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Scth Bn
05-29-2007, 10:36 PM
Haven't watched it yet.


Interview

http://sunetesubsol.net/v4/30-05-2007:50-talks-to-krs-one-marley-marl-on-rap-city




Freestyle

http://sunetesubsol.net/v4/30-05-2007:krs-one-marley-marl-rap-city-freestyle


Delete this if it's already been posted.

11th Chamber
05-29-2007, 10:54 PM
thx for postin this, been wantin to see it.

Crazy to see 50 and KRS together. Can tell they both got respect for each other

crust
05-29-2007, 11:11 PM
KRS-One freestyle!!!!!

madd tight!

TAURO
05-29-2007, 11:21 PM
WTF is this?

I understand that 50 grew up listening to the same dope music that we listen and still listen to, but Krs 1 and Marly Marl shaking hands and giving props to someone who has clearly been the heart of a lot of the bullshit in hip hop now, not to mention the almost destructive comercialisation and exploitation that 50 brought to hip hop, it boggles the mind why these two pioneers would blatently contradict all the shit they have said (more in Krs 1's case) and quite frankly sleep with the enemy. I know that Krs has been known to contradict himself alot in the past which is why I have never liked him all that much, but this to me is out right disgusting and I have seriously lost a lot of respect for him.

Edgar Erebus
05-30-2007, 03:35 AM
^^ Co-fuckin-sign

I was already a bit suspicious when I realized that he rolls with Diddy, but this is too much. Teacher, I'm disappointed.

Edgar Erebus
05-30-2007, 03:38 AM
One more question: is this the same KRS-One that dropped "P is Free"? Cause it definitely ain't same voice, except if he got a throat cancer.

Durag
05-30-2007, 06:23 AM
WTF is this?

I understand that 50 grew up listening to the same dope music that we listen and still listen to, but Krs 1 and Marly Marl shaking hands and giving props to someone who has clearly been the heart of a lot of the bullshit in hip hop now, not to mention the almost destructive comercialisation and exploitation that 50 brought to hip hop, it boggles the mind why these two pioneers would blatently contradict all the shit they have said (more in Krs 1's case) and quite frankly sleep with the enemy. I know that Krs has been known to contradict himself alot in the past which is why I have never liked him all that much, but this to me is out right disgusting and I have seriously lost a lot of respect for him.

Co-fucking sign. Fuck KRS and Marley Marl, is everyone just gonna bow down to 50 cent or something? What are they afraid hes gonna diss them or something? Fuck that if there was one person everyone could look at and prove to them that the hop-hop that lived when KRS and Marley Marl were at their peak is dead its 50. Hes the personification of all the commercialisation, dumbing down, fuckin everything thats wrong with hip hop now. And they just give into him. Fuck that.

Jeru
05-30-2007, 06:47 AM
I don't understand the hate...This is one of the greatest artists in hiphop ever and you're hatin on him cuz he's sittin down with pupils and talking to them.I mean, it's good to see him do that and it's good to see 50 actually respect someone.

morgan
05-30-2007, 07:00 AM
Hip hop has been commercialised way way way before 50 stepped up. You are not right in the head if you think it wasnt P Diddly who destroyed it after 96/97

Bigot Hitman
05-30-2007, 07:13 AM
OMG, just because something is change'in doesn't mean its being destroyed, all shit changes for better or worse, sum people like this new hip hop, sum people hate this new shit, but don't try to say the old shit is dead, its just not on the mainstream level anymore cuz its not profitable anymore.

Jamal Noor
05-30-2007, 07:19 AM
I don't understand the hate...This is one of the greatest artists in hiphop ever and you're hatin on him cuz he's sittin down with pupils and talking to them.I mean, it's good to see him do that and it's good to see 50 actually respect someone.


word

and 50 looked humbled to be amongst some true legends

thats rare

TAURO
05-30-2007, 07:23 AM
I don't understand the hate...This is one of the greatest artists in hiphop ever and you're hatin on him cuz he's sittin down with pupils and talking to them.I mean, it's good to see him do that and it's good to see 50 actually respect someone.

50 only respects one person and that's 50, don't be fooled by what you see in the vid, he's doing that for the cameras, deep down I know 50 don't give a shit about them and thinks of them as has beens.

Hip hop has been commercialised way way way before 50 stepped up. You are not right in the head if you think it wasnt P Diddly who destroyed it after 96/97

No-one said he started comercialising hip hop, I said he was at the heart of it, 50 has managed to take hip hop to the next level of comercialisation and currently leads the pack with his watered down garbage.

I want to make it clear that I am not a "hater", I own a couple of 50 cent cd's, no one can say I never gave the guy a chance, his music unfortunatley lacks substance, it holds no weight and has no lasting appeal.

Jeru
05-30-2007, 07:28 AM
Becuz you don't like his music ( I'm one of those many LOL ) doesn't mean someone whose music you do like can't sit down with them and talk.No matter what topic matter his music has, I think 50 has respect for the people that paved the way for hiphop.

And to that dude that said fuck KRS and Marley...you need to seriously hangup hiphopmusic.They do 1 thing you don't like and it's fuck 'em?It's not like they're signing to G-Unit.I can't stand the fact that OB4CL2 is being partially handled by Dr Dre but I'm not gonna say fuck Raekwon cuz he's doing something he feels is right.

full_clip
05-30-2007, 08:06 AM
Becuz you don't like his music ( I'm one of those many LOL ) doesn't mean someone whose music you do like can't sit down with them and talk.No matter what topic matter his music has, I think 50 has respect for the people that paved the way for hiphop.

And to that dude that said fuck KRS and Marley...you need to seriously hangup hiphopmusic.They do 1 thing you don't like and it's fuck 'em?It's not like they're signing to G-Unit.I can't stand the fact that OB4CL2 is being partially handled by Dr Dre but I'm not gonna say fuck Raekwon cuz he's doing something he feels is right.

co-sign.

i totally agree. I mean, i dont like 50's music at all, and that he's sooo fucking commercial either, but i really think i he got respect for the older gods, kane, krs and so on.., i mean, they build hiphop up.., he wouldnt even know how to use a MPC, if they wouldn't excist..

btw: krs kicks ass in that freestyle right there aight..

also, HIP HOP LIVES IS A FUCKING BOMB..damn, the lyrics is tight, and krs just spits fire..

Scribbles
05-30-2007, 08:40 AM
WoW This shit is tight.....

Greek Gheynician Anal Tradition
05-30-2007, 08:46 AM
WTF is this?

I understand that 50 grew up listening to the same dope music that we listen and still listen to, but Krs 1 and Marly Marl shaking hands and giving props to someone who has clearly been the heart of a lot of the bullshit in hip hop now, not to mention the almost destructive comercialisation and exploitation that 50 brought to hip hop, it boggles the mind why these two pioneers would blatently contradict all the shit they have said (more in Krs 1's case) and quite frankly sleep with the enemy. I know that Krs has been known to contradict himself alot in the past which is why I have never liked him all that much, but this to me is out right disgusting and I have seriously lost a lot of respect for him.

co sign

WuGambino
05-30-2007, 09:27 AM
G-Unit: Guide us Not Into Temptation


lol... KRS... what happened?

J.T.S.
05-30-2007, 11:30 AM
G-Unit: Guide us Not Into Temptation


lol... KRS... what happened?

A paycheck..that's what happened!

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 11:41 AM
thanks Scth Bn!

11th Chamber
05-30-2007, 12:26 PM
Lol at all the idiots in this thread. Seriously...can the two not sit down and talk? You guys make it look like 50 is Hitler or somthin

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 12:27 PM
how can people hate 50 Cent so much have you heard Fully Loaded Clip or Ski Mask Way or In Da Club wtf are people smoking? Its like he molested your kid or some shit the hate is ridiculous!

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 12:28 PM
Lol at all the idiots in this thread. Seriously...can the two not sit down and talk? You guys make it look like 50 is Hitler or somthin

I know they hate him more than Hitler jeolousy man

TAURO
05-30-2007, 12:30 PM
Lol at all the idiots in this thread. Seriously...can the two not sit down and talk? You guys make it look like 50 is Hitler or somthin


They weren't just talking, they were sucking each others dicks.

Wu-Tality
05-30-2007, 12:30 PM
First I agreed with Tauro, before watching the videos. After watching the videos I can say this is just a step in the right direction. Ofcourse us "older" HipHop heads will always prefer KRS over 50(like they said in the vids), but for the younger kids out there, this is what they can relate to.

Even though I have to admit that the level of lyricism has dropped to a lower level, this is what kids like (you can also see this in the cartoons of today). I have to say that when I was a kid I only understood half the shit and stayed with HipHop after understanding more and more of my favourite tracks.

So, these popular tracks from the popular artists of that time had good substance (incidentally). All what the kids have to do when they older is dig deeper for other artists or 50 has to come out with lyrically and substantially better albums to keep HipHop alive for the older audience.

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 12:30 PM
Tauro, they were talking like men do cmon thats not gay!

chiba
05-30-2007, 12:31 PM
WTF is this?

I understand that 50 grew up listening to the same dope music that we listen and still listen to, but Krs 1 and Marly Marl shaking hands and giving props to someone who has clearly been the heart of a lot of the bullshit in hip hop now, not to mention the almost destructive comercialisation and exploitation that 50 brought to hip hop, it boggles the mind why these two pioneers would blatently contradict all the shit they have said (more in Krs 1's case) and quite frankly sleep with the enemy. I know that Krs has been known to contradict himself alot in the past which is why I have never liked him all that much, but this to me is out right disgusting and I have seriously lost a lot of respect for him.


:mmmyah:

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 12:32 PM
nah there is no problem right now

TAURO
05-30-2007, 12:34 PM
Tauro, they were talking like men do cmon thats not gay!

I get why 50 would give props to Krs, it goes without saying but c'mon man, Krs trying to justify 50's music was just plain fucking disgusting and completley contradicts his statements of bringing hip hop back.

11th Chamber
05-30-2007, 12:39 PM
I get why 50 would give props to Krs, it goes without saying but c'mon man, Krs trying to justify 50's music was just plain fucking disgusting and completley contradicts his statements of bringing hip hop back.

50 HAS BEEN hip-hop in the 2000's. And KRS understands that.

Are we watchin the same video? I see two dudes showin respect to each other, you see two dudes jacking each other off...

TAURO
05-30-2007, 12:47 PM
50 HAS BEEN hip-hop in the 2000's. And KRS understands that.

Are we watchin the same video? I see two dudes showin respect to each other, you see two dudes jacking each other off...

You're missing the point, right now hip hop is at an all time low, most people and this includes some rappers, journalists and fans have been talking about the poor state of hip hop right now. 50 is at the top currently, coincidence? I don't think so, he might not be the only person to point the finger at but he sure as hell is one of those responsible. Krs has been going on alot about bringing that real hip hop back, bringing it to that real shit, if he thinks that 50 is a good example of hip hop then why talk about the poor state of hip hop now when 50 is currently at the top?......fucking double standards thats what.

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 12:49 PM
I get why 50 would give props to Krs, it goes without saying but c'mon man, Krs trying to justify 50's music was just plain fucking disgusting and completley contradicts his statements of bringing hip hop back.

why do you not like 50 Cent for what I dont get it though man

TAURO
05-30-2007, 12:50 PM
why do you not like 50 Cent for what I dont get it though man

don't understand your question dude.

J.T.S.
05-30-2007, 12:50 PM
You could look at Krs-one's face and tell he wasn't really with the whole
thing, it was like his heart wasn't even in it.
I mean c'mon man this guy made a song called "Amusement Park" how much wackness can this guy bring to the game, his albums something i would use to gut blunts on. I'm just saying i wouldn't be building with someone this wack!

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 12:56 PM
Tauro I just dont understand why people HATE him you know what Im saying yeah he could be wack and you (as in vosotros) dont like the subject matter but its silly to hate him thats what Im saying yo

TAURO
05-30-2007, 01:02 PM
Tauro I just dont understand why people HATE him you know what Im saying yeah he could be wack and you (as in vosotros) dont like the subject matter but its silly to hate him thats what Im saying yo

I don't hate 50, I actually like some of his music, I can dance to his shit. What bothers me about 50 is that he has no diversity, he's strictly 2d, a cartoon, absolutley no life to him whatsoever. I really enjoyed get rich or die trying and guess who's back is a great underground album, but the problem is that 50 just can't tell his shit in a creative manner, he just follows the same formula, and that to me is bullshit.

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 01:19 PM
I don't hate 50, I actually like some of his music, I can dance to his shit. What bothers me about 50 is that he has no diversity, he's strictly 2d, a cartoon, absolutley no life to him whatsoever. I really enjoyed get rich or die trying and guess who's back is a great underground album, but the problem is that 50 just can't tell his shit in a creative manner, he just follows the same formula, and that to me is bullshit.

okay yeah I agree with you so, but i saw this as a positive thing for him to do and he honestly came across sincere for on that video

11th Chamber
05-30-2007, 01:20 PM
but to say one person has ruined hip hop, when he hasent even had an album out in 2 years is kinda ridiculous

TAURO
05-30-2007, 01:22 PM
but to say one person has ruined hip hop, when he hasent even had an album out in 2 years is kinda ridiculous

Who has said that? have I said that? please point it out to me because im sure I didn't say it.

maestro wooz
05-30-2007, 01:41 PM
50 aint whats wrong with hip hop, chumps like 50 have been selling millions of records through the mainstream for damn near 20 years. 50 is the wack commercialism thats been around forever. So yeah hes a fuckup, but he aint enemy number 1.

krs is doing this for publicity, hes got an album coming(came?) out and hes making an appearance on rap city. We'd all be creaming ourselves if rae could get on rap city, its just that it looks like 50 was hosting it that day. KRS aint even gettin too friendly with 50, ive heard him say that "passing the hip hop torch" line about 3 times before, it aint something specific to 50. Look at the way 50 is looking for krs' approval with the way he says things. Its all good homies, krs doesnt need to start shit with 50 cent to prove a point.

OTB
05-30-2007, 02:03 PM
nice post wooz^^
best post of the thread so far.

see, this iz why krs iz so dope-
he comez on rap city once every 5-10 yrz and headz start talkin-
either headz catch feelingz for some reazon and call him a hypocrite,
or they jump in and defend the god like i'm doin right now-

keep teachin krs!
the culture needz philosopherz like krs, chuck, technique, rakim and wu-
'hip hop livez' iz dope-
hope krs makes albumz and tourz til he diez of old age-

DR. NICK RIVIERA
05-30-2007, 02:25 PM
Hip hop has been commercialised way way way before 50 stepped up. You are not right in the head if you think it wasnt P Diddly who destroyed it after 96/97

the strongest comment in this thread yet...Puff fucked most things you can fuck up in this biz

RADIOACTIVE MAN
05-30-2007, 02:34 PM
i dont see anything wrong with this,i actually have a bit of more respect for 50 seeing him showing love to the legends like that...atleast he hasnt forgotten where what he is doing originated from...its better 50cent than lil John or the franchise boyz,now that would have pissed me the fuck off

RADIOACTIVE MAN
05-30-2007, 02:38 PM
I get why 50 would give props to Krs, it goes without saying but c'mon man, Krs trying to justify 50's music was just plain fucking disgusting and completley contradicts his statements of bringing hip hop back.

i will definately agree with this tho

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 02:38 PM
i dont see anything wrong with this,i actually have a bit of more respect for 50 seeing him showing love to the legends like that...atleast he hasnt forgotten where what he is doing originated from...its better 50cent than lil John or the franchise boyz,now that would have pissed me the fuck off
exactly thank you! no one can say 50 isnt hiphop Dem Franchise Boys i cant say the same for

OTB
05-30-2007, 02:43 PM
KRS-ONE/Marley Marl
"HIP-HOP LIVES"
in storez now!

top album of the year so far.

rek357
05-30-2007, 02:44 PM
You're missing the point, right now hip hop is at an all time low, most people and this includes some rappers, journalists and fans have been talking about the poor state of hip hop right now. 50 is at the top currently, coincidence? I don't think so, he might not be the only person to point the finger at but he sure as hell is one of those responsible. Krs has been going on alot about bringing that real hip hop back, bringing it to that real shit, if he thinks that 50 is a good example of hip hop then why talk about the poor state of hip hop now when 50 is currently at the top?......fucking double standards thats what.

so ud rather have the down south bling bling crap rap and that p diddy dancin music BS that even biggie was doin before he got popped? i remember that shit was years before fifty topped the charts, personally id rather be hearin 50 than anything that has pdiddy on it.

rap has been goin downhill since like 99 50 wasnt top dude then at all.

ShaolinDarts
05-30-2007, 02:49 PM
You're missing the point, right now hip hop is at an all time low, most people and this includes some rappers, journalists and fans have been talking about the poor state of hip hop right now. 50 is at the top currently, coincidence? I don't think so, he might not be the only person to point the finger at but he sure as hell is one of those responsible

Why do people always blame the artist? I think you have an unrealistic view of society. Simple Fact: people buy what they like.

50 cent is popular because people like his music. Its not him thats forcing music on people but people that are creating a demand so strong thats forcing hip hop to create the current state of its music.

No one is to blame as people are doing what they have a right to, i.e. buy what they like and want to buy. I quite envy 50 cent fans - atleast they get music they like. Us Wu fans just either get garbage or stupid release dates that pass by with no product.

CORE

Jeru
05-30-2007, 02:53 PM
Why do people always blame the artist? I think you have an unrealistic view of society. Simple Fact: people buy what they like.

50 cent is popular because people like his music. Its not him thats forcing music on people but people that are creating a demand so strong thats forcing hip hop to create the current state of its music.

No one is to blame as people are doing what they have a right to, i.e. buy what they like and want to buy. I quite envy 50 cent fans - atleast they get music they like. Us Wu fans just either get garbage or stupid release dates that pass by with no product.

CORE


New best reply in thread.

rek357
05-30-2007, 02:59 PM
Us Wu fans just either get garbage or stupid release dates that pass by with no product.


i feel u wu as whole just been slackin man, i used to be the biggest wu fan, had albums posters shirts u name it, now its like i can rely on ghostface and thats it.

most affiliates are sub par at best, a few are above average, but they are on some wisdom god body shit i could care less about.

Razorsharp
05-30-2007, 04:54 PM
havent watched it yet... but i would also question why they are so willingly to sit down with someone who has destroyed what they built to make booty music... but... this will never make me lose respect for the pioneers, as long as they dont join g-unit...

SMH @ LL Cool J

-__-

Cesar
05-30-2007, 06:18 PM
Ya love to over look what Cash Money Records started back in 98, more specifically what the 1999 song "Bling Bling" did. That was the decline started, thats was when you started to hear more non sence like that.

mega22
05-30-2007, 07:29 PM
did you catch how krs 0ne said at the end of the freestyle "g-unit guide us not into temptation" that right there was a strong message to 50 and if 50 did'nt respect them they would not of been on the show with him

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-30-2007, 08:40 PM
did you catch how krs 0ne said at the end of the freestyle "g-unit guide us not into temptation" that right there was a strong message to 50 and if 50 did'nt respect them they would not of been on the show with him

thats funny, i didnt hear that yet

TGambino
05-31-2007, 01:30 AM
WTF is this?

I understand that 50 grew up listening to the same dope music that we listen and still listen to, but Krs 1 and Marly Marl shaking hands and giving props to someone who has clearly been the heart of a lot of the bullshit in hip hop now, not to mention the almost destructive comercialisation and exploitation that 50 brought to hip hop, it boggles the mind why these two pioneers would blatently contradict all the shit they have said (more in Krs 1's case) and quite frankly sleep with the enemy. I know that Krs has been known to contradict himself alot in the past which is why I have never liked him all that much, but this to me is out right disgusting and I have seriously lost a lot of respect for him.
because not everyone is a dumbass who thinks 50 Cent and cries about him all day lmao

Edgar Erebus
05-31-2007, 02:23 AM
Yo y'all are missing the point. In the fact an old vet sat with currently top artist ain't nothing wrong. The problem is in what KRS and 50 represent in rap. Those who buy 50's discs en masse are mostly 10 year olds (remember that thread of mine with comments like "50 u so hot do u have a girlfriend"), so they are who give 50 that multi-platinum sales. And they buy him cause 50 has mostly brainless lyrics, which have though references on guns, drugs, alcohol and sex so the kid who is listening to shit is feeling grown up ("Woo-hoo, look at me, I bang 50, I'm so gangsta").

On the other side, KRS claims he is hip-hop from head to toes since 1987. Poetry, Still #1, MC's Act Like They Don't Know and so on and so on. In his every fucking interview he mentions at least once how there are some rappers that are all bout money and ain't hip-hop. When Nelly dared to claim he's #1 in 2002, how much time did it pass till KRS dissed him, of course, with an attack like "You ain't hiphop, you just a wack bubblegum rapper".

And now we see him shaking hands with another bubblegum rapper and talking how his music is real hiphop.

Get the symbolic?

EDIT: Plus I don't hate 50, at the moment I'm writing this I'm listening to 50's verse on Shot Down by DMX.

full_clip
05-31-2007, 03:08 AM
i will definately agree with this tho

damn guys..read over the thread...its like every post has been repeated 3 times..lol

so, i think..krs isn't much a fan of 50 or his music, but he recognizes that 50 ruled somehow the world of hiphop for the last years.., i know, its sad, but it is that way.., and as he said..the older gods now got to get up and take care of business. i love krs...he is a legend man..peace

-IrOnBuLL-
05-31-2007, 08:37 AM
as i read all the postz here
it seemed that most people
dont want hip hop to be in unity
like it waz back in the day
in the case where 50 and KRS are talkin to eachother
it jus another positive step for hip hop
bein on the road to unity

Shaolin Bloody Sword
05-31-2007, 08:47 AM
This thread is childish ! Them being on Rap City has a hint message behind it. We all know that KRS will never do a track with 50. Since 50 is commercial, it doesn't mean they should be enemies & never approach each other. They are different musically & have a different fanbase. All this hate & lost of respect for KRS i'm seeing here. is stupid ! Krs is still the same & hasn't changed .

TAURO
05-31-2007, 09:15 AM
Yo y'all are missing the point. In the fact an old vet sat with currently top artist ain't nothing wrong. The problem is in what KRS and 50 represent in rap. Those who buy 50's discs en masse are mostly 10 year olds (remember that thread of mine with comments like "50 u so hot do u have a girlfriend"), so they are who give 50 that multi-platinum sales. And they buy him cause 50 has mostly brainless lyrics, which have though references on guns, drugs, alcohol and sex so the kid who is listening to shit is feeling grown up ("Woo-hoo, look at me, I bang 50, I'm so gangsta").

On the other side, KRS claims he is hip-hop from head to toes since 1987. Poetry, Still #1, MC's Act Like They Don't Know and so on and so on. In his every fucking interview he mentions at least once how there are some rappers that are all bout money and ain't hip-hop. When Nelly dared to claim he's #1 in 2002, how much time did it pass till KRS dissed him, of course, with an attack like "You ain't hiphop, you just a wack bubblegum rapper".

And now we see him shaking hands with another bubblegum rapper and talking how his music is real hiphop.

Get the symbolic?

EDIT: Plus I don't hate 50, at the moment I'm writing this I'm listening to 50's verse on Shot Down by DMX.

THANKYOU!!!

I swear I question the IQ levels of a lot of people on this site because most of you just don't get what I was saying.

1.I DON'T HATE 50, I LIKE SOME OF HIS MUSIC AND OWN TWO OF HIS ALBUMS.

2.I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH KRS TALKING TO 50, WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS KRS CONTRADICTING ALL THE SHIT HE HAS SAID IN THE PAST BY OPENLY TRYING TO JUSTIFY 50'S MUSIC. IF KRS IS JUST BULLSHITING FOR THE SAKE OF THE PROGRAM, THAT IS JUST AS BAD, HE SHOULD OF TOLD 50 HOW HE REALLY FELT.

3.I KNOW 50 DID NOT START THE BLING ERA SO DON'T BOTHER TRYING SCHOOL ME, WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS THAT HE IS CURRENTLY AT THE TOP AND THE FOCAL POINT SO LOGICLLY YOU WOULD START WITH HIM.

4.IM ALL FOR HIP HOP UNITY SO STFU ABOUT SAYING IM NOT FOR THAT.


Sorry for all the caps but some people just need it up close so their feeble minds can understand.

Robert
05-31-2007, 09:45 AM
^^wow i don't know about feeble minds Tauro....i think this isn't as black and white as you make it.........

TAURO
05-31-2007, 11:39 AM
This was a paragraph taken from an article regarding the image of hip hop over at hip hop dx.
I thought I should highlight this part because it reflects exactly how I feel about 50 Cent and why Krs was basically breaking bread with the enemy.


50 Cent wields so much power with the youth and he could make such a positive impact if he chose to. Sure, he won’t sell as many albums if he isn’t sensationalizing being sprayed by 9 bullets, but does the man really need any more money? Like him or not, the man is a brilliant entrepreneur. Why isn’t he teaching these kids what he knows? Is that really too much to ask? Shit, even if it’s one song on his album. 50 has had a fucked up life and his story is most definitely one that needs to be told (and he’s told it enough times), but its back to that old black and white stuff. There is a fine line between telling your story and glorifying it, and 50 has done a fuck of a lot of glorifying. Resorting to dealing drugs isn’t something that should be made cool, it is an act of desperation born out of poverty and systematic racism. Have you ever seen a real live crack head? There ain’t shit cool about facilitating that habit. The life of a drug dealer is one that often ends with prison or death, it is a life of severe consequences. How many rappers are actually communicating that? The world needs to hear about crime, drug dealing, gang violence and death, we need the voices of the voiceless. What we don’t need is these clowns making it sound like a desirable lifestyle, especially when most of them never even lived it and are straight lying their asses off.

TAURO
05-31-2007, 11:42 AM
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UNCLE RUCKUS
05-31-2007, 11:54 AM
Peace
KRS 1 contradicts himself constantly as does 50 why; because they are real, if they were perfect they wouldnt be interesting I say they unite and shut up the haters

TAURO
05-31-2007, 12:04 PM
Peace
KRS 1 contradicts himself constantly as does 50 why; because they are real, if they were perfect they wouldnt be interesting I say they unite and shut up the haters

Kwu I think you are one of the better posters on this forum so im not gonna insult your inteligence, but you have to know that contradicting one self is being human, you are right but Krs not only contradicts himself a lot, it keeps happening on camera, I mean c'mon Krs have some self control over the shit you say, because if I pioneer like him keeps flip flopping constantly what kind of example is he setting for the rest on the come up.

And as for 50 the only contradiction he brings is when he can't decide whether he's a real gangsta or a studio one..lol.

full_clip
05-31-2007, 01:10 PM
as i read all the postz here
it seemed that most people
dont want hip hop to be in unity
like it waz back in the day
in the case where 50 and KRS are talkin to eachother
it jus another positive step for hip hop
bein on the road to unity

kinda right, but most hiphopers don't want to be special hiphop to be known by every toy thats runnin 'round.., so i do, too. not that strictly, but i do not want some peeps who dont really LISTEN actively, to know bronze and cilva, or the last emperor..because its really sth special and if they start talkin with 50 on tv..every little fool willl download some of their stuff..thats sth i'm sure of. i know it sounds kinda radical, but it isnt, i hope ya dig..and can understand me a little bit..

full_clip
05-31-2007, 01:14 PM
This thread is childish ! Them being on Rap City has a hint message behind it. We all know that KRS will never do a track with 50. Since 50 is commercial, it doesn't mean they should be enemies & never approach each other. They are different musically & have a different fanbase. All this hate & lost of respect for KRS i'm seeing here. is stupid ! Krs is still the same & hasn't changed .

big up, i still love krs too

Robert
05-31-2007, 06:22 PM
This was a paragraph taken from an article regarding the image of hip hop over at hip hop dx.
I thought I should highlight this part because it reflects exactly how I feel about 50 Cent and why Krs was basically breaking bread with the enemy.


50 Cent wields so much power with the youth and he could make such a positive impact if he chose to. Sure, he wont sell as many albums if he isnt sensationalizing being sprayed by 9 bullets, but does the man really need any more money? Like him or not, the man is a brilliant entrepreneur. Why isnt he teaching these kids what he knows? Is that really too much to ask? Shit, even if its one song on his album. 50 has had a fucked up life and his story is most definitely one that needs to be told (and hes told it enough times), but its back to that old black and white stuff. There is a fine line between telling your story and glorifying it, and 50 has done a fuck of a lot of glorifying. Resorting to dealing drugs isnt something that should be made cool, it is an act of desperation born out of poverty and systematic racism. Have you ever seen a real live crack head? There aint shit cool about facilitating that habit. The life of a drug dealer is one that often ends with prison or death, it is a life of severe consequences. How many rappers are actually communicating that? The world needs to hear about crime, drug dealing, gang violence and death, we need the voices of the voiceless. What we dont need is these clowns making it sound like a desirable lifestyle, especially when most of them never even lived it and are straight lying their asses off.

Actually i think this beautifully somes up your arguement........very true when discussing 50........

Paranoid
05-31-2007, 06:30 PM
atleast krs1 is trying to fix the game, and this was one of his ways of promotion

whitey
05-31-2007, 07:34 PM
i think its wack as fuck.

krs-1 is either a huge hypocryte or hes eating shit to get publicity. i dont respect either of those things.

still like his music, but knocked him down a peg or two in my book.

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-31-2007, 08:29 PM
i think its wack as fuck.

krs-1 is either a huge hypocryte or hes eating shit to get publicity. i dont respect either of those things.

still like his music, but knocked him down a peg or two in my book.

funny cause for me had the exact opposite effect, Peace to Tauro for me you have good strong opinions and are a great poster and I respect your honesty man:yessad:

whitey
05-31-2007, 08:34 PM
hows he going to write a song about nelly and everything he stands for, which is 50 x1000. and now hes up close and personal with the dude like hes not selling out the art form that krs helped mold.

krs-1 did not do hiphop to get rich. 50 cent did. one plays for the love, one plays for the money.

UNCLE RUCKUS
05-31-2007, 08:51 PM
hows he going to write a song about nelly and everything he stands for, which is 50 x1000. and now hes up close and personal with the dude like hes not selling out the art form that krs helped mold.

krs-1 did not do hiphop to get rich. 50 cent did. one plays for the love, one plays for the money.

thats how it seems but they both do it for the love I honestly think from how I see it, we dont think too different though

maestro wooz
05-31-2007, 11:31 PM
youre all way overreacting

FlamingSwordz
05-31-2007, 11:43 PM
Thanks for the link. Doesn't change my views on either one of them.. 50 will still be 50 and KRS will still be KRS. I hate 50 Cent still and I still got respect for KRS as his music will live on forever, I just hope fans of 50 (or commercial rap) may pop on an older Hip-Hop album one day and realize how great these MC's were back then.

peace.

full_clip
06-01-2007, 09:31 AM
Thanks for the link. Doesn't change my views on either one of them.. 50 will still be 50 and KRS will still be KRS. I hate 50 Cent still and I still got respect for KRS as his music will live on forever, I just hope fans of 50 (or commercial rap) may pop on an older Hip-Hop album one day and realize how great these MC's were back then.

peace.

damn right man, you worded it properly..

begongo
06-03-2007, 01:29 PM
yo people
i can understand your hate, it`s justified ... but i gotta tell you ... hard times are coming for our Kulture
KRS planning that city ... that`s gonna cost a hell lot of money ... the teacha knows what he`s doing ... there`s gonna be a huge need of financing from these rich cats like 50, diddy, russel simmons, jay z and such
and in my oppinion it`s a lot better to get money from people that are at least somehow connected to the culture instead of jews or who the fuck has the necessary founds
besides ... 50 was showing mad respect to KRS
people ... if you believe in this Kulture just keep the faith going, don`t be afraid, don`t be disappointed ... it`s all gonna work out well in the end ... and i truly believe this

"release the fear, the real Hiphop is over here" like KRS would say

The Hound
06-19-2007, 03:37 PM
the people who "destroyed" hip hop are the people, we created a market for it, instead of bitching about it being dead, preserve what is left, same shit happend to heavy metal you know

Bodega Pop Tartz
06-19-2007, 08:44 PM
I hate ya'll dickheads ya'll don't want hip-hop to be seen by the masses that's why it's gonna stay dead.

DrUnK-N-MuNkY
06-19-2007, 08:47 PM
i smell haters

muahahahah