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06-09-2007, 02:12 PM

You donít need Rakim on the remix to tell you that in hip-hop, the truth hurts. The truth is, twelve years ago, the Oakland duo of Yukmouth and Numskull got it in as The Luniz, and still hold one of the biggest records to ever come from the Bay in ďI Got Five on It.Ē However, after that, the truth got blurry.

The light-hearted group who celebrated mischief and self-medication split in two directions. After publicly ignored disputes with Master P and Too $hort, Yukmouth headed South to align with Rap-A-Lot Records in his more thugged out approach Ė something that Numskull says was fictional. Meanwhile, Numskull returned to his roots with Digital Underground on the road.

Now an admitted alcoholic, the honesty is hard to ignore. Numskull admits to a blue-collar lifestyle, as he releases Numworld, an album that tells it like it is. In a discussion tracing the evolution and demise of The Luniz, Numskull speaks candidly, despite his intention to bring the fun back to the ďmuzik.Ē

AllHipHop.com: In 1995, The Luniz put out Operation Stackola and E-40 dropped In a Major Way. Those were two very important albums. Was that that a crazy point for you guys and the bay area in terms of the attention you were getting?

Numskull: I think that was the peak of it, yeah. Dudes like Too $hort were bringiní attention to The Bay already, but yeah, that right there was the peak of it for me.

AllHipHop.com: You were always a lyrical dude. A lot of people donít consider MCs from Oakland to be lyrical. How do you feel about that stereotype?

Numskull: Thank you man, thank you. I appreciate that. Everybodyís always talking about that lyrical stuff. I just wanna hear people say something. If youíre sayiní something, thatís whatís gonna make me like your music. Talk to me, say something to me. Let me know youíre going through the same thing Iím going through. And Iíll buy your records then and I hope thatís what people think about Nummy.

AllHipHop.com: On Lunitik Muzik particularly, you brought a light-hearted side to the music, at times comedy. How intentional was that?

Numskull: Iíll tell you, man, me and Yuk was all about haviní fun. That was our lives: just clowniní and haviní fun. We bagginí on everybody all day. Thatís what our families do. We have fun. But were still struggling so we try to make it better with our music. We try to make it better with ourselves. We laugh all day, thatís what we do. We laugh, we play, we make money, we struggle, all in one, and it comes out in my music. I got a comedy side, man, I got a struggle side, thatís me. I take what I live and I put it into my music.

AllHipHop.com: Whatís your relationship with Yukmouth, right now?

Numskull: Me and him are on some like ďwhatever is whatever.Ē If we come together to do something, itís gonna be for the money. You know what Iím sayiní? Itís like having a brother, man. Sometimes you not gonna get along, and thatís what weíre at right now. Weíre not getting along right now. But maybe one day itíll get better and well put something out for the fans, you never know.

AllHipHop.com: Where does this come from?

Numskull: Aw man, I donít know, man. This is what I have to say: I donít like lying about the s**t that I do in my raps. That ainít me, man. Basically, thatís what me and Yuk had a problem with. He ainít telling the truth in his raps, and I wonít do that. Iím a broke n***a, so I rap about that. [Heís] rappiní about flossiní and all that. N***a, we didnít have that s**t. We wasnít haviní that s**t. N***as wasnít buying houses with elevators in them and s**t. Basically, thatís my whole beef. Donít lie in your raps, n***a, because Iím not. Thatís how it is, man, and if a n***a mad at that then f**k Ďem.

AllHipHop.com: I was listening to ďIím NotĒ and ď40ís in a BrownbagĒ, two of your new joints. Whatís the album situation?

Numskull: My album will be out June 26th, called Numworld. This album is about me Ďcause people havenít seen me or heard me in a long time. This is what Iím rapping about. This is my struggle. This is about everybody who thinks I canít do it without Yuk. Thatís the type of s**t thatís on this album, plus me being an alcoholic. Itís just me, man. This album is me, and thatís what Iím writing about.

AllHipHop.com: When you say youíre an alcoholic, do you mean that literally?

Numskull: Literally, Iím an alcoholic. I drink six 40 [ounce bottles] of Mickeyís a day. Wake up with one, I get one before breakfast [Laughing] and I have [four more] of them before I go to sleep.

AllHipHop.com: Do you consider that a problem?

Numskull: Nah, thatís what I love to do. I love Mickeyís man. Tell Mickeyís to sponsor me. Itís not like that, but if you drink six forties a day, youíre an alcoholic. I ainít gonna deny it.

AllHipHop.com: You havenít been in the public eye for a minute. Tell me what youíve been up to all this time.

Numskull: Actually, Iíve been on tour for the last five years with Digital Underground, man. Iíve been traveling. Them n***as taught me how to do shows, man, and I was just soaking up game.

AllHipHop.com: I know you had a relationship with Tupac. What was that like?

Numskull: Yeah, I knew ĎPac. We werenít best friends or nothiní. But we respected each other as rappers from the Bay. I mean I was with Digital, and he was under Shock and them so it was a relationship like that. When ĎPac and me saw each other, it was all good. I go to his hotel, he came to my hotel, s**t like that. You know we did some stuff with ĎPac. And after he died, we went in and did some stuff that never came out, but you know how that is. Me and ĎPac was fam, it was like that.

AllHipHop.com: Operation Stackola and Lunitik Muzik both did excellent on the charts. After that the sales started slowing down. Why was that?

Numskull: Well, what happened was Virgin expected the single to blow up just like ďI Got Five on ItĒ did. And putting out ďMe and YouĒ after ďI Got Five on It,Ē that was the biggest mistake. I told them not to do it but they did it anyway. They wanted to take us somewhere where you canít take street n***as from Oakland. We had a ghetto classic. It only related to the world because it was about weed. The hook was tremendous, the beat was cool. But you cannot follow that up with [singing] ďJust me and you, we made it.Ē F**k all that s**t. They f**ked that up. They didnít wanna put no money behind us.

AllHipHop.com: Like you said ďI Got Five on ItĒ was a classic. How important was and is that song to Hip-Hop?

Numskull: You canít talk about rap music and not talk about ďI Got Five on It.Ē Thatís how I feel. I mean I had old people come up to me, old enough to be my grandparents and say, ďI love that song.Ē Thatís huge. And Iím glad I was able to make a song like that.

AllHipHop.com: When you were recording the Silver and Black album, did a lot of industry politics already come into play?

Numskull: Yeah, yeah. That was an album that Yuk and me wanted to do, but I didnít wanna sign to Rap-A-Lot. But n***as needed money, man, so we was like, ďLetís go,Ē but I didnít even sign over there at Rap-A-Lot. I just did a one-album deal. No contract or nothing.

AllHipHop.com: Looking back, youíve seen a lot of trials and tribulations. Is there anything different you would have done with your career?

Numskull: Yeah, I would have invested my money.


06-09-2007, 10:41 PM
Damn, Numskull just exposed Yuk as a fraud, but saying that though I never expected much from Rap A Lot. I have that Yuk double cd and most of it is pure garbage, Luniz as a unit were tight though, I always liked their shit.