless, I die ageless
The movement need a facelift in these days when
Death is where the days went and life climbs from the basement

Please just elaborate. this shit is almost a flawless hook; the kind of hook that is everlasting.


SALUTE: UP THERE BEYOND-

It's a small town, but a big rep to hold up
Fuck a book, I wanna be a G when I grow up
Screws is lose, hustle leave it harder for juice
Got the future like the past, cuz they poison the youth
Marijuana selling, on the streets like cookies
Franchise teams, being lead by rookies
Hear it in the sky, it's him overlooking
So we stuck in the game, like at birth with a name
With a picture full of crack, in a positive frame(???)
Partners with terror, living in a gooned out era
Seeing death, more common than the face in the mirror
Tears of shame, murder raps, caught for change
Rest in peace, to Stone Red, for the born'll get slain(???)

This verse is so visual; a picture full of crack in a positive frame is some REAL shit. GOT damn. I don't know if i've heard a more visual verse this year; FUCK

PHILLIE: WISEMEN APPROACHING-

Your rap kinds is bygones, so long to pretending
Return of the gutter and grit, the streets have been thirsting for this
Since Re-Birth of a Prince, back to
Niggas who spit, darts that shatter bricks
Grimey as a park bench, built in a cement

These few lines capture the whole album's feel. Grimey, street shit that hits hard and leaves behind a lasting impression.

KEVLAAR 7: WISEMEN APPROACHING-

Invade a brother mind, and resurrect, the records crackle
My derelict speech, at the speed of a statue
My face don't move, my words, they show and prove
Disect the earth plates, and exhale a sandstorm
Transform and crash with impacts of 9/11
7 Kevlaar, God, me or the reverend(???)

This might be the craziest ending to a verse on the album. kevlaar 7 can you elaborate on this if you got time?

I got more just don't want to bombard the thread. like i said this album is lyrically superior.

Ya_Bane
03-11-2007, 08:49 AM
trying to figure the meaning off this line in Blinded...

"when my backbone gone say peace to the ammo, i love you.."



He might say "say peace to the admiral". In the second verse he says peace to the sergeant.

He also mentions both Think Differently and Babygrande in the lyrics in content, a'la GZA's Labels.

Bronze Nazareth
03-23-2007, 10:26 PM
SILENCER

"when my backbone gone say peace to the ammo, i love you.."


"when my backbone gone say peace to the admiral, i love you"

by backbone I mean my support and my strength, the woman
also they say behind every strong man is a strong woman
when I mention admiral or seargant (as in 2nd verse) I just mean a man of experience, someone who's earned his, so thats a colorful way to say I was her strength to as her man...

from Up There Beyond:
"somethin strange in the courtroom, veins (?) is my fortune, im from a place where the avenues are scoarchin.."


this I was being visual, trying to explian the feeling in the courtroom, when I say veins is my fortune, I mean my past (my family actually have traced our roots back to realtives on a slave plantation in VA) such as chains, or captivity, was in my blood (veins). So by that line I mean my past is the same as my future, -- jailtime

and my favorite verse on the whole album, Bronze's on Wisemen Approaching (the track) has a few things in there that i wasnt able to decipher....ill type the full thing...


Corrected verse and explanations:

I'm blowed nicely like Ron Isley,
word dice we roll, mice or men behold
ice grill on my 86 slice the pie slightly
flee or fight me, end up floatin up Bitely (Bitely, Michigan - place up north in Michigan with deep woods, and lakes)
i scope n deliver rhyme quote Gran Turismo
drown u in a sea of nickels sip a 5th slow..
crash around the main bend straight no chaser
silencer on the mic stand scope no laser
my bitches stay in heels tied up around the calf shields (meaning the legs in the calf area, you know the shoes that tie up all around the leg)
live in movie reels, exquisite ruby heels
Ganz a field of dreams dirty as Bronson (Ganz is slang for a potent weed in Detroit, Im saying my dream is to have whole field full)
head filled wit more schemes than snakes in the garden
i tippy-toe like samurai slit a throat on standby
interview in fields wit landmines perform live durin outbreaks
ebola virus outline the mic-case
pace gracefully faster than swimmin from sharks..
im known for spinnin darts towards ya melanin in dark
stoppin in at #1 without a shotgun
maybe platinum or just Bronze im out 1"


if you got more just throw it up...peace

the silencer
03-24-2007, 12:54 AM
whhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattt...

thats crazy...much respect for the explanations Bronze..

this just made the album better for me, now i gotta go to bed with that shit in the headphones...shit is fuckin deep

ill post more questions tomorrow...

DR. NICK RIVIERA
03-24-2007, 03:25 AM
thanks Bronze! love the album BTW!

the silencer
03-24-2007, 05:13 PM
couple more i got...

from Introducing
"casket stain on hands plaster the halls of famous lands
just like smog inside the lungs cramp.."
(im sure theres a dope meaning behind it..)


Welcome Home (crazy track)
"my mathematical science is: sea alliance off the highest bridge
iodine, triple beam balances.."


Honors Promise:
"i was conceived in a foxhole plenty of wolves, alligator on my chest see my face in the moon..."
dope imagery, sounds like a fuckin old fable or somethin...still tryin to wrap my brain around it...

:learning:



PS; just for the record....Mixture of Muhammad is a fuckin lyrical and musical masterpiece...i hope Kevlaar comes on here at some point n says somethin bout it...

Kevlaar 7
03-25-2007, 12:40 PM
PEACE and much appreciation to all for the love and support. We make our music straight from the heart, and it's good to see that ya'll see that.

First off for THENEWMOSES; Introducing was the first track we ever recorded for the Wisemen album. Me, Bronze and Phillie heard the beat and was like OH SHIT; this is the one. So we all started writing to it and came with a little concept. That verse is straight from my heart and basically what i was going thru and experiencing at that time. Trying to give ya'll some Jewels to live by knamean; The Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles thing represents the fact that we ALL blind at points in our life, but we can overcome that. Plus my pops listened to ALOT of Stevie when we was growing up. Thats my favorite nigga, word.

Ya'll got the hook to Founder of pain wrong so imma make the corrections;

In stages/ hunger comes faceless/ Purple Haze/
One misstep my page is aimless/ I'll die ageless/
The movement need a facelift/ in these days when/
Death is where the days went/ and life climbs from the basement...

There it is; this started off as me and Salute doing a joint together. i started writing my verse and when i stopped i was like, OH shit; this is the hook right here! the song was gonna be more elaborate and me and Bronze had a CRAZY song structure set up for that shit. But Salute came and ended that shit with his verse and that was all it needed.

Invade a brother mind, and resurrect, the records crackle
My derelict speech, at the speed of a statue
My face don't move, my words, they show and prove
Disect the earth plates, and exhale a sandstorm
Transform and crash with impacts of 9/11
7 Kevlaar, God, me or the reverend(???)

This might be the craziest ending to a verse on the album. kevlaar 7 can you elaborate on this if you got time?
Basically my verse on Wisemen approaching is a visual of how hip hop can come back to that raw shit; by invading a brutha's mind, knamean? The last line basically means that anything that goes on in my life is BETWEEN me and God. you know the number 7 is the God number; 7 Kevlaar God; my name between 7 and the name God; knamean;

SILENCER; thanks for the props on Mixture of Muhhamad; that was originally a beat i picked for my album and it was supposed to appear on my solo joint. Luckily i got to rock that beat because Ghost originally wanted that beat but never did anything with it. I just went in and wrote and shit was just flowing off the dome for me on that shit. Niggas gonna have to do some studying to catch all the jewels off that joint. Hit me if you want to know anything else about that joint.

Appreciate the questions, hit me if it's more. Imma see if Salute and Phillie can get on here and answer they questions. PEACE! 1

venex
03-25-2007, 02:46 PM
^^props to the whole wisemen !!!


it's great to see the artists themselves up here, to explain stuff and talkin' with the fans...great !!

I love the album, still bangin' it...

I might post a few things too later...

peace!

the silencer
03-25-2007, 03:00 PM
^^props to the whole wisemen !!!


it's great to see the artists themselves up here, to explain stuff and talkin' with the fans...great !!


yea this is really somethin special...much appreciation to the Wisemen

maestro wooz
03-25-2007, 06:20 PM
yo thanks alot bronze and kevlaar, for real you guys are awesome.

Bronze Nazareth
03-25-2007, 11:50 PM
from Introducing
"casket stain on hands plaster the halls of famous lands
just like smog inside the lungs cramp.."


casket stains on hands - I been a pallbearer too many times you know?
plaster the halls of famous lands - Just saying I wanna travel see shit and leave my mark

this ties in with the next line:
just like smog inside the lungs (really meaning smoke) cramped
monthly flows I unveil...

I meant my lungs had so much smoke they were cramped full, but also tied cramped in by saying monthly flows (you know how women get they period once a month, and have cramps from it) and monthly flows also means I got verses of the month and shit...



Welcome Home (crazy track)
"my mathematical science is: sea alliance off the highest bridge
iodine, triple beam balances.."

my mathematical sciences See/Sea alliance off the highest bridge - I tied that sea and bridge together olike an bridge over the water, and the see off the highest bridge together, like if you can look down off the highest bridge you can see everything so thas what I meant there.
iodine, triple beam balances - thas drug talk but Im just saying my rhmyes is dope


Honors Promise:
"i was conceived in a foxhole plenty of wolves, alligator on my chest see my face in the moon..."
dope imagery, sounds like a fuckin old fable or somethin...still tryin to wrap my brain around it...

yeah thas just some imagery, saying I was born in wild times, people will remember the shirt with tha alligator on the chest, we had that when we was young but I also meant, that it was a fight like a real gator on my chest type shit the ultimate struggle


100

Fresh Breath
04-25-2007, 09:52 AM
Much respect to Bronze an Kevlaar jus made the album so much better... i still got the album on repeat!!

Ya_Bane
05-04-2007, 05:32 AM
Major props to Kevlaar and Bronze for comming here building.

Doing my best promoting WA over here, the album is fucken sick. Mixture of Muhammed is my fav joint on there. Illness and Associated, Up There Beyond, too many bangas on there...


this I was being visual, trying to explian the feeling in the courtroom, when I say veins is my fortune, I mean my past (my family actually have traced our roots back to realtives on a slave plantation in VA) such as chains, or captivity, was in my blood (veins). So by that line I mean my past is the same as my future, -- jailtime

sick

pneumatic
05-04-2007, 08:56 AM
Wow I just caught this thread. Peace to Bronze and Kev and peace to Detroit, even though lately it's a dying city.

the silencer
05-09-2007, 10:48 PM
i hand you my page, could u feel my drift?
my heart is steelmine stiff, diamond cave rich..


havent been able to get this line outta my head lately....shit is just too ill..and im still tryin to fully understand the meaning(s) behind it

the silencer
07-03-2008, 05:50 PM
in honor of the fact that we're gonna (FINALLY!!) start seeing some new material from these cats very soon, i wanted to resurrect this thread and spark some thought/discussion on the art these cats produce..

i'm gonna start off by taking a look at the lyrics to Mixture of Muhammad, then later on when i get the time i'm gonna look at some more tracks from this album and other Bronze/Kevlaar stuff from other sources ("Streets is My Home" for instance)..


i'm sure that I am gonna get alot of this wrong--not only the interpretations but even just WHAT it is that's being said but that's what this whole thing is for and hopefully the brother Kevlaar might be gracious enough to come through and bless us with a look inside the mind of the writer here..



Mixture of Muhammad
performed by Kevlaar 7
produced by Bronze Nazareth



heyyo, guru with rhyme voodoo, guns big as Mutulu

Mutulu Shakur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutulu_Shakur)---link from wikipedia

through two realms, yo watch me cool off hell
My grill ain't icey but for real i gets dicey and slice three books into the Gospel of Me

always loved that "Gospel of Me" line...

Fifty states of mayhem and ?ma? breaks bread,
dread sky for the basis, gimme my brush to paint this

the first bunch of lines in this song it feels like we're getting warmed up to the energetic, crazy part that's gonna come soon and "gimme my brush to paint this" is a perfect way to visualize that...Kevlaar is a MAD visual lyricist using poetically detailed descriptions (as we'll see soon)..

Sang praises at faces, that mandated us nameless
now flavors are tasteless, the wind just takes it

i think the first line may be a reference to what Killah Priest makes note of often: the image of a white Christ, an image which has been speculated to be of Cesare Borgia....and then the whites mandated blacks nameless by making them slaves, pure property instead of people, breaking up families, etc...

alot in that one line, no?

I have a gift intended to uplift, come on vocal sample lady yo SING THAT SHIT!

acknowledging the rolling eerie voice that forms the backbone of this dope beat from Bronze Nazareth

I came and went, blazed and bent
drawn from my heart aimin' to pay my rent goddamnit

one of my favorite lines on the song, he spins the "bent" part of the first line into a beautiful bow-and-arrow metaphor...he's launchin these arrows through the air and displayin artwork in the process but what it basically comes down to is that he's tryin to eat off this shit..

Specialize in lifetimes of rhymin'
inclined to do crimes man, to spit full time
I seen Ray walk inside beams of sunshine
inhale braillle, exhale scenes of lifetimes

i'm assuming "Ray" here is Ray Charles, the singer..and the last line is referring to braille which is the dots that blind people use to read...they FEEL it...so Kevlaar is sayin he 'inhales' or soaks in everything and all his feelings and emotions in life and exhales these 'scenes of lifetimes' in other words---these landscape paintings: artwork..

the rest of the song is delivered so powerfully that I have to put it in all caps, otherwise it just wouldn't be an accurate representation of the song..

EYELIDS ARE HEAVY, STEADY, SPIT DEADLY HYBRID
CLIMB TEN LADDERS LEAP INSIDE MY BRAIN MATTER

now it's like a switch has gone off and K7 is spittin' like a man possessed...matter of fact, it's metaphorically comparable to the fits that the Prophet Muhammad used to go into and which spurned what we now know as the Holy Quran and the religion of Islam...Muhammad would become possessed and just start reciting the word of Allah..

Kevlaar here has become possessed and is spittin' like a madman, opening up his lyrical mind to us....let's leap inside

THE RAP MAD HATTER, SPLATTER ALPHA ALL OVER THE GRAND DELTA
KNELT TO BEATS AND PUT ACROSS MY SHELTER

"the rap mad hatter"---certainly a portrait of a madman..
he's fuckin with beats that are so beautiful and MAJESTIC that they are knelt to..

FELT THE LIGHTIN' STRIKE, WINDPIPES COMPRESSED, DIGRESS
SEE MY FATIGUE-PAINTED THOUGHTS COME ACROSS AS RAW FORCES
HATE MEAT AND PORK
DECLARE LAW AS I FOUGHT, JOHN HAWKINS IN EVERY ICEY FORT

some crazy imagery that i'm not even gonna attempt to take a crack at...

TOSS THE GOOD SHIT, BLACK HOLES AND A PULPIT
FORFEIT THE NORTH BITCH, SEVEN ENFORCE THIS

some bugged-out metaphorical imagery describin the dopeness that he delivers in his rhymes...he gives us black holes (meaning: some really deep and powerful shit) and pulpits--a pulpit is platform or altar where clergy recite from...so he's throwin the deepest, most powerful shit while standing on a spiritual stage


SATIVA REAP ADVANTAGE, FEED THE MIRROR
INTENSE INCENSE SPLITS FEAR AND ICY WHISPERS DELIVER
FLAMIN' LADELS, SPIT OMEGA FABLES

this is a deep one so i'm gonna take it one section at a time..."sativa reap advantage" if i got the words right is dealing with weed (sativa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_sativa)) and the possible 'advantages' it affords a poet/artist....it 'feed[s] the mirror' in other words it's feeding the ego, and enabling one to focus more on expression of personality..
the next part is almost like a symmetrical parallel to the first part...'intense incense' could be marijuana again and it 'splits fear' another advantage...

now the other part: icy whispers deliver flaming ladles--
his lyrics are dark, COLD words (this rugged hip hop after all) but with these he's delivering HOT FOOD...in the same vein as "Thought for Food"...a ladle is like a big spoon used to serve soup


CRADLE GRAVES IN MY ARMS AND LAY IN LEVEL ANGLES
ANGELS VISIT BASSINETS, WHISTLE CLARINETS CUZ I REST MY LAST MOMENTS ON MURKY CLOUDS OF DEATH

the last lines are some deep dark shit, Edgar Allen Poe style....again, he's using symmetry here (i love the way these brothers write) to paint a picture of death:

-cradle graves in my arms is like he's an angel of death..
-laying in level angles means laying down flat, such as when dead
-angels visit bassinets--a bassinet is a bed that babies lay in, he's tying that in with the "cradle graves in my arms" part
and then to close it out he's basically just leaving one of those flamboyant artistic signatures, that whole last line starting with "whistle clarinets" is just an image of death, and with it he completes the dark, disturbing--yet poetically beautiful---closing stanza to this terrific song...

the silencer
07-03-2008, 05:55 PM
also...

as for the title of the song "Mixture of Muhammad" i think it's intended to be a mix of the prophecies and spiritual enlightenment of the Prophet as well as the strong yet elegant powerful punch from the boxer Muhammad Ali..

that's the thought i get when i hear the scratching in the end of the song from a Canibus line...

Kevlaar 7
07-06-2008, 09:55 PM
The lines i underlined and bolded are corrections in the lyrics and i'll breakdown the breakdowns.

heyyo, guru with rhyme voodoo, guns big as Mutulu

Mutulu Shakur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutulu_Shakur)---link from wikipedia

Rule two realms, yo watch me cool off hell
My grill ain't icey but for real i gets dicey and slice three books into the Gospel of Me

always loved that "Gospel of Me" line...

Fifty states of mayhem/ Imad breaks bread,
dread Scott for the basis, gimme my brush to paint this

the first bunch of lines in this song it feels like we're getting warmed up to the energetic, crazy part that's gonna come soon and "gimme my brush to paint this" is a perfect way to visualize that...Kevlaar is a MAD visual lyricist using poetically detailed descriptions (as we'll see soon)..

IMAD IS ME, AND YA'LL SHOULD REALLY DO THE KNOWLEDGE ON DRED SCOTT.

Aimed razors at faces, that mandated us nameless
now flavors are tasteless, the wind just takes it

i think the first line may be a reference to what Killah Priest makes note of often: the image of a white Christ, an image which has been speculated to be of Cesare Borgia....and then the whites mandated blacks nameless by making them slaves, pure property instead of people, breaking up families, etc...

alot in that one line, no?
BASICALLY THAT CORECTED LINE IS AN EYE FOR AN EYE TYPE OF MENTALITY. RELEASING SOME AGGRESION ON THE SUBJECT OF BEING MANDATED NAMELESS AND US NEVER BEING ABLE TO KNOW OUR TRUE NAMES THUS NOT KNOWING OUR ORIGINAL ANCESTRY.

I have a gift intended to uplift, come on vocal sample lady yo SING THAT SHIT!

acknowledging the rolling eerie voice that forms the backbone of this dope beat from Bronze Nazareth

WORD!

I came and went, blazed and bent
drawn from my heart aimin' to pay my rent goddamnit

one of my favorite lines on the song, he spins the "bent" part of the first line into a beautiful bow-and-arrow metaphor...he's launchin these arrows through the air and displayin artwork in the process but what it basically comes down to is that he's tryin to eat off this shit.. ON POINT FAM!

Specialize in lifetimes of rhymin'
inclined to do crimes man, to spit full time
I seen Ray walk inside beams of sunshine
inhale braillle, exhale scenes of lifetimes

i'm assuming "Ray" here is Ray Charles, the singer..and the last line is referring to braille which is the dots that blind people use to read...they FEEL it...so Kevlaar is sayin he 'inhales' or soaks in everything and all his feelings and emotions in life and exhales these 'scenes of lifetimes' in other words---these landscape paintings: artwork.. ON POINT ONE MO' GIN!

the rest of the song is delivered so powerfully that I have to put it in all caps, otherwise it just wouldn't be an accurate representation of the song..

EYELIDS ARE HEAVY, STEADY, SPIT DEADLY HYBRID
CLIMB TEN LADDERS LEAP INSIDE MY BRAIN MATTER

now it's like a switch has gone off and K7 is spittin' like a man possessed...matter of fact, it's metaphorically comparable to the fits that the Prophet Muhammad used to go into and which spurned what we now know as the Holy Quran and the religion of Islam...Muhammad would become possessed and just start reciting the word of Allah..

YO I'M IMPRESSED ON HOW ON POINT YOU ARE ABOUT MY SPITTING WITH SUCH FURY IN THE 2ND VERSE. ANYONE WHO KNOW'S THE BASIC STORY ON THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) KNOWS THE DEAL! ONLY I WAS WRITING AS IT FLOWED OUT OF ME.

Kevlaar here has become possessed and is spittin' like a madman, opening up his lyrical mind to us....let's leap inside

THE RAP MAD HATTER, SPLATTER ALPHA ALL OVER THE GRAND DELTA
KNELT TO BEATS/ EMPLOY THE PULSE/ MY SHELTER

"the rap mad hatter"---certainly a portrait of a madman..
he's fuckin with beats that are so beautiful and MAJESTIC that they are knelt to..

WORD! ASLO MY PULSE WHICH I EMPLOY IS MY SHELTER...

FELT THE LIGHTIN' STRIKE, WINDPIPES COMPRESSED, DIGRESS
SEE MY FATIGUE-PAINTED THOUGHTS COME ACROSS AS RAW FORCE AS SATAN EATING PORK
DECLARED LAW AS I FOUGHT, JOHN HAWKINS IN EVERY ICEY FORT

some crazy imagery that i'm not even gonna attempt to take a crack at...

I'M SUCH A RAW FORCE LYRICALLY AND MENTALLY YOU COULD COMPARE IT TO THE CRAZY IMAGERY OF SATAN EATING PORK. YA'LL KNOW WHO SATAN IS AND PORK IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED FOOD IN SEVERAL RELIGIONS, MAINLY THE 3 ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS. IT IS VERY UNCLEAN AND FULL OF DISEASE. SO SATAN IS FUCKING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE! LOL!

TORCHED THE GOOD SHIP, BLACK COALS IN THE PULPIT
FORFEIT THE NORTH BITCH, SEVEN ENFORCE THIS

I'M SPEAKING ON "GOOD SHIP JESUS" WHICH WAS THE FIRST SHIP THAT BROUGHT SLAVES OVER HERE TO THE "NEW LAND". LOL! ANYWAY, MORE AGGRESSION AS I IMAGINE TORCHING IT LEAVING ONLY COALS IN THE PULPIT BEHIND.

some bugged-out metaphorical imagery describin the dopeness that he delivers in his rhymes...he gives us black holes (meaning: some really deep and powerful shit) and pulpits--a pulpit is platform or altar where clergy recite from...so he's throwin the deepest, most powerful shit while standing on a spiritual stage


SATIVA REAP ADVANTAGE, FEED THE MIRROR
INTENSE INCENSE SPLITS FEAR AND ICY WHISPERS DELIVER
FLAMIN' LADELS, SPIT OMEGA FABLES

this is a deep one so i'm gonna take it one section at a time..."sativa reap advantage" if i got the words right is dealing with weed (sativa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_sativa)) and the possible 'advantages' it affords a poet/artist....it 'feed[s] the mirror' in other words it's feeding the ego, and enabling one to focus more on expression of personality..
the next part is almost like a symmetrical parallel to the first part...'intense incense' could be marijuana again and it 'splits fear' another advantage...

now the other part: icy whispers deliver flaming ladles--
his lyrics are dark, COLD words (this rugged hip hop after all) but with these he's delivering HOT FOOD...in the same vein as "Thought for Food"...a ladle is like a big spoon used to serve soup

YOU ON POINT ONCE AGAIN FAM, WORD. THE LAST LINE MEANS I SPIT LINES THAT END TIME, BECAUSE OMEGA IS THE END. IT'S ALSO CONNECTED TO A LINE IN THE 1ST VERSE THAT SAYS "I SPLATTER ALPHA ALL OVER THE GRAND DELTA". ALPHA IS THE BEGGINING.


CRADLE GRAVES IN MY ARMS AND LAY IN LEVEL ANGLES
ANGELS VISIT BASSINETS, WHISTLE CLARINETS CUZ I REST MY LAST MOMENTS ON MURKY CLOUDS OF DEATH

the last lines are some deep dark shit, Edgar Allen Poe style....again, he's using symmetry here (i love the way these brothers write) to paint a picture of death:

-cradle graves in my arms is like he's an angel of death..
-laying in level angles means laying down flat, such as when dead
-angels visit bassinets--a bassinet is a bed that babies lay in, he's tying that in with the "cradle graves in my arms" part
and then to close it out he's basically just leaving one of those flamboyant artistic signatures, that whole last line starting with "whistle clarinets" is just an image of death, and with it he completes the dark, disturbing--yet poetically beautiful---closing stanza to this terrific song...

ALSO THAT LAST LINE REPRESENTS ME BEING MENTALLY DEAD AND THE NOTION OF BEING MENTALLY RESSURECTED...

PEACE! ON SUM REAL SHIT FAM I ENJOYED READING YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE JOINT, AND ALSO BRINGING SOME MORE SHIT TO THE TABLE NIGGAS PROBABLY DIDN'T CATCH IN THERE. FEEDBACK IS LOVE! PEACE! 1

TAURO
07-06-2008, 10:06 PM
Props on the breakdown Kevlaar.

Also can I just say that really love this album, I appreciate the work that was put into it. This is honestly one of the few albums I bump all the way through, every song is relevant. Major props to the whole Wisemen click for making this old wu head happy.

Kevlaar 7
07-06-2008, 10:51 PM
Appreciate the props and love Tauro! New Wisemen shit coming SOON from the whole clique! PEACE! 1

TAURO
07-06-2008, 11:02 PM
Appreciate the props and love Tauro! New Wisemen shit coming SOON from the whole clique! PEACE! 1

I look forward to it. I don't know whats going on behind the scenes but I hope Rza, the rest of the clan and affiliates recognize your group for the top quality you guys bring to the table.

Not to come off like a dickrider or anything but I just think you guys deserve props and recognition by these dudes who have been in the game longer.

pneumatic
07-06-2008, 11:12 PM
Good shit K7.

I love it when you guys actually come in here and build with us.

Props on the break downs Kev & Silencer.

DrunkenMasta303
07-06-2008, 11:21 PM
I look forward to it. I don't know whats going on behind the scenes but I hope Rza, the rest of the clan and affiliates recognize your group for the top quality you guys bring to the table.

Not to come off like a dickrider or anything but I just think you guys deserve props and recognition by these dudes who have been in the game longer.

^word

kevlaar and bronze neva disappointed, they always bring the heat

the wisemen are a guarantee for dopeness

Maccabee Ridah
07-07-2008, 10:12 AM
Appreciate the props and love Tauro! New Wisemen shit coming SOON from the whole clique! PEACE! 1

Damn, I can't wait for that shyt.....

Wisemen Approaching was fuckin great, with plenty really quality shyt, pure gems, like Mixtures Of Mohamed..........

I'm never enough of bumopin that shyt!


Peace K7..............

the silencer
02-27-2009, 12:28 AM
a couple questions on various lines from the album while i sit here watchin Dirty Harry wreck shit...


Introducing (No Matter How)

Bronze verse:
"Feelin ya laws grow large like them amphibians in jars"

not sure if the word is 'laws' or what it refers to if it is..




Kevlaar on Illness:
"Like CREAM rule Jesus, he wore brilliant Muhammad pieces"


not sure what it's talkin about, especially since there's no imagery of Muhammad at all in fact Islam tries to totally de-emphasize what he may have looked like (probly to prevent somethin like our pretty ridiculous modern image of a white Jesus)..

the style of Middle Eastern clothes maybe? dono...


Kevlaar 7 on Associated

nice imagery but not sure what it means:

"Invented the cause when paws was indented
faceless robberies, the flame my mind been in"


Blinded

second verse:

"She stay alone at home, the city screams
and never did she park the seed without proper means"

2nd line is what i don't catch...could maybe be "part the sea"?



Up There Beyond

Kevlaar:
"Chime bells, my seeds is healthy
felt self-medication infect me, envy is evil"

"My fetus sees through the future,
graspin memories, through a mirror's outreachin"





Bronze on Verbal Joust (CRAZY song)

"Doorknob to closets where the gun case orbits
For rent pays your peace, i keep my heartbeat at pace
for weak-hearted that sleep hardest i still gotta aim
when the thrill is gone, ya pillage-torn seein' my glow
I'm so patient I could watch a tree die and re-grow
while my seeds scatter, one in the hole"

it's a pretty damn impressive bunch of lines right here...i understand most of this i think but the first and last lines..(altho i think the last line is just sayin i got a bun in the oven, a pregnant wife, baby on the way)





i'm gonna look at Bronze entire verse on Goblins later on...


(DirtY Harry just punched some ho in the face!!! HAHA!)

the silencer
09-30-2009, 10:07 PM
bump

Kevlaar 7
10-01-2009, 04:31 AM
PEACE! ima come thru soon! Phat shout 2 silencer for ressurecting this joint, i 4got about it my gee! I'm on my way to cali later on today so ima come thru and elaborate on shit when i get a chance my people!! PEACE! 100

the silencer
10-01-2009, 02:41 PM
PEACE! ima come thru soon! Phat shout 2 silencer for ressurecting this joint, i 4got about it my gee! I'm on my way to cali later on today so ima come thru and elaborate on shit when i get a chance my people!! PEACE! 100
i'm gonna come to one of those shows up in Ventura...can't make it this Saturday but I'll come to the next one..

NinjaSpiT
10-03-2009, 02:30 AM
PEACE! ima come thru soon! Phat shout 2 silencer for ressurecting this joint, i 4got about it my gee! I'm on my way to cali later on today so ima come thru and elaborate on shit when i get a chance my people!! PEACE! 100

Peace.Dope Mixtape you just put out.Tarantula Webs is that shit! Where in cali are you performing?

NinjaSpiT
10-03-2009, 02:41 AM
any questions and comments about lyrics to songs from the Wisemen Approaching album can be posted here....

ill start off with a few...

trying to figure the meaning off this line in Blinded...

"when my backbone gone say peace to the ammo, i love you.."


from Goblins:
"somethin strange in the courtroom, veins (?) is my fortune, im from a place where the avenues are scoarchin.."

and my favorite verse on the whole album, Bronze's on Wisemen Approaching (the track) has a few things in there that i wasnt able to decipher....ill type the full thing...

"i blow nicely like Ron Isley, word dice we roll, mouse n men behold
ice grill on my 86 slice the pie slightly
flee or fight me, end up floatin up Bightlee (???)
i scope n deliver rhyme program charismo
drown u in a sea of nickels sip a 5th slow..
crash around the main bench straight no chaser
silencer on the micstand skope no laser
my bitches stay in heels tied up around the calf sheels (???)
live in movie reels, exquisite ruby hills
dance (??) in field of dreams dirty as Bronson

head filled wit more schemes than snakes in the garden
i tippy-toe like samurai slit a throat on standby
interview in fields wit landmines perform live durin outbreaks
ebola virus outline the mic-case
paint scripts flee (??) faster than swimmin from sharks..
im known for spinnin darts towards ya melanin in dark
stoppin in at #1 without a shotgun
maybe platinum or just Bronze im out 1"

i coodnt interpret some stuff on there and alot of just flew over my head but i friggin love it....

Bronze, if u could clear some shit up to make it clearer it would be GREATLY appreciated...

I always thought it was :

"Rhyme pro -Gran TURISMO"

"Im known for spinning darts-towards your melon in the dark"

I always thought melanin or melon would fit either way in the ladder line though

Kevlaar 7
10-03-2009, 03:57 AM
PEACE! word up Silencer hope to see you there fam! Ninjaspit we rocking in Ventura, Ca at the Karma Lounge 281 Main St.! oct. 3rd we rocking with Planet Asia and Chi King, Oct. 10th we rocking with Chi king, Rah Digga and Gdep, and oct. 17th we rockin with Chi King and Onyx! all at the same spot! PEACE! 100

NinjaSpiT
10-03-2009, 04:13 AM
Fo sho,Ima be at one of those shows for shure,PA rocks ill shows.props.