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V4D3R
12-10-2007, 06:41 PM
The planet Saturn is something else. It's worshiped by Pagan's.
The ancient Roman holiday of Saturnalia.

The Disclosure Project has a witness from JPL (Jet Propulsion Lab) that state that many many enormous sized ships were seen there.

It's moon Iapetus is the weirdest moon in the solar system. Almost has the same shape of the Ying/Yang symbol on it. It has the same orbit as our moon - same side facing it's planet. Only two known objects in the universe to do that.

http://www.solarviews.com/thumb/sat/viapetus.gif

a moon with a 12 mile high mountain range along it's equator.

http://www.solarviews.com/browse/vss/VSS00056.jpg

and honey combs all along the surface.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/images_v2/Iapetus/Iapetus-Color-High-Res-s.jpg



And then there's the Hexagonal cloud formation on Saturn's north pole.


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V4D3R
12-10-2007, 06:53 PM
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STYLE
12-10-2007, 06:54 PM
actually christians worship saturn too. there are many saturnian symbols in our society such as the square graduation hat, judges robes, and halos. i dig up the video link that goes deep into this subject.

LORD NOSE
12-10-2007, 07:03 PM
its said the christmas reef is the symbol of saturns rings also

what was the musical group earth wind and fires take on saturns astrological symbol ?


http://www.earthwindandfire.com/


http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7756/jupiterwh3.gif

LORD NOSE
12-10-2007, 07:06 PM
There is no mistaking the new age-occult message of the group Earth, Wind and Fire. They openly saturate their album covers with occult symbols and imagery. A quick glance at their albums is a visual barrage of the all-seeing eye of Horus, Shiva, Jupiter, zodiac signs, pyramids, hexagrams, the Egyptian ankh, and many others.
Throughout paganism the concept of mother-earth-is-god begins with Earth, Wind and Fire. On the back of Earth, Wind and Fire’s Greatest Hits Vol. I, this pagan heresy is promoted with the words, "In The Beginning, There Was Earth, Wind and Fire." Rather than "In The Beginning, There Was God" – "God" is replaced with the pagan elemental god of "Earth, Wind and Fire."
http://www.av1611.org/crock/images/pog_avatar.jpg One of their albums is titled Avatar. Avatar is the new-age-superman-god (known by Christians as the Antichrist) the occult world is longing for. New Age-Luciferian, author Alice Bailey writes in. The Reappearance of the Christ, "The coming of the Avatar, the advent of a Coming One and, in terms of today, the reappearance of the Christ are the keynotes of the prevalent expectancy. When the times are ripe, the invocation of the masses is strident enough and the faith of those who know is keen enough, then always He has come. . ." (Alice Bailey, The Reappearance of the Christ). The Christ Bailey is referring to is not the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible – but Lucifer of the Bible. Bailey’s publishing company was originally titled Lucifer Publishing. The Coming Avatar is none other than the Antichrist. Earth, Wind and Fire is more than an innocent music group. Founder and leader Maurice White proudly admits their music is to preach their metaphysic occult message:
"I always studied metaphysics and Egyptology. It got so interesting, what I was trying to do was share with the audience what we were learning at the time. As we learned more, we went about trying to share it with the audience, bring a message to the music."
(EW&F interview, Goldmine Magazine, January 1998) In the same interview, Verdine of Earth, Wind and Fire, also provides insight into their new age message — acknowledging they promoted the demonic practice of occult Trancendental Meditation:
"Maurice always studied astrology, numerology, astronomy, We introduced Trancendental Meditation to a lot of the black audience. That was very new for them. Of course, the Beatles had brought TM to the people in the 1960's, but we brought it into the 70's to an audience that was looking for something alternative."
(EW&F interview, Goldmine Magazine, January 1998) Their song "Serpentine Fire" is based on the new age teachings found in Shah Kriza Yogi Meditation Cult.
On the back of Earth, Wind and Fire’s Greatest Hits Vol. I has this enlightening statement: "Looking back to the pyramids and forward to the eternal cosmos, Earth, Wind and Fire conjured up some of the most enduring songs of our time." Incredible. The word "conjure" means, "to call upon or command a devil or spirit by invocation or spell." <www.infoplease.com> And this is from their own album – their own words!
http://www.av1611.org/crock/images/pog_jupiter.jpgOn many of their album covers is the occult symbol for the god of Jupiter. Earth, Wind and Fire’s song Jupiter describes a "visit" from a superman-Avatar "light being" named Jupiter. Interesting, the name Lucifer means "light bearer".
Searching in the sky one night, while looking for the moon
I viewed a mighty light approaching in a zoom.
Need was there to tell someone of my discovery
Fifteen seconds later, a light appeared in front of me
To my surprise, there stood a man with age and mystery
His name was Jupiter and came to visit me
The name is Jupiter, from the galaxy
I came to meet you, to make you free
Deliver to you a flower from
A distant planet, from where I come

Keep your eye on Jupiter, such beauty in the sky
We will wait for your return in the by and by
Jupiter, Earth, Wind and Fire
Do you know who Jupiter is? Occult research author, William Hutchinson says Jupiter is "painted with horns" and "he is the same as Baal. . ." (William Hutchinson, The Spirit of Masonry, pp. 82-83) Satanist Anton LaVey, writes in The Satanic Bible, "The Phoenicians worshipped a fly god, Baal, from which comes the devil, Beelzebub. . ." (Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Bible, p. 60) Anyone slightly familiar with the Bible recognizes Baal as the devil worshipped in the Old Testament.
In Jeremiah 19:5, the followers of Baal burnt their sons for a human sacrifice to Baal.
They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:
Jeremiah 19:5 There is no question to the motive, message, and mission of the music of Earth, Wind and Fire. None. They proudly and loudly boast of their occult message and mission.
THE OCCULT IMAGERY OF EARTH, WIND AND FIRE
http://www.av1611.org/crock/images/pog_ewf1.jpg
Notice the Jupiter Symbol and
the god Dagon in the background.

http://www.av1611.org/crock/images/pog_ewf2.jpg

http://www.av1611.org/crock/images/earth_wind_5.gif

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
12-10-2007, 07:14 PM
Looks like the ever seeing eye at the center

LORD NOSE
12-10-2007, 07:29 PM
Looks like the ever seeing eye at the center




http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7638/jarrettjupitercolorlv7.jpg






Jupiter (http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/jarrett/jarrett_jupiter-color.jpg)
from the Big Eye


This image was captured UT May 14, 2006 at 06:46:10, using the wide-field infrared camera (WIRC) with 2um filters under perfect viewing conditions (seeing ~0.6"). The bright "blue" spot in the upper left is the Galilean moon Io transiting across the face of Jupiter. Check out more pix of Jupiter from the Caltech

Koolish
12-10-2007, 08:03 PM
i liked that third video where the guy talks about the egyptians using psychedelic drugs to contact alien creators. you don't hear a theory like that very often.

V4D3R
12-10-2007, 08:06 PM
^^Search Magic Mushroom thread

SID
12-11-2007, 05:41 AM
The planet Saturn is something else. It's worshiped by Pagan's.
The ancient Roman holiday of Saturnalia.

The Disclosure Project has a witness from JPL (Jet Propulsion Lab) that state that many many enormous sized ships were seen there.

It's moon Iapetus is the weirdest moon in the solar system. Almost has the same shape of the Ying/Yang symbol on it. It has the same orbit as our moon - same side facing it's planet. Only two known objects in the universe to do that.

http://www.solarviews.com/thumb/sat/viapetus.gif

a moon with a 12 mile high mountain range along it's equator.

http://www.solarviews.com/browse/vss/VSS00056.jpg

and honey combs all along the surface.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/images_v2/Iapetus/Iapetus-Color-High-Res-s.jpg



And then there's the Hexagonal cloud formation on Saturn's north pole.


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intresting vader.....

i have always felt an aura round saturn when i look at it and speak about it...iam not suprised it is worshipped by the christians, its proberly worshipped by a lot of other religons as well, just personified

SID
12-11-2007, 05:43 AM
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7638/jarrettjupitercolorlv7.jpg






Jupiter (http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/jarrett/jarrett_jupiter-color.jpg)
from the Big Eye


This image was captured UT May 14, 2006 at 06:46:10, using the wide-field infrared camera (WIRC) with 2um filters under perfect viewing conditions (seeing ~0.6"). The bright "blue" spot in the upper left is the Galilean moon Io transiting across the face of Jupiter. Check out more pix of Jupiter from the Caltech


dude thats some thermal imaging shit...it dont mean its the eye, we dont want to change this revival of KTL, into a collection of eccentric theroies and shit, lets keep it focused and informational

V4D3R
12-11-2007, 07:49 AM
dude thats some thermal imaging shit...it dont mean its the eye, we dont want to change this revival of KTL, into a collection of eccentric theroies and shit, lets keep it focused and informational

Not only is is just a thermal image, it's Galileo moon passing by Jupiter thats somebody is trying to pass as an eye..

LORD NOSE
12-11-2007, 02:32 PM
Not only is is just a thermal image, it's Galileo moon passing by Jupiter thats somebody is trying to pass as an eye..


dude thats some thermal imaging shit...it dont mean its the eye, we dont want to change this revival of KTL, into a collection of eccentric theroies and shit, lets keep it focused and informational


yall go good together

SID
12-11-2007, 02:51 PM
^^shish, man whats with that, i was jus commenting on on that pic, it dont look like anything special thats all

V4D3R
12-11-2007, 02:54 PM
wow the ancient lower self

LORD NOSE
12-11-2007, 02:59 PM
^^shish, man whats with that, i was jus commenting on on that pic, it dont look like anything special thats all

thats just it - stop looking for everyone to bring in something special

you have a pattern of telling people that what they are bring to the table isn't worth shit - no diss - but you ain't bringing dinner

its that "ahh nigga you ain't shit" mentality that destroys the build and starts the fights

LORD NOSE
12-11-2007, 03:03 PM
Bring some real shit to the table of step the fuck off. And bring your fag shit to your trollita section.


your slang is Do Do

V4D3R
12-11-2007, 03:17 PM
No more its over.

V4D3R
12-11-2007, 03:18 PM
This is something that divided us - bigger things then us meant to divide us as we got stronger...

LORD NOSE
12-11-2007, 03:32 PM
You came in my thread with a picture of Jupiter with a moon in front of it - and implied the shit is an eye...da fucc out of here man. Your the one that ruins a good build with your whack ass shit.

Bring reality and right knowledge. Or say nothing.

One thing Nuwaub taught me is to use that...you need to follow suit and quit bringing your woman like emotions to the table.

thought you said that York was a Pedo

but now you using Nuwaubu Cliche


hmmm . suspect

as far as the pic is concerned

its a picture of jupiter, with a moon in front of it
so the fuck what
what was you expecting ?


Originally Posted by V4D3R http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=985169#post985169)
The planet Saturn is something else. It's worshiped by Pagan's.
The ancient Roman holiday of Saturnalia.

The Disclosure Project has a witness from JPL (Jet Propulsion Lab) that state that many many enormous sized ships were seen there.

It's moon Iapetus is the weirdest moon in the solar system. Almost has the same shape of the Ying/Yang symbol on it. It has the same orbit as our moon - same side facing it's planet. Only two known objects in the universe to do that.

http://www.solarviews.com/thumb/sat/viapetus.gif

a moon with a 12 mile high mountain range along it's equator.




Shut the fuck up V

V4D3R
12-11-2007, 03:39 PM
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Prolifical ENG
12-11-2007, 03:52 PM
There are many moons in the solar system that are spin orbit coupled with the planet they orbit around (showing same face to the planet). It takes eons for this equilibrium to be established.

That ridge along the equator? Moons have high tides on it too...imagine Earth's high tides amplified many times....if moons had water on it, there would be constant storms on it.

And IO aka the pizza planet is my favourite moon. This moon probably has the highest tides on it. Besides orbiting the lowest of Jupiters gallolain moons it is just outside the Roche limit. If it got any closer it would have probably exploded and added to the planet's rings. Every time IO orbits around Jupiter and passes the moons on the outside (notably callisto), there is an extreme amount of tension on it due to all the tides. Thats why IO is pretty much a ball of lava and has a huge bulge on the equator.

V4D3R
12-11-2007, 03:55 PM
^^ I studied that there are only two moons with that orbit Pro.

Our moon and Iapetus

Prolifical ENG
12-11-2007, 04:44 PM
I dont know if those are the only ones tidally locked strictly 1:1 but heres a list of them.

I think the sun and Mercury and Earth-Venus, Pluto Charon are the only special cases.

The natural satellite has to be orbiting close to have a tidal lock.
List of known tidally locked bodies


Locked to the Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun)


Mercury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28planet%29) (in a 3:2 rotation:orbit resonance) Locked to the Earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth)

Moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon) Locked to Mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars)

Phobos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_%28moon%29)
Deimos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deimos_%28moon%29) Locked to Jupiter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter)

Metis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metis_%28moon%29)
Adrastea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrastea_%28moon%29)
Amalthea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalthea_%28moon%29)
Thebe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thebe_%28moon%29)
Io (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_%28moon%29)
Europa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28moon%29)
Ganymede (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_%28moon%29)
Callisto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callisto_%28moon%29) Locked to Saturn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn)

Pan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_%28moon%29)
Atlas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_%28moon%29)
Prometheus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28moon%29)
Pandora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28moon%29)
Epimetheus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimetheus_%28moon%29)
Janus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus_%28moon%29)
Mimas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimas_%28moon%29)
Enceladus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enceladus_%28moon%29)
Telesto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telesto_%28moon%29)
Tethys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethys_%28moon%29)
Calypso (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calypso_%28moon%29)
Dione (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dione_%28moon%29)
Rhea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhea_%28moon%29)
Titan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_%28moon%29)
Iapetus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapetus_%28moon%29) Locked to Uranus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus)

Miranda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_%28moon%29)
Ariel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_%28moon%29)
Umbriel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbriel_%28moon%29)
Titania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titania_%28moon%29) Locked to Neptune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune)

Proteus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteus_%28moon%29)
Triton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triton_%28moon%29) Locked to Pluto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto)

Charon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_%28moon%29) (Pluto being itself locked to Charon)

V4D3R
12-11-2007, 04:59 PM
This is what I mean Pro..

Same moon face always pointing towards the parent planet

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images_v2/Iapetus/Iapetus-space.jpg

So I learned that our moon is the only other moon that does this.

I meant satellite to be more specific. I learned about the Venus/Earth thing just recently myself...lol maybe from you.

Prolifical ENG
12-11-2007, 05:20 PM
Yes, it is called a "spin orbit couple" or "tidal lock" when a satillite shows its face like that. It is a gradual process over billions of years and it conserves angular momentum.

V4D3R
12-11-2007, 05:23 PM
Ok thanks.

So whats your take on the hexagonal cloud on the north pole of Saturn Prolifical?

Olive Oil Goombah
12-11-2007, 11:34 PM
shit is pretty cool

Prolifical ENG
12-12-2007, 12:26 PM
Ok thanks.

So whats your take on the hexagonal cloud on the north pole of Saturn Prolifical?

yeah i mentioned it to you yesterday, I guess I can post the explanation for this thread of what we found

"Tomas Bohr and colleagues made plexiglass buckets, 13 and 20 centimetres across, with metal bottoms that could be rotated at high speed by a motor. They filled the bucket with water and spun the bottom to whip up the liquid into a whirlpool that rose up the sides of the container.
This set-up is very similar to the rotating bucket that Isaac Newton used in the seventeenth century to investigate centrifugal forces.
The researchers found that once the plate was spinning so fast that the water span out to the sides, creating a hole of air in the middle, the dry patch wasn’t circular as might be expected. Instead it evolved, as the bucket’s spin sped up, from an ellipse to a three-sided star, to a square, a pentagon, and, at the highest speeds investigated, a hexagon."



http://skirmisher.org/the-universe/saturns-mysterious-hexagon-is-breeding-a-fresh-batch-of-alien-loving-loonies-as-we-speak/

V4D3R
12-12-2007, 12:33 PM
^^Thanks - to continue on the hexagonal trip here, no explanation for the hexagonal shaped craters on Iapetus so far.

Image

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA08384.jpg

Prolifical ENG
12-12-2007, 12:39 PM
^^^^^

yeah i see them now....dont know if something random (currents) was spinning fast on the surface or something :?

V4D3R
12-12-2007, 01:39 PM
But the bottom line is that it's been proven that the geometrical shape of hexagons can occur in nature - just another mystery that needs to be solved: how they happened to appear on a satellite's surface.

I never knew until today that Saturn has a total of 60 satellites (moons)

SID
12-12-2007, 03:05 PM
yes, its true just look at giants causeway in northern Ireland, its spectacular!!! and i never knew it ran from ireland to scotland, it was created from molten lava setting in a particular manner, or something like that

STYLE
12-12-2007, 07:08 PM
yes, its true just look at giants causeway in northern Ireland, its spectacular!!! and i never knew it ran from ireland to scotland, it was created from molten lava setting in a particular manner, or something like that

i had never heard of this place....


http://www.raphaelk.co.uk/web%20pics/Northern%20Ireland/first/Giants%20Causeway%202.JPG

http://www.raphaelk.co.uk/web%20pics/Northern%20Ireland/first/Giants%20Causeway%2010.JPG

http://www.raphaelk.co.uk/web%20pics/Northern%20Ireland/first/Giants%20Causeway%208.JPG

http://www.raphaelk.co.uk/web%20pics/Northern%20Ireland/first/Giants%20Causeway%206.JPG

V4D3R
12-12-2007, 08:57 PM
^^Thats really deep

Koolish
12-12-2007, 11:43 PM
that's fucking trippy (pretty high atm).

SID
12-13-2007, 05:07 AM
amazing aint it!, i was gobsmacked when i learned it travels from ireland to scotland (underwater), thats a very long way!

TSA
12-13-2007, 07:51 AM
http://www.av1611.org/crock/images/pog_ewf2.jpg



lol earth wind and fires a cult.

that's probably why they were so funky.

This symbol isn't of saturn it's Mazda the Zoroestrian(sp?) god or perisa. Since it was a monotheistic god, i don't consider it pagan

STYLE
12-13-2007, 09:02 AM
^^^yeah i just left that theory alone.
by that authors standards, many of us would be pegged as pagan subversives just by participation in KTL threads.

EWF is about spiritual amd menal elevatation thru music. the quoted author is confused and a hater. prolly melanin deficient as well.

knewcheeze
12-13-2007, 11:28 AM
yeah saturn is the shit

Sun Ra said he was from Saturn

when Saturn runs through your astrological house its gonna teach you some lessons

LORD NOSE
12-13-2007, 02:18 PM
^^^yeah i just left that theory alone.
by that authors standards, many of us would be pegged as pagan subversives just by participation in KTL threads.

EWF is about spiritual amd menal elevatation thru music. the quoted author is confused and a hater. prolly melanin deficient as well.

exactly

anything can be twisted like this

they would have you believe earth wind and fire - Jay Z and Kanye - all devil worshippers working for the illuminati


only someone spooked out and scared would believe such shit

LORD NOSE
12-13-2007, 02:33 PM
yeah saturn is the shit

Sun Ra said he was from Saturn

when Saturn runs through your astrological house its gonna teach you some lessons



Sun Ra - Space Is The Place


http://www.zshare.net/audio/549505083749ed/


Sun Ra - Rocket # 9


http://www.zshare.net/audio/549494595171c0/




__________________________________________________ __________

V4D3R
12-13-2007, 03:26 PM
^^^yeah i just left that theory alone.
by that authors standards, many of us would be pegged as pagan subversives just by participation in KTL threads.

EWF is about spiritual amd menal elevatation thru music. the quoted author is confused and a hater. prolly melanin deficient as well.

Melanin deficiency makes one confused and a hater?

There's no Sun where I live in the winter ( no pun intended). You think me getting pale in the winter is a melanin deficiency issue?

Some live in the sun, are rich in melanin and ARE confused haters.

Visionz
12-13-2007, 05:44 PM
I read recently, believe it was National Geographic, that due to the degree of tilt that Saturn's ring's are about to enter into, we'll no longer be able to see the rings from earth no matter what telescope you're using. It's gonna be like trying to read what's written on a piece of paper by only viewing it from the side...................from however many millions of miles away.

AcidPhosphate69
12-14-2007, 06:26 AM
Not trying to shit on the parade or whatever but I don't see the hexagonal crater on that moon. Is it the huge ass one? That one sorta resembles a hexagon but I wouldn't go as far as to call it an actual geometric shape.

V4D3R
12-14-2007, 08:51 AM
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA08384.jpg
look closer

AcidPhosphate69
12-14-2007, 08:58 AM
Eh, it does resemble one. For the sake or arguement...say it is a hexagon...what's the signifigance of that? I'm not trying to start a debate on that shit, I'm just curious to see what you're getting at.

V4D3R
12-10-2009, 04:18 PM
Eh, it does resemble one. For the sake or arguement...say it is a hexagon...what's the signifigance of that? I'm not trying to start a debate on that shit, I'm just curious to see what you're getting at.
the 6's is what Im getting at. The whole agenda.

A lot of people have flip-flopped their views since this thread started. Where do we stand now?

I apologize for being such an ass to certain members as I stated before and I see some have 180'd on certain - spook theories.

The Lucifer Project so far has turned out to be a hoax. So who is planting all these fear mongering theories out there? My only conclusion is either the devil is real - not a spook - and/or some people are acting devilish and a really big concerted effort is out there to turn people from simple plain God fearing religion.

lastest image.
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/files/PIA11682_full_movie.gif

V4D3R
12-11-2009, 12:42 PM
the black triangle u see in the pic^ is a photo enhancement error I read.

Prolifical ENG
12-11-2009, 01:09 PM
What spectroscopic channel did they use for that image?

The pole looks like its slightly out of range and could easily be an error or they used the pole as the starting reference point.

I read between the years 2013 and 2023 there will be extensive research in Saturn's atmospheric circulations.

Seems like there are thousands of eddies (relative eddies, could be bigger than Earth's hurricanes) coming off of a polar vortex. On Earth they mostly originate from the equator or a large weather system. This is assuming tropospheric circulation, that image could be stratospheric or even higher depending on how complex Saturn's atmospheric layers are. I read Saturn tropospheric circulation is extreme latitudinal.

V4D3R
12-11-2009, 01:24 PM
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov

Prolifical ENG
12-11-2009, 01:41 PM
ah, IR.

the next few days will be interesting for the Cassini. next flyby Titan will be in 6 hours from now.

Prolifical ENG
12-11-2009, 01:58 PM
Another thought, that hexagonal jet stream may be more of a 3D wave than a "stream". Looking at an oscillating wave from the pole going around it would look like that (thinking in 3D). That means the jet stream has 3 periods around the globe, making in a hexagon (6 global maximums). That means the atmospheric structure could be a lot more complex than Earth. But on Earth we know where the jet is relative to the surface (between 200-300mb). Then there is Saturn's "surface" for reference. The jet's height could vary a lot more than with Earth's seasons.

Just my initial thought...Im sure they thought of that too and analyzed it in detail.

Uncle Steezo
12-11-2009, 03:50 PM
not to try to bust bubbles as i think there is a lot more than meets the eye to the saturn issue...
a 6/3 standing wave can create a hexagon.
KfotfmhDrxM
the question is... why is there a standing wave on saturn?

Prolifical ENG
12-11-2009, 04:48 PM
not to try to bust bubbles as i think there is a lot more than meets the eye to the saturn issue...
a 6/3 standing wave can create a hexagon.
KfotfmhDrxM
the question is... why is there a standing wave on saturn?

This topic is all about busting bubbles.

Look how the different layers flow in that video (an upper layer flowing a factor faster than the previous). Perhaps the atmospheric layers on Saturn are more heterogeneous and no real mixing layer like Earth. Earth has hetrogeneous layers in the stratosphere and up. But the chemical composition on Saturn could be totally different...more molecular complex gases might be able to exist in those layers.

Uncle Steezo
12-11-2009, 05:07 PM
you seem to have a good grip on this, what are some causes for standing atmospheric waves?

Teh KillaBee
12-11-2009, 05:28 PM
I read recently, believe it was National Geographic, that due to the degree of tilt that Saturn's ring's are about to enter into, we'll no longer be able to see the rings from earth no matter what telescope you're using. It's gonna be like trying to read what's written on a piece of paper by only viewing it from the side...................from however many millions of miles away.

actually they are becoming more prevalent, it was a while back when they were edge on.

http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/tonights_sky/index.php

and yeah I'm a total space nerd

Teh KillaBee
12-11-2009, 05:37 PM
where I get most my stuff from:

http://hubblesite.org/
http://www.spacetelescope.org/
http://www.chandra.harvard.edu/index.html
http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/index.php

go here most days too

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

Prolifical ENG
12-11-2009, 05:41 PM
A cause for standing waves (long waves) are longitudinal uniform surfaces. On Earth the surfaces obviously are different and there are terrains near the surface and it greatly effects the air flows up to around 1km....and up to the tropopause.

Saturn is said not to have a surface. The waves are then preserved by horizontal movement, the vertical pressure gradient, and the Coriolis force.

Thats as far as I can go explaining that since I dont know what would have started the wave with no mountains to oscillate to infinity from (little atmospheric friction, canceled out from the Coriolis parameter being huge).

Perhaps the tides on Saturn could explain it...the moons are too small but maybe every time Saturn and Jupiter go by each other it creates a tide every couple hundered years. The forces can be calculated and someone can go back and see the record when Jupiter passed by. That had to be studied since even tides or Earth can be sensed from Jupiter.

Teh KillaBee
12-11-2009, 05:47 PM
all of you should install Stellarium too, kinda skimpy on good pics but dope program

http://www.stellarium.org/

what it is: Stellarium is a free open source planetarium for your computer. It shows a realistic sky in 3D, just like what you see with the naked eye, binoculars or a telescope.
It is being used in planetarium projectors. Just set your coordinates and go.

Uncle Steezo
12-11-2009, 05:54 PM
thx pro. makes sense. now if we can just get an explaination of the interference "sounds/song" coming from saturn.

killabee...stelarium is dope.

Teh KillaBee
12-11-2009, 06:04 PM
I've read the OG National Geographic from when the first mission to Jupiter happened. Was dope and I was brewing a nasty dump ftl

Prolifical ENG
12-11-2009, 07:45 PM
thx pro. makes sense.

I hope it did....thats as much as I could do with text without bringing the dynamic equations into it...then its pages of partial differential calculus.

Basically those wave principles are the bread and butter how inland weather forecasts are made east of the rockies.

Fatal Guillotine
06-18-2011, 05:16 PM
up

diggy
06-19-2011, 01:38 AM
Wasn't Saturn supposed to be rammed with a satelitte....turning it into a sun?

Fatal Guillotine
06-22-2011, 08:32 AM
I remember some Saturn UFO's hit the MSN a few years back, I think the French newspapers disclosed it.

Ringmakers of Saturn I believe they were called.


http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac84/pi31415/UFO/ee6e108b.gif


Here's the Newspaper article


http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac84/pi31415/UFO/e3c46520.jpg
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac84/pi31415/UFO/f728c8b5.jpg