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V4D3R
04-06-2007, 03:16 PM
Go fuck yourselves.

Love God- love your neighbor - abolish religion.

SID
04-08-2007, 02:26 PM
do you disbelieve in god or jus religon?

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 02:36 PM
religion

SID
04-08-2007, 03:26 PM
if there was no religon (rules of life designed by god for humankind to live by), how would we know god existed, how would we know how to act , behave, heaven n hell all that shit... just askin for your point of view.....

Scáth Bán
04-08-2007, 03:26 PM
What makes you so much smarter than everybody else that we should take your word? V4der

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 03:38 PM
Religion made you ask that question.

Religion gave you the fear.

Religion is the the software - your brain the hardware.

You have been programed.

Religion divides us. Religion causes wars.

Religion has brothers killing brothers.

Religion has fuckers like St Paul that killed christians and then come back and say Jesus spoke to them on the road while they were alone. And everybody believes him.

St Paul said that people should not be married - especialy priests. That made a lot of sense with the catholic church now did it?

People kill in the name of Allah, the name of Jesus, the name of somebody - just because they feel another religion is evil.

RELIGION IS EVIL.

SID
04-08-2007, 03:51 PM
i ask my question again.. how would we know of the existance of god if he did no reveal it to us in one manifistation or the other(yes the world around us is an example of creation) but how would we know if there was more then one deity? how to conduct ourselves? to pray or not to pray?... do you think he would have created THE HUMAN RACE and just left us to ponder.. and if you believe in heaven and hell, being left alone to ponder and wonder is not the state of mind the almighty creater wants you to be in if were going to be judged on our actions. I understand why you think religon is "the route of all evil" but the real evil does not lie in the holy books it lies in the evil big headed, priests, shaikhs and rabbis who think they have more power in gods eye, and promote their religon as right and the others wrong, like for instance in the qu,ran in constintently promotes the unity of the abrahamic religons, (but the shaikhs dont listen to that and promote there own ego driven banter

peace

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 03:58 PM
My seeking is done padawan. I been where your at in your seeking since back in '91. I have read most of this worlds religions. I have read too much that it has most likely driven me insane - (don't read the Necronomicon) I see how it all points to the Anunnaki that needed to control us at one point so they could use us for slavery and war purposes against each other.

And we slaved and we fought and we died and we sinned against our own brothers because our brother fought for the other side-

Like I said b4- it's 2007 and we are still fighting over them.

SID
04-08-2007, 04:01 PM
you still dident answer my question my young padawan!

lol

SID
04-08-2007, 04:04 PM
hold on... you think the Anunnaki were extra-terrestrials who came to Earth in antiquity and tampered with the genetic makeup of primitive mankind?
thats your theory? i smell....... somthing david icke-ish

g_flex
04-08-2007, 04:05 PM
so if there was no religion..no one would kill each other?...its all in the head of the man with a divided plan...

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 04:08 PM
you still dident answer my question my young padawan!

lol

Do you really think God spoke to Moses-Abraham-Mohammed on mountain tops?

It was not God seen from a pillar within clouds shining chariots and emissaries like Gabriel.

I refuse to believe in this evil/good God written about by men and non-men.

Remember that Satan has a plan for mankind - The Great Big Lie.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/V4D3R/V4D3RkillsYorksAss.gif

SID
04-08-2007, 04:13 PM
thats a point g-flex, that most of us know..."if there was no religon there would be no war", what a load of BULLSHIT, its in our gentic make up thats how MEN are- the equation is simple boy becomes man, man marries a women, man feels ego, man has children, man feels a sesce of ownership and love, man seeks more, man seeks power, power seeks the powerfull, the powerfull seek control, control seeks the powerfull, control causes war, war cause death....... religon is just a fuckin facade (scapegoat)the powerfull cower behind for the ills of man...

PEACE

SID
04-08-2007, 04:15 PM
how do you believe in satan, and know he exists, you would not know of the devil if it wasent mentioned in the holy books.... (so your jus pickin out parts of the religon that make sence to you and leaving the parts that dosent)

Urban_Journalz
04-08-2007, 04:34 PM
Just came to say Peace to Sid_Katana for speakin' the truth.

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 04:36 PM
So your saying that Chetchnya/Croatia/The Crusades/ - were not over religion? Those people were murdered because they were Muslim.

Hitler - did he not kill Jewish because they were Jewish?

What about Isreal - "God's Chosen People" - they hunt and kill Palestinians because of....? They raise their homes with bulldozers because of what....?

My whole point yo - is that we got confused and divided - religion.

Why the fuck would God come back more than once to tell the story differently - yet tell each culture he gave it to- that the other is the same.

Don't you smell rivaling siblings?

"I'm going to be a better God than you were."

Some just can't grasp this.
Maybe this link will help....

http://www.halexandria.org/dward763.htm

SID
04-08-2007, 04:38 PM
WORD UP urban...

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 04:42 PM
thats a point g-flex, that most of us know..."if there was no religon there would be no war", what a load of BULLSHIT, its in our gentic make up thats how MEN are- the equation is simple boy becomes man, man marries a women, man feels ego, man has children, man feels a sesce of ownership and love, man seeks more, man seeks power, power seeks the powerfull, the powerfull seek control, control seeks the powerfull, control causes war, war cause death....... religon is just a fuckin facade (scapegoat)the powerfull cower behind for the ills of man...

PEACE

Do you even know how your genetic make-up works? Did you know that DNA has a lot to do with this?

This is something - religion also makes mankind a dumbed down species that wont question certain things. They invent answers according to holy books.

True science has been set-back because of religion.

SID
04-08-2007, 04:46 PM
homeboy iam givin you a good fuckin discussion, an givin you good questions n thoughts, but you keep comin up with the same shit "its religon dude its evil dude, fuck religon man yeahh" naaa give me a good point, talk about the crusades(who led the crusades, the bible- no, god- no, richard the lionheart- YES) the holocaust (the bible-no, god- no, adolf fuckin hitler-YES,the genocide in palestine, the torah- no, god- no, the evil zionist(far from jewish) regime YES, it applies to all other conflicts of religon, its not the HOLY BOOKS (which are the religons) its a fuckin man/men with there own evil objectives i hope you can see past there lies dog RELIGON equals peace and love, evil corrupt men equal WAR simple as that

PEACE

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 04:48 PM
If your a Moslem - be a man - admit it - deep down you distrust Christians and Jewish people.

If your Jewish - admit it- you hate Moslems most of you and doubt Christians.

If your Christian - admit your hatred of Moslems thats burrowed.

Sure - mankind uses these vises now mostly for reasons like Oil or just taking over a country, but it was originally used to program us like pawns for wars over 'gods" that walked among us.

SID
04-08-2007, 04:50 PM
i am not going at this argument dumbed down- jus from the other side of the fence.. "DNA has a lot to do with this", so are you tellin me you believe the "anunnaki aliens came down and tampered with our DNA... thats david icke shit boy....and i hope you aint no david icke

SID
04-08-2007, 04:53 PM
my friend you have got it wrong as i said in an earlier post islam (if you know anything about it not whats been spoon fed to you by the government) spreads love towards the other abrahamic revalations we call them people of the book and believe in their books.. and iam sure most normal deep thinking jews and christians feel the same, not the ones spoon-fed by the priest, or rabbi, which i agreed, cast a shadow on religon

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 04:55 PM
Quit calling me Icke - and boy - because you don't know what your talking about. You think Icke got his ideas all on his own? You think what you want to think- but you took eveything that was layed down in front of you - out of context - because- your religous. And want to fight/challenge anything that destroys your belief - just like you were programmed too.

See how my link worked again BigBen and LHX.

SID
04-08-2007, 04:56 PM
its sounding to me like you want to promote hate

If your a Moslem - be a man - admit it - deep down you distrust Christians and Jewish people.

If your Jewish - admit it- you hate Moslems most of you and doubt Christians.

If your Christian - admit your hatred of Moslems thats burrowed

no no no no no i got mad love for my christian and jewish brothers...i hate the zionists with a passion but there not jewish there following a political agenda.. and thats the same with most rational intellegiant jews and christians

SID
04-08-2007, 04:59 PM
iam not programmed my friend like you i searched EVERYTHING, judasim,christianity, judasim,buddhisim,zorastrinism, universal totalerism EVEN the nation of godz an earths, i too pondered and doubted, but found solitude and euphoric beauty in the verses of the qu,ran like my billions of brothers out there, i belive in the books of my brother religons equally

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 05:16 PM
iam not programmed my friend like you i searched EVERYTHING, judasim,christianity, judasim,buddhisim,zorastrinism, universal totalerism EVEN the nation of godz an earths, i too pondered and doubted, but found solitude and euphoric beauty in the verses of the qu,ran like my billions of brothers out there, i belive in the books of my brother religons equally
Then we're on the same team. I just see things differently then you do.

No I'm not trying to promote evil. I promote what China would like to see though in their country - no religion.

It's time people do things in the name of Mankind for God - instead of the name of a god for mankind.

SID
04-08-2007, 05:26 PM
its all good and well sayin do it in the name of mankind for god, but how can we do things for god if he hasent guided us yet! thats were religon comes in..... just think about this for a sec if the almighty made a world filled with such intelligent creatures, resourses and other amazing things would he make things easy for us ..NO (what would be the point of our creation, wheres the test?) he would make them hard... choices in religon there all obstacles placed by god but all point to the same thing belief in a supreme being.. not in war.... the devil has a book of tricks which have effected you and millions of other people.. you believe in god (i leave that for your personal concience) but if you dont believe in raligon how long will it be before you loose faith in god... than the devils trick would have been completed, ive met many people who gone down the road of (religons are evil) and all ended up atheists... The devil scores bigtime.....

PEACE

SID
04-08-2007, 05:29 PM
and china promoe atheism becomes thay have allowed themselves to grow a soceity where there system of belief is the chinnese folk religon, and now they see how insane the stuff they were believing in is, thay go the opposite direction

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 05:36 PM
but how can we do things for god if he hasent guided us yet! thats were religon comes in.....

This was my point yo. You don't need religion to do this. You need commune with The Creator( I dont really call him God- could be a trick to call on something else) The Creator.

All you need is to guide your-self to the Creator through your mind. God is within you.

Jesus did not advocate a religion. He followed the laws of a man named Moses. That man was guided. He did not make up a religion Moses. Mankind made the religion. We don't know who guided Moses. We do know what is right and what is wrong.

Another way to look at it is we have a spirit within us. That spirit is the Creator.

Did religion cause us a better world - or the spirit in every good man that lived for peace cause the better world - the idea?

SID
04-08-2007, 05:43 PM
did evil greedy men corrupted by the taint of devil cause a bad world
or the beautifull works of art that are the abrahamic holy books, a line of divine beautifull books starting with noah, through to moses, soloman, jesus, david, mohammed. thats the truth.. i suppose you couldent understand the language of the holy books (if you read them fully) and i doubt you read the qu,ran in arabic (the original language) or the torah in hebrew(decended directly from the original language), i think that you jumped on the bandwagon of the peole who say religon divides because they want somthing to blame on the sad state of affairs , not looking in a wider perspective....

Scáth Bán
04-08-2007, 05:49 PM
RELIGION IS EVIL.

What the fuck have you done for the world that makes you so much better?

Scáth Bán
04-08-2007, 05:53 PM
And men are the ones who are evil, not the religion.

SID
04-08-2007, 05:56 PM
its cool vader i dont want you to think your gettin boyd off or anthing
reply your point of view this is a compelling argument

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 06:20 PM
So do you think the Creator will reject you if you don't follow a religion?

Is that your problem Scath?

Are you angry because I think it's evil to divide mankind?

Religion divides.

We been divided on more then one level.

Spiritually with religion.

Racially with the level of melanin

Language with words

Nationality with Countries

Scáth Bán
04-08-2007, 06:34 PM
So do you think the Creator will reject you if you don't follow a religion?

Is that your problem Scath?

Are you angry because I think it's evil to divide mankind?

Religion divides.

We been divided on more then one level.

Spiritually with religion.

Racially with the level of melanin

Language with words

Nationality with Countries

If Japan and China had no religions how come they fought with each other? It had nothing to do with religion.

Scáth Bán
04-08-2007, 06:42 PM
You act as if religion is the only thing that divides people, that it's the only thing that can cause war, that we'd live in total peace without it. Yes you did say that it's another level, that there is other stuff, but has religion not also brought people together? Has it done no good?

SID
04-08-2007, 06:44 PM
vader your stating a modern phenomenon which is caused by the psycholigical
need to blame something for wrong-doings in your life, you have chose religon because its a bit of a "fashion" at the moment and it has been made to look like evil by, fox news, CBS and all the media, which i hope you dont watch, how can religon divide humanity when they all spread the message of unity and peace on earth.. ask yourself that.. there must be somthing else in the mix causing these supposed clashes, yes- it is evil, greddy ,globilist, zionist, satan-inspired men, and until the day you get that.. you are another soul caught in their web of deceit

PEACE

V4D3R
04-08-2007, 11:10 PM
In the Sixth Century B.C.E. (beginning some 600 years before the current era), something absolutely extraordinary happened. Prior to this time, religion for mankind was essentially based on doing what the Gods and Goddesses (http://www.halexandria.org/dward371.htm) (aka, the “Anunnaki (http://www.halexandria.org/dward185.htm)”) wanted man to do. If a god (or goddess) wanted you to go to war, you went to war. If not, you went at your own very substantial risk (and often paid a heavy price). However,
Beginning about 600 B.C.E. true philosophy (ethics, individual responsibility, personal relationship with God, etceteras) became available to the mainstream of societies.

This time period can be illustrated in part by noting a few dates of influential philosophers and thinkers. For example:

Zarathustra (627-585 BCE) promulgated the Dualism of Good and Evil,

Lao-Tzu (604-531 BCE) wrote the Tao de Ching (http://www.halexandria.org/dward450.htm),

Confucius (580?-479 BCE) “flaunted his agnosticism”,

Buddha (565-483 BCE) taught a “godless wisdom”,

Xenophanes (550 BCE) criticized Greek polytheism,

Pythagoras (550 BCE) taught sacred geometry and mathematically based science,

Isaiah (550 BCE) taught “the first true monotheism in history”,

Theagenes (525 BCE) “rationalized Homer”, and

Hecataeus (500 BCE) “mocked the Greek myths”.

Circa 500 B.C.E., the Olmecs brought forth their calendar and mathematics; Heraclitus talked about universal flux and rhythm, Parmenides wrote about the oneness of Being, Empedocles about the unity of opposites, and Democritus about atoms and progress.

Continuing along this track, history encountered Thucydides (400), Trial of Socrates (399), Plato’s Academy (387), Aristotle (335), Indian Artha-sastra (politically rationalistic), Zhuangzi (mystical idealism), Shang Yang (legalism), Euclid (geometry), the latter arriving all in the Fourth Century B.C.E.

In Chinese History (http://www.halexandria.org/dward208.htm), for example, 1000 B.C.E. marks the beginning of the Zhou Dynasty, which emphasized very strongly the Emperor’s “mandate of heaven” and “obedience to Gods”. But beginning in 772 B.C.E. in Southern China (and extending until 481 B.C.E.), the so-called “Springs and Autumns Period” began. This consisted of eight lesser periods, when life and limb were cheap, barbaric, and toward the end, “philosophy became more important than war.” This is when Lao Tzu (http://www.halexandria.org/dward451.htm) and Confucius had arrived on the scene.

Meanwhile, Judaism [which traditionally began during the time of Abraham (circa 2000 B.C.E.)] was, in its early beginnings, primarily concerned with Yahweh, Yahweh’s chosen people, and those same chosen people doing precisely what Yahweh wanted them to do.

According to Encyclopaedia Britannica [1]: “The prophets were first and foremost teachers of religion, not of ethics. Their supreme concern was the will of God, rather than the rule of righteousness.” However, in the 6th century, B.C.E. Jeremiah and Ezekiel began to emphasize “individual responsibility and sought to restore to the people a sense of personal relationship with God, which they had lost under the impact of pagan influence.” “This was a time of general national disintegration, when religious and social organizations were rapidly breaking up.”

It is likely that the “sense of personal relationship with God”, which Jeremiah and Ezekiel wanted to “restore”, may have originated in the earliest Sumerian (http://www.halexandria.org/dward183.htm) ethics, where doing right was valued above obeying the dictates of any god or goddess. But said ethics likely came down from Enki. It is Enki who should be considered to be the true father of mankind, the first to arrive on earth, and likely, the Anunnaki (http://www.halexandria.org/dward185.htm) who set down the early ingredients of civilization. (Evidence for this derives from the ancient Sumerian story of the Sumerian goddess, Inanna (http://www.halexandria.org/dward384.htm) “stealing” the attributes of civilization -- The Me (http://www.halexandria.org/dward187.htm) -- from Enki.)

At the same time, the Enki and Enlil (http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm) conflict undoubtedly led to the needs and dictates of Enlil wherein obedience probably contributed to very early Judaism’s departure from this ideal, and became a religion of discipline to the god in charge -- in this case, Enlil. Such a situation was obvious from the time of Abraham, when Yahweh (Enlil) was intimately involved with his chosen people in the day-to-day intervention in earthly affairs.

Laurence Gardner (http://www.halexandria.org/dward196.htm), the esteemed author of Bloodline of the Holy Grail, Genesis of the Grail Kings, and Realm of the Ring Lords has noted that outside Biblical references, “there is no documented reference to the ‘one’ Jehovah god, as such, before” 600 B.C.E. “Onwards from c.586 BC, when the Israelites were captive in Babylonia, they began to compile the Old Testament. The Genesis stories which they grafted onto their ancient history came out of Mesopotamia, and much else in the OT [Old Testament] was added later from Palestinian and Egyptian records.

“The perceived Jehovah figure first appeared in around 530 BC and, since the earlier Mesopotamian, Palestinian and Egyptian accounts (re. the said patriarchs, etc.) were very Elohim/Anunnaki based, the new Jewish One God concept (which did not exist before their return to Judah after the captivity) was applied retrospectively to all their ancestral accounts. In reality, the beliefs of those such as Noah, Abraham, Moses & co. were based on the old notions of the plurality of gods, with the only monotheistic concept being the Aten culture of Amarna (c.1360 BC). This was ready-made for the Israelite writers, who converted the word to Adon (Lord) and applied the principle back to the beginning of time.”

Gardner goes on to describe the relevant Jewish History (http://www.halexandria.org/dward209.htm) which leads him to the conclusion that: “Noah, Abraham and the patriarchs were all part of the original Elohim/ Anunnaki culture and knew nothing about the One god ideal that was to be invented and thrust upon their memory centuries later.” [2]

[Note: If Immanuel Velikovsky (http://www.halexandria.org/dward197.htm) is to be believed, then the “culture of Amarna” might be more accurately dated as c.780. Moreover, the same culture was Egyptian, and Egypt has always been considered as one of the early bastions of Enki.]

Quite a bit further east, “The earliest phase of Hinduism (http://www.halexandria.org/dward211.htm) is rooted in the religion of the Vedas,” which was composed between 1000 and 600 B.C.E. Essentially appendices, “the Aranyakas (circa 600 B.C.E.) and Upanishads (circa 600 to 300 B.C.E.) respectively expound the symbolism of the more recondite rites and speculate on the nature of the universe and man’s relation to it. When Vedic religion gradually evolved into Hinduism between the 6th and 2nd centuries B.C.E., these texts taken collectively became the most sacred literature of Hinduism.” [3]

The key here is to have the humans performing rites actually understand what the rites are about (a very empowering concept), as well as begin to comprehend how man relates to the rest of the universe. Additionally, “By perhaps 600 B.C.E., the new doctrine of the continual process of reincarnation (samsura) was known to comparatively small circles of ascetics and was coupled with the idea of karma, the fundamental law of cause and effect by which the evildoer is reborn in unhappy conditions. It spread very rapidly, and seems to have been accepted almost universally in the time of Buddha (6th century). It’s origin and rapid diffusion are not yet satisfactorily explained.” [3]

The last statement is noteworthy in that an origin and rapid diffusion is readily explained, if one assumes that a “god” such as Enki had determined that in the Age of Pisces (http://www.halexandria.org/dward207.htm), -- when he was in charge -- that humans would have access to the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and that he had the means to spread the word.

Also in this same time frame, we have Lao Tzu, et al (http://www.halexandria.org/dward213.htm), i.e.: Lao Tzu (b. c. 600 B.C.E.), Confucius (b. 551 B.C.E.), Zarathustra (born c. 630 B.C.E.), and Gautama Buddha (b. 563 B.C.E.), all of whose philosophies both reject the pantheon of Gods and Goddesses (http://www.halexandria.org/dward371.htm), and simultaneously, proclaim non-exclusive human philosophies that were not dependent upon the will of gods and/or goddesses, but upon human free will to make individual choices. The type of material that the God of Wisdom (Enki) would condone.

The relevant question is: Why was there a fundamental change in philosophy and religion (at least philosophy available for humans) beginning about 600 B.C.E., and possibly continuing for some 200 to 300 years thereafter?

One possibility is as suggested by Laurence Gardner, “Early Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism and other religious bases also became more tightly formulated and defined from around 600 BC for the same reasons of control by the outward spread of the empires - Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian and Roman. People of the occupied lands began to get very philosophical - looking for reasons for their subjugation, and looking inwardly for the community identities which they had lost in terms of birthright, but could perhaps reinstate by way of fraternal religion.” [4]

This is, of course, a distinct possibility. But Gardner also notes: “In the midst of this some truly academic philosophers emerged (Pythagoras, Confucius, etc.), who were not looking for vindication for the past and present - but for new routes to the future.”

This would suggest that the philosophies that originated in the Sixth Century B.C.E. time era were not wholly based on “where’d we go wrong?” But that there was the allowance for a new manner of thinking, one which actually disseminated itself into the mainstream societies of the ancient world. A related question, therefore, is what is meant by the implication of such considerations being “allowed”?

A possible answer derives from considering the Age of Pisces (http://www.halexandria.org/dward207.htm), as a factor.

Pisces is astrologically associated with the planet Neptune, which in turn is very much associated with the god, Enki. There is also evidence to suggest that the Anunnaki were appreciative of Sacred (http://www.halexandria.org/dward095.htm) Geometry and Astrology (http://www.halexandria.org/dward329.htm), and gave the god or goddess to which the current age was associated, unprecedented power or authority over the affairs of human beings. These “ages” last some 2,160 years each (and perhaps longer for constellations which span a greater than 1/12th portion of the Zodiac -- Pisces being the most notable exception and the prior constellation of Aries being comparatively one of the smallest spans of the Zodiac). It is possible, therefore, that Enki has ostensibly been in charge of the affairs of earth since as far back as 600 B.C.E., and may continue to be in overt control until roughly the present day. One estimate is until the end of the Mayan Calendar (http://www.halexandria.org/dward417.htm) -- currently believed to end on or about 21 December 2012 A.D. (http://www.halexandria.org/dward415.htm)

Enki, being the father of mankind, may have a much greater investment in the future of human beings than say, Enlil. It was Enlil, after all, who was instrumental in allowing humankind to perish in Noah’s flood, while Enki was busily providing the patriarch with boat plans! Enki may have decided to use his “age” to provide human civilization with a religion of philosophies, and more than just a religion of obedience to the whims of any member of a dysfunctional family of extraterrestrials (aka gods and goddesses).

This makes sense if the credit is given to Enki as the father of mankind (the Anunnaki who with his half-sister, Ninki, was instrumental in the DNA manipulation that combined the genes of Homo erectus and the Anunnaki themselves in order to produce Homo sapiens sapiens (http://www.halexandria.org/dward189.htm). As a “parent”, Enki may have taken the position of allowing his creation enough free will to hang themselves, i.e. let them grow up without constant supervision and/or interference. Parents do that sort of thing.

This is not to suggest that during the time Enki is the “official” god of choice, that all the other Anunnaki who might be construed as anti-Enki or anti-human, are simply biding their time, and sitting on the sidelines. There is reason to believe other Anunnaki factions may be covertly managing human affairs until the beginning of the Age of Aquarius (which is associated with Uranus and Anu, the latter, Enki and Enlil (http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm)’s father), and therefore, the age in which a whole new set of rules may be in effect.

[As for the Age of Aquarius, the Nibiru Cycle (http://www.halexandria.org/dward238.htm) upon which Anu may reside, suggests that Anu is unlikely to be available of consultation or management of Earth -- the ultimate absentee landlord! -- any time prior to about 3400 A.D. But instead of more of the same, the Enki and Enlil rivalry may return with a vengeance, circa December 21, 2012 A.D. (http://www.halexandria.org/dward415.htm)!]

I.e., it is highly unlikely Enki would be allowed to operate in a completely autonomous fashion. The Anunnaki are, based on their history, not so inclined. However, the anti-Enki factions may have switched from their previous overt dictatorial means to covert, conspiratorial, and devious means by which they influenced their dominions. In effect, for the last two and a half millennia, the anti-Enki faction(s) have been very busy maintaining control over an obstinate, and increasingly dangerous human race.

A dangerous human race because the basic problem with humans is they breed like rabbits, develop extremely rapidly (a likely result of their comparatively short lives with respect to the very long lived Anunnaki), and may have the potential to outstrip their gods and goddesses in a host of ways. While an ant is trivially easy for a human to step on and dispatch to the hereafter, army ants are virtually unstoppable by mere man. Similarly, large masses of humankind may be considered to be dangerous to their overlords, even when it is simplicity itself to eliminate specific humans on a one-on-one basis. Furthermore, the potential for human to take the next step in their evolution may be especially troublesome to those Anunnaki best described as control freaks and anal retentives.

Alternatively, Gardner has also noted that despite the work of the Sixth Century B.C.E. philosophers, such as Phythagoras and Confucius, the search for new routes to the future have been seriously led astray. “Heaven only knows what Enki and the original good guys would have thought of the rest, and of where their institutions have led mankind since. Perhaps they threw up their hands in despair - and probably a good while before 600 BC. There is no social similarity anywhere now with the harmonious environment that Enki appeared to uphold, and from c.600 BC the idea of territorial dominion by imperial conceived regimes moved to a widespread international scale.

“It might appear that people were moved towards more free-will and choice from 600 BC, but in fact those choices which actually affected nations were made (then as today) by the few who controlled the many. The people in general were only afforded (then as today) superficial choices of a day-to-day nature - so they appeared to have more freedom, but actually had no real influence in terms of community management.” [4]

This is true in many respects, i.e. the alleged freedom of so-called citizens of the Western World being pretty much the same as that of Greek or Roman Citizens -- provided you don’t offend the powers that be (Socrates), or go against the desires of a Caesar. But one can distinguish between free will and freedom. One can have free will, the god-given inalienable right to freely choose the mode of one’s thinking and how they react to a given situation, and simultaneously live in a society with very little freedom.

The question is whether or not Enki and others are allowing as much freedom as possible, while covertly others are attempting to sabotage the Human Race Freedom Experiment.

Laurence Gardner’s thoughts on this are noteworthy: “I doubt that Enki has been actively in charge of anything for a long time, or we wouldn't be in such an undignified international mess. Guess he's just sitting with his feet up and a bottle of wine, while we screw things up - - until (I hope) the day when the message dawns that there must be another way. But for that to happen, we need a whole new mindset, a new breed of leaders, revised social ideals, and a reconsidered concept of where we should correctly be headed. Once we discover this unified Holy Grail, I guess the precepts of Enki can be reinstated to return the wasteland to fertility. Meanwhile, I wish he'd drop me an email to let me know the game plan!” [4]

Yeah, Enki! And please copy me as well!

supremecharma
04-09-2007, 04:15 AM
ok u win.

SID
04-09-2007, 08:29 AM
who wins charma vader just copied and pasted some shit which he thinks is true, tthat dosent make him win shit boy. vader - dude leave out the annunaki, it is fuckin insane....and i bet your one of the dudes who thinks star wars carries a lot of subliminal messages about god and shit

supremecharma
04-09-2007, 09:07 AM
^^^ nice!!

SID
04-09-2007, 02:19 PM
you had enough of this discussion vader?

V4D3R
04-09-2007, 02:28 PM
Yes Master.....



























are you fuckin nuts bwoy? Cho bumboclaaat.

Think what you wanna think? How's that?

SID
04-09-2007, 02:37 PM
take it easy my apprentice

V4D3R
04-09-2007, 02:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/V4D3R/V4D3RkillsYorksAss.gifHave a good trip.

SID
04-09-2007, 02:44 PM
Lol

SID
04-09-2007, 02:48 PM
just for the record do you believe that star wars carries a lot of hidden messages about god and stuff

V4D3R
04-09-2007, 02:59 PM
Lucas has stated that it was inspired by Joseph Campbell's works Star Wars.

Campbell wrote that all the worlds religions and myths can be traced back to one story....

M_N
04-10-2007, 08:43 AM
Pope = Darth Sidious

http://www.apollowebworks.com/atheism/images/emperor.jpghttp://www.apollowebworks.com/atheism/images/josephratzinger.jpg
believe it or not!

Hellspawn
04-10-2007, 08:57 AM
Hahahahahahahahaha Looooooool Lmao :)

SID
04-10-2007, 03:08 PM
hahaahaha lol what can i say both evil......both corrupt... hey you gotta match

Dirty Knowledge
04-10-2007, 05:07 PM
Yeah the Devil is playing us like fools, making us believe we should fight eachother over a city in Jerusalem rather than fight for eachother.