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Black Man
04-13-2007, 12:02 PM
this i found somewhere....the writer makes some good points. there's many ways to look at this situation.


White America...Fukk Yall!!! This Is My Moment Of Clarity
Its funny how when a white person fukks up black people get blamed for it

This Imus guy made some very racist,nasty disrespectful comments and he deserved to be fired. Its not the end of the world. People get fired everyday. He needed to go. Plain and Simple

But the sh1t that gets me is now every media outlet is pushing the blame on Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and....Rappers

Why cant they just rest with the fact that Imus is WRONG! End of Story

WTF does rappers have to do with it??? Why are Rappers in a whole being punished? Not all rappers put down females and there own race. Yea u got the bad ones but should all rappers be put on blast. I read a quote someone said in a interview callin us hypocrites cuz we want to punish a "white" broadcaster instead of a "black" rapper. LOL what about the white rappers that disrespect women and put out bad messages. What about Eminem, Bubba Sparxx, Lil Wyte, Paul Wall,etc

But again why does White America have to bring up Rappers and try to flip this whole story to make black people look like the enemy

What about hardcore rock n roll artist with suicide music and satanism?? What about reggae artist??? All genres of music have artists who put out bad messages, disrespect women and humans period. Why put all the blame on rappers? But that shouldnt even be the case with this Imus situation

Sh1t makes me sick man! White people just cant accept the fact that Imus is a racist guy.

When Al Sharpton was involved in the rally for the situation involving Yayo and Henchmen kid, that wasnt front page news for 5 days straight. But when it involves a white man its on every news channel

For us black people its just when we win we lose at the same time.

Anytime we try to make a change we get criticized for it. When we dont try to make a change we get criticized for it. WE JUST CANT WIN!

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AcidPhosphate69
04-13-2007, 12:12 PM
Some good points. Some not so good points. Like trying to shift blame to other music. Music has nothing to do with it in general. It seems like everytime something goes wrong they either look to music or video games as the scapegoat.

Sh1t makes me sick man! White people just cant accept the fact that Imus is a racist guy.

Yeah, the dude is probaly racist. No doubt about that but for real, he does have the right to say what he wants. Granted, the dumbass had to go on national radio and say some stupid ass shit trying to be funny and got fired. But, if he were to get his own station under his control, he could put out racist remarks all day and you really can't do a thing about it. That's the bitch of free speech, it's supposed to protect everybody.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 12:49 PM
everybody doesn't have free speech, nor is free speech the ability to say anything at any time. there are boundaries to free speech. freedom of speech isn't just verbal speech. see if a person has the right to express themselves freely, freedom of speech, them people can speak with they hands...

i don't think the author is trying to shift the blame to other genres of music, i think he's only making the point that other music has "negative" messages not jut rap music. it's "rap" music or "hiphop" that is usually the scapegoat for whatever is wrong with society, however that's not the case.

i highly doubt this imus fella listens to hiphop....or any "white" cat making 6 figures or close to it unless they're in a business where they need to know what going on in hiphop or atleast be aware from the outskirts.

living_undead
04-13-2007, 01:20 PM
i dont understand why the news is stirring up this racial controversy.
what do they want to see happen?

V4D3R
04-13-2007, 01:42 PM
Bush wants Marshall Law - he needs a reason to be allowed to do what he wants to do. eg. Riots.

abasi
04-13-2007, 02:07 PM
just because rappers use bitch and hoe doesnt give Imus the right to call any woman that on air and just because rappers do it doesnt make it right
but we can look at the backlash as a curse or a blessing. i'm going to look at this as a blessing because it may clean up all the trash thats in hip hop especially these big corporations telling these rappers what type of material to put out, Hip Hop is going to be hit hard by this Imus thing mark my words

Sexy Jasper
04-13-2007, 02:32 PM
Why's is it racist what he said? Ironically, calling him racist for saying nappy headed hos makes that person a racist for inferring that a certain race are nappy heads.

To me it was clear Imus wasn't trying to be racist, sexist maybe. Censorship simply isn't the answer and it's weak how he made worse comments in the past and no one ever made a such a big deal about it and now everyone has their knickers in a bunch for 'nappy headed hos'. Hypocrits.

Freedom of speech for all.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 03:14 PM
for those who ask "why" the statement "nappy headed hoes" is "racist" when a "white" person says it, do not understand the tactics of racism nor the deep seeded hate for black people. "nappy headed hoes" is a destructive idea that has "black" people in general believing their features are "ugly" causing a self destructive way of living. "white" folk tend not to understand these various aspects of black life.

these terms these white folk be using, they don't just think them up, they've been used for centuries to inflict fear and pain onto the black community.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 03:16 PM
i dont understand why the news is stirring up this racial controversy.
what do they want to see happen?

how is the news stirring up racial controversy? what's the controersy?

Alesco
04-13-2007, 03:19 PM
Coulour Huh

Sexy Jasper
04-13-2007, 04:32 PM
for those who ask "why" the statement "nappy headed hoes" is "racist" when a "white" person says it, do not understand the tactics of racism nor the deep seeded hate for black people. "nappy headed hoes" is a destructive idea that has "black" people in general believing their features are "ugly" causing a self destructive way of living. "white" folk tend not to understand these various aspects of black life.

these terms these white folk be using, they don't just think them up, they've been used for centuries to inflict fear and pain onto the black community.Then Imus, wouldn't "understand the tactics of racism" either, and thus he didn't mean anything racist by it.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 04:35 PM
Then Imus, wouldn't "understand the tactics of racism" either, and thus he didn't mean anything racist by it.

imus isn't asking why this is "racist" he knows exactly why it is. this is clearly seen by his continued behavior of using statement like this. this is not a one time thing with imus.

Sexy Jasper
04-13-2007, 04:47 PM
You'd have to prove it's meant in a race related way.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 04:57 PM
You'd have to prove it's meant in a race related way.

prove that it's not.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 05:17 PM
good question


their hair was nappy too :lmao:

what does nappy mean?

Sexy Jasper
04-13-2007, 05:20 PM
nap·py3 http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pnghttp://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fbrowse%2 Fnappy) /ˈnęphttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nap-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective, -pi·er, -pi·est. 1.covered with nap; downy. 2.(of hair) kinky.

WordNet (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/wn.html) - Cite This Source (http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=nappy&ia=wn) nappy
adjective1. (of hair) in small tight curls [syn: crisp (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crisp)]

Ultimate Fist
04-13-2007, 05:21 PM
prove that it's not.

No dis but bad debate tactic.

Prove there's not an invisible mystery god.

Sexy Jasper
04-13-2007, 05:21 PM
prove that it's not.
To me, everyone is innocent until proven guilty...

Presumption of innocence is a legal right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right) that the accused (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accused) in criminal trials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_trial) has in many modern nations. It states that no person shall be considered guilty until finally convicted by a court. The burden of proof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof) is thus on the prosecution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecution), which has to convince the court that the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In principle, the defense does not have to 'prove' anything. However, the defense may present evidence tending to show that there is a doubt as to the guilt of the accused.

Ultimate Fist
04-13-2007, 05:23 PM
I don't give a damn if some cracker that's on at 4Am in the morning is racist. Freedom of Speech, same as Khalid Muhammad and the crazy homeless dude who lives behind my apartment.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 05:27 PM
ummm, khalid didn't have freedom of speech, and freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say anything at any time.

as far as innocent until proven guilty....proven guilty by who? his peers? him and his peers think alike. he's been found guilty already.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 05:32 PM
kids going to jail is very serious

Black Man
04-13-2007, 05:49 PM
No dis but bad debate tactic.

Prove there's not an invisible mystery god.

i'm not debating.
this isn't about a mystery god.

Sexy Jasper
04-13-2007, 05:51 PM
ummm, khalid didn't have freedom of speech, and freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say anything at any time.

as far as innocent until proven guilty....proven guilty by who? his peers? him and his peers think alike. he's been found guilty already.It seems impossible to prove whether or not he meant it in a racist way, doesn't it? When you can't prove that, he's innocent.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 05:55 PM
It seems impossible to prove whether or not he meant it in a racist way, doesn't it? When you can't prove that, he's innocent.

it seems impossible to those who don't know what racism is, for those in the know, they know.

oh, and to go to some type of dictionary to find out what a word means, lets me know you're not qualified to make that judgement call. you're on the outside looking in.

btw, this thread is not about the imus character....

Sexy Jasper
04-13-2007, 06:00 PM
Racism simply is as it's described in the dictionary and that goes for any other word. And untill you can look in a mans mind, you're not qualified to make judgements and that means you're also on the outside.

Black Man
04-13-2007, 06:03 PM
Racism simply is as it's described in the dictionary and that goes for any other word. And untill you can look in a mans mind, you're not qualified to make judgements and that means you're also on the outside.

in which dictionary? there's different definitions in different dictionaries during different times.

don't need to look into a man's mind to see what there when that said person speaks his mind.

Sexy Jasper
04-13-2007, 06:10 PM
in which dictionary? there's different definitions in different dictionaries during different times.

don't need to look into a man's mind to see what there when that said person speaks his mind.
The most recent dictionary of course.

And yes, only Imus can judge if he was being racist. You can try all you want, but you won't get any further than voicing your opinion.

Dante
04-14-2007, 08:54 AM
If a black person said this about a white basketball team or whatever, would he get fired? Fuck no. All double standard bullshit.

THE W
04-14-2007, 10:15 AM
If a black person said this about a white basketball team or whatever, would he get fired? Fuck no. All double standard bullshit.
DING DING DING!!

if chris rock said this we'd all have a good laugh and go on with our lives afterward.