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Sleep Sinatra
01-20-2008, 09:26 PM
i been tryna get into this cat forever, cant really find 1 track he SHINES on tho


any 1????

Guarded By Martyrs
01-20-2008, 10:16 PM
I got plenty of Esoteric tracks where he shines ?
I'll up some tomorrow.
Off the top check out :

Outerspace Ft Esoteric ~ Far Greater
A.O.T.P. ~ Pull The Pins Out
Celph Titled Ft Esoteric ~ Murder Death Kill
Jedi Mind Tricks ~ War Ensemble

I have some crazy freestyle session with him and Virtuoso tearing shit up.
I'll find them all tomorrow.

PEACE

Sleep Sinatra
01-20-2008, 10:35 PM
word thanx, i got war ensamble and pull the pins, he goes hard on both of those i just dont think he really outshined any 1

Tecknowledgist
01-21-2008, 10:50 AM
War Ensemble immediately came to mind, but you've already heard it. Another one is "Listen Up" on The Torture Papers. It's that sick Eso flow. I wasn't impressed with his verses on The Ritual of Battle though...disappointing

DJMethods
01-21-2008, 10:57 AM
God damn... No one mentioned "Mic Mastery"????? The whole Soul Purpose album he DESTROYS, the one and only 7L&Eso album I like, just purely battle tracks.

"I'm making sense like your whole albums record sales"
"The only wax you put out was candles on your birthday"

The guy can tear shit up but turned pretty gay IMO, battle raps suit him.

Mic Mastery;
http://www.zshare.net/download/6737027472a748/

DEVAMPS
01-21-2008, 11:04 AM
eso's a herb

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-21-2008, 11:10 AM
eso's a herb

co-sign. i used to think he was ill, but then i met him a few years ago. plus one of my boys was at the jedi mind show in boston when they were beefin with Virtuoso and Jus still, and Virt was in the area. when shit got hot, apparently Eso ran off quick.

buckshotstheone
01-21-2008, 11:47 AM
co-sign. i used to think he was ill, but then i met him a few years ago. plus one of my boys was at the jedi mind show in boston when they were beefin with Virtuoso and Jus still, and Virt was in the area. when shit got hot, apparently Eso ran off quick.

co muthafuckin sign

dude is a herb. i met him in the newbury comics i worked at and he was reading an article about himself, not at all an exciting guy, unlike Lif who is real nice

all you wu-tang fans should remember him on Speaking Real Words with Inspectah Deck and if you don't, you're missing out on a dope Deck verse

to everyone bringing up anything by Eso that came out at 2004, you are only gonna further the original poster's belief that Eso sucks, aside from War Ensemble there are no AOTP tracks that are halfway decent. he sucked on his last like 3 albums. if it ain't Soul Purpose or maybe, just maybe Dangerous Connections, it's wack


stick to the Speaking Real Words EP, that's that hot shit

venex
01-21-2008, 12:02 PM
he's very nice lyrically and the soul purpose album is great...


but i can't listen to him longer then 15 minutes...he has a hard battle-flow, but it gets annoying after a while IMO

Jeru
01-21-2008, 12:07 PM
His flow annoys me but he has some killer lyrics

Tecknowledgist
01-21-2008, 12:22 PM
"Yo, Esoteric, when you bringin' the pain, son?
It's probably gettin' done as we speak, like Jenna Jameson" - Celph/Eso - Captivate/Deactivate

Can somebody explain what the whole Virt/Eso beef is about? Weren't they neighbors?

buckshotstheone
01-21-2008, 12:50 PM
Can somebody explain what the whole Virt/Eso beef is about? Weren't they neighbors?


as a white male i will explain exactly why they had beef, cause every white rapper wants to be the only white rapper and because white people are more of pussies than others

Guarded By Martyrs
01-21-2008, 01:00 PM
Virtuoso will SON Esoteric.
Actually Virtuoso will SON most heads in my opinion.
I'll find those freestyle sessions in a bit.

Sleep Sinatra
01-21-2008, 01:34 PM
eso's a herb

lmao...

buckshotstheone
01-21-2008, 04:29 PM
Virtuoso will SON Esoteric.
Actually Virtuoso will SON most heads in my opinion.
I'll find those freestyle sessions in a bit.

yeah virtuoso might son most white kids from boston, but that's as far as it goes

Tecknowledgist
01-21-2008, 05:32 PM
yeah virtuoso might son most white kids from boston, but that's as far as it goes

I've noticed states of power have no alterior motive
Than to kill the inferior with corrosive chemicals.
The Virtuous Locusts internally tearing you with explosives.
Whole infirmaries scared of you 'cause you're throatless
My inferno be searing you till it's hopeless.
I'll incinerate you in my crematory.
Innovator, what I breathe is gory, disintegrate you, don't need a story
For the police. My flow heat leaves no evidence,
No sediment. I burn books, there's no testament
To the savage thing that the battle king does
When I stab and swing, slice Jupiter, slash Saturn's rings
Splinter Venus, then leave the man in the moon
Wounded in operating rooms being fed by intravenus.
Seen as off the radar, my dark laser
Will drop eight stars, and chop holes through quasars.
A powerhouse, brute force like rogue elephants,
Runaway rhinocerous. I cut out their esophagus.
Ask most, I'm half ghost, the last rebel.
Smash metal like cinderblocks tied to gas pedals.
Skull spit a full clip, chest left holy like a pulpit,
Head and neck snapped like a bullwhip.
Mind is an elaborate, cavenous labyrinth
Filled with ravenous savages that flow hazardous
Like rapids with white water. To fight slaughter,
I might order executions, slice quarters with mic cords
For retribution. I'll leave your life torn in destitution.
We need a resolution; your death is the best solution.
My evolution breaks down your institutional practice.
Fascists want my name on the blacklist.
Earth's axis, cracked with so much force
when I was born, it was torn from the back of Atlas.
I smash this track with Mjolnir.
Born Chief Viking Soldier. Zero celcius blood; life is colder
Like a polar cap in Nova Scotia.
Souls are at rest, as you digest a whole gallon of ammonia.
Born stoner: Mom smoked lye at my birth.
Fell from Heaven and was raised as a child of the Earth.
Reverse the first curse of the final conflict
Go beyond which famous landmarks Osam hit.
Kids armed with glocks, conference talks lead to concerts
Of nuclear weapons. Three years to this fate we've been destined.
Food for thought too hot for ingestion.
Spit wreckin' every intestine in your mid-section.
Blaze and scathe your place of residence, no trace of evidence.
Steal a briefcase from the president.
Lace residents of every race with letters sent,
Revealing plots and plans of which every man should be hesitant.
Angel of doom, carve his name in the moon.
Stop his wife from reproducing when I mangle her womb.
Let the anger consume, my mind'll hang your platoon
For sport. I'll leave your corpse laying strangled in tombs.
I'm burying neanderthal man, stab up a mastodon.
Ask Saddam who blasts the bombs. They run this like decathalons.
The Master's calm like Ghandi, but they got me
Cocky. Wanna see Virt convert to a Nazi?
Beta-Holocaust. It's too late to call it off.
I throw flows that burn foes like Molotov.
I burst on the scene. My words are machines
To murder your team. You want dope? I'm serving the fiends.
Blood-curdling screams heard as your team stretch on the rack.
Chest has been cracked, no cartiledge is left in your back.
I'm letting you rap; don't take the fact for granted.
It's like my biggest fan is trying to manage a plan which will do me damage.
Your man's fam is laid bare like damn pandas.
If they can't stand us, I make their back slam canvas.
Crush! Original bumrush, you lose.
We hard granite, the fucking best on the planet.
Shine for light years, steaming hot like the Amazon.
In your nightmares, but disappear when the camera's on.
A vampire: there's no captured image.
Raps smash your gimmicks till that ass is finished.
Boxing with walkmans, slap dats. Contact fists
With compact discs, scratch vinyl like a bitch.
Violent sprays leave my opponents in states of silent praise
Trapped inside the Tyrant's Maze. Fire will fry you in my iron cage.
My violent lions have been enraged
By violins and sirens that thunder from center stage.
Slicing throats every full moon like a lycanthrope.
Life is cloaked in darkness. Watch us knife the pope
Or any other faggot catholic bastard
Caught raping children. Kill him and gas the casquet
And throw a match lit, till it burns to ashes
And place the remains in an urn and smash it.
I'm the massive volcanic eruption that happens
When comets are thrusted through the Earth's crust
Into it's core for internal combustion.
Imagine if you heard a discussion between Stephen Hawking
And Aristotle talking, while comparing models of the Universe.
That's what it's like to follow when I use a verse.
The insight of my mind, is the height of design.
My rhymes: Frank Lloyd Wright in his prime.
So light up a dime and put it high in the sky,
Till it looks like the air is filled with fireflies.
I spark cheebas in the dark fiendish.
Bury your crew under the ocean so only the sharks see us.
My heartbeat is in perfect synchronicity
With whatever machine is circulating electricity.
Skill breach ethnicity. We'll beat you physically
Till you see God. That's a religious epiphany.
So it's no mystery, why we flow so sophistically.
Pain twisted me inside the rain of it's misery.
Linguistically, my cancerous shower
Cause a transfer of power. I'm the Man of the Hour,
How I keep time, make clocks stop to watch.
Leave time a verse behind everytime I rock the spot.
I'm the curse, too deadly(two dead Lee) like Brandon and Bruce.
MC's kick a verse, then I hand them a noose.
'Cause either way, once you run out of breath, it's certain death.
Believe what I say. What my lungs hold will burst your chest.
If knowledge is power then I'm the mental dictator.
My pen will rip major arteries. Who wants a part of me?!
Hail to the Great. I hammer nails in your face.
Barbarian ape, I spit; the sound barrier breaks.
Carry my tape. My voice travels on nuclear transportation.
Any rapper riding my style becomes a chronic Cancer patient.
My corrugated sabre blade is sharp as razors.
All invaders of my dark chambers. Hearts are in danger.
I'll throw a coat hanger down your throat, hang you heartless,
Stiff as starch is in a state of catharsis.
Fiberglass frames cry plastic mucus splinters
As your crimson blood spills in the Massachusetts Winter.
Throwing your staff in glowing baths of petroleum gas.
Photos I flash, blow you in half and now you're smoldering ash.
The essence of eloquence, I'm dominant. No resistance for a pittance.
I'll stop your portion of our coexistence.
I strike the paltry, the Holy, Taliban, and Papacy.
You're ballsy. My blade leaves you spaid for trying to rap with me
Slash vas deferens in half, past impotence.
Cowards are incompetent; my powers are Omnipotent!


Virtuoso can son whoever the fuck he wants to.

But, to stay on topic here. Esoteric's older shit is the best. Speaking Real Words is dope. Soul Purpose is a dope album. Stay away from Ego Clapper.

whers man get on that shit lol i wanna hear that

CommSense
01-21-2008, 09:01 PM
Eso is wack as fuck. That whole AOTP movement is pretty weak and corny. The only MCs that have skills are Apathy and Reef. besides them that whole camp is trash.

Tecknowledgist
01-21-2008, 10:51 PM
^^ Planetary and Celph

buckshotstheone
01-21-2008, 10:58 PM
apathy and celph

damn how many people does it take to identify 2 decent AOTP members

J.T.S.
01-22-2008, 08:52 AM
Esoteric he's like a white 9th prince.

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-22-2008, 09:43 PM
Esoteric he's like a white 9th prince.

wrong. 9th Prince can't flow on beat, and Eso tries TOO HARD to flow on beat. Eso is like a white biter of Jay-Z's flow/vocal tone a lot of the time, and completely bit Pun's flow when he spit his verse on that Battle Cry track off the first AOTP album. whatever the case, he's not original.

Tecknowledgist
01-22-2008, 09:45 PM
^^ He used the same flow on Listen Up, which I thought was ill

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-22-2008, 09:59 PM
to each his own. some heads only listen to the music because they like it, without regard to if the artist is true to his/her word. i can respect that, i just can't think that way when it comes down to it, because presentation on a whole is everything.

buckshotstheone
01-22-2008, 10:58 PM
to each his own. some heads only listen to the music because they like it, without regard to if the artist is true to his/her word. i can respect that, i just can't think that way when it comes down to it, because presentation on a whole is everything.

haha, eso too huh? you got a couple weaknesses, i see a consistency here

JEdoubleF
01-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Jedi Mind Tricks - Death March

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-22-2008, 11:30 PM
haha, eso too huh? you got a couple weaknesses, i see a consistency here

i know my shit ain't perfect, but i'm working my kinks out, and i know enough to look for em. at least i don't ride Jigga's dick, Buckshot. ;)

buckshotstheone
01-22-2008, 11:38 PM
i know my shit ain't perfect, but i'm working my kinks out, and i know enough to look for em. at least i don't ride Jigga's dick, Buckshot. ;)

the only thing that's soft as plush is eight-blows-a-gee

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-22-2008, 11:44 PM
the only thing that's soft as plush is eight-blows-a-gee

you're startin to sound as retarded as ya boy Knox.

buckshotstheone
01-22-2008, 11:51 PM
you're startin to sound as retarded as ya boy Knox.


hahaha, you did kill that verse though

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-22-2008, 11:53 PM
hahaha, you did kill that verse though

god damn right. don't ever try to challenge E.T.

buckshotstheone
01-22-2008, 11:55 PM
god damn right. don't ever try to challenge E.T.

haha, i was like Nas on Main Source with that joint

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-22-2008, 11:57 PM
haha, i was like Nas on Main Source with that joint

not even close, but you went for yours and got it in. i liked it.

buckshotstheone
01-22-2008, 11:58 PM
not even close, but you went for yours and got it in. i liked it.

just watch, anyone that hears that joint gonna be like "yo who's that cat at the beginning? he killed that shit, i want more of that muthafucka"

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-23-2008, 12:02 AM
"that cat on the beginning wasn't bad, but who's that cat at the end. he doesn't even say his name, and shits on the track just by having a ridiculously dope verse already written before even hearing the track. that's so dope!!!"

buckshotstheone
01-23-2008, 12:07 AM
"that cat on the beginning wasn't bad, but who's that cat at the end. he doesn't even say his name, and shits on the track just by having a ridiculously dope verse already written before even hearing the track. that's so dope!!!"

bitches be like "ooooooh i want the golden gun to hit ME with another shot"

Maxxx Millisecondz
01-23-2008, 12:09 AM
oh come on.......now even YOU have to admit that's a corny ass line. HAHAHAHA.

buckshotstheone
01-23-2008, 12:11 AM
oh come on.......now even YOU have to admit that's a corny ass line. HAHAHAHA.

hahahahahaah, i'm blunted, babblin' all disgustin'

Guarded By Martyrs
01-23-2008, 02:01 PM
yeah virtuoso might son most white kids from boston, but that's as far as it goes

Oh how wrong you are...

I've noticed states of power have no alterior motive
Than to kill the inferior with corrosive chemicals.
The Virtuous Locusts internally tearing you with explosives.
Whole infirmaries scared of you 'cause you're throatless
My inferno be searing you till it's hopeless.
I'll incinerate you in my crematory.
Innovator, what I breathe is gory, disintegrate you, don't need a story
For the police. My flow heat leaves no evidence,
No sediment. I burn books, there's no testament
To the savage thing that the battle king does
When I stab and swing, slice Jupiter, slash Saturn's rings
Splinter Venus, then leave the man in the moon
Wounded in operating rooms being fed by intravenus.
Seen as off the radar, my dark laser
Will drop eight stars, and chop holes through quasars.
A powerhouse, brute force like rogue elephants,
Runaway rhinocerous. I cut out their esophagus.
Ask most, I'm half ghost, the last rebel.
Smash metal like cinderblocks tied to gas pedals.
Skull spit a full clip, chest left holy like a pulpit,
Head and neck snapped like a bullwhip.
Mind is an elaborate, cavenous labyrinth
Filled with ravenous savages that flow hazardous
Like rapids with white water. To fight slaughter,
I might order executions, slice quarters with mic cords
For retribution. I'll leave your life torn in destitution.
We need a resolution; your death is the best solution.
My evolution breaks down your institutional practice.
Fascists want my name on the blacklist.
Earth's axis, cracked with so much force
when I was born, it was torn from the back of Atlas.
I smash this track with Mjolnir.
Born Chief Viking Soldier. Zero celcius blood; life is colder
Like a polar cap in Nova Scotia.
Souls are at rest, as you digest a whole gallon of ammonia.
Born stoner: Mom smoked lye at my birth.
Fell from Heaven and was raised as a child of the Earth.
Reverse the first curse of the final conflict
Go beyond which famous landmarks Osam hit.
Kids armed with glocks, conference talks lead to concerts
Of nuclear weapons. Three years to this fate we've been destined.
Food for thought too hot for ingestion.
Spit wreckin' every intestine in your mid-section.
Blaze and scathe your place of residence, no trace of evidence.
Steal a briefcase from the president.
Lace residents of every race with letters sent,
Revealing plots and plans of which every man should be hesitant.
Angel of doom, carve his name in the moon.
Stop his wife from reproducing when I mangle her womb.
Let the anger consume, my mind'll hang your platoon
For sport. I'll leave your corpse laying strangled in tombs.
I'm burying neanderthal man, stab up a mastodon.
Ask Saddam who blasts the bombs. They run this like decathalons.
The Master's calm like Ghandi, but they got me
Cocky. Wanna see Virt convert to a Nazi?
Beta-Holocaust. It's too late to call it off.
I throw flows that burn foes like Molotov.
I burst on the scene. My words are machines
To murder your team. You want dope? I'm serving the fiends.
Blood-curdling screams heard as your team stretch on the rack.
Chest has been cracked, no cartiledge is left in your back.
I'm letting you rap; don't take the fact for granted.
It's like my biggest fan is trying to manage a plan which will do me damage.
Your man's fam is laid bare like damn pandas.
If they can't stand us, I make their back slam canvas.
Crush! Original bumrush, you lose.
We hard granite, the fucking best on the planet.
Shine for light years, steaming hot like the Amazon.
In your nightmares, but disappear when the camera's on.
A vampire: there's no captured image.
Raps smash your gimmicks till that ass is finished.
Boxing with walkmans, slap dats. Contact fists
With compact discs, scratch vinyl like a bitch.
Violent sprays leave my opponents in states of silent praise
Trapped inside the Tyrant's Maze. Fire will fry you in my iron cage.
My violent lions have been enraged
By violins and sirens that thunder from center stage.
Slicing throats every full moon like a lycanthrope.
Life is cloaked in darkness. Watch us knife the pope
Or any other faggot catholic bastard
Caught raping children. Kill him and gas the casquet
And throw a match lit, till it burns to ashes
And place the remains in an urn and smash it.
I'm the massive volcanic eruption that happens
When comets are thrusted through the Earth's crust
Into it's core for internal combustion.
Imagine if you heard a discussion between Stephen Hawking
And Aristotle talking, while comparing models of the Universe.
That's what it's like to follow when I use a verse.
The insight of my mind, is the height of design.
My rhymes: Frank Lloyd Wright in his prime.
So light up a dime and put it high in the sky,
Till it looks like the air is filled with fireflies.
I spark cheebas in the dark fiendish.
Bury your crew under the ocean so only the sharks see us.
My heartbeat is in perfect synchronicity
With whatever machine is circulating electricity.
Skill breach ethnicity. We'll beat you physically
Till you see God. That's a religious epiphany.
So it's no mystery, why we flow so sophistically.
Pain twisted me inside the rain of it's misery.
Linguistically, my cancerous shower
Cause a transfer of power. I'm the Man of the Hour,
How I keep time, make clocks stop to watch.
Leave time a verse behind everytime I rock the spot.
I'm the curse, too deadly(two dead Lee) like Brandon and Bruce.
MC's kick a verse, then I hand them a noose.
'Cause either way, once you run out of breath, it's certain death.
Believe what I say. What my lungs hold will burst your chest.
If knowledge is power then I'm the mental dictator.
My pen will rip major arteries. Who wants a part of me?!
Hail to the Great. I hammer nails in your face.
Barbarian ape, I spit; the sound barrier breaks.
Carry my tape. My voice travels on nuclear transportation.
Any rapper riding my style becomes a chronic Cancer patient.
My corrugated sabre blade is sharp as razors.
All invaders of my dark chambers. Hearts are in danger.
I'll throw a coat hanger down your throat, hang you heartless,
Stiff as starch is in a state of catharsis.
Fiberglass frames cry plastic mucus splinters
As your crimson blood spills in the Massachusetts Winter.
Throwing your staff in glowing baths of petroleum gas.
Photos I flash, blow you in half and now you're smoldering ash.
The essence of eloquence, I'm dominant. No resistance for a pittance.
I'll stop your portion of our coexistence.
I strike the paltry, the Holy, Taliban, and Papacy.
You're ballsy. My blade leaves you spaid for trying to rap with me
Slash vas deferens in half, past impotence.
Cowards are incompetent; my powers are Omnipotent!


Virtuoso can son whoever the fuck he wants to.

But, to stay on topic here. Esoteric's older shit is the best. Speaking Real Words is dope. Soul Purpose is a dope album. Stay away from Ego Clapper.

whers man get on that shit lol i wanna hear that

Thank you for that colossal verse.
I agree Virtuoso is untouchable.
That freestyle session is on a CD somewhere...
I'm gonna have a look for it.

apathy and celph

damn how many people does it take to identify 2 decent AOTP members

Outerspace...

Guarded By Martyrs
01-23-2008, 03:06 PM
Here are those 2 freestyle sessions...

Virtuoso & Esoteric ~ Gillotine Freestyle

http://www.zshare.net/download/681316756fca25/


Virtuoso & Esoteric ~ Back & Forth Freestyle

http://www.zshare.net/download/6813984f97b1f4/

youngdeck01
01-23-2008, 06:21 PM
I think eso is def one the illest cats out. Last album he did, "Egoclapper", wasnt bad for his first album by himself makin most the beats himself n still rappin. But his older stuff you cant touch, if u aint hear em, u need to peep atleast these to start...

-Learn From The Druid
-Mic Mastery
-War Ensamble
-Warning-Knife in the Face
-Verbal Assault
-Rise of the Rebel