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PuNcH_iN_PuNcH_OuT
07-25-2005, 06:57 PM
I think S.A.N.T.A.N.A. and Mic Check is dope. He has done/been apart of a heap of crap. But just cas ur mainstream, blingy, thugy bullshit automactically make you wack?

Hate Away! haha

ch-chef
07-25-2005, 07:04 PM
nah, it dont make u lyrically wack automatically....but in his case....my opinion is hes real wack lyrically

Bone Collecta
07-25-2005, 07:22 PM
he is horrible mmmhhhmmm fuck a dipset

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-25-2005, 07:22 PM
too basic, the only thing good about him is the beats he spits on.....

R3beLuTionAry
07-25-2005, 07:31 PM
believe me or not ive never heard any of his music or any other dipset stuff except Purple City, and i think they're dope. Agallah's got skills.

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-25-2005, 07:32 PM
no one said anything about him, he is pretty ill, listen to that song with him and Sean Price for proof (haha remember from GTA3) and JR Writer aight lyrically, but Juelz is too basic

ballistic
07-25-2005, 07:47 PM
i like him, hes witty...

maestro wooz
07-25-2005, 07:48 PM
juelz is nice

GhostfaceKillah199
07-25-2005, 08:02 PM
i think he's ok. to me he's basically cam'ron's sidekick with the same flow but has fewer highs and lows(we all know cam can say some really dumb shit). peace

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-25-2005, 08:06 PM
lol Cam'Ron is sad, muthafucka was kickin some real lyrical shit back in the early 90's, different flow and everything, then you see the shit he on now........you know niggas was ghosting for him

kell16
07-25-2005, 08:07 PM
sick as hell

tical2000
07-25-2005, 08:15 PM
he floats somewhere between wack and dope

nrw killa bee
07-25-2005, 08:18 PM
he got his own wicked style.

Bone Collecta
07-25-2005, 08:25 PM
how the fuck is Juelz witty? lol

ThaHed
07-25-2005, 08:46 PM
Juelz is one of the best in the game currently


and From Me To U is a near flawless album

GhostfaceKillah199
07-25-2005, 09:01 PM
From Me To U is a near flawless album"N*gga Please"

u-turn
07-25-2005, 09:26 PM
I like the beats they use for him.

Bone Collecta
07-25-2005, 09:54 PM
Juelz is one of the best in the game currently


and From Me To U is a near flawless album
You embarass Bun b by saying that shit with him in your sig

check two
07-25-2005, 10:56 PM
He's lame and he wears stupid hats.

ThaHed
07-25-2005, 11:47 PM
"N*gga Please"
have you heard it?

ThaHed
07-25-2005, 11:47 PM
You embarass Bun b by saying that shit with him in your sig
and have you heard it?

AK Spray
07-25-2005, 11:58 PM
Yo... He can sumtimes be ILL AS SHIT.. ANd can sumtimes SUCK ASS.. loil.

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 12:19 AM
lol i heard Santana's town and thats enough proof to tell you that its NOT flawless. go listen to real music

ThaHed
07-26-2005, 12:29 AM
lol i heard Santana's town and thats enough proof to tell you that its NOT flawless. go listen to real music
okay so you lost this argument

1. because i said it is nearly flawless

2. because you havent heard the album

3. because you told me to go listen to real music, when you dont know what i listen to.

thank you for your time.

AK Spray
07-26-2005, 12:59 AM
okay so you lost this argument

1. because i said it is nearly flawless

2. because you havent heard the album

3. because you told me to go listen to real music, when you dont know what i listen to.

thank you for your time.

hahhaha... DAmn, yo...

SHRAP
07-26-2005, 01:03 AM
i like him, hes witty...
yea man, juelz is that crack, i used to hate him but hes grown on me

maestro wooz
07-26-2005, 01:36 AM
bone collecta, we realize you dont like dipset. You dont need to flame every thread making stupid points about how much they suck. Just listen to immortal technique and wu tang and be quiet

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 01:37 AM
okay so you lost this argument

1. because i said it is nearly flawless

2. because you havent heard the album

3. because you told me to go listen to real music, when you dont know what i listen to.

thank you for your time.
lol get the fuck outta here wit ya goony goo goo ass go suck Juelz's dick bitch

ThaHed
07-26-2005, 01:43 AM
lol get the fuck outta here wit ya goony goo goo ass go suck Juelz's dick bitch
you couldnt take the Loss like a man you had to stay somethin stupid lol

R3beLuTionAry
07-26-2005, 01:46 AM
you couldnt take the Loss like a man you had to stay somethin stupid lol
:lmao:

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 01:54 AM
you couldnt take the Loss like a man you had to stay somethin stupid lol
Jim Jones said it so you are talkin about your boys bitch

ThaHed
07-26-2005, 02:03 AM
Jim Jones said it so you are talkin about your boys bitch
it hurts to lose doesnt it.

TSA
07-26-2005, 02:04 AM
bone collecta, he proved a point, everyone has there opinions and you lost your right to dog on this subject. Now you just making yourself look immature. but anyways, I like his flow, lyrics are above average(not great) and beats are obviously dope, so hes good

SHRAP
07-26-2005, 02:04 AM
Jim Jones said it so you are talkin about your boys bitch
u still here? man go compare kanye west the rapper to rakim or something

R3beLuTionAry
07-26-2005, 02:06 AM
yeah bone collectionizer, if you cant shut up like a man, dont open up like a fag. case closed. and dont say anyones dickriding cause you dont have people on your side. case closed. dont think of insults. case closed.

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 02:11 AM
lol yall idiot especially Skale i didnt lose lol. plus i beat u in the worst click thread bitch ass kids. listen to real music not that trash.

ThaHed
07-26-2005, 02:12 AM
lol yall idiot especially Skale i didnt lose lol. plus i beat u in the worst click thread bitch ass kids. listen to real music not that trash.
what makes your opinon credible on what "real" music is?

no postin no more

is the man above you stated case closed

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 02:16 AM
lol Im in the industry foolish bitch LMAO you just a fan lol go take ya groupie ass out of here

SHRAP
07-26-2005, 02:19 AM
wow thahed he beat u on that one, since his job involves music he has better taste in listening to music than you! OHHH SHITTTT!!!! BRRRRRRRATTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!! :lmao:

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 02:19 AM
lol but im goin to sleep go listen to ya goony goo goos some more ya groupie ass muhh fucka

ThaHed
07-26-2005, 02:22 AM
lol but im goin to sleep go listen to ya goony goo goos some more ya groupie ass muhh fuckaactually im gonna go watch the Goon Squad and Bump J and them eating Big Macs to sell records

and so suddenly i dont kno anything about hip hop because of my profession?

do you even know what i do? you are a stupid kid.

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 02:23 AM
mcdonalds is a chicago owned company so it makes sense huh dumb ass

ThaHed
07-26-2005, 02:29 AM
mcdonalds is a chicago owned company so it makes sense huh dumb ass
oh so that makes it alright cause mcdonalds and bump j are from the same city

and bump j is "real music" under your definition correct? but if you read the what is real hip hop thread in the hip hop spot you will find that most people believe real hip hop is when your being yourself and not doin things for money and isint that exactly what bump j is doint right

im out for the night peace.

maestro wooz
07-26-2005, 03:22 AM
The time is now, my grind is here shit
My body is focused, my mind's in gear, let's start it
I'm moving at an unstoppable pace, I managed to reach the top of the race
Before it started damn, cold-hearted man
Rip apart your man, for that green dollar
Plain reppin' my target, stay and holla
Shoot and move from where ever my targets land
Damn, shit, I see ghosts when I sleep
It's really, I got to wake up, just to know I was sleep
Holding the heat, cold sweat all over my sheet
That's why I paint the most vividest pictures
My niggaz my bitches in the same position I live in
No oil and hot water, just boiling hot water
Cooking coke, to the oil and hot water, shit
But Who Am I

I lived the life of a loner, with a righteous persona
But still sold crack right on the corner
My life consist of, a big puzzle that's mixed up
Big bucks, big drugs, if I get caught, then it's big cuffs
Big bailor gets up, I get out, shit what, this shit sucks
I need to find another road to follow
One that's new and strong, not old and hollow
As I hold this bottle and smoke this reefeer
Listening to some old Aaliyah, I say, damn...
And a tear comes trimbling down
Never seen a man cry, well you witness it now
Shit, this isn't game from the heart, this pain from the heart
This is for you Dame, it came from the heart, so

Momma, I just want you to know
I'm in love with you so, if you wasn't here I'd be in love with you soul
My angel, mommy I'd die faithful
Just knowing somone tried to violate you
I'll slide 8ths through the side of their facial
Squeeze and rip apart a side of their facial
I'd take a slug, eat a bullet, swallow a gun
Shit, you gotta know I'm your son
Damn, this type of love, could only come from a son
Hold up mommy, I'm twisted I'm drunk...listen

Yeah, but it's more then the liquor and weed
Yeah it's more then the liquor in me
Shit, I gotta get it together
I was falling off, with drunk words and sober thoughts
So, I'm still speaking the truth
And what I'm still speaking is truth, this is your younger sons speaking to you

as deep, if not deeper, then anything wu tang has ever done.

SHRAP
07-26-2005, 03:39 AM
wooz as much as i dislike u, at least u aint a dumbfuck with music hey

PuNcH_iN_PuNcH_OuT
07-26-2005, 06:37 AM
all this fighting is great

goony goo goos? where do I check these guys out?

hahaha

Welshkillabee
07-26-2005, 07:23 AM
i dont like his teenage fantasy raps about guns, cracks, bitches etc i like my music with at least some substance thats my opinion though

maestro wooz
07-26-2005, 12:14 PM
hey thanks skale! thats very kind of you

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 12:22 PM
oh so that makes it alright cause mcdonalds and bump j are from the same city

and bump j is "real music" under your definition correct? but if you read the what is real hip hop thread in the hip hop spot you will find that most people believe real hip hop is when your being yourself and not doin things for money and isint that exactly what bump j is doint right

im out for the night peace.
the song was NOT made for McDonalds, they decided to put it in the commercial AFTER it was made. There is no such thing as "real hiphop". The music business is a business, its about what sells not how you express anything.

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-26-2005, 12:25 PM
then why do you listen to it then? What the hell kinda logic do you use? True, the industry is buying music slots for their garbage music and brainwashing people into buying shit (FOX just exposed Sony) but there is still "real Hip Hop" and people out there that live this lifestyle, don't bullshit with your words. Majority means NOTHING.

Bone Collecta
07-26-2005, 12:38 PM
Yes it does cause if you want to eat then you do what you have to do. there is no such thing as REAL hip hop. as much as you all want it to be. Wu-tang was a gimmick believe it or not.

Wu-Disciple
07-26-2005, 02:08 PM
i said it b4 on this forum: doesn't seem like this guy bit Lord Superb's flow?

really! dude flow, the stop and go flow, like he forgot his next line everytime is purely superb's style. before superb ain't nobody did it like that. check out the man w/ masta killa, check him on ghost's album

Bedlam
07-26-2005, 04:12 PM
Juelz Santana is unbelievably wack, I really can't think of anyone who's more corny than him. Sorry to all you dipset fans, but I hate this guy.

Sergio
07-26-2005, 04:19 PM
I'll wipe my ass with santana's cd if it was softer

444trumpets
07-26-2005, 04:20 PM
juelz is boo boo


PEACE 4.4.4. TRUMPETS

GhostfaceKillah199
07-26-2005, 04:31 PM
have you heard it?
yeah, I wouldn't judge shit I haven't heard my man. I only like Down, Why, and Rain Drops, the rest is either wack to me or ok. Fine if it's a classic or a near classic to you, but brother please... to say near flawless... no hatin but you must have very low standards or you're just that big of a fan. peace

GhostfaceKillah199
07-26-2005, 04:37 PM
as deep, if not deeper, then anything wu tang has ever done.
So you've never listened to Ghost or RZA huh?

maestro wooz
07-26-2005, 05:57 PM
nah the thing is is ive listened to too much ghost and rza over the years

P3T3R BARK3R
07-26-2005, 08:45 PM
i think juelz has a nice flow, but his topics are wack.

and of course the beats hes uses are dope as fuck.

ThaHed
07-27-2005, 08:38 PM
yeah, I wouldn't judge shit I haven't heard my man. I only like Down, Why, and Rain Drops, the rest is either wack to me or ok. Fine if it's a classic or a near classic to you, but brother please... to say near flawless... no hatin but you must have very low standards or you're just that big of a fan. peace
actually im not that big of fan, i am a fan but not a huge fan. i just think it is a very underated release

Bone Collecta
07-27-2005, 08:41 PM
Bun B> Dipset's career

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
07-27-2005, 08:46 PM
^ :lmao:

Bone Collecta
07-27-2005, 08:46 PM
fuck that 1 verse by Bun B > Dipset's career

ol dirty abbot
07-27-2005, 10:01 PM
I like heaps

younguru
07-27-2005, 10:25 PM
wooz as much as i dislike u, at least u aint a dumbfuck with music hey I would would be pleased if you niggas would stop stealing my sigs...yo Skale if you want me to make one for you just ask me I will.

check two
07-27-2005, 10:25 PM
No offense, but this rapper doesn't deserve four plus pages about him. lol

maestro wooz
07-28-2005, 09:32 AM
youre right, we should fill up 4 pages discussing cappadonas verse on winter warz

WuBanga36
07-28-2005, 09:33 AM
Not feeling Juelz.

ThaHed
07-29-2005, 05:31 PM
fuck that 1 verse by Bun B > Dipset's career
okay.

tajeco
08-01-2005, 05:07 PM
I think him and Camron fuckin suck, from what I've heard recently. With their slow-ass punch line deliveries, the problem is, they don't have clever punchlines. Plus fuck Camron for wearing pink fur. I'll quote Masta Killa in that interview he did, "what the fuck is dipset" and "pink is for bitches"

R3beLuTionAry
08-01-2005, 07:55 PM
I think him and Camron fuckin suck, from what I've heard recently. With their slow-ass punch line deliveries, the problem is, they don't have clever punchlines. Plus fuck Camron for wearing pink fur. I'll quote Masta Killa in that interview he did, "what the fuck is dipset" and "pink is for bitches"

LMAO which interview wuz that? Got the link??

maestro wooz
08-01-2005, 08:16 PM
he knew what the diplomats were he just didnt know they were called dipset. If i remember correctly the next response by masta killa was "oh yeah, peace to killa cam and the boys"

KIND
08-01-2005, 09:52 PM
The Dip Shits are basic & boring
Peedi Crack is way more entertaining then Juelz

C Beretta
08-01-2005, 10:13 PM
I think him and Camron fuckin suck, from what I've heard recently. With their slow-ass punch line deliveries, the problem is, they don't have clever punchlines. Plus fuck Camron for wearing pink fur. I'll quote Masta Killa in that interview he did, "what the fuck is dipset" and "pink is for bitches"
Punchlines don't make an artists and if you are looking for punchlines listen to 40 cal and Hell Rell. Cam'ron is still nice he's just lazy. Juelz has his on and off times. Back like cooked crack 2 is fire though.

PolitiC
08-02-2005, 06:15 AM
im feeeling dips including juelz...he needs to step his lyrical game up a little bit but im still feeling his flow,beats,voice and even some lyrics

peace