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TSA
03-02-2008, 07:29 PM
so i've basically decided working for other people is for hoe niggas.


SO, im starting my own business. I have 1 of 2 idea (already sent into the US Patent office so don't bite my steez please...or do it, you'll probably fail.)




1. A delievery service. Only for groceries...ppl call us, place order, we purchase duh merchandise, go to their house, they make the payment, whatever whatever whatever. Most of our revenue will come from paid sponsor adds that will be place in grocery bags depending on what items were purchased. would be great for large busy cities, and the poor.


2. A custom made mart. a small shop white computers and pictures of different cloths and shoes everywhere. Then a database with contact with every textile/shoe producer/ brand and designer. Then people place an order for the cloths, color, brand, look, whateva whateva whateva, we order it, it comes in, they pay.....would be great for anyone with some flava, and everyone for the fact that most towns don't have a good range of graments, and it gives you access to every brand you know and more, it also cuts the middle man, allowing for jewishly low prices.





should have made it a poll, but which one do ya'll think would work best and which one do you think will skamp out?

Magnum
03-02-2008, 07:48 PM
so i've basically decided working for other people is for hoe niggas.


SO, im starting my own business. I have 1 of 2 idea (already sent into the US Patent office so don't bite my steez please...or do it, you'll probably fail.)




1. A delievery service. Only for groceries...ppl call us, place order, we purchase duh merchandise, go to their house, they make the payment, whatever whatever whatever. Most of our revenue will come from paid sponsor adds that will be place in grocery bags depending on what items were purchased. would be great for large busy cities, and the poor.


That's not an all together awful idea. In england most of the major supermarkets offer home delivery, and it's quite successful because they're large businesses and will be getting revenue on the goods purchased to offset the costs. You won't have that luxury, and as a small business you're not going to get large companies queing up to advertise with you. So you'll be relying on small local businesses, and purely as an english example, i get a ton of advertisements through my door, usually fast food places (they're trying to poison us god) but i don't think those companies are paying much to whoever is posting them in my mailbox, so i dunno how much similair sized businesses would be willing to pay you for a similar service but again, thats a purely british example.

As for your other idea, well thats ebay but in real life isn't it? I usually hate ideas like that, that bring the internet to dumb people. but then again i have faith sooner rather than later the non-pc literate folks in the world will be dying off... but maybe i have too much faith.

Dokuro
03-02-2008, 07:55 PM
Good luck rember when going for a bussiness loan go local your more likly to recive that loan

Bg_Knocc_Out
03-02-2008, 07:57 PM
Your first idea sounds like Simon Delivers. You'd get alot of orders from schools.

Olive Oil Goombah
03-02-2008, 08:00 PM
The grocery delivery thing has and continues to be done. This aint the jungles of nigeria son.

SKAMPOE
03-02-2008, 10:24 PM
so i've basically decided working for other people is for hoe niggas.


SO, im starting my own business. I have 1 of 2 idea (already sent into the US Patent office so don't bite my steez please...or do it, you'll probably fail.)




1. A delievery service. Only for groceries...ppl call us, place order, we purchase duh merchandise, go to their house, they make the payment, whatever whatever whatever. Most of our revenue will come from paid sponsor adds that will be place in grocery bags depending on what items were purchased. would be great for large busy cities, and the poor.


2. A custom made mart. a small shop white computers and pictures of different cloths and shoes everywhere. Then a database with contact with every textile/shoe producer/ brand and designer. Then people place an order for the cloths, color, brand, look, whateva whateva whateva, we order it, it comes in, they pay.....would be great for anyone with some flava, and everyone for the fact that most towns don't have a good range of graments, and it gives you access to every brand you know and more, it also cuts the middle man, allowing for jewishly low prices.





should have made it a poll, but which one do ya'll think would work best and which one do you think will skamp out?

1 IS AREADY DONE ! PEAPOD FROM STOP N SHOP IT HAS IT

SKAMPOE
03-02-2008, 10:25 PM
The grocery delivery thing has and continues to be done. This aint the jungles of nigeria son.
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SaqurakiHanamichi
03-02-2008, 10:58 PM
the 2nd idea is horrible , cant see money in that,

the first idea sounds good ,but its still a pety idea cause i cant really see alot of money in that.

Listen when u get into business u have to do the math regarding the income you are going to receive , i just dont see money in that job... Think about it


maybe im wrong ,

SKAMPOE
03-02-2008, 11:00 PM
Aint No MoneY Like Dope Money

TSA
03-02-2008, 11:09 PM
for everyone saying "that's been done": I ain't trying to change the world nigga, im trying to get paid. You wouldn't go to a mcdonalds franchise owner and say "that's already been done"


but otherwise, for all the people that live in places that already have the delivery service; how often is it used by locals. Ya'll live in places with a lot of big cities and congestion, in a place like nebraska a lot of ppl have to go really far out of their way to get groceries.

the second idea would essentially be like an E-bay in real life, but i think this is the future of retail. Usually ppl don't trust the internet first off, plus they don't usually know what they want until they see it. This place will have a vivid display, ppl can walk in and look around and hang out for fun, but for the most part there's ill shit out there most ppl have never seen in their lives that they would buy

i LIKE the second more, but the 1st is more practical.

TSA
03-02-2008, 11:12 PM
the 2nd idea is horrible , cant see money in that,

the first idea sounds good ,but its still a pety idea cause i cant really see alot of money in that.

Listen when u get into business u have to do the math regarding the income you are going to receive , i just dont see money in that job... Think about it


maybe im wrong ,

I see money in both. The money from the delievery one won't really be in the delievers but the sponsor placed ads, with our income coming froma source free from our actual service, we'll have the ability to lower prices on items, even offer items with subsidies to the point that it makes most sense to buy from us then from a retailer directly.


The second i like the most. I see the money because 1. people will place orders, duh. 2. It will expose them to ions of brands they had never heard of and would have never heard of anywhere else that pack ill shit. Like look at Stylemasters cloths, that's ill, but i'd never find it anywhere. You can just go in and it'll be a library of garments. there's no way you can walk in and walk out without seeing something that catches your eye because it will put every brand possible, even high fashion italian joints, at your finger tips.

Robert
03-02-2008, 11:44 PM
What sort of stuff did you have in mind for the second idea? Just thinking it would be relatively hard to establish connections with more exclusive brands.

TSA
03-02-2008, 11:51 PM
no need for any real connections, just getting their products from wholesale if possible.

I'll be a small room, some computers and some assistants. The computers will have a vast catalog of all the cloths a man can image (geared towards younger ppl, older ones are afraid of the internet). On the walls there will be several pictures on display, as well as giant photobooks of various cloths, so it'll be a fashion lovers (gay term) paradise really, but essentially they'll type their shit on the search engine "blue, shoes" and then all the options will pop up as well as a customizing option with various brands that offer custom made shit

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Robert
03-03-2008, 12:05 AM
Werd. So so called street wear? Supreme?

TSA
03-03-2008, 12:18 AM
i'd say, idk if i wanna specialize, but i'll just aim for a young crowd, and "street wear" would be a curtain TYPE of crowd, but is money in the bank nonetheless.

there's a lot of advantages to specializing as well as being general and offering something for everyone possible.

the best part is i won't have to work about return investment cause there's no inventory, just visuals and sales. there's still a lot of problems i see and kinks and shit

GENERAL WISE
03-03-2008, 12:25 AM
Buy an already established business and try and improve it. Low risk, great first business. aka Liquor store, restaurant etc.

Robert
03-03-2008, 12:28 AM
Yeah I think that idea is the better out of the two. For starters you'll have less competition whether you specialise or not. If it's clothing/shoes I wouldn't want to be too general, maybe have a consistent theme, idk.

Robert
03-03-2008, 12:30 AM
Buy an already established business and try and improve it. Low risk, great first business. aka Liquor store, restaurant etc.

Fuck a restuarant. Some people work 80-90 hour weeks running them and don't earn more then the average building site labourer.

TSA
03-03-2008, 12:31 AM
^that's what i mean

and Heyzues is right, but i like things to be my own 100%, down to the idea, otherwise i'll be working for some other dick

and they dont franchise to black people that easily, my parents already tried.

Tyler Durden
03-03-2008, 02:39 AM
Good luck with that shit.
You will need a lot of cash to start up though.
I would love to see what the haters say if it does work out.

NIGHT MAYOR
03-03-2008, 02:58 AM
problem with the clothing idea is that when you buy from wholesale you got to buy big, like you know 100 units. so if one punk comes in and wants some whack shit, your stuck with 99 of them whack shits.

grocery idea your gunna be paying alot in petrol and workers. you wont be able to profit much off that i dont think.

TSA
03-03-2008, 11:54 AM
very tru, the bulk thing is a problem, might be back to duh drawing board, feel free to pitch ideas

SKAMPOE
03-03-2008, 11:58 AM
one word '' E X T E N D E R S'' HUH? HUH?

TSA
03-03-2008, 12:02 PM
skampoe please leave.

im gonna do a survey of random ppl on the street and at the mall to see if both ideas are tangible

SKAMPOE
03-03-2008, 12:49 PM
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NIGHT MAYOR
03-04-2008, 12:14 AM
im quite impressed TSA actualy has his head at work for money making idea's, my brain works on scams, laws change all the time you gotta be quick. i got a few idea's.

Dick Cheney
03-04-2008, 12:23 AM
skampoe please leave.

im gonna do a survey of random ppl on the street and at the mall to see if both ideas are tangibleTake your second idea, conglomerate the resources, and put it online. Selling a hundred wack shirts locally could be a pain in the ass, selling a 100 world-wide, not so tough
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STYLE
03-04-2008, 12:55 AM
okay shao.....i charge consulting fees for this type of shit but you seem like a cool young brotha so heres a freebie from a dude whos been self employed for almost 10 years.

1st idea.... not a profitable one. gas prices are too high right now so your delivery fee may be too high for your customers to trade for convenience. this is a tuff startup biz for a noob like urself. maybe 20 years ago but today people are more connected with cellphones and internet. so its easier to get what u need. but i coulod be wrong i don't know shit about Neb. i was surprised when u said they had supermarkets. i thought u all still got your beef jerky and 5lb bags of flour from the general store.

2nd idea...
this has potential. people still want a shopping experience. the real world shop will never die for that reason.
question...so i come in and pick an outfit out. now wheres my shit? do i order and come back or what?
here's a suggestion....get an application created that will catalog all the avail pieces. and visually display the customers choices as a fit. like a virtual mannequin. since your startup and overhead is low this should be an affordable investment.

i had a store for about a year and a half. we just closed down last august. my biz partners were a couple and they broke up.....anyway....retail is a make it or break it biz. but what i learned is to know you customers. don't try to change the tastes of the locals that will be coming by your shop frequently.if they like flannel shirts make sure you carry flannel shirts. cause ar he end of the day its about the sales and the money. fuck trying to be trendy if it doesn't equal sales. so you need to evaluate your consumer base and find a balance between your tastes and theirs.
i'll come back and drop some more jewelry on ya later.

Sicka than aidZ
03-04-2008, 01:05 AM
okay shao.....i charge consulting fees for this type of shit but you seem like a cool young brotha so heres a freebie from a dude whos been self employed for almost 10 years.

1st idea.... not a profitable one. gas prices are too high right now so your delivery fee may be too high for your customers to trade for convenience. this is a tuff startup biz for a noob like urself. maybe 20 years ago but today people are more connected with cellphones and internet. so its easier to get what u need. but i coulod be wrong i don't know shit about Neb. i was surprised when u said they had supermarkets. i thought u all still got your beef jerky and 5lb bags of flour from the general store.

2nd idea...
this has potential. people still want a shopping experience. the real world shop will never die for that reason.
question...so i come in and pick an outfit out. now wheres my shit? do i order and come back or what?
here's a suggestion....get an application created that will catalog all the avail pieces. and visually display the customers choices as a fit. like a virtual mannequin. since your startup and overhead is low this should be an affordable investment.

i had a store for about a year and a half. we just closed down last august. my biz partners were a couple and they broke up.....anyway....retail is a make it or break it biz. but what i learned is to know you customers. don't try to change the tastes of the locals that will be coming by your shop frequently.if they like flannel shirts make sure you carry flannel shirts. cause ar he end of the day its about the sales and the money. fuck trying to be trendy if it doesn't equal sales. so you need to evaluate your consumer base and find a balance between your tastes and theirs.
i'll come back and drop some more jewelry on ya later.
aww its great to see u two gettin along. that nebraska shit is hilarious
word TSA make them dollaz, i dont know if this makes for a better thread but i started selling weed again. guess i better throw some kicks on the powerlines.

NIGHT MAYOR
03-04-2008, 01:16 AM
what about my point on wholesale stylez ?

Sicka than aidZ
03-04-2008, 01:19 AM
when in doubt, smoke out

Durag
03-04-2008, 05:43 AM
I think there both pretty good ideas.

For the first: I think despite gas prices, if you started off by being the delivery man yourself at first until u get established. It may be hard enough to get it off the ground at first, but i think this may work - start out as say agent. go to a company who sell something everyone needs, say milk. find out how many people would like milk delivered to them, and then become an agent for that company. You buy the milk of them for a cheap price then sell it to your customers. When you become more known and established, start introducing other products that you wish to. When you have done that for a while and your other products are selling, then you could give up the milk and sell on the run, and continue with the produts you wish to sell.

TSA
03-04-2008, 10:28 AM
nice, but i ppl never EVER single item shop.

idk if it's different in ireland, but if i go get milk, and leave it at that, what about all the other things they want?

i think another reason companies won't be willing to work with me is that 40% of purchases are impulse driven, meaning you didn't plan on it but got in the store, saw it and bought it.

this could be devistating to them if people bought exactly what they came for, i need some kind of incentive

i like your work with one company idea tho, it'll be a lot easier to advertise and establish, and i think i would be a good way for them to compete with walmart...which is an incentive that could tip the balance for me


good thinking...im doing more surveys today to see which one works

STYLE
03-04-2008, 10:45 AM
what about my point on wholesale stylez ?

naw man wholesale ususally starts at 3-5 dozen pieces for rare brands like parish, artful doger, . now if you are trying to carry shit like rocawear you will have to get the package which consisits of the whole season line. but brands like rocawear and lrg have their own worldwide marketing and will sell so it won't be a problem.

next tip....
get familiar with the industry. yeah we all have a sense of style but that has nothing to do with the retail clothing game.

go to an expo or convention, there you can see the up and coming lines/styles, talk to some sales reps, meet other store owners and and place orders.

i tried to find a trade show in nebraska but.......you know the answer to that. you may have to go to the next state. uh maybe 2-3 states over. where the fuck is nebraska anyway?

Tyler Durden
03-04-2008, 11:02 AM
i dont know if this makes for a better thread but i started selling weed again. guess i better throw some kicks on the powerlines.

Ha ha.
Make sure they are old ones, to let them R.I.P.

TSA
03-04-2008, 11:36 AM
naw man wholesale ususally starts at 3-5 dozen pieces for rare brands like parish, artful doger, . now if you are trying to carry shit like rocawear you will have to get the package which consisits of the whole season line. but brands like rocawear and lrg have their own worldwide marketing and will sell so it won't be a problem.

next tip....
get familiar with the industry. yeah we all have a sense of style but that has nothing to do with the retail clothing game.

go to an expo or convention, there you can see the up and coming lines/styles, talk to some sales reps, meet other store owners and and place orders.

i tried to find a trade show in nebraska but.......you know the answer to that. you may have to go to the next state. uh maybe 2-3 states over. where the fuck is nebraska anyway?

exactly. How would i go about finding expos and conventions? Do you know if there's gonna be any in Des Moines, Omaha, Chicago (has to be), Denver or Kansas City...my furtherest reasonable extent.

and Nebraskas in the middle of the map, respek'dat

STYLE
03-04-2008, 12:27 PM
google apparel trade shows. chicago has a huge fashion week coming in the spring. u just missed the worlds largest convention, the magic show, in vegas.

but yeah you dont have to hit the largest ones just find one near you. the small and large ones will have most of the same companies. just with smaller or larger displays. the other cool shit is you see whatds coming next. like i just went to a show in jan.
and saw 2 dope lines for the summer (look to parish to come up in 08). but for the most part summer 08 will be wack in terms of fashion. folks are still clinging to the skull shit, trying t flip it and bounce it.

TSA
03-04-2008, 01:33 PM
yeah, large one would be less to my advantage when it comes to having 1 on 1s with producers and presenting my idea, large ones would probably be packed with ppl trying to do the same thing so i'll just be a wisper in the wind, expecially not being in, or knowing the industry.

You going to the one in spring? If so i'll go...(in spongebob voice) we can be roomies...:Y;$.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/porkchop67/244132Odd-Couple-Posters.jpg

I'm confronted with the realization that i might be going to Nigeria in a year or a year and a half to finish school also.

too many options really, and it sucks.

Sicka than aidZ
03-04-2008, 10:44 PM
i got jacked i quit sellin weed

STYLE
03-04-2008, 10:57 PM
yeah, large one would be less to my advantage when it comes to having 1 on 1s with producers and presenting my idea, large ones would probably be packed with ppl trying to do the same thing so i'll just be a wisper in the wind, expecially not being in, or knowing the industry.

You going to the one in spring? If so i'll go...(in spongebob voice) we can be roomies...:Y;$.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/porkchop67/244132Odd-Couple-Posters.jpg

I'm confronted with the realization that i might be going to Nigeria in a year or a year and a half to finish school also.

too many options really, and it sucks.

hmmmm.....if i got time why not. its been about 4 years since i been back to the chi. i'll keep u posted on that.

but i wouldn't be concerned about being low profile. its not that kind of party. what you wanna do is:
peep the styles
grab catalogs and contact info
if there is a company you like, have a quick convo with a sales rep to start a relationship
if you're ready, place some orders
meet other owners just to become part of the retail community

theres really no need to let your cat out of the bag.

when you get back home thats when the work begins

TSA
03-04-2008, 11:09 PM
so basically move rhymes AND retail, make sure shit sell?

im not proposing that as a sure thing though, im doing some field study type shit to see where i can go with this, or if i even should

STYLE
03-04-2008, 11:13 PM
man, not to be funny but your nigerian connection could really put you ahead in the game if you ever decided to drop ur own line. most of the shit i see em pumpin is knock offs but imagine the profits on some fly shit. cheap manufacturing baby!

it something to think about if you go back there.

TSA
03-04-2008, 11:20 PM
hahaha, it is, it is.

since your already in duh garment game why don't YOO do it?

STYLE
03-04-2008, 11:48 PM
oh yeah the clothing game is more cutthroat than the dope game.
i'm on hiatus at the moment. i got a thermonuke that needs to be completed. i know i keep talking around the issue but when i drop it..... yall gonna be like "damn nigga you weren't lying, but how did the fuck you....but when did you....oh shit!"

if i was to do it tho, i'd have to stay completely out of the picture so that i won't get the nigerian shaft.

if you go, check it out, find a cheap manuf. and i'll place an order. thats a bet.

Sicka than aidZ
03-04-2008, 11:58 PM
aight dog aim that shit at general wise he's been getttttttttin cocky lately all the free liquor an shit

TSA
03-05-2008, 12:09 AM
oh yeah the clothing game is more cutthroat than the dope game.
i'm on hiatus at the moment. i got a thermonuke that needs to be completed. i know i keep talking around the issue but when i drop it..... yall gonna be like "damn nigga you weren't lying, but how did the fuck you....but when did you....oh shit!"

if i was to do it tho, i'd have to stay completely out of the picture so that i won't get the nigerian shaft.

if you go, check it out, find a cheap manuf. and i'll place an order. thats a bet.
explain this "Nigerian Shaft"

everyone thinks it's bootleg huh lol

they're not too far off, i got the 50 cent movie 3 months before it came out, and some Versace pants for 15 dollars, and some cookies called Noreos.

STYLE
03-05-2008, 01:02 AM
well most cultures including black american, tend to only give the hookup to one of their own.

TSA
03-05-2008, 01:17 AM
oh i get it, i get it.