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maestro wooz
07-08-2007, 07:24 PM
Books I've recently read:

The Secret Sharer by Joseph Conrad
and also I reread The Dharma Bums by Jack Kerouac

Currently I'm Reading The Electrict Kool-Aid Acid Tests by Tom Wolf

Some of my favorite books are On the Road by Jack Kerouac and The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy as well as The Sea Wolf by Jack London

Add on if you have any comments and maybe i'll do a review of some books sometime

Longbongcilvaringz
07-08-2007, 09:29 PM
comment: The Electric Kool Aid Test is an interesting read indeed.

maestro wooz
07-08-2007, 11:15 PM
yeah it is. Im not finished with it so this opinion might be void in a week, im still on the fence about wolf's writing style. The way he uses ellipses to end paragraphs sometimes makes it difficult to read because it bounces so much. I dont know, just how im feeling at the minute.

Longbongcilvaringz
07-09-2007, 02:38 PM
yeah it isnt an easy read by any means, still worth it though imo.

i read the whole thing, then revisited parts that were interesting or i sort of skimmed over originally...

you seem to be into the whole beat generation thing wooz, bit off topic, but you ever had a look at the Don Juan books?

interesting reads.

maestro wooz
07-09-2007, 07:12 PM
i know of the don juan legend and story, but not as it pertains or relates to beat generation writers, explain

maestro wooz
07-09-2007, 11:27 PM
in theory, within 10 years, depends how other things fall together

Longbongcilvaringz
07-11-2007, 12:01 PM
i know of the don juan legend and story, but not as it pertains or relates to beat generation writers, explain


ah, nah im not saying it does explicitely, some beat generation stuff and "Electric Kool Aid.." just got me into the Don Juan books.

maestro wooz
07-12-2007, 11:52 PM
oh aight

im a couple chapters past when the hells angels come to la honda, no complaints anymore

maestro wooz
07-18-2007, 03:33 PM
i finished electric.... and i also finished ham on rye by charles bukowski, reviews forthcoming

Kriszy Substance
07-18-2007, 05:42 PM
Wooz reads good books....will keep an eye out for reviews...hardly remember ham on rye...was too long ago that I read it....

I am very interested in the "tell all" that Wu-matic speaks of. (I realize it is not proper to end a sentence in a preposition)

I miss late night questions with Wooz.

the silencer
07-19-2007, 08:44 PM
sick thread...

gotta go to bed soon, ill get up in this this weekend..

peace wooz

maestro wooz
07-20-2007, 12:17 AM
Wooz reads good books....will keep an eye out for reviews...hardly remember ham on rye...was too long ago that I read it....

reviews coming tommorow or possibly the day after or possibly the day after that


I am very interested in the "tell all" that Wu-matic speaks of. (I realize it is not proper to end a sentence in a preposition)

he was making a joke since the latest misinformed slander against me is that i am a snitch and often cooperate with the police, but in seriousness i plan on eventually explaining the world for everyone someday


I miss late night questions with Wooz.

haha same, but we've both moved on from general chat and only participate in serious wu tang discussions now.



today i picked up visions of cody by kerouac and started reading through a copy of the tao te ching that i have. Im only 15 pages in, but visions of cody is dense with elaborate details in classic kerouac run-on sentences. Im trying to cram in as much reading this summer while i have the time and am sober(for the most part) from mary juana.

Longbongcilvaringz
07-24-2007, 03:17 PM
have you read "Desolation Angels" wooz, i literally just started it... im like 2 pages in.

if so what are your thoughts on it, good?

also would be interesting to see your final thoughts on "Electric Kool-aid", im re reading some of it currently coincidentally.

maestro wooz
07-24-2007, 11:32 PM
nah never read desolation angels, i almost picked it up the other day but i got visions of cody instead

Electric kool-aid was a tight book. Some of the stories were amazing; hells angels at la honda, anything neal cassady, the acid tests, on and on and on. I was not a huge huge fan of wolfe's writing style, but i guess it was the best way to convey some of the feelings they were having. I mean, an acid trip is hardly the most coherent and straightforward thing, so writing intending to reflect acid trips is not gonna be straightforward. Not that i disliked it by the end, just wasnt raving about it. The book did have some slow parts but overall the story line moved well and even when there was no action by the characters wolfe kept it moving with details and background info that helped you understand everything better. Some amazing parts where i couldnt put it down. I liked it and theres some parts that are def worth a re-read. I also think wolfe described the effects and general feeling of a trip very well.

Ham on rye was a very good. Ill start by saying it was a very easy read. No complicated detailed introspective thoughts or run-on sentences that go for a whole page, but part of its attraction was in that fact. It was very to the point, not a single wasted word. Bukowski lets the actions and the limited dialogue do the explaining and teaching in this novel. I was at the beach with my family, bored out of my mind, and sat down outside for near 5 hours and got through all almost 300 pages. A cool read with a real awesome character, henry chinanski, that is worth the minimal time it'd take to read it. Another good book.

Like ive said, im reading visions of cody by kerouac right now and im up to page 90 something right now. The story is basically all about neal cassady and (so far) his childhood growing up. I have to think this is the quintessential example of kerouac's type of writing, with alot of very long sentences that go for ever and take you down all types of thought alleys. Its really like reading about neal cassady as if neal cassady was telling his story to you in his classic "speech" type of speak sometimes. Can be tiring because theres just so much detail and description packed in to each page, but im getting through it. So far it definetley gets a passing grade.

Longbongcilvaringz
07-25-2007, 02:48 AM
i know what you mean about wolfes style, its definitely unconventional.

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
07-31-2007, 12:20 PM
I'm currently reading The Descent - Jeff Long

Amazon.com
In a high Himalayan cave, among the death pits of Bosnia, in a newly excavated Java temple, Long's characters find out to their terror that humanity is not alone--that, as we have always really known, horned and vicious humanoids lurk in vast caverns beneath our feet. This audacious remaking of the old hollow-earth plot takes us, in no short order, to the new world regime that follows the genocidal harrowing of Hell by heavily armed, high-tech American forces. An ambitious tycoon sends an expedition of scientists, including a beautiful nun linguist and a hideously tattooed commando former prisoner of Hell, ever deeper into the unknown, among surviving, savage, horned tribes and the vast citadels of the civilizations that fell beneath the earth before ours arose. A conspiracy of scholars pursues the identity of the being known as Satan, coming up with unpalatable truths about the origins of human culture and the identity of the Turin Shroud, and are picked off one by bloody one. Long rehabilitates, madly, the novel of adventures among lost peoples--occasional clumsiness and promises of paranoid revelations on which he cannot entirely deliver fail to diminish the real achievement here; this feels like a story we have always known and dreaded. --Roz Kaveney, Amazon.co.uk --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

From Publishers Weekly
The premise of this millennial thriller is as audacious as it is problematic: "if there can be a historical Christ," one character hypothesizes, "why not a historic Satan?" Demystification of the ultimate Bad Guy is no easy feat, but Long (Angels of Light) brings it off, if just barely, in a dizzying synthesis of supernatural horror, lost-race fantasy and military SF. From the experiences of a varied cast of charactersAincluding Sister Ali, a Catholic nun serving in South Africa, and Elias Branch, a major with NATO forces in BosniaAa 21st-century think tank calling itself the Beowulf Circle distills a startling theory: The biblical Satan and his devils in Hell are mythic renderings of Homo hadalis, grotesquely malformed offshoots of Homo sapiens who for centuries have surfaced from underground hideouts to prey on human beings. With the help of Ike Crockett, an escapee from 10 years of "hadal" captivity, Beowulf infiltrates the Helios Corporation's mission to explore caverns honeycombing Earth's interior. Once beneath the Mariana Trench, Beowulf discovers that Helios intends to forcefully annex the world inside the earth's crust to further its business ambitions. Meanwhile, topside, Beowulf's theologians and metaphysicians surmise that the elusive "Satan" has evolved a human form to pass secretly among mankind. Like the subterranean trail blazed by its adventurers, the narrative twists, turns, dead-ends and backtracks. Inventive scenes of underground wonders alternate with talky stretches of scientific discourse and mawkish moments of romance between Ike and Ali. Though its devils prove disappointingly to be made in the image of humans, Long's novel brims with energy, ideas and excitement. 150,000 first printing; major ad/promo; film rights sold to Warner Bros. (July)
Copyright 1999 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

http://www.amazon.com/Descent-Jeff-Long/dp/051513175X

CEITEDMOFO
08-01-2007, 01:17 PM
This Thread Should Be In The Dan Cooley Forum

maestro wooz
08-12-2007, 10:26 PM
i havent updated this shit in a minute, i had to put down visions of cody. Its not that i didnt enjoy it, but it was so dense and long that i was going nowhere in the book. Ill get back to it sometime, but i wanted some thing else right now. Since then, ive read bukowski's pulp and post office. Both really good books. Bukowski's style is so different than most writing and especially something like kerouacs. Muchos gracias to lhx and frother for their recommendations. Not sure what im gonna read next, i have kerouac' dr. sax or robert anton wilsons illuminatus triology but im probaly gonna go look for some more bukowski, really feeling his shit right now. Out.

maestro wooz
09-14-2007, 12:43 AM
i read most of sense and sensibility for a class. Cool book.

maestro wooz
12-27-2007, 04:46 AM
okay, well since september ive read several books and since i cant go to sleep ill update

for school i read,

george eliot's "Felix Holt the Radical". I really liked this book, except for the ending. I really liked eliot's style. She was as longwinded as most victorian writers, except she was often packing worthwhile things in to her way too long thoughts. The characters were great, some of the most complex ive come across. The ending killed it for me though. It ended in such a story book classic victorian bullshit way, with everything proceeding being forgotten in the name of making the main characters live happily ever after.

I also read Thomas Hardy's Tess of D'urbervilles. This was okay, but almost the exact opposite of Felix Holt. Hardy was often excessively longwinded(i know, thats like saying a large elephant, but this was often a huge elephant) for no particular reason. His characters were very simple and you could predict their next actions. But, the characters and plot were good and it ended in a dramatic fashion that was hardly storybook. All in all, not bad, im glad i had to read it for school, else i probably never would have read it.

In my last post i mentioned that i was really getting into bukowski, and my slide into that shithead has continued. For those who are familiar, ive finished women, notes of a dirty old man, running with the hunted, about done septugenarian stew, and ive got "you get so alone at times something something..." up next in the queue. Hes good, what can i say.

I was also reading the tao te ching a lot for awhile. Kinda got away from that, but i need to start again.

Over the summer i was getting in to kerouac more and more but unfortunately that hit a wall and i havent been able to ride that enthusiasm. One problem is that bukowski has piqued my interest and i havent been trying to get into many things besides his when i had the chance to. Also, there styles are very different which makes a juggling them hard. My last excuse is, for school i often have to slosh through books that are, as i mentioned several times, slightly long winded and not particularly appealing to me, and so the motivation to force myself to read kerouac until i like it hasnt been there. Also, i think my last two purchases of his, dr. sax and visions of cody, are exactly what i shouldnt have bought in my situation. I picked up big sur for christmas and im gonna try to finish that over the winter break while i have some time before spring semester.


I think thats it, but i have the feeling that i forgot something.






Fuck, that was a longwinded post.

maestro wooz
01-30-2008, 01:10 PM
finished big sur, great book, ive got english classes out the anus this semester so ill be doing a lot of reading but hardly any of it by choice, but regardless ill have many updates

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
01-30-2008, 03:07 PM
HAHHAA none by choice. That sucks

maestro wooz
01-30-2008, 05:34 PM
yer well, its okay on one hand cause i wouldnt have (ever?) read these books if i wasnt required to, so it does expose me to works outside of my comfort zone. But, on the other hand it sucks cause i have to have read at least 2 novels i have slight interest in by the end of next week.

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
01-30-2008, 05:39 PM
reading a novel you have no interest in is like slow torture.