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SID
05-28-2007, 02:07 PM
yo iam gonna buy one of those ILL sony vaio AR series laptops on the weekend, its got a nvidia geforce go 7600 GPU...anyone here who plays games on there laptops on a regs? give me some advice on the best performance GPUs for laptops.....any any good desktop computers for gaming


peace

Bloo
05-29-2007, 02:31 AM
Ahhh... one of my fav subjects as of late :)

I've been doing a lot of research as of late to find what's hot in the graphics arena. As for the 7600 in that vaio, that's pretty hot. Still a very good chipset. You'll basically be running one of these in your system

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-143-087-03.jpg

I recently put together a new rig mainly built for gaming, started a thread about it a while ago. Ended up getting myself a Geforce 8800GTS, man that bad boy can murder framerates like no thang.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-143-081-03.jpg
And it's sexy too :)

In an effort to compete with Nivdia's 8800 line, ATI has released their DirectX 10 card, the Radeon HD 2900 XT.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-195-044-03.jpg

Nvidia, seeing this comming decided to release the big mama of graphics cards, ATI's shit can't even hold a torch. The Geforce 8800 Ultra.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-143-107-03.jpg

You've got to be serious about your craft for these motherfuckers. Have a deep wallet and a even deeper computer case as these cards go for between $750-800 USD and are about 10.5 inches long (That's 26.67cm for all your UK kids)

There are also lower end cards in the Geforce 8 and Radeon 2000 family. For those of you who want DirectX 10 capabilites but don't wanna throw 4 bills away.

But if you ain't the do it yourself kind of person and rather just buy a kick ass rig to play on. There's always Dell, Alienware and Voodoo computers.

I'm not a big fan of Dells, but their XPS line of game computers seems like a decent investment.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/05/xps_720_h2c-(2).jpg
That's the XPS 720 H2C, pretty much the last computer you'll ever need. It's got enough power in it to take over a small third world country. It's running a Nvidia nForce 680i motherboard (very good I must say, I'm using one of those myself) and a liquid cooled Core 2 Extreme Quad overclocked at 3.46GHz, giving you a combined total of 13.84GHz processing speed. 2GB of Corsair Dominator DDR2 RAM. A 1000 Watt power supply, Blu-Ray drive, and the Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX and a PhysX physics card. And all this can be yours for the new low price of $5,999!!!

Then of course there's Alienware
http://www.hi-news.ru/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Alienware%202%20new%20desktops.jpg
The Area-51 ALX. Pretty much the same specs as the Dell setup but with a lot nicer of a display. And a tad cheaper at only $5,250.

Or, if you're a high rollin as nigga. You can get yourself a Voodoo Omen.
http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2006/2074/voodoo_omen_1.jpg
Now what I like about Voodoo's computers is they're not overly flashy. Yet at the same time very sexy. You can get these things customized like crazy with over 20 different colors and tattoos. But outside of that they are very expensive. Especially with the customizing options. Out of curiosity I went to their website and pimped out an Omen with the most expensive paint job, tattoos, and componets and the system came out to just under $20,000 before the $550 shipping and handling charge. Now of course no one in their right mind would do that unless they were Puffy, but even getting a system around the same specs as the Dell and Alienware setup is still gonna run you over $6,000.

I personally would just put together my own system. In reality it's cheaper than buying one flat out cause you can bargan each piece of it and get it for as low as possible.

Bloo
05-29-2007, 02:55 AM
And for all you console heads out there. Here's a little cap on the GPUs running in todays systems.

The Xbox 360's Xenos GPU is produced by ATI. And is pretty much the equivalent to a Radeon HD 2400 XT.
http://www.guru3d.com/admin/imageview.php?image=10137

The PS3's RSX "Reality Synthesizer" GPU is produced by Nvidia and about the equivilent of a Geforce 7800, with a 512MB of RAM and running at 500MHz

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-130-048-03.jpg

And finally, the Wii's "Hollywood" GPU is produced by ATI and is about the equivilent to a.... hell, really ain't one. It's pretty much a little more powerful than whatever the fastest DirectX 8 card could do.

SID
05-29-2007, 06:04 AM
yo thanks for that bloo!!!!!!, another thing i was looking for a list or something that would show what pc games are compatable with the specified GPU!!!, if you know of such a thing it would be much appreciated


peace

Frontal Lobotomy
05-29-2007, 06:12 AM
We use inches in the UK, its europe thats all metric hmph. Those cards look pretty sweet, I'm gonna have a crack at building myself a laptop over the summer and will be looking into which card will be the best for the money.
Those Alienware systems look sweet, but they want the shirt off your back. Those voodoo ones look like they don't just want the shirt, but to give you a bully ramming as well.

num2son
05-29-2007, 09:08 AM
Those look real nice, even though I am still using a All-in-Wonder 9000

Bloo
05-29-2007, 11:29 AM
yo thanks for that bloo!!!!!!, another thing i was looking for a list or something that would show what pc games are compatable with the specified GPU!!!, if you know of such a thing it would be much appreciated


peace

It's not so much a thing about which GPU is compattable. But what the GPU is cappable of rendering. For instance...

Today's top of the line GPUs are cappable of running DirectX 10 and Open GL 2.0 applications. What that means is any game programmed in DX10 or OGL 2.0 will be rendered in full detail. I'll show you what I mean.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/BlooHook/TRDX8.jpg
Tomb Raider in Direct X 8 mode

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/BlooHook/TRDX9.jpg
Tomb Raider in Dirext X 9 mode

Notice the added detail and lighting effects in the Direct X 9 screenshot.

SID
05-29-2007, 12:16 PM
4 reals...iam gonna go ahead and get this laptop...the reviews for the 7600 have been pretty good....one more thing do you think i can play supreme commander nicely on it?

Bloo
05-29-2007, 06:00 PM
A 7600 should run the game just fine. The minimmum requirements in terms of video is a DirectX 9 card and 128 megs of Video RAM. Most of the 7600 series of cards comes standard with 256 megs so you should be able to run it with most if not all detail enabled.

Wu-Tality
05-30-2007, 04:03 AM
Santa Rosa platform nearly out though, it's the sucessor of the current notebook platform.

Usually I go to www.notebookreview.com (http://www.notebookreview.com) for reviews/advice (forums). HP Pavillion and Asus seem to deliver.

SID
05-30-2007, 06:11 AM
A 7600 should run the game just fine. The minimmum requirements in terms of video is a DirectX 9 card and 128 megs of Video RAM. Most of the 7600 series of cards comes standard with 256 megs so you should be able to run it with most if not all detail enabled.

thanks for yor help bloo!, the other one i could get is a 7600 gt, is there a major difference between the standard 7600 and 7600 GT?

Bloo
05-30-2007, 11:46 AM
Santa Rosa platform nearly out though, it's the sucessor of the current notebook platform.

Usually I go to www.notebookreview.com (http://www.notebookreview.com) for reviews/advice (forums). HP Pavillion and Asus seem to deliver.

Yeah, they are fairly good companies in terms of laptops. I really wish I could have more first hand knowledge but I don't usually mess with laptops.

thanks for yor help bloo!, the other one i could get is a 7600 gt, is there a major difference between the standard 7600 and 7600 GT?

There are some differences definately, Mainly that the GT is a bit faster. I found this info describing the differences.

Geforce 7600 GS Specs
PCIe native, but AGP 8x cards are also available
400 MHz Core frequency
128-bit memory interface
12.8 GB/s memory bandwidth
3.2 billion pixel/s fill rate
4.8 billion texel/s fill rate
500 million vertice/s

Geforce 7600 GT Specs
PCIe native, but AGP 8x cards are also available
560 MHz core frequency
128-bit memory interface
22.4 GB/s memory bandwidth
4.48 Billion pixel/s fill rate
6.72 Billion texel/s fill rate
700 Million vertice/s
SLI Support
12 pixels per cycle
Built in dual-link DVI support for 2560x1600 resolution

As you can see, the differences are distinct. The GT's clock speed is 160 MHz faster. Almost double the memory bandwidth, etc. Definately an improvement in terms of performance. All this means is that your framerate probably won't be as smooth in some games if you're running in higher resolutions with full detail.

SID
05-31-2007, 06:32 AM
peace bloo...thanks for the info

SID
06-15-2007, 06:05 AM
yo i just got my 24' G5 IMAC its a powerfull lil baby equpped with a 7300 GT...is that a really wack card? i heard its not that bad?

SID
06-15-2007, 06:07 AM
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Inspectah_Dirk
06-15-2007, 01:45 PM
I just bought a new laptop..not so much for gaming tho.
It holds an Nvidia GeForce Go 7300..not that good for gaming..it has 128 mb of memory..but that's not always a good standard. It's about the chip and all ofcourse. And it has up to 400 mb of turbocache..but that's just some bullshit i always say.

I'll try out to run WoW in this thing tonight. It has a dual-core processor running at 1.73 Ghz each, and with 2gb ddr2 ram.

We'll see.. :D

Bloo
06-17-2007, 10:15 PM
As I'm sure you've found already, WoW shouldn't be much of an issue at all. The video RAM is a little lacking for a game of that calibur but the overall system RAM and CPU should help to pick up the slack.

Bloo
06-17-2007, 10:19 PM
yo i just got my 24' G5 IMAC its a powerfull lil baby equpped with a 7300 GT...is that a really wack card? i heard its not that bad?

No, not at all. The Geforce 7 series is still relevant. Most manufacturers still include those cards in modern systems because they're cheap HD cards. Don't expect a lot of performance in terms of running games in full detail with hi-res, but you still stompin with the big dogs.