View Full Version : It's a Demo!

01-15-2008, 05:31 PM
Most people ain’t trying to hear it when you are shopping them. Kool G rap couldn’t sell Nas to any label and it took Serch a while too before Columbia saw the potential. Jay even started Rocafella because nobody would offer him a decent deal. KRS started his Juice crew war over the fact that Mr.Magic wasn’t trying to hear his early BDP tracks. However, in retrospect it’s always fun to hear the first steps of artists who later became certified superstars (or at least much respected). This is for the listeners…


Most of these are not demo’s but early features and freestyles. It’s no secret Hova started out as a sidekick to Big Jaz, his feature on ‘Hawaiian Sophie’ is the best known one. The other notable features are with Original Flavor who had some momentum at the time, Jigga steals the show though. It’s also where he gained his first stage experience, touring with the crew.
‘What’s in a name’ cleverly uses some famous names from that time and ‘I Can’t get with that’(which was a b-side to in my lifetime on payday) showcases Jay’s fast flow.


This is supposedly the original demotape that G Rap and later Serch shopped around. All of these tracks have been widely spread on the internet, showcasing a pre-illmatic Nas that already shows the promise of one of the greatest. On some tracks like ‘I’m a villain’ and ‘number one with a bullet’ you can still hear the G Rap influence dominating his style ( G Rap also features on the latter), but on tracks like ‘Déjà vu’ the brilliance of nasty nas prevails. ‘Understanding’ also features the first ever appearance of a young AZ.

Notorious BIG

Most of the tracks featured on here are actually lifted from ‘the last king of NY mixtape’ that came out earlier this year. The quality is at times horrible and there is a loud mouth DJ screaming over them, but the material is just too interesting. Notable is the ‘unsigned hype tape’ that obviously won Biggie Smalls the UH spot in The Source. Some later demo versions of known songs and early freestyles are also included.

Snoop Dogg

This is actually a 213 demo in bad quality due to the cassette tape. But if you can listen through that you will hear a unique pre-chronic/deep cover Snoop going at it with Warren G. The unique voice stylings are already there, I wonder if this is the track that got Dre’s attention?

Wu-Tang Clan

Some people say that the Wu’s early work was badly engineered and had that vintage basement sound, but listening to these demo’s they stepped it up a lot one their later releases. RZA lays the foundation to the signature sound on here with some very early versions of later Wu-Bangers. The unique style and swagger that made the wu movement so big, with such an impact, is already evident. They did grow a lot from this 92 demo to 93’s Enter the Wu-Tang… and i’m glad they did.


This joint still sounds like the old school sound that KRS’ generation revolutionized. The influence of a Melle mel is definitely heard. Also the Synth/bongo sound didn’t make way for the JB breaks yet. The young KRS does already show his teacher persona attacking the crack epidemic of that time. He evolved from this powerful, yet rather average mc to one of the biggest Hip Hop artists of his generation.


O to the C made a lot of heads turn when his classic ‘Time’s up’ dropped in 94. His debut album is still an underrated 90’s eastcoast classic. He was first heard on Organized Konfusion’s fudge pudge, but the talented DITC lyricist had a demo out at that time as well. These tracks showcase an already mature artist that was ready for his ‘word…life’ and ‘jewelz’ records. A shame he never really made it above ground really….

Pharoahe Monch/Organized Konfusion

Speaking of OK, Pharoahe and Prince Po had their own demo out some years before that. The virtuoso flows of the duo (then known as Simply II Positive) are already evident on here.
The influence of a Rakim and a G Rap is more obvious on here, but the signature cadence is already there. On tracks like ‘Prisoners of war’ their knack for original concepts also shows.

Lil Fame/MOP

These are really Fame demo tracks, but since Fame went on to become one half of Brownsville’s hardest; MOP, i will look at it as such. These two tracks indicate the hardcore mentality of the young fizzy Womack, but the sound is still funky and less adrenaline induced- in your face than the later work the Mash Out Posse put out.

Common (Sense)

Com has always been artist whose artistic growth was evident from album to album. In retrospect his debut album ‘Can i borrow a dollar’ almost sounds like a demo. Here are two tracks from even before that record. Lifted from a mixtape again. But interesting enough to include in this list. With the success of his last releases Com has finally gained the commercial acclaim to match his talent and music.

Black Moon

The distinct jazzy laidback jeep sound from the Beatminerz combined with Buckshot’s gruff voiced singsong flows were not there from the very start. The same crew is responsible for this uptempo demo in a typical early nineties NY style. The bucktown attitude is already there, as well as the obvious talent and the duckdown chants. Interesting start to one of NY’s nicest movements from that era.

Dead Prez

Hip Hop’s favourite militant act of recent times started out as just that. These early demo’s indicate the same political mindstate that made them relatively famous, but have a more traditional eastcoast sound than the more progressive sounds and flows featured on their debut album (which had some of the earlier Kanye beats) and later work. Nevertheless these are some dope conscious tracks from the RBG’s.


Not really a demo, but still a great listen. This track actually had some monetum in the early nineties and features a young DMX without the style that made him a household name in the late 90s. with the decline of his career over the last years, the only time he makes headlines nowadays is when Darkman X clashes with the law. ‘Born loser’ after all??

01-15-2008, 07:01 PM
no doubt fam

01-15-2008, 07:05 PM
PLEASE put on MP3's I don't have a program for RAR. type files.........

01-15-2008, 07:56 PM
this is where I got winrar, totally safe:



01-16-2008, 06:46 AM
Props for sharing this dope material!

01-16-2008, 12:50 PM
good thread.

01-16-2008, 12:55 PM
Got any Mobb Deep from when they were Poetical Profits?

01-16-2008, 01:08 PM
i've heard most of these and its dope what they've become kudos 4 dis post man


01-16-2008, 01:31 PM
Got any Mobb Deep from when they were Poetical Profits?

01-16-2008, 01:38 PM


01-16-2008, 04:37 PM
nah all i got is those links srry

01-16-2008, 05:50 PM
mega props

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-20-2008, 02:17 PM
thanks for making this thread, speakonitgod.

03-18-2008, 12:57 PM
best topic on this site.

03-18-2008, 02:58 PM
great thread! props for posting this!

King Tron 1
03-18-2008, 03:01 PM
Great indeed, any others?

03-18-2008, 03:57 PM
Yeah it's a shame that record companies don't recognize talent when rappers are starting their career and they're trying to get signed. As soon as a rapper becomes successful, then the record companies wanna sign them LOL. Thank god for independent record companies. I saw a rap documentary on VH1 a few years ago and Run DMC talked about when they first tried to get signed to a label, record companies didn't wanna sign them because record companies were scared of rap music. Profile records which is the label Run DMC signed with was owned by 2 jewish dudes.

King Tron 1
03-18-2008, 03:58 PM
Yeah it's a shame that record companies don't recognize talent when rappers are starting their career and they're trying to get signed. As soon as a rapper becomes successful, then the record companies wanna sign them LOL. Thank god for independent record companies. I saw a rap documentary on VH1 a few years ago and Run DMC talked about when they first tried to get signed to a label, record companies didn't wanna sign them because record companies were scared of rap music. Profile records which is the label Run DMC signed with was owned by 2 jewish dudes.

That's why so many rappers go commercial and lose their talent.

03-18-2008, 04:01 PM
What do you mean? Are you trying to say that when rappers start their career underground, they switch up and go mainstream to sell records because they're afraid of staying underground?

King Tron 1
03-18-2008, 04:01 PM

03-18-2008, 04:11 PM
I think most rappers wanna have success and lots of money and that's why a lot of them try to go mainstream to get white people, asians, hispanics to buy their cd's instead of just black people. Most black people will buy a bootleg cd instead of buying the retail cd because a lot of blacks are poor and don't have good jobs LOL. Plus i think that most rappers think if they stay underground that they won't get a lot of money and success. I've always bought a retail rap album because i wanna support rappers so i've never bought bootleg cd's. But that was back in the day. As terrible as rap is right now, every rap cd i get is downloaded LOL. I think the last time i went to the record store to buy a rap cd was in 1999.

King Tron 1
03-18-2008, 04:18 PM
^^ Damn that's a long time. But there's never something wrong with bootlegs. As for the rappers just wanting money, they got no talent left, if any. I wouldn't buy any CD from rappers that's "hot right now", just cause I know what's involved "bitches, whips, and money". That's why both MTV & BET have gone to shit. They have to please the richest people there is and that's why you don't see dope skills anymore (at least not mainstream).

03-18-2008, 04:35 PM
Your right. A lot of rappers today have the same subject matter and they continue to rap about the same shit over and over and over again LOL. I respect and like rappers who rap about the problems in the black community and talk about education and intelligence. Fans of rap music can relate to that because that stuff goes on everyday and that's real life. Most black fans of rap can't relate to the subject matter of expensive cars, mansions, jewelry, lots of money and living the good life because most blacks are poor. So that's why i'd rather hear songs like Geto Boys The World Is A Ghetto, KRS One's Love's Gonna Get Cha, Black Cop, Sound Of Da Police, Ice Cube's Us, Willie D's Niggas Are Dying, Little People With Burdens and If I Was White because i can relate to those songs because that's real life.

pill happy
03-18-2008, 04:41 PM
great post, somebody rep that man.

King Tron 1
03-18-2008, 04:45 PM
I saw this type of bullshit coming a mile away, when I first got into rap I just listened to old school shit like EPMD, Big Daddy Kane, Run-D.M.C., etc. Some will argue that they have the same subject matter, but what some people don't realize is that back then it was a whole production. Now it's just "who's hot? who's hot? who's hot?" and it got annoying quick. I remember listening to Cash Money Millionaires thinkin that they weren't goin anywhere with that "bling, bling" shit. Now it's the norm, and like I've stated before, I did what most people don't do, go back to listening to the old shit of other rappers. But that doesn't mean I only like Old School or that I love everyone old school. I can't stand LL Cool J for the same reason he's falling off. I can't stand Doug E. Fresh. I didn't like Slick Rick at first. The only place I found that they make good music is in the underground, but again doesn't mean that just cuz you underground, you got dope skills.

9th Warrior
03-18-2008, 04:45 PM
thanks alot man, all this shit is dope.

Ernesto Lenin
06-15-2008, 01:57 PM
can someone re-up dead prez demo?

Maccabee Ridah
06-15-2008, 05:40 PM
Yo man, biggest props for those....
There r some of sickest joints ever....
Keep droppin them..............


P-Noid Brown
06-15-2008, 09:56 PM
awesome thread kid.

06-17-2008, 10:06 AM
can you reup the dead prez one please

07-30-2008, 03:47 PM
What's up yall?

Thanks to speakonitgod, he re-uped the Dead Prez promo stuff:

I would up it in one file but it's only 3 songs so you can just download em individually...

Dead Prez - Food, Clothes, Shelter

Dead Prez - There Are The Times (Novus Ordo Seclorum)

Dead Prez - Propaganda

Like I said, it's only 3 joints, but its honestly one of the best demo tapes I've ever heard. They have one more song that was recorded a while ago (as in a decade ago) called "Root of Evil". I have a really really shitty version of it on mp3, but if you wanna just check it out, go to youtube and search for it there. Peace.

07-30-2008, 05:02 PM

Mr. X
07-30-2008, 05:46 PM
Can we get a re up of the dead links?