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STYLE
01-24-2008, 05:07 PM
this is where we discuss the relationship between man and god. if you do not believe in a god (human or otherwise) the please do not post, as this discussion is rooted in belief that God exists.
question
1. what is the nature of man as he relates to god?
my answer:
Man is the physical expression of God, all aspects of God are represented in man. identical in nature but not in magnitude.
i will elaborate as the discussion continues.
Black Man
01-24-2008, 05:18 PM
this is where we discuss the relationship between man and god. if you do not believe in a god (human or otherwise) the please do not post, as this discussion is rooted in belief that God exists.
question
1. what is the nature of man as he relates to god?
my answer:
Man is the physical expression of God, all aspects of God are represented in man. identical in nature but not in magnitude.
i will elaborate as the discussion continues.
Question: Can an individual observe your god? Can your god be detected by using the five senses?
STYLE
01-24-2008, 05:44 PM
the 5 senses do not define what is real and what is not.
can you see infra red light ?
can you prove love exists with any of your senses?
prove that anger is real.
explain how a dog whistle works.
the 5 senses are your minds interpretation of external stimuli.
human senses are subject to the range of stimuli they csn detect.
but stick to the topic.
Black Man
01-24-2008, 05:48 PM
the 5 senses do not define what is real and what is not.
can you see infra red light ?
can you prove love exists with any of your senses?
prove that anger is real.
the 5 senses are your minds interpretation of external stimuli.
but stick to the topic.
I AM STICKING TO THE TOPIC.
INFRA RED LIGHT CAN BE DETECTED BY USING THE FIVE SENSES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL LOVE, BUT I CAN DETECT LOVE USING MY FIVE SENSES JUST AS I CAN WITH ANGER.
the relationship between man and god
MY QUESTION STILL STANDS.
Question: Can an individual observe your god? Can your god be detected by using the five senses?
STYLE
01-24-2008, 05:58 PM
I AM STICKING TO THE TOPIC.
INFRA RED LIGHT CAN BE DETECTED BY USING THE FIVE SENSES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL LOVE, BUT I CAN DETECT LOVE USING MY FIVE SENSES JUST AS I CAN WITH ANGER.
how? you can see beyond the visible light spectrum?!?!
prove that anger is real. i suggest that anger is nothing more than an electro chemical reaction that is characterized by a set of standard behavior. but the emotion of anger is not real.
How can you distinguish between love and someone acting like they love you? or does the behavior determine the reality? meaning ,if they do the things that lovers do then they are in love?
MY QUESTION STILL STANDS.
Question: Can an individual observe your god? Can your god be detected by using the five senses?
yes. now answer my Original question
1. what is the nature of man as he relates to god?
Black Man
01-24-2008, 06:05 PM
how? you can see beyond the visible light spectrum?!?!
prove that anger is real. i suggest that anger is nothing more than an electro chemical reaction that is characterized by a set of standard behavior. but the emotion of anger is not real.
How can you distinguish between love and someone acting like they love you? or does the behavior determine the reality? meaning ,if they do the things that lovers do then they are in love?
yes. now answer my Original question
1. what is the nature of man as he relates to god?
STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE. INFRARED LIGHT, LOVE, ANGER.....YOUR WAY OFF TOPIC. IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THOSE TOPICS....LOVE, ANGER, INFRARED LIGHT WE CAN, BUT THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT THAT.
I SEE YOU EITHER CAN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION OR SIMPLY DON'T WANT TO ANSWER MY QUESTION.
(BLACK)MAN IS GOD.
Black Man
01-24-2008, 06:10 PM
JUST IN CASE YOU FORGOT MY QUESTION
Question: Can an individual observe your god? Can your god be detected by using the five senses?
STYLE
01-24-2008, 06:17 PM
Answer : yes and yes. the universe itself is observable.
but i'm not going to keep asking you questions then you respond with a question.
if this build is to be meaningful, it is critical that you inject your own understanding into it. i think the 1st thing to do is to define who/what god is, and how he relates to man.
then we can explore the reasoning behind that definition.
if you wanna play mental chess then we need to remove the confines of "keeping on topic"
Black Man
01-24-2008, 06:24 PM
Answer : yes and yes. the universe itself is observable.
I DIDN'T ASK IF THE UNIVERSE ITSELF IS OBSERVABLE I ASKED IS YOUR GOD OBSERVABLE.
but i'm not going to keep asking you questions then you respond with a question.
YOU'RE ASKING ME QUESTIONS BECAUSE OF MY QUESTION. ASKING ABOUT LOVE AND ANGER AND INFRARED LIGHT AS IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT. MY QUESTION WAS A DIRECT QUESTION BASED ON THE TOPIC AT HAND.
if this build is to be meaningful, it is critical that you inject your own understanding into it. i think the 1st thing to do is to define who/what god is, and how he relates to man.
I CAN'T GIVE YOU MY UNDERSTANDING ALL I CAN DO IS GIVE YOU KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM. UNDERSTANDING...YOU GOTTA GET THAT ON YOUR OWN FOR NO PERSON CAN GIVE ANOTHER PERSON UNDERSTANDING.
I ASKED QUESTIONS TO THE "AUTHOR" OF THIS THREAD SO I CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH "GOD" "MAN" AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP.
if you wanna play mental chess then we need to remove the confines of "keeping on topic"
IT SOUNDS LIKE THATS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. I INITIALLY ASKED TWO QUESTIONS AND YOU RESPONDED WITH A FEW QUESTIONS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR TOPIC.
AND I ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.....(BLACK)MAN IS GOD
STYLE
01-24-2008, 06:32 PM
okay i play b y your rules since you can't play by mine.
yes you can observe god using the 5 senses.
i didn't ask u to give me understanding. i asked you to inject your understanding into the conversation. in other words, filter the info thru your own reasoning. but since we are on that subject, you can't give knowledge or wisdom either. when you share those things, they become information which i must process into my own knowledge and wisdom.
LORD NOSE
01-24-2008, 08:06 PM
this is where we discuss the relationship between man and god. if you do not believe in a god (human or otherwise) the please do not post, as this discussion is rooted in belief that God exists.
question
1. what is the nature of man as he relates to god?
my answer:
Man is the physical expression of God, all aspects of God are represented in man. identical in nature but not in magnitude.
i will elaborate as the discussion continues.
you would have to be absolutely positive of what god is and isn't to be able to answer these questions - people have ideas of what god is, most if not all of these ideas were put into peoples heads by other people who had ideas of what this god is -
your answer is like a b-ball show - the players are out on the field being watched and admired by an entertained audience - while the coach is on the side lines...coaching. But God (the owner) is in the nose bleed sections in the dark somewhere, no one knows who he is.
too many concepts - too many beliefs
Cthulhu
01-24-2008, 10:29 PM
this is where we discuss the relationship between man and god. if you do not believe in a god (human or otherwise) the please do not post, as this discussion is rooted in belief that God exists.
So basically you're saying that you want this to be a one-sided discussion.
diggy
01-24-2008, 11:00 PM
To know the relationship of man to god, we have to know what is man and what is god.
How can you know the one is like the other? What comparisons do we have?
STYLE
01-24-2008, 11:18 PM
So basically you're saying that you want this to be a one-sided discussion.
this is a more specific conversation. we know where u stand and thats cool. this thread is for believers. atheistic comments will do nothing but distract.
You feel left out? welcome to earth. you, as an atheist, are part of a very small minority.
to address the other comments... well what do you believe?
Koolish
01-24-2008, 11:45 PM
i remember in grade 12 philosophy learning about "common sense realism" which is a philosophical standpoint that states the truth is only definable through the five senses, or basic common sense.
unfortunately, it was only one theory amongst many.
too many people believe that it is the only intellectual path.
Visionz
01-25-2008, 12:23 AM
It funny that as I read this I was thinking about starting up a thread because I feel at times like the Voice of All Creation is traveling directly through me. I'll be writing and then I have this overwhelming feeling of just letting my fingers fly faster than I could ever type and thoughts that I'm not really thinking so much as channeling. Its a very intense experience. The last time it happened was just now and this was what it was, (partially)
All I could watch was the sick disgust of the pounds piling on like a warm blanket of your own decay. I did’t come here to tell you that the words where going to be easy the fasdct is that a lot of your need ot bel told the cold hard truth.
that's without editing, its almost uncontrollable so by the mistypes I hope to give some sense of the experience itself.
Black Man
01-25-2008, 10:04 AM
yes you can observe god using the 5 senses.
Have you observed god personally? If yes, what were your observations? What does god look like?
Now that we know we can observe god using the 5 senses then we can begin to define the real relationship between man and god because now we have an observable source to observe so that god can be known and not believed in.
STYLE
01-25-2008, 10:07 AM
^^^i feel u^^^
you are channeling from what is called the subjective realm or for lack of better terms the spiritual world or imagination.
there are methods to switch from mental "dial up" to "broadband", where you can get these experiences "on demand". lol
i feel this mostly when i am writing lyrics or specifically freestyling. isn't it crazy? you can get into a zone and not even have think about what you are saying. but it comes out so dope.
its like you are just translating or dictating a speech thats coming from somewhere outside of yourself.
Koolish
01-25-2008, 10:53 AM
the whole stream of consciousness flow thing to me expresses tao.
you are letting go of the need to analyze your actions, and in accepting nature you let spontaneity flow through you (spontaneity, do without doing: taoist concepts). Tao is the flow of the universe, and when you just allow things to happen you express its potential within the self.
Black Man
01-25-2008, 01:33 PM
okay i play b y your rules since you can't play by mine.
yes you can observe god using the 5 senses.
i didn't ask u to give me understanding. i asked you to inject your understanding into the conversation. in other words, filter the info thru your own reasoning. but since we are on that subject, you can't give knowledge or wisdom either. when you share those things, they become information which i must process into my own knowledge and wisdom.
Have you actually observed god directly? If so, what were your observations?
Have you actually observed god directly? If so, what were your observations?
still thinking
Have you actually observed god directly? If so, what were your observations?
still thinking
Visionz
02-09-2008, 12:06 PM
Have you actually observed god directly? If so, what were your observations?that's such a subjective question and really depends on the outlook of one's perception. For instance, by all accounts here, you concept of God begins and ends with the Black man, all cool, to each their own, nawmean. But for me, God reveals Herself in the nature around me. God is there in the trees blowing, there in the snow-capped mountains. My obersvations is that God loves variety and color, loves humbleness and dedication, loves harmony and mutually beneficial relationships, etc.
Black Man
02-09-2008, 12:45 PM
that's such a subjective question and really depends on the outlook of one's perception. For instance, by all accounts here, you concept of God begins and ends with the Black man, all cool, to each their own, nawmean. But for me, God reveals Herself in the nature around me. God is there in the trees blowing, there in the snow-capped mountains. My obersvations is that God loves variety and color, loves humbleness and dedication, loves harmony and mutually beneficial relationships, etc.
My understanding of who and what is god has nothign to do with my question to stylemaster. I asked him that question based on our conversation and what HE said about god, not what I say about god. Stylemaster said you can observe god. If you follow how things unfolded you would see this.
To you I ask what is God?
Visionz
02-09-2008, 01:13 PM
God is the source from which all life and all things come
Black Man
02-09-2008, 01:56 PM
God is the source from which all life and all things come
Then god can't be a woman as you referred to god as herself...god is not a her for a female is not the source of all life.
allah truth
02-10-2008, 07:07 PM
god is the combination of all the souls of men. so technically "he" doesn't exist. and won't until we all unite. but, as an individual we all have divine power as we create are own realities physically and mentally.
now as a white man some may say im a devil. but whats a devil but a bad ass god. we fucked yall up. its been a white mans world. so whos god then?
LORD NOSE
02-10-2008, 07:31 PM
god is the combination of all the souls of men. so technically "he" doesn't exist. and won't until we all unite. but, as an individual we all have divine power as we create are own realities physically and mentally.
now as a white man some may say im a devil. but whats a devil but a bad ass god. we fucked yall up. its been a white mans world. so whos god then?
word of advice
don't use the PMs
STYLE
02-10-2008, 07:35 PM
I observe God in everything. this whole ball of wax we call "reality" is held together by the glue which is GOD. God is everywhere.
DUMBO
02-10-2008, 07:52 PM
man > god.
DUMBO
02-10-2008, 07:53 PM
I observe God in everything. this whole ball of wax we call "reality" is held together by the glue which is GOD. God is everywhere.
that is so fucking ghey it's not funny...
let me get this straight: god is your explanation for everything so far unexplained.... what a ghey cop-out
STYLE
02-10-2008, 08:11 PM
no just break matter down to its smallest composition. what r you left with?
if you were looking for a white man with a long grey beard as my answer.....sorry.
you gotta open that mind just a lil more. how can my definition fit inside your narrow understanding? at least give me some anal lube.
man > god.
keep thinking that.....smh
JusticeAllah
02-10-2008, 10:35 PM
The question as to the relationship of Man to God deserves an appreciation for elementary philosophy. By this I mean to say that the question is THE fundamental question of philosophy. Because of the way in which the question is posed there can be only 2 possible answers. Either Man is co-equal with God or Man is subordinate to God. If Man is co-equal to God then God is not supreme. So the very question presupposes that Man is subordinate to God.
The important thing is not 'what is the right answer?' the important thing is 'what is the right question?' The question, in this case, is a only statement that Man is subordinate to God.
The Buddha was once asked the same question and his answer was a non-sensical sound (like the bark of a dog)... I agree.
STYLE
02-10-2008, 10:51 PM
this was supposed to be a question directed to black man. but he wants to play philosophical peek a boo.
that was the reasoning behind such a direct and weighted question.
Visionz
02-10-2008, 11:13 PM
Then god can't be a woman as you referred to god as herself...god is not a her for a female is not the source of all life.He can be anything She wants to be.
brooklyn2
02-10-2008, 11:55 PM
everything begins with faith /2 many questions /2 much cofusion -if u believe in god and beleive that he will keep u safe u will know him yourself...
LORD NOSE
02-11-2008, 12:30 AM
you have to believe that he exist and have faith in him deep deep in your heart and thats the only way you will come to know him through Jesus christ the lord - he is the way
STYLE
02-11-2008, 02:13 AM
i don't know if i like this new attitude you have adopted sunny. ever since the vasectomy you've been saying some weird shit.
Black Man
02-11-2008, 01:22 PM
god is the combination of all the souls of men. so technically "he" doesn't exist. and won't until we all unite. but, as an individual we all have divine power as we create are own realities physically and mentally.
now as a white man some may say im a devil. but whats a devil but a bad ass god. we fucked yall up. its been a white mans world. so whos god then?
This is funny right here.
Black Man
02-11-2008, 01:25 PM
He can be anything She wants to be.
wrong.
DUMBO
02-11-2008, 02:59 PM
of course man is greater than god. man created god.
Cthulhu
02-11-2008, 09:59 PM
this is a more specific conversation. we know where u stand and thats cool. this thread is for believers. atheistic comments will do nothing but distract.
You feel left out? welcome to earth. you, as an atheist, are part of a very small minority.
to address the other comments... well what do you believe?
I would say that in a metaphorical sense, yes, man is god because man created gods. Reminds me of a popular quote:
"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"
– Nietzsche, The Gay Science, Section 125, tr. Walter Kaufmann
Visionz
02-11-2008, 11:38 PM
wrong.now this is the thing, your perception of god and my perception of god are not the same. So when you say something such as "wrong." I understand you're saying it doesn't agree with your own perception, however my statement that elicited the response was true to me regardless of your own outlook. As I see it, God is beyond sex for God embodies and displays the highest qualities of both male and female as we know it. When I speak of God the his/her qualities and such, it is both a conscience decision to acknowledge the feminine quality of God and to challenge others perception. At the same time, to argue about such things when our viewpoints are so different really is just semantics. We'd have to see eye to eye on alot more things for that particular topic to have any real kind of relevance.
Unseen
That was spoken well
To know the relationship of man to god, we have to know what is man and what is god.
How can you know the one is like the other? What comparisons do we have?
this is where we discuss the relationship between man and god. if you do not believe in a god (human or otherwise) the please do not post, as this discussion is rooted in belief that God exists.
question
1. what is the nature of man as he relates to god?
my answer:
Man is the physical expression of God, all aspects of God are represented in man. identical in nature but not in magnitude.
i will elaborate as the discussion continues.
still thinking
Black Man
02-12-2008, 08:45 AM
now this is the thing, your perception of god and my perception of god are not the same. So when you say something such as "wrong." I understand you're saying it doesn't agree with your own perception, however my statement that elicited the response was true to me regardless of your own outlook. As I see it, God is beyond sex for God embodies and displays the highest qualities of both male and female as we know it. When I speak of God the his/her qualities and such, it is both a conscience decision to acknowledge the feminine quality of God and to challenge others perception. At the same time, to argue about such things when our viewpoints are so different really is just semantics. We'd have to see eye to eye on alot more things for that particular topic to have any real kind of relevance.
first i don't have a perception of god. don't speak for me speak for yourself. i made my statement based off your definition of what god is. woman don't hold the weight.
feminine and masculine does not equal sex. you are speaking on the principle of gender and not sex. woman that's sex and woman will function just like all women function and it's not the same as a man when dealing with sex. with the principle of gender we are dealing with principles and forces not man and woman.
allah truth
02-12-2008, 12:30 PM
first i don't have a perception of god. don't speak for me speak for yourself. i made my statement based off your definition of what god is. woman don't hold the weight.
feminine and masculine does not equal sex. you are speaking on the principle of gender and not sex. woman that's sex and woman will function just like all women function and it's not the same as a man when dealing with sex. with the principle of gender we are dealing with principles and forces not man and woman.
your perception maybe god doesn't exist. well thats still a perception of god. when you were introduced to the idea of god you perceived whether or not he exists, if hes chillin in a throne in the sky or here on earth and so on and so forth. and your perception is obviously different then dudes. i don't know wtf that gender vs. sex shit you were rambling on about was
Black Man
02-12-2008, 02:05 PM
your perception maybe god doesn't exist. well thats still a perception of god. when you were introduced to the idea of god you perceived whether or not he exists, if hes chillin in a throne in the sky or here on earth and so on and so forth. and your perception is obviously different then dudes. i don't know wtf that gender vs. sex shit you were rambling on about was
do you know what my perception is? of course not so don't speak on things that you don't know.
LORD NOSE
02-12-2008, 06:25 PM
i don't know if i like this new attitude you have adopted sunny. ever since the vasectomy you've been saying some weird shit.
yes jesus is lord and you have to pray to jesus with all of your heart and soul to get to know god - and jesus is god - once you do this, you will speak in tongues and catch the spirit at church - this is when you finally come to realize who god is - when a preacher smacks you on the forehead and says "heal" you will be cleansed of all your sins and only then will jesus love you
amen
Visionz
02-12-2008, 07:28 PM
first i don't have a perception of god. (really? If someone ask you who God is, you have an answer right? isn't that a perception, outlook or whatever else you want to call it? maybe I'm missing something, is the term not definitive enough in your own mind?) don't speak for me speak for yourself. (promise you, I though I was :lmao: I just realize what I believe to be true is not the the same as what a NGE would hold true) i made my statement based off your definition of what god is. woman don't hold the weight. (if its based on my own definition then neither does man hold the weight)
feminine and masculine does not equal sex. you are speaking on the principle of gender and not sex. woman that's sex and woman will function just like all women function and it's not the same as a man when dealing with sex. with the principle of gender we are dealing with principles and forces not man and woman. That's true which is why I use Herself/Himself interchangeably, in either case I'm not referring to a man nor a women.
allah truth
02-12-2008, 07:45 PM
do you know what my perception is? of course not so don't speak on things that you don't know.
and so you have one
Black Man
02-13-2008, 10:05 AM
(really? If someone ask you who God is, you have an answer right? isn't that a perception, outlook or whatever else you want to call it? maybe I'm missing something, is the term not definitive enough in your own mind?)
most people who are asked, who god is will have an answer, that doesn't mean their answer is the right answer.
this isn't about what i say, it's about what you said. God reveals Herself right there you're already laying a foundation of who god is with that. It's a female, a woman, and not a principle.
(promise you, I though I was :lmao: I just realize what I believe to be true is not the the same as what a NGE would hold true)
this is what happens when people talk about things that they don't know about. i am not in the nge.
there's a difference between you and i concerning this matter, and that difrerence is you believe something to be true, you don't know. knowing and believing is not the same. you believe.
(if its based on my own definition then neither does man hold the weight)
i already knew you would say the above.....only a person who doesn't know who and what man is would say what you say.
feminine and masculine does not equal sex. you are speaking on the principle of gender and not sex. woman that's sex and woman will function just like all women function and it's not the same as a man when dealing with sex. with the principle of gender we are dealing with principles and forces not man and woman.
That's true which is why I use Herself/Himself interchangeably, in either case I'm not referring to a man nor a women.
when using those principle himself and herself are incorrect terms in the utilization of those principle of gender. nice try but based on your defintion of what god is, your god isn't god.
Black Man
02-13-2008, 10:06 AM
That's true which is why I use Herself/Himself interchangeably, in either case I'm not referring to a man nor a women.
also, if god is neither man or woman, then what exactly is god?
Visionz
02-13-2008, 10:56 AM
(really? If someone ask you who God is, you have an answer right? isn't that a perception, outlook or whatever else you want to call it? maybe I'm missing something, is the term not definitive enough in your own mind?)
most people who are asked, who god is will have an answer, that doesn't mean their answer is the right answer. The right answer? there isn't really such thing as the "right" answer, only oppinions that are agreeable with our own, that's the closet that anyone comes to being "right" when it concerns God
this isn't about what i say, it's about what you said. right there you're already laying a foundation of who god is with that. It's a female, a woman, and not a principle. nope, herself/himself, I use them inter-changeably (easier to type than the Grand Creator and such all the time)
(promise you, I though I was :lmao: I just realize what I believe to be true is not the the same as what a NGE would hold true)
this is what happens when people talk about things that they don't know about. i am not in the nge.
there's a difference between you and i concerning this matter, and that difrerence is you believe something to be true, you don't know. knowing and believing is not the same. you believe. And you believe you Know, I know God is real, I just stay away from speaking in terms of absolutes due to all the varying oppinions that are out there.
(if its based on my own definition then neither does man hold the weight)
i already knew you would say the above.....only a person who doesn't know who and what man is would say what you say. So man is the source of all life and all creation in the entire universe?
feminine and masculine does not equal sex. you are speaking on the principle of gender and not sex. woman that's sex and woman will function just like all women function and it's not the same as a man when dealing with sex. with the principle of gender we are dealing with principles and forces not man and woman.
when using those principle himself and herself are incorrect terms in the utilization of those principle of gender. nice try but based on your defintion of what god is, your god isn't god.So what do you call the source of life and all creation in the universe?
Visionz
02-13-2008, 11:03 AM
also, if god is neither man or woman, then what exactly is god?Exactly?? How much can a blood cell tell you about being human?
Black Man
02-13-2008, 11:18 AM
So what do you call the source of life and all creation in the universe?
i can call it what you call it, the only difference is what you call it you don't really know it, you know just a word and not the being that the word describes. remember you believe and i don't.
Visionz
02-13-2008, 11:39 AM
i can call it what you call it, the only difference is what you call it you don't really know it, you know just a word and not the being that the word describes. remember you believe and i don't.so sure of yourself in what I don't know. just cause you've convinced yourself doesn't make it THE truth.
Black Man
02-13-2008, 12:30 PM
so sure of yourself in what I don't know. just cause you've convinced yourself doesn't make it THE truth.
yes i am sure of myself about what you don't know when you express what is known and what is not. again, you believe. maybe you don't know and understand what that word means but it was you who said it, not me. i'm going by what you say. i know the difference between knowing and believing.
just cause you've convince yourself doesn't make it THE truth.
instead of standing on your word and what you BELIEVE you want to try and turn this around and attack my position. the thing is, in this thread i have no position.
Visionz
02-13-2008, 12:43 PM
yes i am sure of myself about what you don't know when you express what is known and what is not. again, you believe. maybe you don't know and understand what that word means but it was you who said it, not me. i'm going by what you say. i know the difference between knowing and believing.
just cause you've convince yourself doesn't make it THE truth.
instead of standing on your word and what you BELIEVE you want to try and turn this around and attack my position. the thing is, in this thread i have no position.wrong.
RzaRectum
02-15-2008, 02:01 PM
do you know what my perception is? of course not so don't speak on things that you don't know.
in this thread i have no position
You behave as though you have no position, because of your understanding/interpretation/whateveryouwanttocallit to be the truth, but you must remember that people argue/debate/discuss/build based on their own understanding (or lack of it). So, even though you argue not to have a position, you have taken a position whether you realized it or not.
Black Man
02-15-2008, 03:35 PM
You behave as though you have no position, because of your understanding/interpretation/whateveryouwanttocallit to be the truth, but you must remember that people argue/debate/discuss/build based on their own understanding (or lack of it). So, even though you argue not to have a position, you have taken a position whether you realized it or not.
what is my position? please tell?
RzaRectum
02-15-2008, 05:19 PM
LOL, Nice try. Your actions thus far exhibit drawing out the positions of others and correcting them (or chastising their chosen positions) and yet not reveal your own.
As observed by STYLEMASTERR, that is what was meant in the statement referring to you as playing "philosophical peek a boo".
So you see, you have a position. The question is, when will you reveal it.
Visionz
02-15-2008, 07:00 PM
he's already revealed that, his posistion is to play the arrogant know-it-all jackass.
STYLE
02-16-2008, 12:40 PM
Black Man ......smh.....the intellectual equivalent of a shemale.
caan u imagine a more perfect vehicle for this dimension/reality?
no. man is the only entity in this reality(that we know of) that exists in the physical and spiritual realm simultaneously.
Silfie
02-16-2008, 04:39 PM
this is where we discuss the relationship between man and god. if you do not believe in a god (human or otherwise) the please do not post, as this discussion is rooted in belief that God exists.
question
1. what is the nature of man as he relates to god?
my answer:
Man is the physical expression of God, all aspects of God are represented in man. identical in nature but not in magnitude.
i will elaborate as the discussion continues.
I would expect that humans are on the same level as God. Though they have different strengths and weaknesses, as do we all.
God can see all, which humans cannot. However, as God sees all, He cannot always see the smaller picture, which is what is required for us.
STYLE
02-16-2008, 04:44 PM
I would expect that humans are on the same level as God. Though they have different strengths and weaknesses, as do we all.
God can see all, which humans cannot. However, as God sees all, He cannot always see the smaller picture, which is what is required for us.
imo, god can see even smaller pictures than man. think quantum.
STYLE
02-16-2008, 05:01 PM
i think we are gods but just not in the magnitude of the prime creator
money!!
SAI-VU
02-18-2008, 06:16 AM
read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_intelligence
what is your definition of god stylemasterr?
RzaRectum
02-18-2008, 11:16 PM
what is my position? please tell?
Where the fuck did you go? You were supposed to tell us your position.
LOL, its like I rebuked the devil himself or something.
Black Man
02-19-2008, 10:13 AM
LOL, Nice try. Your actions thus far exhibit drawing out the positions of others and correcting them (or chastising their chosen positions) and yet not reveal your own.
As observed by STYLEMASTERR, that is what was meant in the statement referring to you as playing "philosophical peek a boo".
So you see, you have a position. The question is, when will you reveal it.
For a person who makes claims that they know, why don't you just tell me and everybodye lse what my position is since you know. If you don't know shut up.
Black Man
02-19-2008, 10:15 AM
he's already revealed that, his posistion is to play the arrogant know-it-all jackass.
did your feelings get hurt? you get mad because somebody questioned your ideas? awww poor baby. just for you we'll have a pity party.
i'll be that, but who has to resort to name calling?
come back with something intelligent and not something a little child does when they can't overcome their own short comings.
Black Man
02-19-2008, 10:19 AM
Black Man ......smh.....the intellectual equivalent of a shemale.
no. man is the only entity in this reality(that we know of) that exists in the physical and spiritual realm simultaneously.
just like the devil....you have to resort to name calling too. i thought you were an intelligent blackman i see my thoughts were half calculated. come back with something intelligent to say duke. you're mad too because you were asked questions that you weren't ready to deal with.
Black Man
02-19-2008, 10:22 AM
imo, god can see even smaller pictures than man. think quantum.
if you knew god then you wouldn't have an opinion on god you would know the facts and not express an opinion.
knowledge isn't an opinion and an opinion isn't a fact nor is knowledge. how are you speaking on things that you don't know about? that's not wise that's foolish.
Black Man
02-19-2008, 10:24 AM
i think we are gods but just not in the magnitude of the prime creator
is god different from the prime creator? if so, what's the difference?
Black Man
02-19-2008, 10:26 AM
Where the fuck did you go? You were supposed to tell us your position.
LOL, its like I rebuked the devil himself or something.
look at you making things up again, telling lies.
devil???? this is coming from a person who keeps a picture of homosexual acts being performed. i see where your head is at.
WARPATH
02-19-2008, 10:30 AM
A bunch of tornadoes hit the southern states and motherfuckers are still contemplating if man = God?
Coming to KTL is like listening to Lynne McTaggart on an episode of Coast to Coast AM.
Stupid bitch, Shut the fuck up.
^^yeah your right..KTL has gone to SHIT...START FOCUSING ON REAL ISSUES PEOPLE!!
dezmond
02-19-2008, 01:28 PM
God is everywhere.... Man is everywhere... God creates opportunities... man creates shit... Man=The devil....
RzaRectum
02-19-2008, 11:41 PM
look at you making things up again, telling lies.
Lies? Really? What lies have I told so far? You stepping into this arena pre-supposes that you were going to participate and build on man's relationship to god. Was I miscalculated in my judgement?
if you knew god then you wouldn't have an opinion on god you would know the facts and not express an opinion.
knowledge isn't an opinion and an opinion isn't a fact nor is knowledge. how are you speaking on things that you don't know about? that's not wise that's foolish.
Well now.. Since you know so much, why don't you just share with us the facts instead of your little diatribe on how little we supposedly know.
If you actually had something worth saying up until now we might actually get off of the Black Man's dick :lmao:
But seriously, I think I was mistaken in that you might actually have something useful to share. In truth, you're record in this thread reflects you to be just an antagonist hiding behind a pillar of so called knowledge.
What are you anyways, 5% nation?
Visionz
02-20-2008, 12:47 PM
did your feelings get hurt? you get mad because somebody questioned your ideas? awww poor baby. just for you we'll have a pity party.
i'll be that, but who has to resort to name calling?
come back with something intelligent and not something a little child does when they can't overcome their own short comings.hurt feelings :lmao: I just don't see any point in carrying on a conversation with a know-it-all expert in semantics. It's not as if this was going to eventually lead to anything. You stay in the corner with that shit you KNOW. I could honestly give a fuck less.
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