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04-02-2007, 07:40 PM
Please leave a review of any latest reads.

Also post a link to the books if possible.

Carry On...

the silencer
04-02-2007, 08:10 PM
ok heres 2 that i've just recently finished reading...

The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell

he shows how all the myths in humanity's history (everything from Native American stories to Old Testamant stuff to Greek stories, Viking stories, Persian....everything) are all basically just different interpretations of the same thing...humanity's attempt to basically bring the eternal into the world of time...

he breaks down the main overall structure and foundation of these stories...really great stuff that will change the way u see things..Campbell is a fuckin brilliant dude

Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra

another mind-blowing work right here...

basically explains modern physics and shows how closely the new discoveries are resembling the thoughts and philosophies of Eastern mysticism (Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, etc)....for instance when u start to get down to the subatomic world u see that there really are no "building blocks" that make up matter...protons, electrons, neutrons and stuff arent (contrary to what was previously thought) just solid little balls but are instead concentrated waves of energy...i'm sure im not explaining it as clearly as the book does but it just shows that everything we perceive is really just the mind trying to find patterns in things....the universe is not as simple as Newtonian physics once imagined...

i'm also reading right now Capra's Turning Point which is another great one explaining the reason behind all our troubles right now (health, oil problems, war, all that shit) are because of an imbalance in the world...i wanna try and elaborate but i'm not thinking too clearly right now...but i definitely recommend checking that shit out..

maestro wooz
04-02-2007, 08:38 PM
havent really read anything new lately, but i have been rereading parts of deliverance and on the road. Fucking classics. Bout to pick up my copy of sea wolf and do the same for that book.

04-02-2007, 08:52 PM
:( give props were props is do ben this was my idea dont take the only good one away from me:(

edit your forst post to say "brought to you by The Great Dane"

04-02-2007, 09:07 PM
Joseph Campbell influenced Lucas for the making of Darth Vader.

The greatest hero IMO

Ultimate Fist
04-02-2007, 10:45 PM
Rational Mysticism- John Horgan


Horgan interviews famous mystics (including philosopher Ken Wilbur, Joseph Campbell's contemporary Huston Smith, and LSD researcher Stan Grof) and several leading scientists to study how science can help explain the mystical experiences people encounter in the world's religions. This book covered a lot of interesting issues- whether there is one universal mystical experience described in different terms or if each school has a different experience, why is there evil, and what is the meaning of life. Horgan is very skeptical of the claims made by the people he interviews, which is refreshing for this kind of book- people who study mysticism tend to be way too New Agey and biased. One interesting part was at the end when Horgan explored the issue of whether we would want to live in a world where everyone is enlightened. Highly recommended.

04-06-2007, 11:44 AM
yall should check out 'The Journey to the East" by Herman Hesse. its only like 120 pages but is a fantastic little story that is brimming with wisdom. check it out

04-06-2007, 04:49 PM
1. Is Bill Cosby Right Or Has The Black Middle Class Lost It's Mind-author is a black guy Michael Eric Dyson
2. He Talk Like A White Boy-author is black actor Joseph Phillips who was in Strictly Business movie with Halle Berry, Tommy Davidson, Samuel Jackson. He also played on The Cosby Show as Lisa Bonet's husband.
3. 40 Million Dollar Slaves-author is a black guy William Holden. The book is about pro black athletes being a slave to their sports teams because they don't own any teams and they don't have jobs with teams once their careers are over.
4. Enough-author is a black guy Juan Williams. The book is about the black community and the racial stereotypes we are confronted with everyday.

04-06-2007, 06:49 PM
I read this way back, but it is one of my favorite books.

Charles Dickens - Great Expectations

04-07-2007, 03:30 AM

possibly the best book about DJs. touches ALL different DJs not focused or biased towards one style. loads of interviews and quotes from living legends which they reached out personally for this book. great read for anyone who respects the art of the DJ and/or true hip hop enthusiasts.. remember, the FIRST element of hip hop was DJing.

lord patch
04-12-2007, 02:53 PM
>>REVIEW: book--jim crow moves north

Published by H-South@h-net.msu.edu (October, 2006)

Davison M. Douglas. _Jim Crow Moves North: The Battle over Northern
School Desegregation, 1865-1954_. New York: Cambridge University Press,
2005. x + 334 pp. Notes, index. $23.99 (cloth), ISBN 978-0-521-60783-4.

Reviewed for H-South by Shannon Frystak, Department of
History, West Virginia University.

Reassessing Northern Racism

Many northerners live under the false assumption that their region of
the country has historically been more enlightened than their southern
counterparts. Even when the city of Boston erupted over the bussing
issue in the post-civil rights era 1970s, Americans were shocked to
witness what many believed anomalous behavior for a state that had bred
such good liberals as the Kennedy clan. However, as Davison M. Douglas's
new book, _Jim Crow Moves North: The Battle over Northern School
Segregation, 1865-1954_ illustrates, this perception is wholly
inaccurate and needs reevaluation.

Racial segregation in public schools is a hot topic today, as
sociologists and political scientists analyze what went wrong in the
aftermath of the Supreme Court's 1954 decision in _Brown v. Board of
Education_--a decision that was supposed to equalize the educational
experience for all children. Scholars, policy makers, and state and
local officials have discovered that not only is there more racial
segregation in education in the United States today than existed in
pre-Brown America, but, as Douglas instructs in his last chapter, more
segregation exists in the North than in the South. This book is not only
timely, but imperative if we are to understand how the U.S. educational
system arrived at this place.

As part of the Cambridge Historical Studies in American Law and Society,
_Jim Crow Moves North_ is both a well-written and well-researched legal
and historical study of the struggle to achieve educational equality in
the North from Reconstruction to _Brown_. Few studies exist on the
extent of racism in the North, particularly with regard to segregation
in northern schools. Barring Leon Litwack's important study of African
Americans in the antebellum North and a handful of dated works that
focus on blacks in urban America, studies that deal with the subject of
northern racism are limited. Thus, Douglas's book is an important
contribution to the historical literature.

_Jim Crow Moves North_ flows chronologically, making it easy for the
reader to follow the social and political trends that contributed to
changes in racial segregation in northern schools. To be sure, the Civil
War did not settle the right of black Americans to an equal education,
much as it had not with regards to voting rights, housing, and
employment. Whites in the North, much like whites in the South, were
generally not accepting of the purportedly equal status of blacks and
responded by using extralegal forms of resistance to integration in all
areas of life. Although by 1890 "almost every Northern state" had
legally banned segregated education, for the most part, black and white
children attended separate and inherently unequal schools (p. 62).
According to Douglas, this trend would continue through the early 1950s,
and in some parts of the North, until the 1960s and 1970s.

Douglas begins with an overview of the struggle for black education in
the North during the antebellum era. Prior to the Civil War, residency,
state and local government structures, as well as the ethnic and racial
makeup of an area all contributed to where one attended school. Thus,
children were not necessarily segregated by race, but more so by
residential patterns. While this chapter falls out of the scope of the
book's title, it is important in establishing the status of black
educational equality and rights prior to the Civil War. As Douglas
argues in his chapter on the post-Civil War era, Reconstruction did
little to alter the status of black education in the North. As the Brown
decision has taught us, courts cannot legislate the hearts and minds of
individuals. Indeed, anti-black sentiment existed in the North much like
the South and even though state courts banned segregated education in
northern schools (sans Indiana), whites found ways to thwart these laws.

According to Douglas, beginning in the 1890s with the Supreme Court
ruling in _Plessy v. Ferguson_ (1896) that essentially legalized Jim
Crow, through World War I and the Depression era, northern school
segregation actually increased. As the percentage of blacks migrating
out of the South to northern cities for war work grew, so did white
hostility and increased intolerance of integration, particularly in
education. In addition, Douglas shows that migration patterns also
influenced residential segregation patterns as blacks increasingly
became relegated to certain areas of many major cities like Detroit and
Chicago; indeed, this was the beginning of the urban "ghetto." The
tensions that arose due to the large influx of southern blacks to the
North also contributed to a rise in lynchings, race riots, and increased
discrimination in otherwise overlooked areas such as interracial
marriage and public accommodations.

Responses to these changes, Douglas argues, were varied. While a number
of blacks challenged educational segregation in the courts, many others
called for separate accommodations, believing their children would
receive better treatment and a better education from the large numbers
of black teachers who increasingly found themselves out of work.
Subsequently, many blacks argued that the creation of separate black
schools would not only provide jobs for black teachers, but also an
education on par with that of whites. Douglas's discussion of W. E. B.
DuBois's change of heart over the integration/separation debate is
instructive of the tension that resounded in the black community at
mid-century. The alarming examples Douglas provides of the overt racism
by white teachers towards black children certainly aids the case for
separate schools.

The NAACP, however, in keeping with its long tradition of advocating
full integration for African Americans, stepped up its campaign for
integrated schools. Douglas contends that the 1940s, and the World War
II era in particular, was a "watershed ... in the campaign against
Northern school segregation" (p. 219). To be sure, the NAACP used the
inherent contradiction of fighting a war for democracy abroad, while not
adhering to the same values at home, to highlight the inconsistencies in
American schools. The examples Douglas provides of the numerous
challenges to northern segregated education contribute to the current
trend to expand the traditional timeline of the civil rights movement.

_Jim Crow Moves North_ ends with examples of "recalcitrant" school
districts in states such as Ohio and Illinois that refused integrate
their school districts after the _Brown_ decision and some even well
into the 1960s. To be sure, one of the more interesting points of the
books is the politics of memory. As Douglas uncovered, many northern
state and local governments still refuse to acknowledge, or perhaps
simply cannot recall, the fact that segregation had ever existed in
their school district. (He cites the fact that segregation existed in
Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Ohio through much of
the twentieth century [p. 4].) Even Oberlin College, often touted as the
foremost racially liberal institution in the country, jumped on the
segregation bandwagon (pp. 130-131). This fact alone is an important
contribution to the historiographical literature on American racism.

Douglas's book is an important addition to African American history and
the history of the modern civil rights movement for several reasons.
First, it highlights the significance of the social and political
context when trying to accomplish racial change through law. While
Supreme Court cases like _Brown_ were imperative to altering the racial
status quo in America, as Douglas aptly states, litigation and court
decisions must work "in conjunction with other strategies" (p. 276).
Second, Douglas elaborates on a significant and, often overlooked, issue
in African American history; integration vs. separation, a question that
plagues the black community to this day. Finally, and perhaps most
importantly, Douglas illustrates that the North was not so much unlike
the South when it came to racial attitudes; the North simply used more
subtle ways to enforce the separation of the races. As a southerner once
told me, "racism is just tacit in the North. It doesn't mean it doesn't
exist." _Jim Crow Moves North_ should be used in any African American
history course, if nothing else to show that racism was not simply the
South's problem, but the nation's problem.

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04-12-2007, 06:22 PM
Is that the one with Leo and the Library?

Its Big Lu baby
04-17-2007, 07:36 PM

this book is fucking bananas. seriously. cop this shit. i dont even read that much but wow. this shit is funny and intruiging. for all those Corpers who have never been laid (i know theres a couple of you) pick this shit up asap.

"This is a fascinating tale of a guy with marginal skills with the ladies (despite fame), who sets out on a life changing mission to master picking up women. I dare you to try and not get hooked in the first few pages. The characters are philanderers, gigolos, wannabes, braggarts, and every dysfunctional category in between. Their quest is obvious, and thrust in your face; to sleep with as many beautiful women as possible. The author Strauss has written several best sellers, as well as for Rolling Stone, and literally has no competition when it comes to spinning tales of this type. "

and read this shit its about the book

04-20-2007, 08:56 PM
1. The book of nine rings - Miyamoto Musashi

I started reading this because of people in the KTL thread but if you don't know what it is Miyamoto was probably one of the most famous Samurai's that existed and he wrote down his strategies to his fights which also relates to business. I've read this a few times but can't really understand it

2. Hagakure - Yamamoto Tsunetomo (translated by William Scott Willson)

I started reading this because of the extracts from the film "Ghost Dog" and have tried to lead my life by some of the extracts in the book which has helped sort my head out a bit. It is a short version of the code of the Samurai written by Yamamoto Tsunetomo

3. Vampire Armand - Anne Rice

O.K. so it's different from the "Book of Nine Rings" and the "Hagakure" but it's a really good book. For anyone that has seen the film "Interview with a vampire" Armand is the vampire that Louis (The person that gives the interview) meets in Paris. David (Lestat's newest fledging) has asked Armand to describe his life story so he can turn it into a book. It starts off with Amadeo (Armand) being kidnapped from Russia while hunting with his father and being sold in the slave trade into Venice, Italy where he is brought by Marius who teaches him literature, art and gives him a proper education. After a while Armand is poisened in a sword fight and while near death Marius turns Amadeo into a vampire to save his life and the book goes on from there

04-22-2007, 03:38 PM
1984 - George Orwell

A masterpiece of the 20th century, covering governmental conspiracy theories not even fathomed by many until much later into the century, largely thanks to the influence of the ideas of this novel.

A man named Winston finds himself meandering through his controlled life very slowly until he beings to think against the all-encompassing eternally knowledgeable government which sends him through a journey unlike any other in literature, commenting on the possibilities of world government and the extremes some may go to thanks to the allure of power.

The first book that managed to evoke fear in me, but then again I rarely read horror novels. This book, is not a horror novel, and it prods your mind with questions you may have yet to conceive (lest you be a part of the study of philosophy).

The one book I would recommend. It's not an easy read for your average Joe, don't expect Hollywood, this is political commentary.

05-18-2007, 01:51 AM
All i do is read Sun. Peep this shit, didnt think it be my style but shit was ill
http://www.amazon.com/Shibboleth-T-J-Mullane/dp/141375466X (http://www.amazon.com/Shibboleth-T-J-Mullane/dp/141375466X)
Let me know if you were feelin it. I think theres mad truth to that controvercy.

Coming 07/07/07

05-18-2007, 02:15 AM
AHHH This shit iz ill. I was just googled that author T J Mullane and found this article he wrote


http://www.helium.com/tm/206147/evaluating-market-aspnet-different (http://www.helium.com/tm/206147/evaluating-market-aspnet-different)

Any MC, or writer can relate to this shit.

Coming 07/07/07

05-18-2007, 05:59 PM
http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/516H1W1ASTL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0393061310/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-6668001-8448659#reader-link)

Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies is a 1997 book by Jared Diamond, professor of geography at UCLA . In 1998 it won a Pulitzer Prize and the Aventis Prize for Best Science Book. A documentary based on the book was broadcast on PBS in July, 2005, produced by the National Geographic Society.
According to the author, an alternative title would be A short history about everyone for the last 13,000 years.But the book is not merely an account of the past; it attempts to explain why Eurasian civilization, as a whole, has survived and conquered others, while refuting the belief that Eurasian hegemony is due to any form of Eurasian intellectual or moral superiority. Diamond argues that the gaps in power and technology between human societies do not reflect cultural or racial differences, but rather originate in environmental differences powerfully amplified by various positive feedback loops. He also, most explicitly in the epilogue, argues that societies with food surpluses and high-to-moderate degrees of interaction with outsiders are more likely to encourage great people to realize their full potential and to adopt new inventions.

If you are in this section I know you have thought about this. Why the world is the way it is today. This book honestly answers a lot of those questions. It explains why "the white man" rules the world today, but by debunking the typical racist theories that some people suggest. He is maticulous in his details, if your really interested in finding out why things are the way they are, I really suggest this book.

05-30-2007, 07:08 AM
a fuckin amazing read!!!!!!!...strategy and tactics that can be used for both warfare and everyday life.....i just can t beleive it was wrote so long ago.......your views on the book?

05-30-2007, 07:55 AM
I don't know man but now I'm gonna read it so thanks.

05-30-2007, 07:58 AM
which version do you have?

Find me a pic of it on Amazon, cuz my copy has like 3 different translations + essays

05-30-2007, 08:22 AM

Good read though.

Frontal Lobotomy
05-30-2007, 08:28 AM
Its a worthwhile read, certainly.

05-30-2007, 08:29 AM
It's a very good read but indeed overrated.

05-30-2007, 10:06 AM
check out art of peace now and balance yourself out

Bis Fan
05-30-2007, 12:06 PM
Abbot spit was reading Poker Without Cards by Ben Mack, but I stopped. I'll continue reading it another time.

I've also been flipping through the Mysticism of Masonry.

Oh and big bitch, YOU can read? 8O

06-27-2007, 01:39 AM
What's good, Clansmen (note that it's spelled with a 'C'...lol).

I haven't been on this site for over a year...because I lost then refound my password and didn't want to use a different username...

the last post I made (I believe) was a request for recommended reads...

since it's an important post and will help me get away from my TV...I'm restarting it...

In exchange I'll list a few of my favorite reads to kick this thing off...

* "the white boy shuffle" by Paul Beatty (my favorite novel ever)
"Tuff" by Paul Beatty
"the Fuck Up" by Arthur Nersesian (I love all I've read from him)
"The Bible"
"Captain Underpants" by Dav Pilky (I can't be intellectual all the time...potty humor's funny)

What else is good?

Thanks in advance


06-27-2007, 01:48 AM
48 Laws Of Power

Boy Unique
06-27-2007, 02:02 AM
Captain Underpants is the shit!!!!
ive read all of em!
im almost 17 and still waitin 4 the new ones!

06-27-2007, 02:02 AM
anything by Iceberg Slim

06-27-2007, 02:05 AM
Wu-Tang Manual.. for starters.. hope i read it already duke

06-27-2007, 02:12 AM
48 Laws Of Power
this one sounds raw, what's it about.

im not a novel guy, i like information books, so if you do to check

The Prince- Machiavelli
The Sun Tzu Art of War- Sun Tzu
Things Fall Apart- Chinua Achebe(its a novel)
And Cather and the Rye is real dope if you get it.

but these are all common books im sure you've read at least 1.

06-27-2007, 02:32 AM
Wu-Tang Manual.. for starters
yeah, this too

The Hound
06-27-2007, 03:11 AM
read alexandre dumas, jules verne and charles dickens, theyre my favourites

pride and prejudice
don quixote
crime and punishment
david copperfield
treasure island
journey to the centre of the earth
thirty thousand leagues under the sea
around the world in 80 days
rob roy
the count of monte cristo

all classics and should be read

06-27-2007, 03:53 AM
anything by 'Mark Brandon Reed' (chopper)

06-27-2007, 07:04 AM
american psycho

06-27-2007, 08:03 AM
soul on ice

06-27-2007, 08:16 AM
Monster - Author Sanyika Shakur

06-27-2007, 09:52 AM
A letter to a Christian Nation by Sam someone cant rememeber but it will take you about 2 hours and its RIVETTING i say rivetting

06-27-2007, 10:09 AM
Shit, reading "Master and Margarita" now by Mikhail Bulgakov.

Russian translated to english, it's done well, but I swear he made words up for this book

06-27-2007, 11:22 AM

the silencer
06-27-2007, 11:59 AM
The Turning Point by Fritjof Capra is a must-read...

i'm readin a bunch of Joseph Campbell books right now like Myths of Light, Thou Art That, and his journals from his trips to Asia....if you wanna check out Campbell i highly recommend Inner Reaches of Outer Space, incredibly deep stuff...

Ultimate Fist
06-27-2007, 10:28 PM
A letter to a Christian Nation by Sam someone cant rememeber but it will take you about 2 hours and its RIVETTING i say rivetting

Sam Harris. Great book. 100 pages, get it at the library, disproves a lot of lies the media feeds people.

07-07-2007, 08:51 PM
The Last Temptation of Christ

07-24-2007, 03:28 PM
a book called "Autism and Creativity" among other things.

its all about links between the two, and has case studies of various historical (recent or not) figures. it a pretty light but interesting read.

08-13-2007, 12:42 PM
currently reading : A Brief History of Everything

10-16-2007, 12:06 PM
I read this way back, but it is one of my favorite books.

Charles Dickens - Great Expectations

i got this also, wasn't all i'd hoped it would be :lmao: (great expectations - get it!)

10-16-2007, 12:14 PM
Written by the master swordsman and undefeated samurai Miyamoto Musashi in 1643, 'The Book of Five Rings' has become a classic on strategy and confrontation. Written not only for martial artists but for leaders in all professions, the book analyses the process of struggle and mastery over conflict that underlies every level of human interaction. I prefer it to Sun Tzu's Art of War.
Also try The Hermetica: The Lost Wisdom of the Pharaohs
and The Prophet by Kahil Gibran

01-15-2008, 11:48 AM
Read Art of War by Sun Tzu good book
Mumia Abu-Jamal Live from Death Row was a well-written excellent read.
Aristotle “Politics” very informative on government issues
I am currently reading The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli.
Another book to check out is "Think" by Simon Blackburn a compelling introduction to philosophy. Also, check out this website called www.online-literature.com. It has tons of resources, very informative all I do is copy and paste books right into my Microsoft Word for free.

03-29-2008, 08:51 AM
Re reading some of Bret Easton Ellis' stuff.

currently on 'Rules of Attraction'.

im also looking at "A Bonfire of the Vanities" which i need to return to the library in about 2 days.

03-29-2008, 09:06 AM
catcher in the rye is pretty good