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Ghost In The 'Lac
03-14-2007, 07:36 PM
So why did Christains God wait until only 2,000 years ago in the Humans timeline to reveal himself and pass his message on to the people thru Jesus Christ?

WHAT WAS HE WAITING FOR?

Didnt he think the all the people of the world before Jesus was "born" deserved to be living by his rules and guidelines?

Esquire
03-14-2007, 08:13 PM
Your asking a question that is possibly unanswerable.

THE W
03-14-2007, 08:19 PM
God has always been there.

V4D3R
03-14-2007, 08:44 PM
So they say...

The Christ soul is not what a lot of people think or know.

Picture the Genesis days where the Sons of God came down to earth.

These Sons of God are souls - they saw the life here that God created already. They descended into the bodies of ape-men.

Amilius was the first:

Amilius was the first expression of Divine Mind (the logos); the Christ soul before his incarnation into a physical body (corresponding to Genesis 1)

Amilius living in the lost civilization of Atlantis who redirected the process of human evolution by creating a more appropriate physical form for the influx of souls to incarnate into rather than incarnating into the ape-like human form which souls had entangled themselves

Adam was the second(Adam consists of a group of souls):

Adam was the first "son of man" and "son of God"; the Christ soul after his incarnation into a physical body (corresponding to Genesis 2).

Enoch:

Enoch was the antideluvian patriarch who journeyed to heaven to receive mysteries.

Hermes:

Hermes, also known as Thoth, was the architect of the Great Pyramid and the sage who began the Hermetic tradition.

Melchizedek:

Melchizedek was the mystical high priest and king of Salem (ancient Jerusalem).


Joseph:

Joseph was the son of Jacob who became the Prince of Egypt.

Joshua:

Joshua was the warrior who led the Israelites into the Promised Land.

Asaph:

Asaph was the music director and seer who served under David and Solomon.

Jeshua:

Jeshua was the high priest who helped organize the return from exile and the rebuilding of the temple (as recounted in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah) and who is claimed to have compiled and translated the books of the Bible

Zend:

Zend, also spelled "Zen", "Zan", "Sen", or "San," was the father of Zoroaster who wrote the Zend Avesta and founded the religion Zoroastrianism

Jesus:

Jesus was the man who attained complete "at-one-ment" as the divine-human unity known as "the Christ"

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The Christ soul will reincarnate again to be the Messiah foretold by the Hebrew prophets in order to usher in the so-called "Throne of David" (i.e., the kingdom of heaven) on Earth.


The "fall of man" was an event recorded symbolically in Genesis where souls from heaven first descended to the earth plane to began incarnating as humans. The first wave of souls to incarnate (known in the Bible as "the sons of men") became entrapped in the earth plane accidentally, through their misuse of free will. These events gave rise to legends of the "fall of the angels" and to mythical beasts of the kind described in J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings."

Adam (as the Christ soul) joined his twin soul Eve in allowing himself to be seduced by materiality himself. This is symbolized by his acceptance of "the forbidden fruit." The other sons of God followed his lead and incarnated, and as a result were moved to express their materiality by interbreeding with the "daughters of men" (Genesis 6:1-2) who were the homo sapiens that evolved from ape-men according to Darwin's theory of evolution.
The second wave of incarnations (known in the Bible as "the sons of God") consisted of those souls led by Amilius - the Christ soul - who voluntarily became entrapped in order to assist the first wave of trapped souls. They accomplished this by steering the process of physical evolution in a way that created more appropriate physical forms for these souls. Their banishment from the Garden of Eden was actually a great blessing because death and reincarnation are designed to draw our attention away from materiality and the flesh, and toward our true spiritual nature.

Melchizedek was the "king of Salem" and "priest of the most high God" who shares bread and wine with Abraham in Genesis 14:18-20. Melchizedek is also mentioned both in the Dead Sea Scrolls (I I Q Melch) and the Nag Hammadi codices (NEC IX 1), where he appears as a cosmic angelic figure similar to the risen Christ. Hebrews 5:10 refers to Jesus "a high priest after the order of Melchizedek."

Enoch is described in several pseudepigraphal writings as well as some Kabbalistic writings. The modern Bible has a brief mention of Enoch:
"And Enoch walked with God: and he was not, for God took him." (Gen. 5:18-24)
The Books of Enoch describe the fall of the angels into materiality - the beginning of the incarnation of souls from heaven. It also describes Enoch's several heavenly journeys where it is revealed to him the future up until the time of the Messiah. Enoch is also taught traditional topics as angelology and the divine throne-chariot. The Ethiopic Enoch introduces Enoch to a messianic figure referred to as "the Son of Man." The Hebrew scripture known as "Apocalypse of Enoch" describes Enoch transfigured into an angel named Metatron. In the New Testament, Enoch is mentioned in Hebrews 11:5 and Jude 14-15, with the latter passage apparently quoting from the pseudepigaphal Enochian literature.

Jesus was an example of what God wants mankind wants to be like. He took the Christ soul into a vessel(body) that is weak to materiality and showed us the way.

"The law of God made manifest [that] He becomes the law by manifesting same before man; and thus - as man, even as you becomes one with the Father"


"I and my Father are one. Then they took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shown you from my Father; for which of these do you stone me? They answered him, saying, For a good work we stone you not; but for blasphemy; and because that you, being a man, make yourself God. Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law: I said 'you are gods?" - John 10:30-34, Jesus quoting Psalm 82:6 to defend his teaching that God dwells within all human beings.

RAMESH
03-15-2007, 12:04 PM
if you think the cristians wated long the jewish people are still waiting

Urban_Journalz
03-15-2007, 01:16 PM
God has always been there.

Word. It's just that simple.

Dirty Knowledge
03-18-2007, 02:08 PM
People had to wait 2,000 years for the portion of the brain called "CREATIVITY" to form before "RELIGION" of course could be introduced..

hellbound
03-18-2007, 06:17 PM
if you think the cristians wated long the jewish people are still waiting


real talk but hahaha

the silencer
03-18-2007, 06:39 PM
So why did Christains God wait until only 2,000 years ago in the Humans timeline to reveal himself and pass his message on to the people thru Jesus Christ?

WHAT WAS HE WAITING FOR?

Didnt he think the all the people of the world before Jesus was "born" deserved to be living by his rules and guidelines?
i think the main problem with the question is that you are under the misunderstanding that Jesus was sent here so that ppl could "live under his rules and guidelines"....

Jesus was just a dude preachin the same message that had been being taught to humanity many times before him and after him and he was killed for it....

God always has been and always will be, brother...

supremecharma
03-19-2007, 03:08 AM
God always has been and always will be, brother...

damn straight.

crass
03-19-2007, 04:16 AM
So why did Christains God wait until only 2,000 years ago in the Humans timeline to reveal himself and pass his message on to the people thru Jesus Christ?

WHAT WAS HE WAITING FOR?

Didnt he think the all the people of the world before Jesus was "born" deserved to be living by his rules and guidelines?

cuz it's not true, silly.

Longbongcilvaringz
03-19-2007, 09:59 AM
People had to wait 2,000 years for the portion of the brain called "CREATIVITY" to form before "RELIGION" of course could be introduced..



haha, yeah about right.



cellar door is probably he best username on this site.

Longbongcilvaringz
03-19-2007, 10:01 AM
i think the main problem with the question is that you are under the misunderstanding that Jesus was sent here so that ppl could "live under his rules and guidelines"....

Jesus was just a dude preachin the same message that had been being taught to humanity many times before him and after him and he was killed for it....

God always has been and always will be, brother...



what do you mean, religion is all about following guidelines and rules....jesus was a representative of these... depending on what religion your from.

Urban_Journalz
03-19-2007, 03:38 PM
The same God who gave David (pbuh) The Psalms, Moses (pbuh) The Torah and Muhammad (pbuh) The Qur'an, gave Jesus (pbuh) The Gospel.

The only true religion from the beginning has always been the worship of The One God. Without partners or associates. All of the Messengers brought the same basic rules. It was only after these messengers passed away, that people began doing things according to their lusts and desires. Re-writing scriptures and making sects, etc.

God wasn't waiting for anything, because Jesus (pbuh) wasn't the first messenger. Just among the Children of Israel, there was Moses, Aaron, Solomon, David, Jacob, etc....the only thing He was waiting for between the departure of Moses and the arrival of Jesus, was that maybe we'd get it right and stop bein' stupid.

Olive Oil Goombah
03-19-2007, 03:49 PM
Good stuff. People who doubt God should talk to leading physicists, guys like Carl Sagan RIP, or Hawking who say, there has to be a God to explain our being. The vastness of our percieved universe, to microscopic world we can't even see...it all balances and thus we exist.