Acting black/Acting white

[Johnny 6-feet]

I've just seen a couple of threads in the lounge which have addressed this type of behaviour today and i'm curious to know what the members of this board think about it.

You see, i was under the impression (the mistaken impression it seems) that human beings were individuals who were capable of making their own choices about what they did with their lives. For example, a white person rapping/playing basketball/breakdancing is exercising his/her freedom of choice to take an interest in that music, sport or dance form and that a black person who sings in a punk band/plays ice hockey/hits a mosh pit was exercising his/her freedom of choice to take an interest in that music, sport or dance form.

Ok, in plain english, i think that to label a type of behaviour as exclusively white/black/mexican/chinese/yiddish/jewish/blah is fucking retarded and that people in general (especially members of a 'wu tang' board, a group who show love to fans worldwide regardless of ethic or country of origin) shouldn't get caught up in that bullshit. But hey, that's just me.


Thoughts?

[Sexy Jasper]

When I read the first couple of lines of your post I knew I was going to agree with the rest of it as well. Not a lot of people think outside of this box.

[Dokuro]

i take part in all thouse things and for the most part i just gt back from a 8 day caping trip i am my own person and i dont care what people think of it the wildenes up here is great so what if poeple say im becoming more white every day

[Johnny 6-feet]

Thats fucked up^ The only way you could become 'more white everyday' would be to smear pale make up on your skin and spend all your sunlight hours in a cave.

[cap]

yeah i know what you mean man,just cause i like hip hop and do a lottle rapping myself people (who dont know me) just assume im some kind of wigger.
that really pisses me off,especially when they dont know shit about the kind of hip hop i listen to.

[Sleep Sinatra]

yea i agree wit u totally i mean shit im not even full black(1/2 hispanic) but beacuase i dont have a thick "ghetto" accent or becuase i tend 2 kick it wit mostly white or other biracial ppl other black ppl look at me as if i "try 2 act white" or even because i would rather listen 2 36 chambers then fuckin lil boosie or sum shit...i mean ppl say that theres no segragation in America but this is tha very deffenition of segragation nahmean?

[TUCO]

its stupid
if a white dude is on sum jaime kennedy shit...so what?
dont mean dude is tryna act black....if he did he would be reckless with cops, tryna sound real smart, etc

[morgan]

its your life live it however you want innit

[RADIOACTIVE MAN]

theres nothing like acting black or what,its all about who you are,what surroundings you grew up around and what state of mind you have in life period..too many ignorant fools these days on that shit,theres is an exception tho,especially if you are lust meng

[Prolifical ENG]

well I have a crew that a mix of stereotypical white to the max and black dudes with thick ghetto accents etc....and we roll deep like wool.

At the end of the day we are all having barbecued steak and potatoes with beer and watch football and baseball.

[Alcryt]

yeah i know what you mean man,just cause i like hip hop and do a lottle rapping myself people (who dont know me) just assume im some kind of wigger.
that really pisses me off,especially when they dont know shit about the kind of hip hop i listen to.

I get that too, loads of people coming up to me saying "yo homie whats up in the hood" and doing all that other stereotypical shit, thinkin im a wigger just cause i listen to hip hop, pisses me off to fuck.

[adedwutang]

depends where u are tho, see where im at, u dont really see color no more. we make jokes like yea wusup white boy, or here comes taco bell, and stupid shit like that. but everyone around knows what everyone else been through and what type of life it is. just bein from the neighborhood give u respect, but then ofcourse u got eccentric people, and other loud mother fuckers and thats where u get white black shit.
peace

[CherChezLaMarauder]

there's more to life than what the sorry media potrays. life is all about what's outside your front door, not what's displayed in the telelvision. stereotypes is pure ignorance in which nobody should be discouraged by. Just be you and disregard what anyone else says. That's the essence of freedom. Freedom is never having to say you're sorry and freedom is never having the obligation to give explanations. As long as you're comfortable under your own skin, you should never give 2 flying fucks what the next man thinks.

[TAURO]

The only people I view as trying to "act black" or white etc.. are the ones that try to ridicule their own race for what are percieved as their general interests because in their mind they believe that making fun of the popular activities of their race disassociates them, making them more accepted by black people, white etc...

example: A white guy makes fun of white people for listening to rock or country and watching programs like friends and sienfeld.

In the movie White boyz it shows a perfect example of this.

[11th Chamber]

its also about your surroundings. Me being white and hanging out with all black people, of course some the slang or whatever is going to rub off on you. And you act differently then the straight laced white people.

While i hang out with all black people, the people at my job are all white(the area im at is like 8 Mile in Detroit. One side of the tracks is the poor area, other side is the rich/upper-class area. I chill/spend most of my time in the poor area, but work in the rich/upper-class area)

[TAURO]

its also about your surroundings. Me being white and hanging out with all black people, of course some the slang or whatever is going to rub off on you. And you act differently then the straight laced white people.

This is true.

While i hang out with all black people, the people at my job are all white(the area im at is like 8 Mile in Detroit. One side of the tracks is the poor area, other side is the rich/upper-class area. I chill/spend most of my time in the poor area, but work in the rich/upper-class area)

But were do you live?

[Energy Turtle]

i never get why if a black man dresses cleanly, ie, tucks in shirt, wears a button up shirt, talks in a respectable manner, clean shaven etc... other black people accuse them of being white - like all black people are bums who dont shave and wear the same shit for a week ? and it shits me when if youre white and you wear jeans with a singlet with a tilted hat or whatever other white people say you acting black ... but you never see a white person saying to a black person 'oh you acting white' or a black person saying to a white person 'oh you acting black' ... if the person, black,white,latino,asian,arab doing whatever, aslong as its natural and not forced to be accepted, 99% of people dont see the colour of the skin, only the haters ...

[Z3RO]

For Me It's Like This:

Im Black, Listen To Rock,electric,hip Hop, And Techno Music,
I Don't Wear Big Ass Clothes, Hate Jordan Shoes, Don't
Watch B.e.t And Only Sleeps With White Girls.......

My Family Calls Me White All The Fucking Time. Just Because I'd
Rather Listen To Jimi Hendrix Over Gay Ass R .kelly Or Daft Punk
Over Jeezy, I Get Fucking Ridiculed...........and Still Don't Give A
Flying Fuck. It's Just Who I Am.

[Queen Of Poetry]

I get offended when someone says "acting black"..............what is that? And if a balck person is educated & speaks well, then they "act white"? I mean, so does "acting black" represent uneducated, ignorant? "Acting white" means educated, intellegent? Come on......................

[Sexy Jasper]

It means you need to throw some more spears and sip 40s on your porch more often.

[UNCLE RUCKUS]

I think its a stupid High School mentality that says you are of a particular group, but once people see youre 25-30 and still doing the same shit, wearing the same styles You are not part of a fad you are just being yourself. As long youre honest with yourself as to who you are then really thats all that matters, who gives a fuck what the next man thinks

[RAMESH]

it's a shame what this world is coming to
white kids walking around with baggy clothing listening to rap music i must say i don't agree with it
i can just imagine how your parents must feel

[Sexy Jasper]

it's a shame what this world is coming to
white kids walking around with baggy clothing listening to rap music i must say i don't agree with it
i can just imagine how your parents must feelYou just insulted 60 to 80 percent of the people on this forum.

[TAURO]

it's a shame what this world is coming to
white kids walking around with baggy clothing listening to rap music i must say i don't agree with it
i can just imagine how your parents must feel

Thats a fucked up way of thinking, hip hop doesn't see color, if you can't see that then you don't know shit about hip hop culture.

Also white people just like any other race can wear and listen to whatever the fuck they want to.

[RAMESH]

it's a joke
don't be so fragile

[TAURO]

it's a joke

If you say so.:{

[RAMESH]

there is some truth in it to an extent i do believe that most of you white cats don't belong here but i do aprove of a few

[Scáth Bán]

there is some truth in it to an extent i do believe that most of you white cats don't belong here but i do aprove of a few

There's truth in judging people you've never met in real life? You've met like .01% of the white population in your lifetime.

[RAMESH]

There's truth in judging people you've never met in real life? You've met like .01% of the white population in your lifetime.
there's truth in judging people? what are you trying to say?

[Scáth Bán]

there's truth in judging people? what are you trying to say?

You said that most "white cats" don't belong here. Why don't they belong here?

[RAMESH]

it's a tough one to answer, because they white

[MASTER PAI MEI]

This entire thread reeks of Dumb, Deaf & Blind

[RAMESH]

true i was just listening to next level busta & the white kid was listening to some busta rhymes & his parents were complaining
i supose some cats just don't have a sence of humour
i'm not really a funny guy but it couldn't of been that bad

[MASTER PAI MEI]

Not at all, I can detect sarcasm..but the entire subject is 85er

[Scáth Bán]

true i was just listening to next level busta & the white kid was listening to some busta rhymes & his parents were complaining
i supose some cats just don't have a sence of humour
i'm not really a funny guy but it couldn't of been that bad

All white people take everything very seriously.

[TAURO]

there is some truth in it to an extent i do believe that most of you white cats don't belong here but i do aprove of a few

You need to look at the flag in my avatar and do some homework, im not white. Your words do not affect me, I was speaking generally.

[RAMESH]

true there is sarcasim in there but that's part of the joke
reading the thread i read of a black guy that does what 'white guys' do
i also read of the general expectance of a black guy that doesn't shave & wear the same shit for a week anyway cats got some issues of how they fit in society & how society deems them i just had to lace 1 on them
truth is you must be true to yourself it doesn't matter what the next man thinks of you

[crass]

there is some truth in it to an extent i do believe that most of you white cats don't belong here but i do aprove of a few

how is this different from the president of a college telling black kids "most of you black kids don't belong here" or any other example.

break down the walls!

[MASTER PAI MEI]

truth is you must be true to yourself it doesn't matter what the next man thinks of you

WORDS OF WIZDOM

[RAMESH]

how is this different from the president of a college telling black kids "most of you black kids don't belong here" or any other example.

break down the walls!
i don't want to get banned from the site & i know if i push this it might just happen so let's just let it go

[Tetsuo]

Of course everyone is an individual in the end, yet at the same time most of us do want to identify ourselves with a certain Ethnic group to have a sense of identity. Being proud of who you are, for many people, has a lot to do with your cultural background: Black, Irish, Italian, Hispanic, or whatever. To understand your cultural background, means to understand your history, and to do that means to identify certain aspects of your people that are unique to it. I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.

When it comes to "acting White/Black" that's a very controversial subject. The world would be a much better place if we didn't attach these stigmas to different types of behavior, but it's obviously rooted in something historical -- in this case ultimately hatred, but nowadays something more complex.

When African-Americans were first brought to this country against their own will they had to find ways to preserve their identity in the face of unthinkable oppression. Ever since then they have had to endure segregation, abject poverty, racism, police brutality, etc. Similar to the Jews or any other people who have been subjected and maltreated, a common bond is formed among the survivors and that sense of brotherhood is passed down through generations.

What I'm trying to say is that African-Americans in this country have always defined themselves in their own terms in order to preserve what was theirs. This applies especially in music; if you look at Jazz, Rock, Hip-Hop, and most of American pop music, it has its roots in Black culture. Elvis, for instance, who is one of the most revered figures in music history, adopted a style of Blues. It can hardly be denied that American music in general has its origins in Blues, Gospel, and Jazz.

Is there anything wrong with Elvis, Eminem, or any other White artist influenced by primarily African-American styles of music and culture? No, not all (it's inevitable). Does Hip-Hop embrace people of all creeds? Yes. Does the media portray Hip-Hop in that light? No. The truth is everyone should be recognized as an individual, but when 50 Cent releases a video game where you can pretend you're him shooting cops and dealing drugs, they are shamelessly exploiting and promoting the ills of poor, inner-city Black neighborhoods. Not only are they exploiting these horrendous symptoms of poverty and oppression, but they are also commodifying it. A broader minded person dismisses these stereotypes, but an ignorant majority are going to identify 50 Cent and everything his image represents with Black people in general. The destructive power of these stereotypes can not be overlooked.

As I said before, there's nothing wrong with someone like Eminem. The reason I don't think Em is trying to be someone he's not is because he doesn't embody negative stereotypes. He destroys stereotypes by proving that Hip-Hop culture is not exclusively Black. I have no problem with him.

What I do have a problem with is this kid:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r97/ob4cl84/l_40850491b9373e6a9b9286e3bd4181fc.jpg

Now do I look at this kid and think, "he's acting Black"? No, I look at him posing with his Bee-bee gun, using the word "nigga" profusely, his G-Unit layout, the red bandana wrapped around his head, and I think, "wow, he really thinks that this is the way Black people are". He needs to model himself on inaccurate approximations of Black culture that he sees in music videos on BET and MTV to make up for the fact he has a complete lack of identity and sense of belonging.

Now ask yourself is there a difference between Eminem and this buffoon?

[crass]

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r97/ob4cl84/l_40850491b9373e6a9b9286e3bd4181fc.jpg
hhahaha, this kid again!!! someone give me the link to his myspace so i can see his ridiculous pics again.

[SHRAP]

associating a behavior with a race is racist in itself

even if u were 2 say that jamal from house party 2 acts like a black person, your words are implying that all black people act that way

example

not all white dudes like skinny blonde bitches

not all black dudes like big booty bitches

if u say a white dude is actin black cuz he likes big booty u are making an ignorant and racist statement

this is 2007 get wit the program

[RAMESH]

if i should be banned from the site so be it
in my heart i hate white people i'm consumed with hate
your people took evrything from me i have out lived my entire family & i had to raise myself & i hate all of you for it for the life i had to live & for the things i had to do to survive
i might get on with ya'll but i will always have that resentment for you inside of me i don't like being like that but i can't help how i feel

[Scáth Bán]

if i should be banned from the site so be it
in my heart i hate white people i'm consumed with hate
your people took evrything from me i have out lived my entire family & i had to raise myself & i hate all of you for it for the life i had to live & for the things i had to do to survive
i might get on with ya'll but i will always have that resentment for you inside of me i don't like being like that but i can't help how i feel

Get those white devils.

[urban_angel]

i agree with you Johnny. A person has to be true to themselves, and which ever way they choose to express that is just them.

[TAURO]

Ramesh you're from south africa so I don't really blame you for the way you feel, if I lived there I would probably hate white people too.

[Scáth Bán]

Ramesh you're from south africa so I don't really blame you for the way you feel, if I lived there I would probably hate white people too.

It's understandable but there's no justification for him to hate all white people. It seems like he understands he's being unreasonable, but feels he has the right to hate all white people.

[TAURO]

It's understandable but there's no justification for him to hate all white people. It seems like he understands he's being unreasonable, but feels he has the right to hate all white people.

I know Ramesh making a general statement towards all white people is ignorant but I doubt he has ever left africa so arguing with him about this would be pointless because he wouldn't understand.

[Scáth Bán]

I know Ramesh making a general statement towards all white people is ignorant but I doubt he has ever left africa so arguing with him about this would be pointless because he wouldn't understand.

I think he's intelligent but stubborn. But you're right, he's probably got evil white people in his area and has never been able to encounter other whites of other countries.

[Ultimate Fist]

if i should be banned from the site so be it
in my heart i hate white people i'm consumed with hate
your people took evrything from me i have out lived my entire family & i had to raise myself & i hate all of you for it for the life i had to live & for the things i had to do to survive
i might get on with ya'll but i will always have that resentment for you inside of me i don't like being like that but i can't help how i feel

As long as you don't act on that hate, it's alright. It's part of being human. i hate some of the religious groups here in the USA because they have mistreated me and what they have done is not nearly as bad as what white people did South Africa. The important thing is not to hurt others physically or even verbally. Otherwise, hate will just keep going around.