PDA

View Full Version : giving children the ok to kill


7EL7
11-01-2007, 09:05 PM
making heroes out of fictional killers


watching halloween

nine minutes into it

knew it confirmed it

michael myers - hannibal

their childhood stories and what made them that way

is hollywood promoting this

children killers ?

Cthulhu
11-01-2007, 09:52 PM
How would those movies be promoting it? First of all, they are obviously works of fiction, and the backstories are only meant to be a character origin (which I kind of dislike as a story device, it takes away from the mystery of the villain's evil).

7EL7
11-01-2007, 11:12 PM
7el7 the main flaw in your mode of thinking is that you look for simple answers to complex problems. almost all of the threads i've seen you start have made this mistake.

yes, hollywood glorifies killing. just like the epic campfire stories of generations past. but movies can also show the brutality of it in ways that seem more real than watching the real violence on the news. and as for its effect on children, that's entirely up to the parents what they let their children watch. "hollywood" has no say in that. if anything, movies like halloween make parents more mindful of what they're children watch on tv.


you don't say

7EL7
11-01-2007, 11:27 PM
How would those movies be promoting it? First of all, they are obviously works of fiction, and the backstories are only meant to be a character origin (which I kind of dislike as a story device, it takes away from the mystery of the villain's evil).


my name took away from your answer



__________________________________________________ ___________


michael myers is a hero

he kils the bad people

Cthulhu
11-02-2007, 12:26 AM
my name took away from your answer



__________________________________________________ ___________


michael myers is a hero

he kils the bad people

I'm going to have to disagree with that. It's true that in slasher movies many of the victims are teen doing something immoral before they get killed, but in the story roles, the killer is the antagonist and the person who seems to have a good chance of surviving the ordeal is the protagonist.

Of course, there some sequels that are so awful or self-parodying that the killer DOES indeed become the "hero", but at this point the tone has drastically changed. I can't say it really "glorifies killing" any more than Loony Toons glorifies hitting people over the head with oversized mallets.

7EL7
11-02-2007, 07:36 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with that. It's true that in slasher movies many of the victims are teen doing something immoral before they get killed, but in the story roles, the killer is the antagonist and the person who seems to have a good chance of surviving the ordeal is the protagonist.

Of course, there some sequels that are so awful or self-parodying that the killer DOES indeed become the "hero", but at this point the tone has drastically changed. I can't say it really "glorifies killing" any more than Loony Toons glorifies hitting people over the head with oversized mallets.

hannibal and ole mikey are heroes

V4D3R
11-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Hannibal and a lot of serial killer movies are breeding more serial killers- making these fucked up kids think that they are not alone- the Zionists love tainting the innocent youth with shit. The Zionists brought porn to the world and most of the disgusting forms of entertainment.

Cthulhu
11-03-2007, 05:17 PM
hannibal and ole mikey are heroes

Uh...no.... they are not. You have a profound misunderstanding of literary devices.

Cthulhu
11-03-2007, 05:18 PM
Hannibal and a lot of serial killer movies are breeding more serial killers- making these fucked up kids think that they are not alone- the Zionists love tainting the innocent youth with shit. The Zionists brought porn to the world and most of the disgusting forms of entertainment.

lol, what a load of horse shit.

Urban_Journalz
11-05-2007, 02:52 AM
I see an equal balance.

Sure, the bad guys in films are made to seem cooler sometimes.

Don't forget though, that the good guys, especially with the recent onslaught of super-hero films coming out, have been way more inspirational than the villains.

It really depends on who you are as a person in the end.

STYLE
11-05-2007, 05:34 AM
the ultimate hero/villain -----DARTH VADER

the most feared and wicked man in the galaxy that redeems himself and saves the day.

my personal hero.

WARPATH
11-06-2007, 04:17 PM
making heroes out of fictional killers


watching halloween

nine minutes into it

knew it confirmed it

michael myers - hannibal

their childhood stories and what made them that way

is hollywood promoting this

children killers ?

I agree. You can't help but root for the bad guy.

Promoting Humility isn't profitable, unless Jesus is the main character.

Cthulhu
11-06-2007, 10:54 PM
If you guys seriously think that slasher movies incite people to kill, you have a very poor grasp of basic literary elements.

Now if you want to know a story that really does challenge the moral notions of freedom and murder, read Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment or Richard Wright's The Outsider.

WARPATH
11-07-2007, 10:59 AM
If you guys seriously think that slasher movies incite people to kill, you have a very poor grasp of basic literary elements.

Now if you want to know a story that really does challenge the moral notions of freedom and murder, read Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment or Richard Wright's The Outsider.

Who said anything about slasher movies inciting people to Kill?

tobacojones
11-07-2007, 03:06 PM
Filmmakers want to sell their movies, and people have tons of nameless guilt, so making an accessible serial killer is a good business move.

Cthulhu
11-07-2007, 10:31 PM
Who said anything about slasher movies inciting people to Kill?

The original poster..........did you not read the title of the thread and the first post?

STYLE
11-07-2007, 10:50 PM
i can't wait for the unedited manhunt for wii. you actually have do the movements for the kills..
stabbing, piano wire, ect ect.

WARPATH
11-08-2007, 01:20 PM
The original poster..........did you not read the title of the thread and the first post?

Yes I read it. It siad:


making heroes out of fictional killers


watching halloween

nine minutes into it

knew it confirmed it

michael myers - hannibal

their childhood stories and what made them that way

is hollywood promoting this

children killers ?


It doesn't say anything about slasher movies inciting people to kill.

Cthulhu
11-09-2007, 10:44 PM
Yes I read it. It siad:





It doesn't say anything about slasher movies inciting people to kill.

That's obviously what he's implying. Since you're arguing semantics for the sake of being a prick, I'll rephrase it:

If you think slasher movies are "giving children the ok to kill" you have a fundamental misunderstanding of basic literary elements.

Are you quite pleased?

LORD NOSE
11-10-2007, 12:37 PM
That's obviously what he's implying. Since you're arguing semantics for the sake of being a prick, I'll rephrase it:

If you think slasher movies are "giving children the ok to kill" you have a fundamental misunderstanding of basic literary elements.

Are you quite pleased?


can you speak your piece without the name calling and frustration behind your words ?

WARPATH
11-13-2007, 06:09 PM
That's obviously what he's implying. Since you're arguing semantics for the sake of being a prick, I'll rephrase it:

If you think slasher movies are "giving children the ok to kill" you have a fundamental misunderstanding of basic literary elements.

Are you quite pleased?

Bloody Savages!!!!