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Black Man
03-20-2007, 12:49 PM
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Black Man
03-20-2007, 01:28 PM
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WARPATH
03-20-2007, 02:01 PM
In these pictures you have a bunch of ingnorant people but.......

"They" do not all think "that way" about "you."

White man, you just stereo-typed yourself with the title of this thread. Good going.^O^

Black Man
03-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Who Said They "all" Think That Way? The Dog Ass You Eat Is Messing With Your Eye Sight.

WARPATH
03-20-2007, 05:47 PM
Then what was the point in making this thread?

Your implying that all white people are ignorant, your trying to get the minorities on here to talk shit about whites, and get the whites upset and fire back.

We all know there are ignorant people out in the world. You just want people to argue. Your causing a race war online. Your foul.

And by the comment you just made, it's evident that your a racist even against those that you believe are "Gods."

You want people to call you a God? Show us traits like a God.

Peace.

LHX
03-20-2007, 05:50 PM
damn Slip

somebody is on point today


i was considering deleting this thread, but you did it one better





who said you cant take something bad and turn it good?

Black Man
03-20-2007, 05:55 PM
Then what was the point in making this thread?


if you don't know, then this thread is not for you.

Your implying that all white people are ignorant

i didn't imply anything about any group.

your trying to get the minorities on here to talk shit about whites

ummm, whites are the minorities brother.

and get the whites upset and fire back.

only those who think in that vein would get upset and fire back, like yourself.

You just want people to argue

argue over what?

Your causing a race war online. Your foul.

a race war? what races are involved in this race war of yours? the only thing that is foul is.....

And by the comment you just made, it's evident that your a racist even against those that you believe are "Gods."

you don't don't what racist is. stop using words you don't know how to use.

You want people to call you a God? Show us traits like a God.

i don't want people to call me a god. i do know that the blackman is god/allah.

EAGLE EYE
03-20-2007, 05:55 PM
"They" as in "They" in the picture would get robbed if any of them crossed my path today. They have been handed everything in life.


and Im not discussing race at all, just these trust-fund baby brats.

Black Man
03-20-2007, 05:58 PM
"They" as in "They" in the picture would get robbed if any of them crossed my path today. They have been handed everything in life.


and Im not discussing race at all, just these trust-fund baby brats.

i can dig it! now how would you go about doing that? catch em in a dark alley? run up in their house? me, i would like you to run up on them, smack the colligen out their lips and then tap them pockets!

LHX
03-20-2007, 05:59 PM
its funny that those white youth in that picture are/were oppressed by the same people/system that oppresses everybody else

getting angry at white youth is about as pointless as getting angry at a computer for not doing what you want it to do

Gawd
03-20-2007, 05:59 PM
as far as the white girls acting like hood kids....it wasnt a far cry.

LHX
03-20-2007, 06:01 PM
children act according to the way they are raised until they have a opportunity to go against it


nobody in that picture has had the opportunity to see outside of the perspective they were raised in


thus the question: how can you be angry at them?

Gawd
03-20-2007, 06:15 PM
yeah cuz they have never seen pictures or music videos?

Gawd
03-20-2007, 06:17 PM
black man is the biggest idiot on the internet.

LHX
03-20-2007, 06:20 PM
black man is the biggest idiot on the internet.
not the biggest

he makes good posts at times

Gawd
03-20-2007, 06:24 PM
no, he is the biggest. making good posts is one thing. being able to reply , answer questions and have something to say other than using 2 word lines to dodge issues and questions is different.

dood is brain dead at best.

Black Man
03-20-2007, 06:29 PM
U Mean Like How You Do It

Gawd
03-20-2007, 06:37 PM
i dont dodge questions homie. i answer them plain as day.

you should try it.

you know.....by not answering a question with a question.

how unproffesional

RAMESH
03-20-2007, 06:47 PM
blackman is a good guy i like hearing his opinion on things

Black Man
03-20-2007, 06:49 PM
thanks ramesh, kinds words always warms the soul.

Gawd
03-20-2007, 08:04 PM
you two should kiss and be racist together.

Prolifical ENG
03-20-2007, 08:26 PM
Those pictures are very "colorful".

Ultimate Fist
03-20-2007, 11:15 PM
I don't see what's wrong with the ones dressed rap style. Those bitches probably think shit's cool. The diagram with the apes and shit (i think) is like 100 years old. I've seen it in history books. The ones with Confederate flags are obviously fucked up.

Are we gonna say Flavor Flav's making fun of white people if he wears a viking helmet? Nah! It's just people playing.

maestro wooz
03-20-2007, 11:49 PM
^^true

and it's not white people bojangling dressed like this in the first place

supremecharma
03-21-2007, 02:41 AM
how unproffesional


u funny fucker.

RAMESH
03-21-2007, 03:38 AM
you two should kiss and be racist together.
don't hate on what you don't understand

RAMESH
03-21-2007, 03:54 AM
don't hate on what you don't understand

you aply all the time that i am racist i am a little at times but you over look the positive things i say & only focus on the negative you are a racist of the worst kind

Sexy Jasper
03-21-2007, 08:30 AM
Great thread!

Someone should move my awesome pictures thread to the KTL.

LHX
03-21-2007, 08:30 AM
Great thread!

Someone should move my awesome pictures thread to the KTL.

i tried but admin wouldnt let me

Sexy Jasper
03-21-2007, 08:39 AM
I got to speak with Tom on this. Shame really, cause it's of such educational value. Plus it involves no reading, no reading at all!

Reading is for homosexuals and smart people.

LHX
03-21-2007, 08:48 AM
where i come from, getting visual is habitual

WARPATH
03-21-2007, 10:54 AM
if you don't know, then this thread is not for you.

I know what your trying to do. You group some pictures together of white americans. Your implying that this group holding up confederate flags are in the same vein as the kids playing dress up. Then you threw in a monkey picture to imply that "they" think people of african decent are monkeys.



i didn't imply anything about any group.


You implied that these white americans think negitivley about black americans. The fact that you used the picture of the white kids playing dress up and lumped them up with these other pictures shows and proves- that you think in the same vein as these white kids playing dress up.


ummm, whites are the minorities brother.


Not in America.


only those who think in that vein would get upset and fire back, like yourself.


Hold up a mirror.


argue over what?


You tell me.


a race war? what races are involved in this race war of yours? the only thing that is foul is.....



This comment you made. Your foul. Again it shows and proves how much prejiduce and racism control your character. Your just as bad as a Neo-Nazi.


The Dog Ass You Eat Is Messing With Your Eye Sight.


Again, you tell me, what was the ultimate goal of this thread White Man?


you don't don't what racist is. stop using words you don't know how to use.


And this is your response to being exposed?


i don't want people to call me a god. i do know that the blackman is god/allah.


Then know your role young padawan.

DJMethods
03-21-2007, 11:22 AM
Dont get mad at white girls dressing up and having fun.. Its all they're doing, not one of them thinks they're gangsta, just messing around for fun - Which is what hip-hop is meant to be. Be mad at them for being tools, yeah, but not for the way they dress...

How do we know they're trust fund babies as well? Maybe they got a job and worked? White people are born poor too, ya know.. Just cause they end up with money doesn't make them a "trust fund baby", makes them dedicated hard workers, just like anyone else irregardless of race who ends up with money.

You can't hold the "white man" of today responsible for what people of the same race did generations earlier. The only thing linking them is race, and just because people are of the same race it doesn't mean that they all think the exact same things - Although some do.

Racism is like a snowball. White man did something wrong, black man responds, so white man responds, so black man responds, so white man responds, and so on as it just grows larger and larger. Same shit happens here in Australia, a lot of Aboriginals (Native Australians) hate every white person in Australia because of the "Stolen Generation", when there would be 5 people in the whole country who agreed with it.

Visionz
03-21-2007, 11:25 AM
Who is "They", who is "You"??

Black Man
03-28-2007, 11:09 PM
Another Celebration Of Black Culture?

UConn Law Students.....future lawyers, judges, and prosecutors


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EAGLE EYE
03-28-2007, 11:14 PM
The only way to stop this bull shit is for predominately black colleges to have theme parties where they impersonate white culture stereotypes.


Im not trying to get all sympathetic and stuff. Im just sayin' u gotta fight fire with fire sometimes.

Olive Oil Goombah
03-28-2007, 11:26 PM
LMAO....imitation is the sincerest form of flattery Black Man.

Scáth Bán
03-28-2007, 11:41 PM
Black people need slap the shit outta these people. Seriously, get on that shit. I hate it when fuckin white people try to "act black", its embarassing.

EAGLE EYE
03-28-2007, 11:50 PM
Black people need slap the shit outta these people. Seriously, get on that shit. I hate it when fuckin white people try to "act black", its embarassing.

These people mocking.

But what their mocking is what they see from tv, etc.

theafghan
03-29-2007, 02:21 AM
The only way to stop this bull shit is for predominately black colleges to have theme parties where they impersonate white culture stereotypes.


Im not trying to get all sympathetic and stuff. Im just sayin' u gotta fight fire with fire sometimes.

the white kids in the picture hold parties where they make fun of white culture stereotypes too. like theyll dress up like they in stupid 80s dress (w/the exercise socks that go up to the knees...), they dress up like richard simmons, john basedow, etc etc. they makin fun of whatevers funny in culture and t.v. and yea a lot of the bling bling shit on t.v. that they get that image from deserves to be made fun of. this black man guy seems to be tryina instigate shit by placin these kind of pics w/pics of white supremacists and phrenology which has been dead for about a century.

and another thing, the thread starter seems to make the assumption that "hip hop culture" (which i guess is whats bein made fun of) belongs to this minority group ('you", or specifically black people since he put the pic of the negro vs. white skulls up too). lets get it straight that hip hop is not a black or a white or a mexican or a etc thing. born out of oppression hip hop is an american culture (no disrespect to its international flavors...i just mean it started in the bronx). just a side note

Ultimate Fist
03-29-2007, 02:24 AM
Don't call black people a minority or you'll put Black Man into a freak out.

theafghan
03-29-2007, 02:27 AM
hip hop, punk rock, and reggea

all 3 started workin hand in hand as a movement in 70s/80s as a response to the establishment and the fuckedupness of everythin around em.

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 03:13 AM
blackman never said nothing bad all he did was put pictures up & let you decide what you think about it & he is getting dissrespected for it
all he is showing you is the truth no need to angry with him or insult him

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 03:42 AM
and another thing, the thread starter seems to make the assumption that "hip hop culture" (which i guess is whats bein made fun of) belongs to this minority group ('you", or specifically black people since he put the pic of the negro vs. white skulls up too). lets get it straight that hip hop is not a black or a white or a mexican or a etc thing. born out of oppression hip hop is an american culture (no disrespect to its international flavors...i just mean it started in the bronx). just a side note[/quote]
hip hop is american black culture the american black man is hip hops daddy anyone can be part of hip hop but never forget where it really comes from

theafghan
03-29-2007, 03:58 AM
actually when blackman put those pictures up together, he DID say they were together. he said, "this is what they think about you: picture picture picture"
it's pretty straightforward.

and also, hip hop is just american culture, puerto ricans played a huge role in blowin it up. who are the beastie boys and all the other white punk rockers who turned to the movement? t.v. makes you think hip hop is "american black culture" but its bigger than that

theafghan
03-29-2007, 03:59 AM
blackman never said nothing bad all he did was put pictures up & let you decide what you think about it & he is getting dissrespected for it
all he is showing you is the truth no need to angry with him or insult him

i mean sayin he's showin us "the truth" is like sayin fox news is "fair and balanced"

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 04:23 AM
he showed you pictures & left it for you to decide
it's what you make of it
what i see is clowns others see racists what do you see?

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 04:24 AM
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/7904/2859/220/gse_multipart23981.jpg

i see a man getting paid

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 04:36 AM
pic 1. if i wasn't a married man i see 1 or 2 chicks there that i would of fucked & i promise you i would of got it right ra got all the confidence

pic2. i see some ugly dogs

pic3. i see a white gang that's ready for war but me & my crew will run through them easily

pic4. i'm an orangatang when the chains come off

i know what these pictures could mean but that's what i see

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 04:38 AM
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i see some educated white kids acting like kunts not too serius though it's a dress up party i hear cats in the states like dressing up

Visionz
03-29-2007, 05:11 AM
actually when blackman put those pictures up together, he DID say they were together. he said, "this is what they think about you: picture picture picture"
it's pretty straightforward.

and also, hip hop is just american culture, puerto ricans played a huge role in blowin it up. who are the beastie boys and all the other white punk rockers who turned to the movement? t.v. makes you think hip hop is "american black culture" but its bigger than thattrue indeed, to add to that Russel Simmons co-founded Def Jam with Rick Rubin as well.

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 05:56 AM
he said this is what they think about you he didn't say ra, stas & jamal this is what they think about you
he left it for you to decide what you think of it
rap started with the black youth it is theirs doesn't mean the whole world can't join in because music is universal but you have to pay respect where respect is due when it comes to hip hop it's those black kids from the bronx

Sexy Jasper
03-29-2007, 07:43 AM
Why are these people thinking this about me? They don't know me. ;(

theafghan
03-29-2007, 10:36 AM
as far as the pictures, he did exactly what the media does. picks and chooses which pics to put up and then puts them next to extreme examples (phrenology and white supremacists). then he straight out told us what to think about them in the title of this thread. i dont get where the ambiguity argument is coming from. he TOLD US, "this is what they think about you"

and on the other topic, hip hop was started by POOR kids from the bronx. black kids yes, but also puerto rican bboys, dj's., graff artists...pay respect where respect is due right? anyway man you need to listen to Immortal Technique--The Poverty of Philosophy. this shit is not about race, its about how wealth is divided up

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 11:00 AM
i think it's best that blackman aswers the question one man can only tell what he thinks but can't really aswer for the next man
as for rap it started with black kids the rest just came in
the biggest influence on rap was the jamaicans who was doing toasting at the time very simular to rap

RAMESH
03-29-2007, 11:10 AM
When Did Reggae Become Rap
By D. George (http://www.jamaicans.com/cgi-bin/moxiebin/bm_tools.cgi?author=1;a=1376;s=14_4;site=1)

Saturday, April 24, 2004
When did Jamaican dance hall reggae become rap? Are we not putting the carriage before the horse? Contrary to what many may say Rap can trace its origins directly from Jamaican Dub Reggae & Jamaican style toasting. It is a fact that isn’t talked about by many in the main stream media but many of the early pioneers (DJ Herc) and newer rappers (Busta Rhymes, Notorious B.I.G and Redman) in the American rap era are Jamaican immigrants or children of Jamaican immigrants in NY. One does not have to look very far to see the relationship between the two as we now see rap and dancehall reggae merging. This would not be possible if there were not the similarities as the child is now beginning to return to the parent. Jamaican dejaying came out of a form a rhyming and talking over music called “Toasting”. Rapping began as a variation on the toasting
Jamaican sound systems (Mobile Discotheques) have been toasting since the early 50’s, 60’s and 70's. Jamaican toasting was developed at blues dances which were free dances mainly in Jamaican ghettos where sound systems battled each other playing American R& B, Jamaican Ska and Rock Steady. Popular dance venues included Foresters Hall, Twary Crescent (Duke, Sir Cox Sound, King Edwards, Mighty Bell), & Central Road. Surprisingly some of the earliest signs of toasting can be found in songs by folk historian and entertainer the Honorable Dr. Louise Bennett-Coverley fondly known to many as "Miss Lou".
The sound systems had a Deejay whose primary responsibility was to play the records and then there was the MC who was responsible for setting the mood with the crowd by “toasting”. Record producers used to leave one side of a new 45 with just the instruments or “rhythm” which was called “the version of the song”. These versions are where many of MCs of the sound systems in Jamaica would do a rhyme or toast to entertain the audience. MC’s would battle each other (just like rappers did) to see who could do the best rhyme or toast. They would cover topics ranging from what people were wearing at the dance, to culture, politics and commentary. Like the early beginning of its predecessor rap; most of it was good natured and humorous. The rhyme started with phrases like 'wuk it up man’.
Ewart 'U-Roy' Beckford, King Sporty, Dennis Alcapone, Scotty, Prince Buster, Sir Coxsone, Duke Reid are all early leaders in toasting in Jamaica. They would be followed later by deejays like Big Youth, Jah Stitch and I Roy. They were followed by Yellowman, Charlie Chaplin and General Echo.
Duke Reid was one of Jamaica’s most popular early DJ’s. He was known to wear outrageous costumes. His most popular costume was a dark cloak where he hid his cowboy holster and guns. You could also hear “toasting” on the radio during 1958- 1959 on the Treasure Isles time Radio Program with King Sporty.
Many of the artists involved in the birth of rap in New York were either Jamaican or have Jamaican parentage. The seeds were planted for rap music when Jamaican Clive 'Kool Herc’ Campbell migrated to the Bronx NY 1967 at age 13. He put together a sound system patterned off what he saw growing up in Jamaica and started to draw crowds to his dances. Influenced by the Jamaican style of toasting he used this technique on American R&B, funk, disco, soul and funk. During the song’s 30-40 sec instrumental break he would “toast”. He realized he needed a way to extend the instrumental break so he started to experiment with 2 turntables. He was the first to use two turntables techniques to extend the break by playing the same record. This allowed more 'toasting' which like its Jamaican counterpart encouraged people to dance. He pioneered “breaks” in songs. He recruited dancers as a part of his MC dance team. These dancers would be featured mainly during the breaks and would later be called break-dancers. Campbell was just one of the many Jamaicans who influence rap directly.

Black Man
03-29-2007, 07:10 PM
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Sexy Jasper
03-29-2007, 07:18 PM
http://www.jahsonic.com/Minstrel.jpg

oLd_KaiNry
03-29-2007, 07:27 PM
dont u love it when white ppl hate on you ?

i know u do

gives u a reason to whine

lets see now how many black ppl make fun of white ppl

this shit goes on on both sides of the fences so stfu !

Frontal Lobotomy
03-29-2007, 07:29 PM
I dunno, I'd say white people have had a fair bit more practise in making fun of black people. That minstrel thing was pretty damn funny though, them jews are a hoot.

Professor Poopsnagle
03-29-2007, 08:03 PM
dont be sad balck man, before my mind got poisoned from rap culture i thought this about you:

http://www.supanet.com/media/00/12/29/CS-cosby-cast_430.jpg

http://winny18.sport24.com/images/mn/1135981826.jpg

http://www.usc.edu/dept/pubrel/trojan_family/autumn99/Wolper/KuntaKinte.jpg

http://www.knowmoremedia.com/uploads/Michael%20Jordan%20-%20Slam%20Dunk%20%2788.jpg

http://www.onlinewahn.de/jackson2.jpg

theafghan
03-29-2007, 09:50 PM
When Did Reggae Become Rap
By D. George (http://www.jamaicans.com/cgi-bin/moxiebin/bm_tools.cgi?author=1;a=1376;s=14_4;site=1)

Saturday, April 24, 2004
When did Jamaican dance hall reggae become rap? Are we not putting the carriage before the horse? Contrary to what many may say Rap can trace its origins directly from Jamaican Dub Reggae & Jamaican style toasting. It is a fact that isn’t talked about by many in the main stream media but many of the early pioneers (DJ Herc) and newer rappers (Busta Rhymes, Notorious B.I.G and Redman) in the American rap era are Jamaican immigrants or children of Jamaican immigrants in NY. One does not have to look very far to see the relationship between the two as we now see rap and dancehall reggae merging. This would not be possible if there were not the similarities as the child is now beginning to return to the parent. Jamaican dejaying came out of a form a rhyming and talking over music called “Toasting”. Rapping began as a variation on the toasting
Jamaican sound systems (Mobile Discotheques) have been toasting since the early 50’s, 60’s and 70's. Jamaican toasting was developed at blues dances which were free dances mainly in Jamaican ghettos where sound systems battled each other playing American R& B, Jamaican Ska and Rock Steady. Popular dance venues included Foresters Hall, Twary Crescent (Duke, Sir Cox Sound, King Edwards, Mighty Bell), & Central Road. Surprisingly some of the earliest signs of toasting can be found in songs by folk historian and entertainer the Honorable Dr. Louise Bennett-Coverley fondly known to many as "Miss Lou".
The sound systems had a Deejay whose primary responsibility was to play the records and then there was the MC who was responsible for setting the mood with the crowd by “toasting”. Record producers used to leave one side of a new 45 with just the instruments or “rhythm” which was called “the version of the song”. These versions are where many of MCs of the sound systems in Jamaica would do a rhyme or toast to entertain the audience. MC’s would battle each other (just like rappers did) to see who could do the best rhyme or toast. They would cover topics ranging from what people were wearing at the dance, to culture, politics and commentary. Like the early beginning of its predecessor rap; most of it was good natured and humorous. The rhyme started with phrases like 'wuk it up man’.
Ewart 'U-Roy' Beckford, King Sporty, Dennis Alcapone, Scotty, Prince Buster, Sir Coxsone, Duke Reid are all early leaders in toasting in Jamaica. They would be followed later by deejays like Big Youth, Jah Stitch and I Roy. They were followed by Yellowman, Charlie Chaplin and General Echo.
Duke Reid was one of Jamaica’s most popular early DJ’s. He was known to wear outrageous costumes. His most popular costume was a dark cloak where he hid his cowboy holster and guns. You could also hear “toasting” on the radio during 1958- 1959 on the Treasure Isles time Radio Program with King Sporty.
Many of the artists involved in the birth of rap in New York were either Jamaican or have Jamaican parentage. The seeds were planted for rap music when Jamaican Clive 'Kool Herc’ Campbell migrated to the Bronx NY 1967 at age 13. He put together a sound system patterned off what he saw growing up in Jamaica and started to draw crowds to his dances. Influenced by the Jamaican style of toasting he used this technique on American R&B, funk, disco, soul and funk. During the song’s 30-40 sec instrumental break he would “toast”. He realized he needed a way to extend the instrumental break so he started to experiment with 2 turntables. He was the first to use two turntables techniques to extend the break by playing the same record. This allowed more 'toasting' which like its Jamaican counterpart encouraged people to dance. He pioneered “breaks” in songs. He recruited dancers as a part of his MC dance team. These dancers would be featured mainly during the breaks and would later be called break-dancers. Campbell was just one of the many Jamaicans who influence rap directly.



hey, that's a nice ass article...i like it. yea categorizing hip hop as this or that can always have different viewpoints and the debate can go on forever. i still wanna put the emphasis on poverty tho...
i can still say tho that rock and roll is(/was?) more of a "black culture" than hip hop is

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 01:35 AM
it can't go on forever it's facts you can watch any rap documentry based on facts
rap was invented in 1974 dj herc was the pioneer
toasting has been around since the 50's
rap comes from toastin the only real diffrence that stands out is the accent
you can ask any rap legend who is the god father of rap & the aswer is kool herc

http://www.hiphop-network.com/articles/djarticles/kooldjherc_1.jpg

herc gave toasting the american twist he brought in the 2 turntables,breakdancers, he mixed r&b,jazz, blues
he been trying to make it take off since 1973 but only in 74 did it take off
rap culture was born
up till today he is still living in the bronx in an apartment
through him people have been made millionaires

theafghan
03-30-2007, 02:32 AM
rap is not hip hop culture...its part of it

tekunique
03-30-2007, 02:41 AM
LOL @ the crazy general statement without elaboration and on top of that @ the thread starter's username.... blackman googlin stereotypical white ppl pics, you caught the vapors by even taking time to search such pics. judges dont even judge shit ultimately, you aint authority all your first post express is assumption and provokes unnecessary concusions from others.

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 03:27 AM
yo blackman when these cats hate on you don't take it personal you are one of the few cats on this site that i'm really fond of

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 03:31 AM
rap is not hip hop culture...its part of it
hip hop culture is started by the blackman no other race think what you want but that is the truth

tekunique
03-30-2007, 03:32 AM
yo blackman when these cats hate on you don't take it personal you are one of the few cats on this site that i'm really fond of
if that was aimed at me at all, hate is when someone displays dislikeness and mocks another without proper reasoning. ive explained why i disagree with the original post. and how can you take it personal if youve never met in person ? doesnt make sense.

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 03:51 AM
if that was aimed at me at all, hate is when someone displays dislikeness and mocks another without proper reasoning. ive explained why i disagree with the original post. and how can you take it personal if youve never met in person ? doesnt make sense.
that was aimed at all of you that dissrespect blackman & me being very fond of him is personal

Sexy Jasper
03-30-2007, 04:53 AM
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To the both of you

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 05:06 AM
you know very well what i think of you jasper i told you i don't want you to give quotes coments anything that relates to me
i will never except you & this is why so please keep my name out of your head

Sexy Jasper
03-30-2007, 05:23 AM
You must've thought I was talking about you. I didn't say I was referring to you...

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RAMESH
03-30-2007, 05:47 AM
fuckin coward

DJMethods
03-30-2007, 06:12 AM
hip hop culture is started by the blackman no other race think what you want but that is the truth

And? whats your point? Thanks for your contribution, Captain Obvious.

But even hip-hop culture has had white men in it from the start, Mr Freeze? He started in a time of racial hate and prejiduce, but is one of the most respect original cats. Why? Because he had maaaaaaad skills, and hip-hop isnt about what colour you are, it's about how good you are at an element.

Those pictures the white guys are taking the piss out of everyone who dresses like that - And there are FUCKLOADS of white people who dress like that. In ORIGINAL hip-hop culture -which YOU brought up- no one dressed like that, so don't go claiming it as hip-hop. Thats gangsta shit, gangsta shit isnt hip-hop, hip-hop started off as thing to ESCAPE the gangs.

It's funny seeing people dress like that... they look like fuckwits, even funnier when people spend thousands of dollars on it and are poor as fuck.

Sexy Jasper
03-30-2007, 06:38 AM
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RAMESH
03-30-2007, 07:28 AM
And? whats your point? Thanks for your contribution, Captain Obvious.

But even hip-hop culture has had white men in it from the start, Mr Freeze? He started in a time of racial hate and prejiduce, but is one of the most respect original cats. Why? Because he had maaaaaaad skills, and hip-hop isnt about what colour you are, it's about how good you are at an element.

Those pictures the white guys are taking the piss out of everyone who dresses like that - And there are FUCKLOADS of white people who dress like that. In ORIGINAL hip-hop culture -which YOU brought up- no one dressed like that, so don't go claiming it as hip-hop. Thats gangsta shit, gangsta shit isnt hip-hop, hip-hop started off as thing to ESCAPE the gangs.

It's funny seeing people dress like that... they look like fuckwits, even funnier when people spend thousands of dollars on it and are poor as fuck.
being the minority even in place like a wu-tang site no matter what i say there will always be a shit load of white cats that dissagree
it's like this hip hop is black culture i will be completly out numbered here but there is no way in fuckin hell that i will ever agree that white people played a big part in hip hop culture it's a straight up lie no matter what any of you think or say hip hip is black culture
the biggest contribution the white man played in hip hop was to profit from it like how he does on evrything else

Sexy Jasper
03-30-2007, 07:29 AM
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V4D3R
03-30-2007, 07:38 AM
This thread is fucked. I know some white people that have more culture then most - and class. It's beyond color in these days idiots.

It's basically - are you a good guy...or bad?

Black Man
03-30-2007, 11:14 AM
yo blackman when these cats hate on you don't take it personal you are one of the few cats on this site that i'm really fond of

Hate....they hated on Marcus Garvey.....they hated on Martin Luther King Jr.....they hated on Elijah Muhammad.....they hated on Allah.....they hated on Khalid Muhammad.....they hated on Nelson Mandella......they hated on Denmark Vessey......they hated on the Tuskegee Airmen.....they hate on black youth, black women, and black men.....they hated on the Huey Newton and Bobby Seale.....they hated on Nat Turner......they hated on Harriet Tubman.....they hated on black folk who could read......Emmet Till.....they hated on all those black men during the Tuskegee Syphillis Experiment that started in 1932 and didn't end until 1972.....they hated on every indeginous person on the planet!!!

Now Ramesh, do you really think I care about the hate that's thrown my way? I enjoy it. It lets me know what I'm saying and doing is right!

Don't you know I get private messages sent to me with threats? Do you think I care? Nope! The masses of people here who are active try and throw insults, want to call me racist, lock my threads, hurl names, racial slurs and all that jazz. Bother me? Nope. All of this is done because I'm a threat, I'm a problem. Can they handle Blackman? :no: Do they love Blackman too much and don't love themselves enough? :yes:

YES THE BLACKMAN IS GOD. YES THE BLACK WOMAN IS THE EARTH. YES THE BABIES ARE THE GREATEST!

Ramesh, you do the knowledge before you speak, I like and respect that.

What happens when people play around? Something effed up happens. In one breath, people here want to be taken serious, in the next breath they'll say lighten up it's not that serious, this is entertainment for me they say. I know who's who and what's what. I know why people are here, and everybody here isn't here for the same reasons.

Keep in mind....here in america "black" people been through some changes in regards to their identity. In the beginning original people were referred to as negro, n*ggers, slave, or boy.....oh yeah they were also called colored. Time goes by, we got some people with a little more knowledge of who these indigenous people were. "Black" people then began to refer to themselves as BLACK. Once this Black thing began the white folk were feeling a lil uneasy about this Black Thang......so what happened next? The definition/identity of Black was to be destroyed. 1-40 understanding cipher degree. That's when those BLACK MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN began to be called other names. Afro-american, african-american, then this eventually graduated into what we have today....no identity just multiculturism. Racism at it's best. I understand that being BLACK is a threat to people. Having knowledge of self, is a threat to people. The Blackman who is God is a threat to people. Them negroes, them multiculturilist, those "americans", those people who say we're all the same or we're just humans, they're not a threat. They're docile and they already follow the "program."

Like the Gods say, there's the 85%, the 10%, and the 5%. It's seen here!

The Blackman is God!!!

V4D3R
03-30-2007, 11:19 AM
The problem with religion - that people don't seem to realise- is thats all a part of the "Big Lie" Shaytan/Satan/Serpents laid out to have you all divided and conquered.

Keep up the the "True Devils" work BLACK MAN.

And the doctrine involved with NGE is stressing this need for division...thats the key word - division.

Black Man
03-30-2007, 11:23 AM
being the minority even in place like a wu-tang site no matter what i say there will always be a shit load of white cats that dissagree
it's like this hip hop is black culture i will be completly out numbered here but there is no way in fuckin hell that i will ever agree that white people played a big part in hip hop culture it's a straight up lie no matter what any of you think or say hip hip is black culture
the biggest contribution the white man played in hip hop was to profit from it like how he does on evrything else

Hiphop comes from black people, just like rock, jazz, blues, etc. it's real simple.

White people didn't play a big part in the development of hiphop. Somebody mentioned beastie boys and rick ruben. Influential, but not the Father of this thing we call hiphop.

The masses of misguided white folk (some do understand the rules and regulations and they know how to act at home and abroad within hiphop) when it comes to hiphop....they're (sub)culture vultures.

They get mad when we preserve things for ourselves....we're able to create our own, while they go to the ends of the world to take what we own.

Black Man
03-30-2007, 11:42 AM
WARNER BROS. CARTOONS

Isn't Warner Bros. the same company with that damn frog?

"Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfs"
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THIS IS WHAT THEY THINK OF YOU :yes:

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DJMethods
03-30-2007, 12:04 PM
You fucks are seriously deluded... no offence, really, but some of you have a better grip on your cock then you do reality.

being the minority even in place like a wu-tang site no matter what i say there will always be a shit load of white cats that dissagree
it's like this hip hop is black culture i will be completly out numbered here but there is no way in fuckin hell that i will ever agree that white people played a big part in hip hop culture it's a straight up lie no matter what any of you think or say hip hip is black culture
the biggest contribution the white man played in hip hop was to profit from it like how he does on evrything else

What the fuck? I disagree with more white people then "blacks"... seriously man, there are more Americans then Australians, so fuck off - I'M the minority. When i talk to someone, i aint checking what colour they are cause to me you're ALL yellow, just like i am. It's what you say that I judge.

Stop playing the "I'm a minority" card, I don't give a fuck what race you are quite honestly. You could be from Neptune and if you talk shit I'll pull you up on it, it's not a "black vs white" thing, some people CHOSE to make it into that.

I never said white man played a big part in hip-hop... but white people are keeping it real, while dumb fucks from all races are saying "2pac's the greatest ever" without real knowledge on hip-hop. That was the start of the DOWNFALL of hip-hop, not the rise.. and white and black corporate fuckwits are to blame.

Black Man
03-30-2007, 12:32 PM
This was presented by Sha-King Allah

ATTENTION: If this "mock" logohttp://bp0.blogger.com/_Rmg4c4xTyt8/RgteonJp-mI/AAAAAAAAAF4/_1fpT-JPA4o/s400/sambo.jpg (http://bp0.blogger.com/_Rmg4c4xTyt8/RgteonJp-mI/AAAAAAAAAF4/_1fpT-JPA4o/s1600-h/sambo.jpg) angers you or makes you feel some sort of way. It should.

This is something we should keep in mind every time you 'co-sign' on the exploitation of Original people, our brothers and sisters, by supporting teams with 'Indigenous' mascots. So be wise with what you are projecting or making born when you adorn yourselves with these images and team names. Keep in mind today's mathematics, wisdom born.

It is disrespectful, demeaning and unacceptable.

Remember they are your brothers and sisters.

Proper Education Always Creates Errors

DJMethods
03-30-2007, 12:35 PM
Black man, what is your point? Not having a go... just seems like you wanna stir up racial bullshit through a few dumb, ignorant peoples comments. Only proving that you're ignorant.

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 02:23 PM
You fucks are seriously deluded... no offence, really, but some of you have a better grip on your cock then you do reality.



What the fuck? I disagree with more white people then "blacks"... seriously man, there are more Americans then Australians, so fuck off - I'M the minority. When i talk to someone, i aint checking what colour they are cause to me you're ALL yellow, just like i am. It's what you say that I judge.

Stop playing the "I'm a minority" card, I don't give a fuck what race you are quite honestly. You could be from Neptune and if you talk shit I'll pull you up on it, it's not a "black vs white" thing, some people CHOSE to make it into that.

I never said white man played a big part in hip-hop... but white people are keeping it real, while dumb fucks from all races are saying "2pac's the greatest ever" without real knowledge on hip-hop. That was the start of the DOWNFALL of hip-hop, not the rise.. and white and black corporate fuckwits are to blame.
if you had to speak to me like this in person i would hit your head of your shoulders because i got alot to loose another coloured kid would of just shot you
in future don't quote me & don't speak to me again maybe it's ok for you to speak to your aborijaneese people like this but it's not ok with africans

DJMethods
03-30-2007, 02:28 PM
if you had to speak to me like this in person i would hit your head of your shoulders because i got alot to loose another coloured kid would of just shot you
in future don't quote me & don't speak to me again maybe it's ok for you to speak to your aborijaneese people like this but it's not ok with africans

You're such a sook...whing whinge whinge. What did I say that was disrespectful to you?

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 02:29 PM
blackman it's true alot of people want to quite you they want you banned they don't like what you saying & the claiming you white is it true?

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 02:31 PM
You're such a sook...whing whinge whinge. What did I say that was disrespectful to you?
like i said it's the 2nd time i'm having a problem with you i don't want a 3rd better go our seprate ways this site doesn't need 2 cats spoiling the shit for evryone else

DJMethods
03-30-2007, 02:33 PM
like i said it's the 2nd time i'm having a problem with you i don't want a 3rd better go our seprate ways this site doesn't need 2 cats spoiling the shit for evryone else

Like you said? You never said that....

Again, what did I say that was disrespectful? you say shit like id get shot and you'd hit me, then play the "innocent" card... stupid.

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 03:23 PM
i don't like the way you speak to me & there is nothing i can do about it over the net so in future i won't quote you & i expect the same from you

Visionz
03-30-2007, 04:38 PM
^Two people from different backgrounds on the road to never talking to each other again.That's division. looks like this thread has accomplished what Black Man seems so focused on. GO HEAD AND KEEP ON CREATING THAT SEPERATION. YOU PLAY RIGHT INTO THEIR HANDS WITH THAT SHIT. On the real its disgusting. NGE beliefs are blasphemy against the One True Creator. That's not hate, that's the truth.


And Ramesh, this dude really does have white skin. I'm not saying that with malice, I'm saying that cuz I've read him say it. That means one of two things, either he's white or a liar, and apparently you can't trust either these days.



The Ultimate fate of the human race is that we unify as one, anything that is an agent against that is not of God, in that you can trust. peace

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 06:02 PM
it's not blackmans fault that i don't want to speak to another man & it's not about devision it's about respect if a man can't respect me i would rather not speak to him again & it's the 2nd time i'm telling this to him in that methodman kicks white guy thread & there won't be a 3rd

if blackman has got white skin i still respect him but he must curve his anger because it is making alot of you upset & he should respect those around him but if he is black then it's understandable why he feels this way & he got full right to express his feelings without you cats ripping him off
alot of black youth take their anger out on people rather on the internet then out on the streets doing shit
if you don't like somthing he is saying speak to him like a man not a clown
if he doesn't agree with you just let him be he's a grown man he can decide for himself

Scáth Bán
03-30-2007, 06:22 PM
if blackman has got white skin i still respect him

Quoted.

Sexy Jasper
03-30-2007, 06:29 PM
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Black Man
03-30-2007, 07:02 PM
Two people from different backgrounds on the road to never talking to each other again.That's division.

That's not division, that's keeping the peace.

looks like this thread has accomplished what Black Man seems so focused on

Please tell, what am I focused on?

GO HEAD AND KEEP ON CREATING THAT SEPERATION. YOU PLAY RIGHT INTO THEIR HANDS WITH THAT SHIT.

Seperation....is that a bad thing? Is that really running into "their" hands? Seperation I'm with Malik Shabazz (malcolm X) on this one or am I?

On the real its disgusting. NGE beliefs are blasphemy against the One True Creator. That's not hate, that's the truth.

The Blackman is God, The Black Woman is the Earth, and the Babies are the Greatest!!!! THAT'S NOT HATE, THAT'S THE TRUTH!!!

I'm curious, what are NGE beliefs?

And Ramesh, this dude really does have white skin.

Do you know me?

either he's white or a liar, and apparently you can't trust either these days.

You can't trust white people these days huh? That's so racist, thats a statement leading and causing division.

The Ultimate fate of the human race is that we unify as one, anything that is an agent against that is not of God, in that you can trust.

You're an agent against God.

The BLACKMAN IS GOD, THE BLACK WOMAN IS THE EARTH, AND THE BABIES ARE THE GREATEST!!!

Sexy Jasper
03-30-2007, 07:09 PM
The CHINK MAN IS GOD, THE CHINK WOMAN IS THE EARTH, AND THE BABIES ARE THE GREATEST!!!

fixed.

Alesco
03-30-2007, 07:24 PM
That's not division, that's keeping the peace.



Please tell, what am I focused on?



Seperation....is that a bad thing? Is that really running into "their" hands? Seperation I'm with Malik Shabazz (malcolm X) on this one or am I?



The Blackman is God, The Black Woman is the Earth, and the Babies are the Greatest!!!! THAT'S NOT HATE, THAT'S THE TRUTH!!!

I'm curious, what are NGE beliefs?



Do you know me?



You can't trust white people these days huh? That's so racist, thats a statement leading and causing division.



You're an agent against God.

The BLACKMAN IS GOD, THE BLACK WOMAN IS THE EARTH, AND THE BABIES ARE THE GREATEST!!!



I know what you are focused on sun. I fuckin know.

I dont like it.... But.... is that your fault... NO it is not


wat is your aim on this site KID. I call you KID, cuz you act like a fuckin KID
amean. you wanna get folks on here to fall out of touch with each other.
Thats not correct sun. OK, you are white, or black... we dont fuckin care wat coulour you be sun. JUST BE FUCKIN YOU..

NOW

You speek a lot of truth KID, but how you gonna make a fuckin chainge if
you tryin to separate each other.. DONT log off Black man, Tell us wat you
want.. Speek to us KID

Black Man
03-30-2007, 07:26 PM
Am I the piece with magnetic or what? :mmmyah:

Where is that one true creator at the some people talk about? :looking: What you don't know? :nonono: Still looking? :yessad: Have fun....

Is this thread about white people? :nonono:

Are those pics disrespectful? :mmmyah:

What do you have to say to those people who constantly try and spit blood on your name? :fucku: What do you think about that answer? :clap:

The Blackman is God/Allah, the Black woman is the Earth, and the Babies are what? THE GREATEST!!!!!!

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 07:27 PM
none of us is an agent against god we just a bunch of young cats from diffrent parts of the world with our own ways & customs eric is a good guy so is blackman
i think what went wrong is that eric thought blackman was responsable for my actions but each man walks his own path
if a man tells you to jump in the fire you won't do that same as a man can't tell you what to do
so in that way he was wrong to acuse blackman gave him so blackman gave him a piece of his mind
i would be angry if somone acused me for somthing another man did anyone would be

Alesco
03-30-2007, 07:29 PM
Fuck that Ramesh

Alesco
03-30-2007, 07:31 PM
You like this fuckin guy man. Wats up wi that????

He is fuckin up you mind sun.. I dont care if he is black

He is trya fuck up your thoughts

Alesco
03-30-2007, 07:33 PM
Fuck you, Ya so Called Black man

And Fuck you with ya 60 Seconds

tekunique
03-30-2007, 07:42 PM
you ridin the see saw alone...

Sexy Jasper
03-30-2007, 07:43 PM
http://www.mechanicalbanksonline.com/images/1/J4042.JPG

I have one of those.

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 07:44 PM
listen to yourself you attacking the man brutaly i'm 27 years old & i'm quite a succesful bussiness man & i honestly don't see blackman doing anything wrong except if you call standing up for yourself a crime
i'm not the one swearing ofcourse i somtimes swear when i talk but not directly like what you doing with him
if you don't like his threads leave him alone don't upset yourself like this
it's free world just let him do his thing as long as he doesn't swear at you or go on with you like how you go on with him
do what i do tell him the problem you got with him try & sought it out if it doesn't work go your own ways

V4D3R
03-30-2007, 07:57 PM
Where you live Ramesh- is the most rascist country in the wrold from what I know. What you are displaying here in these froums is the anomosity accumulated throughout the years. It's time for a change.
You must accept the whites and blacks as brothers. The only enemy is the enemy of peace and prosperity. If you cannot see that this kind of bullshit is causing division- then I must say that your deaf dumb and blind - and playing into this shit.

NOW- if anybody on this forum is Coin-tel pro - it's this fuccin BLACK MAN.
Your starting racial tension for no given reason except to DIVIDE & CONQUER. An ancient serpent measure to divide mankind.

Peep this - I posted this shit ON THESE FORUMS ALREADY- AND YOUR STILL FUCKIN TALKING ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT. NOBODY IS TAKING THE TRUTH AS FACT.

HEED THE WORDS OF WHAT IT TRULY IS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fN8GmiW0dk


Beautiful words my brother- but they don't hear you though, for they fall on deaf ears.

Some of you I"m truly beginning to believe- really don't have your names written in the Book of Life.

Scáth Bán
03-30-2007, 08:04 PM
It's time for a change. You must accept the whites and blacks as brothers. The only enemy is the enemy of peace and prosperity. If you cannot see that this kind of bullshit is causing division- then I must say that your deaf dumb and blind - and playing into this shit.

Knowledge.

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 08:05 PM
i tell you what from today i will not be racist anymore provided that no one aggrevates me on purpose if you can do that then i will stop being racist because the only white people that i really keep in contact with is you guys except for walter & we don't really chill
i also think blackman is cool & i like to see his views on things

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:07 PM
Mutha fucka has logged off...

Know this ya fuckin CUNT, You will NEVER devide me and my brothers.

I know you sun... You will NEVER devide us ya fuckin devider.......


Know that, ya mutha fucka

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:09 PM
Never

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:11 PM
This mutha fucka has got me MAD

Fuck you ya little prick

RAMESH
03-30-2007, 08:11 PM
you don't expect the man to be here 24hrs
alot of you get excited for nothing

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:12 PM
You have RAMESH

But you dont got us ya little fuck

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:21 PM
I get exited becuz I fuckin CARE my sun

I care if there is people who do not Care for each other..

I know who i be

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:26 PM
i tell you what from today i will not be racist anymore provided that no one aggrevates me on purpose if you can do that then i will stop being racist because the only white people that i really keep in contact with is you guys except for walter & we don't really chill
i also think blackman is cool & i like to see his views on things




You Are in contact with the white people who play for south Africa sun.


Nah mean kid

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:28 PM
I dont want you to HATE white folks Ramesh

Just be you mutha fucka

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:36 PM
Mutha Fucka has Nothing to Say

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:37 PM
You , Black Man, Have nothing to say ma sun

Com on KID.... Tell us

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:45 PM
You have nothing


Lol at wat your plan is my son.

You dont know nothing man.

Alesco
03-30-2007, 08:48 PM
Now


I hear ya mAN

yOU DONT HEAR WAT YOU WANT, But thats cool man

Hear wat you FEEL my brother

theafghan
03-30-2007, 09:35 PM
so......to bring it back to the history of hip hop culture.....im not tryin to hijack or steal anythin from black people (and no im not white if u think i am ramesh, but should it matter anyway?)
im sayin when u go back to when hip hop was really startin to develop as a culture, between its 4 elements, mc'ing, breakdancin, graffiti, and dj'in....even from the begining and when it was bein spread around new york, there were more than just black players. and im not sayin its either black or white. its puerto rican b-boy crews and dj's. the point is that the thing all the diff ethnic groups had in common is that they were POOR. they all came together to help develope this shit as a culture.
hip hop was born out of oppression. poverty.



and on another note, man people really need to calm down. none of this should be aimed at a person's personal qualities. we arent here to make each other feel bad or ourselves feel bad, mad, etc.
and people shouldn't feel disrespected or hated on by any of this

we're here to exchange ideas and thats what we should stick to.
just cuz ramesh doesnt agree with me im not gonna say "fuck you ramesh blah blah blah" or just cuz i didnt like what blackman posted im NOT gonna call him a snake and say he's a horrible human being.

im just gonna make my points and if they and others read it with an open mind then this internet shit can be constructive. otherwise it's a waste of time.

LORD ZERO
03-31-2007, 12:47 AM
Another Celebration Of Black Culture?

UConn Law Students.....future lawyers, judges, and prosecutors


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0125072uconn1.jpg (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0125072uconn2.html)
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SOMEONE SHANK THESE PPL PAST RECOGNITION

RAMESH
03-31-2007, 03:25 AM
you cats want talk shit about me i'll tell you some facts about me
you insult my country
what blackman showed was people what you showed me is a nigger box no one says shit
you want to swear & insult me you don't know what it's like to be me
did you know that my mother commited suicide because she couldn't survive in the apartheid world she couldn't gave up she didn't have faith in me have you got any idea how somthing like that can fuck a kid up you don't know my pain & you will never know my anger that's just a piece of the pain that i walk around with
ra is a angry hurt man with no mercy that's what i was as i'm getting older i got a wife & a son i started healing but i still got along way to go
if you don't like what i'm saying just ignore me if you tell me not to bother you then i won't
we will never be the same you will never know african pain i don't want unity i want to be associated with blackman leave us alone

EAGLE EYE
03-31-2007, 03:29 AM
Thread was a laughing stock since post 1.



I will verbally destroy any one in 25 words or less.




I am Robby and I am drunk.

Sexy Jasper
03-31-2007, 05:29 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/skinsio/1175318890362.jpg

froth
03-31-2007, 10:33 AM
hahaha funny thread

Taylor_Made
03-31-2007, 06:55 PM
LMFAO@ Black people being the only people that understand what Blackman is saying. The white cats in here just get offended. You white folks in here may listen to the wu and think that you aren't racist and blah blah blah...that not the point.


"I LOVE WUTANG, THE EPITOME OF BLACK MUSIC. BUT THOSE NIGGERS NEED TO STOP GETTING SO MAD AT WHITES ARGHHH. THOSE DAMN MINORITIES!! DAMN THEM AND THEIR POOR COMMUNITIES AND BAD SCHOOL SYSTEMS!!!WHY DON"T THEY JUST STOP ALL THE CRACK AND GUNS FROM GETTING INTO THEIR COMMUNITY!!"


Lol think a little deeper white folks...You'll get it at some point. Ask the white folks in the gulf who got fucked by hurricane Katrina and were locked in the superdome like it was a prison camp for five days.

Prolifical ENG
03-31-2007, 07:27 PM
LMFAO@ Black people being the only people that understand what Blackman is saying. The white cats in here just get offended. You white folks in here may listen to the wu and think that you aren't racist and blah blah blah...that not the point.

You are misinformed of which race each person is that replied in this thread. Its not that simple as you described...lol

This thread is just a bunch of classic examples of implications that lead to be false and begging the question (really raising the question).

Was this thread in KTL really just a bunch of photos for everyone to pity?

Taylor_Made
03-31-2007, 09:09 PM
You are misinformed of which race each person is that replied in this thread. Its not that simple as you described...lol

This thread is just a bunch of classic examples of implications that lead to be false and begging the question (really raising the question).

Was this thread in KTL really just a bunch of photos for everyone to pity?

I feel what your saying. My whole point was that You shouldn't be offended by Blackman's comments if you dig a little deeper into it. I don't see black folks being offended by Blackman's threads(If they are, please show and correct me).

Prolifical ENG
03-31-2007, 09:50 PM
Perhaps its a false implication that (white) people are "offended" by reading their responses. It could be some are...and maybe not at all..or it could be a combination of things. I haven't really see a solid defense in this thread that suggests someone is being offended....but I guess it can be implied

But I guess your main point is that this thread received more attention that it needs and suggests offense. I see it as more of a borderline troll topic and why it got a large amount of replies and they type of replies. Its only borderline since it has its points, if it was any further it would be closed for being a troll topic.

"I don't see black folks being offended by Blackman's threads"

I noticed you used the word "black" and pluralized "thread" which suggests a trend. That's another reason why this is a borderline troll topic. I can't argue your point since you used the term "being offended". If you said instead "disagrees with" then it is possible to find those threads.

theafghan
03-31-2007, 10:13 PM
LMFAO@ Black people being the only people that understand what Blackman is saying. The white cats in here just get offended. You white folks in here may listen to the wu and think that you aren't racist and blah blah blah...that not the point.


"I LOVE WUTANG, THE EPITOME OF BLACK MUSIC. BUT THOSE NIGGERS NEED TO STOP GETTING SO MAD AT WHITES ARGHHH. THOSE DAMN MINORITIES!! DAMN THEM AND THEIR POOR COMMUNITIES AND BAD SCHOOL SYSTEMS!!!WHY DON"T THEY JUST STOP ALL THE CRACK AND GUNS FROM GETTING INTO THEIR COMMUNITY!!"


Lol think a little deeper white folks...You'll get it at some point. Ask the white folks in the gulf who got fucked by hurricane Katrina and were locked in the superdome like it was a prison camp for five days.


i dont like what the thread starter did because its just like after 9/11 happened, the media showed some pictures of arabs celebrating in the streets throwin candy around and told us, "this is what THEY think of YOU"

and not that it matters but for the record im not white

WARPATH
03-31-2007, 10:20 PM
Black Man's threads are like herpes, and KTL is having another outbreak.

It's all about suppression.

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 05:59 AM
Suffering
The government often suggests that only white people are worried about crime.
"They should get out if they don't like it," one minister said recently.

Every day, more than 300 murders and violent attacks take place in South Africa. Together with Iraq and Colombia, it is one of the three most dangerous countries on earth.


Gangsterism In The Western Cape
By Edwin Herrendorfer
Gangsterism in South Africa is extremely rife and problematic, particularly in the Western Cape. It is an age-old problem that has affected families as well as whole communities. Entire towns and cities have, at one stage or another, had to deal with the scourge that is gangsterism. Innocent men, women and children have – knowingly and unknowingly – become entangled with gangsters. Most have suffered dearly as a result. Many still bear the scars of their involvement; both physical and emotional scars. Countless others have lost their lives, usually in a savage manner and sometimes for something of little or no significance. Those that have tried to get out, have either been hunted and killed, or are now fugitives, living in fear of being found by their fellow gang members. South African prisons are full of men, women and youths who were arrested and incarcerated because of the crimes they committed while belonging to a gang.The common perception is that gangsterism is a so-called Coloured phenomenon.
According to studies by the SAPS’s Operation Slasher, which was launched in 2001, there are about 150 gangs in the Western Cape. The total number of gang members at that time stood at about 120,000. It could be much higher today.

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 07:09 AM
http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0030.jpg
She is being operated on. But just take a look at the hideous wounds to her head in the next few photos</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0031.jpg
Look at her black eye.</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0032.jpg
On the operating table. Just look at that black eye.</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0033.jpg
On the operating table. From this angle her wounds look hideous.</B>

The Ones Who Did Not Make It...
http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0001.jpg
A murdered white woman</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0002.jpg
This image and the ones which follow show the grievous injuries suffered by a white farmer. God alone knows what he went through before he was killed, as you will see.</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0004.jpg
Close up, look at the red and black on his chest. It is as if he has either been badly beaten or partially burned.</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0005.jpg
From this angle the burn marks on his chest stand out clearly.</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0006.jpg
Closer up it does indeed appear as if he has been set on fire.</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0009.jpg
We see a rope being removed from his neck</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0007.jpg
The burn marks on his face and hair are clearly visible. As I remember, from news reports they first murdered the couple and then tried to set fire to the corpse of the man.</B>

The next set of images is of the murder of an old woman. As can be seen by the dress and the surroundings, some of these people are quite poor.
http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0008.jpg
Blood everywhere... even on the white panel of the red door...</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0011.jpg
Lots of blood. I am not sure what the black "liquid" is. Is it dried blood perhaps?</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0010.jpg
Here her body is being turned over...</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0012.jpg
Truly gruesome. A man's face is partly blown away...</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0013.jpg
This man was clearly set on fire at some point. </B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0014.jpg

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0015.jpg
This baby was set on fire... I know there was one instance of a baby being wrapped in newspaper and being set on fire. This might be it...</B>

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0016.jpg
This man was hung in his bathroom. It seems as if they used a belt.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0017.jpg
It looks like this young woman took a gunshot directly to her temple.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0018.jpg
This school boy was hung. Take note, he is still wearing his school uniform.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0023.jpg
Here he is from another angle.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0019.jpg
It looks as if there is blood on the bed to the left of this corpse

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0022.jpg
A murdered woman

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0024.jpg
It looks as if this man/boy was tied up before he was murdered.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0025.jpg
This murdered man seems to be lying underneath a tyre.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0026.jpg
A murdered woman

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0028.jpg
Note the cuts to this man's wrists. He is still in his pyjamas. He was probably murdered at night.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0027.jpg
A close-up shot shows the cuts to his wrists and a horrible wound in his neck.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0034.jpg
Postmortem. Just look at the horrible wounds on this old woman.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0035.jpg
Postmortem. From another angle.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0036.jpg
This body may have been buried and was now dug up.

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0037.jpg
Bruises can be seen on this person's face.


http://www.africancrisis.org/images/farm0029.jpg

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/hb43.jpg HB43.JPG

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/hb44.jpg HB44.JPG

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/HB83.jpg HB83.JPG

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/hb65.jpg HB65.JPG

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/hb67.jpg HB67.JPG

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/hb69.jpg HB69.JPG

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/DuncanCook.jpg DUNCANCOOK

http://www.africancrisis.org/images/hb72.jpg HB72.

V4D3R
04-02-2007, 07:34 AM
Any group of people that commits this- will have to pay thru Karma eventually- law of the Universe- you get what you give.

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 07:51 AM
Any group of people that commits this- will have to pay thru Karma eventually- law of the Universe- you get what you give.
what goes around comes around

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 08:04 AM
In the Cape Town metropole and southern Cape and Karoo regions, where figures from offices dealing with sexual assault were available, the sex abuse of children under 13 years was on the increase, said Dawes.

According to police figures, 23 453, or 43 percent, of the 54 926 rapes and the same proportion of the indecent assaults reported in 2005/2006 were of children.

Experts say the true number is even higher.

can you guese what colour most of these kids are?

SA is 'a breeding ground for violent men'

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 08:37 AM
I dont want you to HATE white folks Ramesh

Just be you mutha fucka
alesco your heart is as cold as mine mutha fucka only diffrence is you got no balls i see straight through you
you a snake

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 08:58 AM
Black Man's threads are like herpes, and KTL is having another outbreak.

It's all about suppression.
people know what to expect when they go into a blackman thread
you a good guy soldier & i understand why blackman gets to you but let him be some of us is very fond of him

DJMethods
04-02-2007, 09:10 AM
I don't get the point Black man and RAMESH are trying to make.

Yes, the world has violence... just discovering that?

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 10:37 AM
http://www.wired.com/news/images/full/coup_full.jpg

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 10:52 AM
the white wu-tang

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/worst-album-covers/4-1.jpg (http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/)

Sexy Jasper
04-02-2007, 11:07 AM
http://www.thehardmans.com/images/NinjaBelle1.jpg

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 11:19 AM
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/worst-album-covers/5-1.jpg (http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/)

Sexy Jasper
04-02-2007, 11:51 AM
http://www.un.int/drcongo/war/torture2.gif

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 12:39 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/04/AQ00100.jpg/225px-AQ00100.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AQ00100.jpg)

Freedom Fighter

Sexy Jasper
04-02-2007, 12:41 PM
http://www.stolenchildhood.net/images/congo_kids_congolese_children_children_of_congo.jp g

J.T.S.
04-02-2007, 12:54 PM
LOL at those pics of the law students! I'm black and i don't dress like that!!

Sexy Jasper
04-02-2007, 12:54 PM
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/642/damniggers5hu.jpg

RAMESH
04-02-2007, 01:51 PM
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/351434.jpg

music made by white people for white people

Sexy Jasper
04-02-2007, 02:10 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000654OVK.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Black Man
04-04-2007, 06:39 PM
THIS IS WHAT THEY DO TO YOUhttp://faculty.washington.edu/qtaylor/images/event_omaha_courthouse_lynching.jpg

Alesco
04-04-2007, 06:42 PM
Dont let the DEVIL get you my peoples

Its what they want

Black Man
04-04-2007, 06:43 PM
Dont let the DEVIL get you my peoples

Its what they want

That'll never happen....

Alesco
04-04-2007, 07:01 PM
Ohhh, The devil is ALIVE ma sun

I like you Black man. I really do, but you dont care about that.

Wat are you tryin to do ??? Do you want peoples to fall out ?

I am only asking you my brother. Tell me

Alesco
04-04-2007, 07:04 PM
You know, Its funny man. A lot of folks CLAIM to know wat power music has on the mind of a human being. But most peoples dont know nothing about MUSIC. Music IS our best FORM of comunicaition pal. Dont ever forget that.
Music and words go hand in hand my brother

Black Man
04-05-2007, 10:15 AM
Ohhh, The devil is ALIVE ma sun

I like you Black man. I really do, but you dont care about that.

Wat are you tryin to do ??? Do you want peoples to fall out ?

I am only asking you my brother. Tell me

Yes, I know the devil is ALIVE.

Thanks for letting me know what I care about and what I don't.

Do I want people to fall out? What do you mean exactly?

Alcryt
04-05-2007, 11:38 AM
THIS IS WHAT THEY DO TO YOU

Man that pictures sick, even worse that the people around are all cheerful. :no:

Black Man
04-05-2007, 12:58 PM
Man that pictures sick, even worse that the people around are all cheerful. :no:

yeah, and it happened right outside of a court house less than a hundred years ago....I got relatives that were alive when that happened.

Black Man
04-06-2007, 06:41 PM
http://www.blackwallstreet.freeservers.com/jesse%20washington.gif

Dirty Knowledge
04-10-2007, 05:16 PM
I don't see all black people like that. Just the ones who get money for selling themselves out on MTV and BET.

RAMESH
04-11-2007, 07:21 AM
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/351434.jpg

music made by white people for white people

why was my picture removed?

Edgar Erebus
04-11-2007, 08:15 AM
I'm white, does that mean I'm a racist, KKK member, Negro killer?

Sexy Jasper
04-11-2007, 08:54 AM
I'm white, does that mean I'm a racist, KKK member, Negro killer?Yes, every white person is somehow related to the people who were in the KKK and lynched blacks.

It doesn't matter, some people will never learn.

RAMESH
04-11-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm white, does that mean I'm a racist, KKK member, Negro killer?


do feel that your race is superior to other races?
do you go out of your way to be horrible to people of diffrent race?
do you feel irritated being surrounded by people from diffrent race?

if your answer is yes to any of those 3 questions then yes you are racist
if your answer is no then you not

Black Man
04-11-2007, 11:27 AM
/\/\ what do you consider "horrible" things to peopel?

RAMESH
04-11-2007, 11:32 AM
yo blackman what's up, how you doing?
insulting,humiliating,mean, anything that you wouldn't want done to yourself

Black Man
04-11-2007, 01:32 PM
yo blackman what's up, how you doing?
insulting,humiliating,mean, anything that you wouldn't want done to yourself

i'm good as long as you're good. what you're saying sounds about right. everything you mentioned will make a person feel like less than a person.

how can a man be a man when he's made to feel like a boy?