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MosHigh
12-26-2007, 11:53 AM
As a DIE HARD WU FAN-atic....i must say i hate see all their dirty laundry. I don't know why now Rae and Ghost wanna do interviews and saying RZA is wack and owes them money. If it wasn't for the Ruler ZigZag Allah, nggas would probably be in jail or dead. I will always be a Wu-Head (just as I am a Hip Hop Head) but it almost brings a tear to my eye to think 8D is going to be the last WU album.

What are some of y'all thoughts on the matter? And I sincerely hope that a WU Member or "Employee" read this....Peace

DUMBO
12-26-2007, 12:33 PM
if you cry about 8D being the last wu album, you're gay.

MosHigh
12-26-2007, 12:46 PM
if you cry about 8D being the last wu album, you're gay.

What???? So, you don't care if they never do a group album again? If not then so be it, but as a fan of the entire group, as well as individuals, i would like to see them do albums forever. I mean, if them nggas were in their 60s and 70s putting out bangas I would cop it. But calling me gay because i'm fan putting my opinion on a Fan site....is really not necessary Dude. Peace

TGambino
12-26-2007, 01:44 PM
I don't know why now Rae and Ghost wanna do interviews and saying RZA is wack and owes them money.

probably cuz he owes them money an they think he's whack

Prolifical ENG
12-26-2007, 01:50 PM
If 8D is the last album, I will be happy....never know what to expect on another one.

Well business is business no matter how you look at it. If you get hired by a company and they trained you and you are their best worker, you will eventually make more money. When it gets to the point where your contract is up and go somewhere else for more money, seldom do people stay loyal with their first company for less money just because they "made" them. But of course there are exceptions if they know they are better off working with people they know, etc.

Perhaps without Raekwon and Ghostface, Wu-Tang (RZA's idea) would have never left the ground.

6 Brix
12-26-2007, 02:00 PM
lol evry 1 says like its beacuse of rza ghost is a rapper and isnt dead or in jail.
ghost has got skill and could of got a deal without rza bein in the clan just helped him
and as for being dead ? mabye ghost would got his ass a collage degree and moved away or sum shit i dont know

pep
12-26-2007, 02:09 PM
8 diagrams is a good way to go out

MosHigh
12-26-2007, 02:14 PM
lol evry 1 says like its beacuse of rza ghost is a rapper and isnt dead or in jail.
ghost has got skill and could of got a deal without rza bein in the clan just helped him
and as for being dead ? mabye ghost would got his ass a collage degree and moved away or sum shit i dont know

that's true, Corey and Dennis do got some skillz but don't you think they would've gotten lost in the flood of other NY MCs back in the '90s? I mean, WU stood out becuase they were different as well as were lyrical beasts. And I'm not saying that RZA may not owe them money, my thing is if you're suppose to be family and brothers and all that, why put shit up on YouTube, Myspace or any other webcast and talk about your brother like that, you know? Handle that shit behind close doors or on the block. Also, i saw some video with Ghost saying RZA never gave him the beat for "Life Changes" and was playing games by excluding him from the song which I do think is some shady ass shit. I'm not taking sides but man, to me these dudes are the best rap group/individuals alive and ever. I just hate to see the end of a legacy. I guess nggas have to find a new Hip Hop crew to fulfill their hip hop needs.

TGambino
12-26-2007, 03:22 PM
im surprised they aint go harder at rza to be honest if some nigga was laughin his way to the bank with my money id get at him.... ghost was in a court case wit rza for years before takin it public and the judge awarded him the money... ghost had to take rza to court to get his paper

MosHigh
12-26-2007, 03:26 PM
im surprised they aint go harder at rza to be honest if some nigga was laughin his way to the bank with my money id get at him.... ghost was in a court case wit rza for years before takin it public and the judge awarded him the money... ghost had to take rza to court to get his paper

yeah, i read that in an interview...man, this whole beef shit is like when i found out that Santa Claus was a fat phony...lmao. I guess when you got 9-10 muthafuckas in a business arrangement, things can always go smooth. Well, 15 years worth of beats and rhymes is still impressive, i guess.

Dominus Santorini
12-26-2007, 05:07 PM
Sounds like your taking it a little personal. Their inner (inevitable) beef came to light in 1997, as the tour collapsed, so for the most part they have been publicly beefing for 10 years now.

In my eyes, Wu-Tang hasn't been Wu-Tang since 2001, when they released Iron Flag and effectively disbanded in order to become solo stars and distance themselves from the Wu-Tang hierarchy.

If you go back and read the interviews from numerous Wu Tang related artists including Wu-Tang members, the problem doesn't actually directly reside with Robert Diggs Jr but his brother Mitchell Diggs. RZA has become the face of the Hierarchy, much like Damon Dash & Jay-z for Rocafella, while Burke is in the shadows. Same for Baby and his brother Slim, Baby is the face and Slim is in the background.

Mitchell Diggs has been the problem in Wu-Tang since its inception. For you fans that haven't been around since 1993, try using Google to locate it. Everyone should be well aware of the more recent bashing from Method Man, Raekwon and Y-Kim. Also it's well known that Oli Power Grant and Dennis Coles were enemies that became friendenemies. Oli Grant apart of the Wu Tang hierarchy.

I could go all day on this subject, which is probably why I will never lose sleep over Wu-Tang Clan ever, because it's a volatile group...much like all of the greatest groups in the world

SL33
12-27-2007, 06:16 AM
divine is a shady guy






'''''''My big brother Divine, he pushed the Benz well''''''

Bucellito 136
12-27-2007, 06:31 AM
cash rules everything around them that's why there will always be beef between them
wu tang wouldn't be wu tang without ghost and rae but i think they wouldn't be so famous
i agree with the fact that this beef was inevitable that's just cuz of $$$.
peace

MosHigh
12-27-2007, 08:51 AM
Sounds like your taking it a little personal. Their inner (inevitable) beef came to light in 1997, as the tour collapsed, so for the most part they have been publicly beefing for 10 years now.

In my eyes, Wu-Tang hasn't been Wu-Tang since 2001, when they released Iron Flag and effectively disbanded in order to become solo stars and distance themselves from the Wu-Tang hierarchy.

If you go back and read the interviews from numerous Wu Tang related artists including Wu-Tang members, the problem doesn't actually directly reside with Robert Diggs Jr but his brother Mitchell Diggs. RZA has become the face of the Hierarchy, much like Damon Dash & Jay-z for Rocafella, while Burke is in the shadows. Same for Baby and his brother Slim, Baby is the face and Slim is in the background.

Mitchell Diggs has been the problem in Wu-Tang since its inception. For you fans that haven't been around since 1993, try using Google to locate it. Everyone should be well aware of the more recent bashing from Method Man, Raekwon and Y-Kim. Also it's well known that Oli Power Grant and Dennis Coles were enemies that became friendenemies. Oli Grant apart of the Wu Tang hierarchy.

I could go all day on this subject, which is probably why I will never lose sleep over Wu-Tang Clan ever, because it's a volatile group...much like all of the greatest groups in the world


thanks for shedding some light on some things i was wondering about. I would since Mitchell Diggs and Oli as Ex Producers on albums but didn't know they were the cause of the some of their problems. And now that you mentioned it...you could see the disbandment in Iron Flag cuz that shit was rushed right after 9/11. Anyway, I'm done...Wu-Tang Ain't Forever....Just Diggs and Grice.

Gitche Manito
12-27-2007, 09:15 AM
What???? So, you don't care if they never do a group album again?

Personnally, I wouldn't mind.

The W and Iron Flag have never been in heavy rotation for me, unlike RZA, Gravediggaz, Killah Priest, Killarmy, Black Market Militia albums.

I could do without deep-space-nine albums, but couldn't do without RZA's albums.

For me group albums is dead since Forever.