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TSA
06-06-2008, 07:53 PM
Your very annoying and don't let things go, im probably not the first to say this

that's my opinion

but i would like to know your views of the present state of the world or country, the past and what's in store for the future

LORD NOSE
06-07-2008, 02:00 AM
you win the award for most annoying poster to ever post on WTC hands down

STYLE
06-09-2008, 03:18 PM
Your very annoying and don't let things go, im probably not the first to say this

that's my opinion

but i would like to know your views of the present state of the world or country, the past and what's in store for the future



now let me start with saying, you and sunny are the ONLY two to call me annoying.
i'd be annoyed, i guess, if someone came in here and knocked my out of the dominant spot and reduced me to calling them big brother. but then again i'll NEVER know.
sunny is annoyed because he has one preconcieved notion of who i am "bougie" but is so far off that its hard for him to see past the smooth taste.

won't let things go....says the guy who has his comments and complaints on repeat and has gone as far as making individual threads to highlight the same parrot speech he has been spouting for the past 6 months.




now as to my world.....

religion:
i am all about results. my father always says "insanity is repeating the same method but expecting different results"

if jesus gets you to act right (loving productive humanistic creative) then do that shit. same can be said for gaia, jehova, yaweh, jah, allah, buddah, lao, ra, the witch of the west, the flying spaghetti monster or einstien.

who am i to tel you your life is a lie if you are better at being a human than i am or at least the same level of humanity.

to each his own.

just follow the golden rule, it pretty much covers it all.


Race:
i believe that each "race" is different in ability and characteristics which manifest in the physical form. its like an ox and a yak are in essence the same animal but not really.

melanin is found in every organism on earth. the benefits of melanin, beyond skin care, have been proven time and time again.

i can go into melanin and it's psychoactive effect if you want me to.

so in my view the "more melanin the more prone to humanistic behavior".

so in the spectrum of melanin...the more black you are the EASIER it is to be humanistic.

"whites" have proven to me, that if left to their own devices, they will destroy other cultures until they are left with their own. then they will proceed to destroy themselves.
history has shown this to be true.

where has the european gone and acted philanthropically? i mean as a nation/culture.


ALL that being said......EVERYONE HAS THE CAPACITY FOR GOOD AND EVIL.

so yeah race matters but not really.



Politics:
its all bullshit. small gov is best IMO. the larger the gov, the more red tape, the more laws, the less freedom.


the present:
we are at a crossroad. better yet we are in a transition that will polarize the world as we know it. and when i say polarize i mean the core of human civilization, beyond politics, religion, culture or race. i'm talking good and evil.

but a single match can chase darkness out of a room. so there is always HOPE.


the future:
STYLE



i'll stop here.

any questions?

LORD NOSE
06-09-2008, 03:22 PM
i'd be annoyed, i guess, if someone came in here and knocked my out of the dominant spot and reduced me to calling them big brother.



whats annoying is that you really believe this -

i was in the dominant spot ?

when ?

i'm flattered that you see or seen me as dominant - over confidence is an ugly trait -

TSA
06-09-2008, 04:04 PM
now let me start with saying, you and sunny are the ONLY two to call me annoying.
i'd be annoyed, i guess, if someone came in here and knocked my out of the dominant spot and reduced me to calling them big brother. but then again i'll NEVER know.
sunny is annoyed because he has one preconcieved notion of who i am "bougie" but is so far off that its hard for him to see past the smooth taste.

won't let things go....says the guy who has his comments and complaints on repeat and has gone as far as making individual threads to highlight the same parrot speech he has been spouting for the past 6 months.




now as to my world.....

religion:
i am all about results. my father always says "insanity is repeating the same method but expecting different results"

if jesus gets you to act right (loving productive humanistic creative) then do that shit. same can be said for gaia, jehova, yaweh, jah, allah, buddah, lao, ra, the witch of the west, the flying spaghetti monster or einstien.

who am i to tel you your life is a lie if you are better at being a human than i am or at least the same level of humanity.

to each his own.

just follow the golden rule, it pretty much covers it all.


Race:
i believe that each "race" is different in ability and characteristics which manifest in the physical form. its like an ox and a yak are in essence the same animal but not really.

melanin is found in every organism on earth. the benefits of melanin, beyond skin care, have been proven time and time again.

i can go into melanin and it's psychoactive effect if you want me to.

so in my view the "more melanin the more prone to humanistic behavior".

so in the spectrum of melanin...the more black you are the EASIER it is to be humanistic.

"whites" have proven to me, that if left to their own devices, they will destroy other cultures until they are left with their own. then they will proceed to destroy themselves.
history has shown this to be true.

where has the european gone and acted philanthropically? i mean as a nation/culture.


ALL that being said......EVERYONE HAS THE CAPACITY FOR GOOD AND EVIL.

so yeah race matters but not really.



Politics:
its all bullshit. small gov is best IMO. the larger the gov, the more red tape, the more laws, the less freedom.


the present:
we are at a crossroad. better yet we are in a transition that will polarize the world as we know it. and when i say polarize i mean the core of human civilization, beyond politics, religion, culture or race. i'm talking good and evil.

but a single match can chase darkness out of a room. so there is always HOPE.


the future:
STYLE



i'll stop here.

any questions?


so what are the attributes of natives asians and whites given their body build

STYLE
06-09-2008, 04:07 PM
whats annoying is that you really believe this -

i was in the dominant spot ?

when ?

i'm flattered that you see or seen me as dominant - over confidence is an ugly trait -


arrogance is thinking that everything i say is about you. dummy. i was referring to TSA. he cast me as wilis in his movie and Goku in his DBZ thread.
both big brothers to his chracters.

he was THE dominant gen chatter until PSA. then the facade was shattered. after that it became open season on TSA when b4 he was untouchable.
now i am the untouchable one.

god damn get over it. or atleast get over yourself.


over confidence is an ugly trait


http://www.chromemusic.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/michael-jordan-allstar5.jpg
http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens1513858module8197113photo_TigerWoods_Fis t_Pump.jpg1202767632


ugly as it gets

STYLE
06-09-2008, 04:10 PM
so what are the attributes of natives asians and whites given their body build



it has nothing to do with body build. the physical traits are just the visual differences.

but we do know that


whites bodies deteriorate at a much rapid rate.

asians have littler peckers.


ain't to many natives left for me to give an informed answer. the facts are just not there.

TSA
06-09-2008, 04:11 PM
eLoHel! as if you didn't loose when the votes were counted, and 90% of your votes had e-be3f with the gods slang, and didn't sleep cause i dropped a thread on you, and had to try again 4 times to reply to 1 drop, and called my phone and i ain't even give you my numbers, all i did was give you a style for you to run with


























































http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff29/Pimplegionrecords/stillfat.jpg

STYLE
06-09-2008, 04:15 PM
dear TSA,

won't let shit go.

love,
style aka puppetmaster

TSA
06-09-2008, 04:18 PM
it has nothing to do with body build. the physical traits are just the visual differences.

but we do know that


whites bodies deteriorate at a much rapid rate.

asians have littler peckers.


ain't to many natives left for me to give an informed answer. the facts are just not there.

you cited every race has different powers and shit. what's white ppls and what's asians as well as natives.

regardless of how many natives are around you can't say 'idk they're dead' cause the same scientific base that lead you to determine blacks are more humanistic then whites cause of their own relationship with melanin would also lead you finding out the unique attributes of natives without having to see them at the 7/11 everyday based on their melanin composition.

and asian having small dicks isn't a good answer, your aware of that

and since over 80% of african americans have european DNA in them, some have more european the african, and whites, but the laws of your science, are inferior and more savage minded then the blakkz, would this me I as a pure blooded black man is superior to you, who's probably 80% black at most?

Also, white have proven very successful in the world system, can you explain how this came to be as those superior to them seem to be lagging behind?




















































http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff29/Pimplegionrecords/stillfat.jpg

TSA
06-09-2008, 04:19 PM
dear TSA,

won't let shit go.

love,
style aka puppetmaster

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff29/Pimplegionrecords/stillfat.jpg
DONT CLICK IT!

Mic Tyson
06-09-2008, 04:22 PM
regardless of how many natives are around you can't say 'idk they're dead' cause the same scientific base that lead you to determine blacks are more humanistic then whites cause of their own relationship with melanin would also lead you finding out the unique attributes of natives without having to see them at the 7/11 everyday based on their melanin composition.



i don't think he talkin about "those" indians

and who is that in that picture?

STYLE
06-09-2008, 05:08 PM
thats my wife. idk what he's getting at considering he posted a pic of a crack whore and said it was his girl.....but anyway.


you are stuck on powers. who said powers? you completely ignored my commentary on everyone has the capacity for good and evil.

melanin and the pineal gland which is the center for melanin....you don't read so...

everything has a vibration. the pineal gland is a receptor for those vibrations. it also regulates biorythm. all this equates to harmonious living/attuned to the world.
evil is in conflict with harmonious living.



most natives are dead and their history gone with them since it was spoken. if someone wants to enighten me with native history than by all means....


you seem to equate domination with godliness....
if i kill you does that make me a better person?
if you study and get a b+ and i cheat and get an A, am i smarter?
if i rob you....you get the picture.

this euro dominated world has its cosequences which are just starting to emerge.
namely the toll on the environment, the destruction of the family and the deterioration of communituy.

yes TSA biolically you are prolly superior in terms of potential due to your melanin richness. but you are white and creamy on the inside and taste great when dipped in milk.

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-09-2008, 05:49 PM
U mean theres connection between melanin and pineal gland?

Melatonin , melanin ? They have connection?

STYLE
06-09-2008, 06:26 PM
U mean theres connection between melanin and pineal gland?

Melatonin , melanin ? They have connection?



The organ of the human body with the largest surface area is, of course, the skin. Many people are aware that the deep concentration of melanin in African peoples skin makes them black and enables them to use the rays of the sun more effectively than our less melanated counterparts, but what few know is that melanin is not only present in our skin but it permeates our whole physical being. It is contained in a small battery cell called a Melanosome. The degree of blackness in various organs in Afrikan people depends on the type of melanin contained and its weight.
Melanin is present in each organ and regulates the workings of our brain. Within the human brain stem are 12 centers of black melanin. On the earth, only humans have deep pigmentation of all twelve-brain centers. The brain center with the deepest pigmentation is the Locus Coeruleus or Black Dot. The Locus Coeruleus supplies the pineal gland with norepinephrine. The pineal gland controls the flow of melatonin during the night hours to activate R.E.M sleep which allows us to communicate with internal memory pools or other dimensions of life in nature. Melanin also causes seratonin to flow more effectively in the waking state so to inspirience more spirituality. This also helps to keep spiritual intunement at an apex. The less melanin in an individual, the more calcified the pineal gland and less access the individual has to the spiritual world.
Melanin exists also as biopigment for vision in the eyes of humans and all vertebrates. Color vision is produced in the retina by melanin through photopigments. These allow deeper melanin concentrations, offer protection from the sun as well as a fuller vision of the color spectrum. The melanin content in the inner ear also is of great importance. Through this ear pigmentation, it was found that increased melanin increases hearing frequencies. Melanin is also used to make the Black Dot more in touch with the universe. This Black Dot (Third Eye) was seen by our Kemetic ancestors as the access point to inner wisdom and divinity. This was the invisible door to the pyramid which when activated would decipher the mysteries.
Melanin in its most concentrated form is black. It is black because its chemical structure will not allow any energy to escape once that energy has come in contact with it. This gives us an insight and shows that melanin dominant people do not require the same amount of minerals and nutrients in their diet as people with less melanin.
Melanin absorbs light rays and stores them so that they can be used as energy later on. This is why Melanin dominant people are able to use sunlight more effectively. A perfect example of melanins use is related to Vitamin D. Vitamin D can be found in the skin of melanin dominant individuals after sun exposure, whereas less melanated people require the intake of dairy products to secrete vitamin D.
here is some more on the subject

http://kissyku.tripod.com/blackgoddessforum/id42.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/thirdeyepineal.html
http://rizirikira.tripod.com/calcified.html






this is why nigerians recognize lil weezy as the true and living god.
he secretes melanin from his eyes and lips plus has diamond teeth.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/stylemaster2/diss/igbowayne.gif

TSA
06-09-2008, 07:00 PM
i don't except links as things you know, hence me saying "im not gonna read that" when someone presents someone else article as knawledge.

i also don't see tripod sites and theblackgodess as credible sources on biological make up as it is probably another negro self esteem sheild from the true living world.

so i'll wait for your answers on the first few questions

back to the melanin thing.

The amount of melanin in a persons cellz according to your information, is a measurment of humanistic values.

i present case study #1
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/47/475/475153/kony.jpg
Joseph Kony

if you don't know, Joseph Kony is leader of the LRA in northern Uganda. The LRA is responsible for the abduction of Acholi children and drugging, raping and torturing them into joining his army.

Often kids and kidnapped, and to dehumanize them they are force to rape family members or kill them.

or both.

or they are made to train with each other, and rape and kill eachother to death with the survivors being good enough for his army.




he also keeps a large horde of pre pubescent sex slave girls


http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff29/Pimplegionrecords/StyleAkonDONE.png



He leads a massive army of child Soljahboys dehumanized into murdering eachother.

this is in 2008. There's onwhere on the European continent + North america + australia where you can find an incident of a white, less humane by nature, person doing such a thing, or something equally inhumane in 2008.

now, if your theory on melanin's function as the indicator of humanist thought(a european concept), is correct then in all testable incidences, a person with melanin cannot be found acting more savage then a person without



just like in all testable incidences a stick of equal size made of plastic will always break before a stick of equal size made of titanium, or a rock of diamond will never break before a rock of granite if the same pressure is applied.

LORD ZERO
06-09-2008, 07:10 PM
I Wonder Whos Next On This "the World According To..." Series Lol

TSA
06-09-2008, 07:17 PM
everything has a vibration. the pineal gland is a receptor for those vibrations. it also regulates biorythm. all this equates to harmonious living/attuned to the world.
evil is in conflict with harmonious living.




you seem to equate domination with godliness....
if i kill you does that make me a better person?
if you study and get a b+ and i cheat and get an A, am i smarter?
if i rob you....you get the picture.



i do equate domination with godliness.

cause the amount of domination is fucking god.ly.

to the point that the majority of the world worships a white god.
if that isn't godly then nothing is.

you'd be smarter for cheating cause you were more resourceful then me, and i took the route told to me by ppl i assumed knew more so i studied like a douche.
if you rob me your still dominating me enough to get my money, and therefore while that gun is to my head your the dominate breed.

i feel your cancelling out white achievement to thicken the mudbricks on your self esteem wall.


also with your harmonious living. If melanin is in the end a trigger for harmonious living then it must be proven in all cases that those with more melanin live more harmonious then those without

everyone is capable of good and evil, which in it's self is a perspective based concept and thus non scientific, but if you are saying melanin leads to more harmonious living it must be a universal constant that those with more melanin are and will always be more harmonious then with less.

meaning this nigga

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/070801_b_coleman.jpg

is more harmonious, and will always be on any given day, then this nigga
http://www.forumuniversitaire.com/images/Dalai%20Lama-Big.jpg

and this nigga

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.top-10.us/Bob-Marley.jpg&usg=AFQjCNE3DNkV3W-laJ2s_eAepv6h8rggHQ

and this nigga


http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff29/Pimplegionrecords/StyleHoleDONE.jpg

STYLE
06-09-2008, 07:53 PM
i wasn't talking to you.

so i didn't read what you wrote and i already saw the pics you recycled them twice.

if it ain't funny the 1st time why would it be funny now?



meanwhile my ethervision screenshots will stay fuckin with your soul.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/stylemaster2/diss/oreoape.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/stylemaster2/diss/igbowayne.gif
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll183/stylemaster2/diss/vegeta.gif



now when you want some more sonning lessons just let me know.

i got time.

BornPower
06-09-2008, 07:54 PM
so you're taking exeptions to the rule and making them the rule for your own views? hmmm...

STYLE
06-09-2008, 07:59 PM
so you're taking exeptions to the rule and making them the rule for your own views? hmmm...


he doesn't read so he misses alot. plus he won't be satisfied until everyone recognizes that the black man is inferior to the white man.

typical new age nigerian TOMfoolery.
i see it all the time. nigerians come here and toss white salad until their tongues are blacker than the back of their necks.

BornPower
06-09-2008, 08:07 PM
didn't know he was nigerian...

I had the chance to talk to a few nigerian brothers and they had some...odd views. I can't call them wrong cuz they had some valid points, but they're solutions seemed idiotic.

Maybe that's just THEM tho...

TSA
06-09-2008, 08:18 PM
no, im not reinforcing white ppl are superior to blacks, as there's whites im superior to and blacks im non superior to, like Bill Cosby, i just find it difficult to except ideals built under disillusionment that try explaining the black man's standing in the world through white methods, a white lens and white culture.

Black ppl aren't superior to white ppl, white ppl aren't superior to black people, 'racial superiority' is alien to genuine black culture and the concept of it is a virus that ate the white world to shreds to the point that their children are ashamed to learn their own culture and they can't celebrate themselves because it's racist.

that's the last ideology we need to be importing from them.

racism is built in truth from a sense of inferiority. ppl begin making up things about the greatness of people like them because there's a void inside them they need to fill with 'racial importance'

what if blacks built the pyramids....YOU didn't..ya know?

and YOU couldn't

Im proud of the people that look like me, and im proud of myself, proud enough not to use their accomplishment as a filler of personal achievement cause it often has nothing to do with me and i refuse to see them as a color.

George washington carver? trill nigga, i couldn't do that shit, it ends there.
Nubians? not me.
even dope Igbo ppl, Chinua Achebe, not me.

ppl that dwell on race are usually, and will almost always be less happy them ppl that see people for who they are.

I know what you guys are going through, i used to believe all this shit too, melanin, NGE, white ppl being evil, when i was like 13-15, then i grew out of it.

a trip to africa actually washed it out of my system

TSA
06-09-2008, 08:21 PM
didn't know he was nigerian...

I had the chance to talk to a few nigerian brothers and they had some...odd views. I can't call them wrong cuz they had some valid points, but they're solutions seemed idiotic.

Maybe that's just THEM tho...
LOL when dealing with africans you have to understand that your from the western world and they're from the african world, and in the western world 'black' is a universal call of unity, where as in their world there's all types of different black depending on culture.

i called a dude black in nigeria, he said, no im not, im coffee brown LOL
then he pointed out a dude that was black for me.
then i was like, wow, that shit doesn't exist here huh?

i mean, you'll meet africans that think in the western context of race, but i freed myself of that bafoonary a long time about.

what are these solutions they speak of tho?

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-09-2008, 08:28 PM
I agree with melanin playing a role.... But i dont see it being some ultimate thing that controls everything. Theres other things to Pineal Gland also.

.....And i dont see any "Scientific" debate with all the things that are put down to metaphors. Since they only reflect reality. Theres nothing we can do about it, we cant touch it, u know what i mean...?

"The less melanin in an individual, the more calcified the pineal gland and less access the individual has to the spiritual world."

VS !

"Fire was not god an element created by god; Because of their natural cold and hostile environment, they developed materialistic religion or spirituality, and saw fire as a savior, deliverer from the cold"

Those are all good insights.. But who is the judge? Are those things against each other ultimately?

Beside the worshipping of Fire happened in Central Asia.... are they considered "White"?



Are u familier with the Time concepts? Since i see even more bigger "conflict" in nature of the different latitudes..


light/dark is what affects the system also(pineal gland),,,


In Equator the cycle of day and year is more constant than in northern latitudes (in terms of Lightness and Darkness)... That must explain something.

BornPower
06-09-2008, 08:29 PM
we were talkin about how to rebuild a country's economy and they were saying that so called third world countries need to import the economic system from Amerikkka and get the money that we gettin (not knowin that our country was destined to fail...)

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-09-2008, 08:42 PM
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/18056/78715/f/481537-Zorastrian-Fire-Temple-0.jpg

TSA
06-09-2008, 09:14 PM
we were talkin about how to rebuild a country's economy and they were saying that so called third world countries need to import the economic system from Amerikkka and get the money that we gettin (not knowin that our country was destined to fail...)
all countries are destant to fail, all countries want to be in americas position, so adopting the american system is a win

and

"The less melanin in an individual, the more calcified the pineal gland and less access the individual has to the spiritual world."


did this nigga just say 'access the individual has to the spiritual world?

like, there's a science that measures access to the spiritual world and your quoting it

but if i quoted jesus i would be ignorant.

wu-tang has ruined a lot of your lives

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-09-2008, 09:51 PM
"The less melanin in an individual, the more calcified the pineal gland and less access the individual has to the spiritual world."

What ever makes them happy.

Dont have problem with that.....

TSA
06-09-2008, 10:01 PM
and the bit about 'they' worshipped fire.

my culture doesn't worship fire, yoruba don't worship fire, and the fact that they used to term 'they' to define african spirituality is proof that his is a eurocentric view out of touch with every black person on earth except sunny winters and stylemaster

they'll grow out of it tho, and realize they will lead a happier life

TSA
06-09-2008, 10:03 PM
also what are the visual difference between the races and what attributes to native americans, asians and whites get in the racial melanin pot luck

blacks got humanism(a european concept)

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-09-2008, 10:10 PM
and the bit about 'they' worshipped fire.

my culture doesn't worship fire, yoruba don't worship fire, and the fact that they used to term 'they' to define african spirituality is proof that his is a eurocentric view out of touch with every black person on earth except sunny winters and stylemaster

they'll grow out of it tho, and realize they will lead a happier life

yea but the Fire quote was about White folk.. or what u mean?

I forgot to put the "VS" between the quotes.........

TSA
06-09-2008, 10:16 PM
ohhh, well i doubt all white ppl 'worshipped fire'
it was probably more important in their society, i can see that, being cold and all. but wow....and ouch.

STYLE
06-09-2008, 10:53 PM
spiritual world is the subjective world which is the mind/spirit/soul.

the spiritual world, simply put, is where your freestyle lyrics come from when you are in the "zone".


tsa shorten your posts i ain't readin all that jibberish.

Koolish
06-09-2008, 10:57 PM
i always wondered, if melanin is the source of a deeper connection and all that good stuff, then africans and sri lankans are very similar then correct?

STYLE
06-09-2008, 11:29 PM
if everyone adopted american ideology and economic system.....

1st it can't happen because our system only works when other nations are under foot.
2nd our economy is partly based off of war profiteering. how is that a good thing?
3rd we are babies in the whole scheme of things and we are already in decline.



race "powers".....

whites see things through a leftbrained lens. everything must be concrete and objectified. they rely on and learn from externals (tools, machines, western medicine, other people)

this is good for western science. but western science hit a roadblock when they tried to unify the 4 forces of the universe into a single equation. to truly unify them you must consider the 5th force, the mind.

mind over matter is an eastern concept.


blacks and the rest of the melaninated world see things through a right brained lens. everything is everything. they learn from and rely on the internal, spirit.
this is good for creativity spirituality intuition.

few people have found an equilibrium between the left and right brain.
egyptians did. the marriage of mind/body/spirit/science/religion/philosophy is echoed throughout their culture.
this is how they were able to master mathematics, architecture and science.



the reason we, as black americans, are obsessed with claiming black achievements......

because we have been told:
we ain't shit but monkeys/slaves.
the current state of africa is how it always was.
black folks aren't capable of greatness and are inferior.

so we have to remind ourselves and others "hey a black person did this/that"





now b4 you fuck up what i just wrote let me add that everything is a spectrum. there are no absolutes. tsa for example tries to fit my posts into a category or make it a rule. this is a left brained process.

STYLE
06-09-2008, 11:49 PM
i always wondered, if melanin is the source of a deeper connection and all that good stuff, then africans and sri lankans are very similar then correct?



all people of color.
melanin is found in every organ of the body

you can:

objective traits:
see more of the spectrum
hear a wider range of frequencies
process more vitamins
need less sleep
have more energy
are more receptive to narcotics (this is a biggie, cocaine has a much greater effect on people of color, we also get higher off weed. lol)


subjective traits:
humanistic
a natural love of nature
strong intuition
attuned to natural cycles
strong connection with the spiritual world

TSA
06-10-2008, 12:44 AM
if everyone adopted american ideology and economic system.....

1st it can't happen because our system only works when other nations are under foot.
2nd our economy is partly based off of war profiteering. how is that a good thing?
3rd we are babies in the whole scheme of things and we are already in decline.



race "powers".....

whites see things through a leftbrained lens. everything must be concrete and objectified. they rely on and learn from externals (tools, machines, western medicine, other people)

this is good for western science. but western science hit a roadblock when they tried to unify the 4 forces of the universe into a single equation. to truly unify them you must consider the 5th force, the mind.

mind over matter is an eastern concept.


blacks and the rest of the melaninated world see things through a right brained lens. everything is everything. they learn from and rely on the internal, spirit.
this is good for creativity spirituality intuition.

few people have found an equilibrium between the left and right brain.
egyptians did. the marriage of mind/body/spirit/science/religion/philosophy is echoed throughout their culture.
this is how they were able to master mathematics, architecture and science.




dude, that's not true.
quit.
White people have tool powers
Black people have god powers
Asian people have heat vision
Papua New Guienas can melt.


doesnt this, for a man with a college education sound very, very, very far fetched?

This would mean that the average englishman is more tool oriented then Leonardo Da Vinci, George washington carver, imotep, so on, so forth.

im not even gonna justify this racial self esteem shield with an blown out analogy. this is just goofy. the fuck do eskimos have? ice breath

mexicans all talking to fish and shit

Koolish
06-10-2008, 12:52 AM
all people of color.
melanin is found in every organ of the body

you can:

objective traits:
see more of the spectrum
hear a wider range of frequencies
process more vitamins
need less sleep
have more energy
are more receptive to narcotics (this is a biggie, cocaine has a much greater effect on people of color, we also get higher off weed. lol)


subjective traits:
humanistic
a natural love of nature
strong intuition
attuned to natural cycles
strong connection with the spiritual world





what if a person devoid of melanin expressed all of those subjective traits? because i know people full of melanin that would call all of those gay.

where is the evidence supporting the effects of melanin on the mind? (i am unaware of it, not claiming it doesn't exist)

TSA
06-10-2008, 12:55 AM
what about albinos, are they mentally altered, or do they just blink a lot.

and like koolish said. COUNT-LESS white ppl have expressed the melanin qualities you listed.

more noteable ones then black ppl.

all that your in the end saying is white ppl are smarter and black ppl are more religious.

TSA
06-10-2008, 01:01 AM
if everyone adopted american ideology and economic system.....

1st it can't happen because our system only works when other nations are under foot.
2nd our economy is partly based off of war profiteering. how is that a good thing?
3rd we are babies in the whole scheme of things and we are already in decline.

we lived fast and died young. and it's not the american system, its the system the world has been going by for the past 6000 years. probably more. Adopting it is vital

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-10-2008, 01:02 AM
Ice breath LOL



Ive allways had lots of respect for East Europeans and Russians.. i think these people have a great mentality.. compared to anyone on the planet. No competion.

TSA
06-10-2008, 01:08 AM
they probably immigrants. most immigrants are gonna make their home look like a basket of geniuses cause the smart ambitious ones are the ones that leave

then you go to the country and they're all dumbasses like everywhere else

Longbongcilvaringz
06-10-2008, 01:50 AM
from watching some of styles vids a while ago, i ;kind of figured that he was one of "those guys".

maybe i didnt want to believe it , i dont know.

but yeah, i just dont know, this thread is, i dont know.

if i had the time, id... i dont know.

i mean, obviously i do have the time, but yeah, i just dont know about anything anymore.

its all murky.

the lines are blurred.

i dont know.

Longbongcilvaringz
06-10-2008, 01:52 AM
actuallym, TSA pretty much says stuff i would say.

not in the same manner, but its probably better that way.

ill let him do things.

STYLE
06-10-2008, 02:07 AM
a bird can sense electro magnetic waves to navigate during migration.

a dolphin can communicate and attack using soundwaves

a bee can process ultraviolet light.


our brains are superior to theirs. why do these concepts seem so ridiculous?





tsa you believe whatever the rednecks that you worship tell you.
fine.... you ain't shit and there is nothing special about you.
we both agree on something.


fact : the darker a color is the more light/energy is absorbed. so the greater amount of melanin in the eyes means more light is abosorbed. more of the spectrum is received.

fact: the pineal gland produces serotonin. In the central nervous system, serotonin plays an important role as a neurotransmitter in the modulation of anger, aggression, body temperature, mood, sleep, sexuality, appetite, and metabolism, as well as stimulating vomiting.

fact: melanin molecule absorbs vibrational energy such as sound and light.
more melain=more sound absorbed=more frequencies heard

fact: the pineal gland communicates information about environmental lighting to various parts of the body. light is received by the retina and signals the hypothalmus. the hypothalmus coordinates biological clock signals. from there it goes to the pineal gland where the info is distributed throughout the body.

so the pineal gland does keep you in tune with natural cycles and biorhythms.


fact:caucasians have a calcified pineal gland and very low melanin levels.


i'll stop here because TSA has trouble reading.


like i said for the 3rd time. everything has a spectrum.

i'm sure there are black people with calcified pineal glands.

trying to objectify what i'm saying is a leftbrained activity. try using the other side.


and its not black asian mexican ect ect

its people of color and people without color.

all melaniated people, animals and plants get beneficial vitamins and nutrients from the sun

non melaninated people get cancer, liverspots or just burn.

these are the facts.


and since tsa only accepts info when it comes from a white person.....


colorado state
http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/otherendo/pineal.html

Nat Inst Mental Health
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/149/3683/542

Longbongcilvaringz
06-10-2008, 02:29 AM
Im having real trouble coming to grips with the assertion that people with higher levels of melanin are some how better positioned as recipients of vitamins from ultra violet light.

"Non melaninated people" (these people are albinos i guess?) are extremely rare, and this is a desease in itself. Im not sure how this supports your argument.

The points above this are contentious, and are based on "feelings" and "hunches" as oppose to evidence.

Your drawing conclusions where conclusions cannot logically be plucked from the little evidence presented.

The use of words such as "spectrum" further confuses me, and i feel as though it doesnt aid your attempt to justify your points.

But, just for instance, this statement:

fact : the darker a color is the more light/energy is absorbed. so the greater amount of melanin in the eyes means more light is absorbed. more of the spectrum is received.

Is confusing and contentious.

What do you mean "more light/energy is absorbed"?

Low levels of melanin allow for greater absorption of vitamins as the result of UV light, as far as i understand.

Evidently, i am not a scientist, but i feel your assimilation of scientific assertions into what is essentially a philosophical point, is confusing and misleading.

I cannot contend the subsequent follow on argument, because i dont have the correct level of scientific knowledge.

I mean, simply, i am a white person, my eyes are very dark though.

Does this somehow mean that i am able to absorb greater benefits from the light/energy? Or does my calcified pineal gland negate this?


My 'feeling' is that any attempted scientific proof that one 'race' is inherently at a psychologically disposition, to do evil or whatever else, is extremely presumptuous and flawed. Im yet to be convinced otherwise. There are 'black' people all over the world, yet all these 'theories' seem to focus solely on an African concept of 'Blackness'.

I dont know, some explanation would be good though.

LORD NOSE
06-10-2008, 02:32 AM
you win the award for most annoying poster to ever post on WTC hands down



now let me start with saying, you and sunny are the ONLY two to call me annoying.


arrogance is thinking that everything i say is about you. dummy. i was referring to TSA.

yes thinking that everything people say is about you is one of an arrogant persons traits - when i wrote "you win the award for most annoying poster to ever post on WTC hands down"
i was honestly talking about TSA - you would be the second most annoying poster WTC has seen - i can see now how you would think that i was talking about you -




now let me start with saying, you and sunny are the ONLY two to call me annoying.
i'd be annoyed, i guess, if someone came in here and knocked my out of the dominant spot and reduced me to calling them big brother. but then again i'll NEVER know.

you wasn't clear on who you was talking about ...........dummy
just thank me i linked this thread in that other thread so that you'd get the chance to talk about your silly little world - nobody gives a fuck about your world - this thread was dam near on the second page with only my reply -








he was THE dominant gen chatter until PSA. then the facade was shattered. after that it became open season on TSA when b4 he was untouchable.
now i am the untouchable one.

god damn get over it. or atleast get over yourself.

ugly as it gets

lmao - your the dominant gen chatter huh - and you posted some funny pictures and some stale jokes to knock him out of that spot huh - how old did you say you were again ? 12 ?
you playin yourself -
i leave you alone and don't say anything to you - then you come around after about 3 or 4 days mentioning my name, having some corny sarcastic bullshit to say about me - so i go and snap your bra straps, your husband patty cakes jumps in - i punch him in his jaw - he falls you start scratching and swinging - i hold you by your forehead and laugh - then send you home with ripped up panty hose and no bus fare - and you're mad about this - just leave me alone yo - don't quote me, don't mention my name and all will be good for you - you must be one of those bitches who loves abuse -

LORD NOSE
06-10-2008, 02:40 AM
from watching some of styles vids a while ago, i ;kind of figured that he was one of "those guys".

maybe i didnt want to believe it , i dont know.

but yeah, i just dont know, this thread is, i dont know.

if i had the time, id... i dont know.

i mean, obviously i do have the time, but yeah, i just dont know about anything anymore.

its all murky.

the lines are blurred.

i dont know.

yall getting a divorce now ?




BTW - Gavina - TSA is funnier than you - stop trying to be a comedian and talk more about melanin and the spirit world and other shit you really know nothing about

STYLE
06-10-2008, 02:53 AM
okay who farted?

LORD NOSE
06-10-2008, 03:00 AM
okay who farted?




look down and you'll find your answer
















































http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff29/Pimplegionrecords/stillfat.jpg

BornPower
06-10-2008, 11:39 AM
we lived fast and died young. and it's not the american system, its the system the world has been going by for the past 6000 years. probably more. Adopting it is vital

Not true. there are many documented civilizations that prospered for thousands of years using a system that's almost the opposite of ours. Look at the Chinese...

what about albinos, are they mentally altered, or do they just blink a lot.

all that your in the end saying is white ppl are smarter and black ppl are more religious.

religeous? the euros came up with that concept. for others it was an understood sector is the make up of everyday life.
and albinos are are just deficient in melanin (but that doesn't mean that this condition can't be combined with other maladies).

dude, that's not true.
quit.
White people have tool powers
Black people have god powers
Asian people have heat vision
Papua New Guienas can melt.


doesnt this, for a man with a college education sound very, very, very far fetched?

This would mean that the average englishman is more tool oriented then Leonardo Da Vinci, George washington carver, imotep, so on, so forth.

im not even gonna justify this racial self esteem shield with an blown out analogy. this is just goofy. the fuck do eskimos have? ice breath

mexicans all talking to fish and shit

WTF?! was this even supposed to make sense? I think not. U didn't either.

all countries are destant to fail, all countries want to be in americas position, so adopting the american system is a win


wu-tang has ruined a lot of your lives

if u truly believe this then you know nothing of economics or other countries

TSA
06-10-2008, 12:28 PM
this system is not "ours", im gonna be it in simple terms, but to excel over other civilizations you need to step on other ppls feet, it's a true fact. China probably used it just as much as we did. China in the real sense the empire of Chin, a tiny part of the north easter section of the blob we now call china. the rest of it was conquer through war and kept through oppression, and in times of china's history it had had domain over areas that aren't ethically Chin, Han Chinese, or even Chinese such as vietnam and so forth.

China is currently bullying it's way up by cheating international rules and reinforcing forced labor when need be and an iron clamp on dissidents.

they suck too.


also, all european religious concepts come from the middle east, so your wrong about them not being the ones that seperated the two, though they did do wonders for the world of secular thought, but also didn't invent it.

or also generalizing europeans, because purtians for example didn't seperate faith and everyday life among others.


also, all countries are destant to fail, OR will never maintain a position of affulence for an eternity, it's not economics, it's life.

BornPower
06-10-2008, 01:20 PM
maybe, maybe not. I don't have the facts at hand to refute your arguements, but you do have a way of making the most ridiculous positions defendable. U'd make a great MONK.

Koolish
06-10-2008, 01:49 PM
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=4340

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1511/is_n11_v15/ai_16387998/pg_4

"People with albinism, who have no melanin in their skin, hair, or eyes, have normal amounts of melanin in their brain cells."

STYLE
06-10-2008, 02:04 PM
TSA has no idea what he is talking about, he needs to provide evidence to support his claims.
the chinese believed in isotionism. they built a FUCKNG WALL AROUND THE COUNTRY!
they only began to run into problems when other nations decided to invade.
this is why china is 98% Han(ethnic group) Chinese. imagine that. billions of people all the same race genetically. in a way, all chinese DO look the same. lol

spirituality and religion are two different things.

no i am not saying black people are more religious. READ my post and you will find my answer.

you keep trying to objectify my comments. stop being a redneck.

TSA
06-10-2008, 03:49 PM
your dumb.
the americans believed in isolationism

today more of traditional mongolia is under chinese control then mongolian control. tibet and other non han chinese regions are considered china.
almost all of south east asia, tiawan, korea, all that a history of periodic chinese domination control.

the reason there's so many more han chinese is because there's a lot of them period.
america is 85% white, does it mean this is white land, no, it means there's a lot of white people.

the japanese as well, 98 or more % japanese but took over a lot of Ainu and Okinawan land until both ethnicities almost don't exist anymore. But they also had a period of isolationism.

it's not an american system, it's a world system that america is good at.

and your saving black ppl have greater potential to be spirially receptive. cool. but me saying black ppl are more religious is a simplification of a ridiculous racism notion developed more as a comeback then a philosophy or theory.

STYLE
06-10-2008, 05:17 PM
no there are different types of chinese.
han, uigur, mongol, etc.

china has natural boundaries and the final boundary is the great wall.

america is not 85%white. you are pulling numbers out of your ass.

but lets explore you imaginary world and say that it is....now to make an accurate comparason, we would have to say that america was 85% northern irish.
that would make america a northern irish country.

this is the level of ethnic homogenization.
china has 1.6+ billion people 98% are HAN chinese.

you can't dazzle me with your bullshit. you have no idea what you are talking about.


no spirituality and religion are two completely different things.

you are trying to simplify something that does not need simplification.

basically you are trying to CHANGE what i said to fit you misinformed and uninformed take on the world.

you don't read and you are culturally and physically isolated from reality.
you are inexperienced and naive.
do some real research then come back.


for christ sake, you can't even formulate a coherent sentence, and its not misspelling. its like you don't know the english lang.


"also, all countries are destant to fail"
wtf can you tell anyone when this is the level of your education?

i mean really.... "destant"


DESTANT?

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2824685/2/istockphoto_2824685_he_s_a_dunce.jpg

TSA
06-10-2008, 05:25 PM
if chinas bourders were natural we wouldn't have the whole TIBET thing goin one, China's boarders like that of any country are not natural

there's just more han chinese then the rest again more of mongolia is in china then mongolia, again china has had a history of imperialism over every country it boarders. Korea vietnam so on and so forth.

sometimes you say stuff just to be on the opposite side of what im saying

STYLE
06-10-2008, 05:32 PM
you saying that is like saying lincoln nebraska is nigerian
because YOU live there.

ALL those other cultures and races are A DROP IN THE OCEAN compared to the number of HAN.
1.5 billion han compared to 100 million of ALL THE OTHER ethnicities combined.
stop and think b4 you respond this time. stop. think. respond.




you have the mountains, desert and the ocean. these are called NATURAL BOUNDARIES.
During ancient times, the only barriers the Chinese had were the natural barriers such as the Hymalayas to the southwest, the Taklamakan Desert to the west, the China Sea to the southeast, and the Yellow Sea to the northeast. To the north was a huge open steppe, or grassy plain, that left invaders an open area to attack and destroy. http://members.tripod.com/MaryannWatson/China/NATURALBARRIERS1.JPG The Hymalayas acted as a barrier by giving invaders less of a chance of attacking because of rocky cliffs and steep mountain sides. The Taklamakan Desert made enemies forfeit the walk and they thought that they would starve. http://members.tripod.com/MaryannWatson/China/hymalayas.jpg
The two sea's, Yellow and China, gave enemies a challenge of finding a way to cross it. Building boats was difficult, so they had no way of crossing the Seas. The enemies tried many times to attack from the west through the open steppe; many times they succeeded but also many times they failed.

the same reason that many states are divided the way that they are:

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/rivers/map.GIF

you are really showing how dumb you are.
you need to get a REAL education. or pay attention in school.

V4D3R
06-10-2008, 05:53 PM
Your breaking the code of 7 commandments that you created. Irony.

STYLE
06-10-2008, 06:01 PM
Your breaking the code of 7 commandments that you created. Irony.

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/%7Eatb28/willispage_files/image003.jpg

V4D3R
06-10-2008, 06:04 PM
Not just you -
this should refresh the cogs
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46361

Olive Oil Goombah
06-10-2008, 06:20 PM
LOL...good times at the KTL.

TSA
06-10-2008, 06:20 PM
it doesn't matter hows got more ppl, to act like they don't exist cause there's a lot more chinese ppl is dumb.

as i was saying, China's boarders contain various nations that aren't ethnically chinese

STYLE
06-10-2008, 07:05 PM
Not just you -
this should refresh the cogs
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46361

read what i wrote....

it doesn't matter hows got more ppl, to act like they don't exist cause there's a lot more chinese ppl is dumb.

as i was saying, China's boarders contain various nations that aren't ethnically chinese

so the grand scheme of things, the nigerian demographic of nebraska is significant ?

nebraska pop=1,768,331
black nebraskans=4.4%=74,800
nigerians =?%=?

i thought i asked you to think THEN respond....


China's boarders contain various nations that aren't ethnically chinese

wrong.
CHINESE ETHNIC GROUPS.....
Han (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese) (zh:汉族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B1%89%E6%97%8F): Hn Z) 98% of 1.6 billion......all the rest add up to 2% appx 100million. but they are all chinese.

Zhuang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuang_people) (zh:壮族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A3%AE%E6%97%8F): Zhung Z)
Manchu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu) (zh:满族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%BB%A1%E6%97%8F): Mǎn Z)
Hui (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hui_people) (zh:回族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%9E%E6%97%8F): Hu Z)
Miao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao_people) (zh:苗族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8B%97%E6%97%8F): Mio Z) (Hmong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hmong))
Uyghurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people) (zh:维吾尔族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BB%B4%E5%90%BE%E5%B0%94%E6%97%8F): Wiwěr Z)
Yi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_people) (zh:彝族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BD%9D%E6%97%8F): Y Z)
Tujia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tujia) (zh:土家族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9C%9F%E5%AE%B6%E6%97%8F): Tǔjiā Z)
Mongols (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Mongols_in_China) (zh:蒙古族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%92%99%E5%8F%A4%E6%97%8F): Měnggǔ Z)
Tibetan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_people) (zh:藏族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%97%8F%E6%97%8F): Zng Z) (including Amdowa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdo) and Khampa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khamba))
Buyei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyei) (zh:布依族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B8%83%E4%BE%9D%E6%97%8F): Byī Z)
Dong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_people) (zh:侗族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BE%97%E6%97%8F): Dng Z)
Yao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yao_people) (zh:瑶族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%91%B6%E6%97%8F): Yo Z)
Korean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Koreans_in_China) (zh:朝鲜族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9C%9D%E9%B2%9C%E6%97%8F): Choxiǎn Z)
Bai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bai) (zh:白族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%99%BD%E6%97%8F): Bi Z)
Hani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hani_people) (zh:哈尼族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%93%88%E5%B0%BC%E6%97%8F): Hān Z)
Li (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_people) (zh:黎族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%BB%8E%E6%97%8F): L Z)
Kazakh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhs) (zh:哈萨克族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%93%88%E8%90%A8%E5%85%8B%E6%97%8F): Hāsk Z)
She (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_people) (zh:畲族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%95%B2%E6%97%8F): Shē Z)
Lisu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisu_people) (zh:傈僳族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%82%88%E5%83%B3%E6%97%8F): Ls Z)
Gelao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelao) (zh:仡佬族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BB%A1%E4%BD%AC%E6%97%8F): Gēlǎo Z)
Lahu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahu_people) (zh:拉祜族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%8B%89%E7%A5%9C%E6%97%8F): Lāh Z)
Dongxiang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongxiang_people) (zh:东乡族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%9C%E4%B9%A1%E6%97%8F): Dōngxiāng Z)
Va (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Va_people) (zh:佤族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD%A4%E6%97%8F): Wǎ Z)
Sui (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shui) (zh:水族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B0%B4%E6%97%8F): Shuǐ Z)
Nakhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakhi) (zh:纳西族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BA%B3%E8%A5%BF%E6%97%8F): Nxī Z) ( includes the Mosuo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo) (zh:摩梭 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%91%A9%E6%A2%AD): Msuō))
Qiang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiang) (zh:羌族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BE%8C%E6%97%8F): Qiāng Z)
Tu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_people) (zh:土族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9C%9F%E6%97%8F): Tǔ Z)
Xibe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xibe) (zh:锡伯族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%94%A1%E4%BC%AF%E6%97%8F): Xb Z)
Mulao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulao) (zh:仫佬族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BB%AB%E4%BD%AC%E6%97%8F): Mlǎo Z)
Kyrgyz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyz) (zh:柯尔克孜族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9F%AF%E5%B0%94%E5%85%8B%E5%AD%9C%E6%97%8F): Kēěrkzī Z)
Daur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daur) (zh:达斡尔族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%BE%BE%E6%96%A1%E5%B0%94%E6%97%8F): Dwěr Z)
Jingpo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingpo) (zh:景颇族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%99%AF%E9%A2%87%E6%97%8F): Jǐngpō Z)
Salar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salar) (zh:撒拉族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%92%92%E6%8B%89%E6%97%8F): Sǎl Z)
Blang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blang) (zh:布朗族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B8%83%E6%9C%97%E6%97%8F): Blǎng Z)
Maonan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maonan) (zh:毛南族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AF%9B%E5%8D%97%E6%97%8F): Monn Z)
Tajik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajiks_in_China) (zh:塔吉克族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%94%E5%90%89%E5%85%8B%E6%97%8F): Tǎjk Z)
Pumi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumi) (zh:普米族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%99%AE%E7%B1%B3%E6%97%8F): Pǔmǐ Z)
Achang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achang) (zh:阿昌族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%98%BF%E6%98%8C%E6%97%8F): Āchāng Z)
Nu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu_people) (zh:怒族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%80%92%E6%97%8F): N Z)
Ewenki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evenks) (zh:鄂温克族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%84%82%E6%B8%A9%E5%85%8B%E6%97%8F): wēnk Z)
Jing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people_in_China) (zh:京族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%AC%E6%97%8F): Jīng Z) (The same group as Vietnamese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people) or Kinh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinh) people)
Jino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jino) (zh:基诺族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9F%BA%E8%AF%BA%E6%97%8F): Jīnu Z)
De'ang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De%27ang) (zh:德昂族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BE%B7%E6%98%82%E6%97%8F): Dng Z)
Uzbeks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbeks) (zh:乌孜别克族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B9%8C%E5%AD%9C%E5%88%AB%E5%85%8B%E6%97%8F): Wūzībik Z)
Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Russians_in_China) (zh:俄罗斯族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BF%84%E7%BD%97%E6%96%AF%E6%97%8F): luōsī Z)
Yugur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugur) (zh:裕固族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A3%95%E5%9B%BA%E6%97%8F): Yg Z)
Bonan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonan) (zh:保安族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%89%E6%97%8F): Bǎoān Z)
Monba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monpa) (zh:门巴族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%97%A8%E5%B7%B4%E6%97%8F): Mnbā Z)
Oroqen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroqen) (zh:鄂伦春族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%84%82%E4%BC%A6%E6%98%A5%E6%97%8F): lnchūn Z)
Derung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derung) (zh:独龙族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8B%AC%E9%BE%99%E6%97%8F): Dlng Z)
Tatars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars) (zh:塔塔尔族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%94%E5%A1%94%E5%B0%94%E6%97%8F): Tǎtǎěr Z)
Hezhen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanai) (zh:赫哲族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%B5%AB%E5%93%B2%E6%97%8F): Hzh Z) (the same group as Nanai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanai) on the Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia) side of the border)
Lhoba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lhoba) (zh:珞巴族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8F%9E%E5%B7%B4%E6%97%8F): Lubā Z)
Gaoshan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_aborigines) (zh:高山族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%AB%98%E5%B1%B1%E6%97%8F): Gāoshān Z) (a collective name for all Taiwanese aborigine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_aborigine) groups in the disputed region Taiwan)
a nation is a nation and various nations are not china.

there are states that border (not boarder) nebraska that contain americans that are not nebraskan. what is your point?

smh....reading IS fundamental.

STYLE
06-10-2008, 07:28 PM
National stats...
african immigrants = .02%=600,000

nigerian= .007% = 165,481

and since nebraska is "whiter" than the national average we can assume that the nigerian pop is lower than .007%
which puts nigerians in a category called "negligible".

negligible Adjective
so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering.



STYLE
Teaching
You
Lessons
Everyday

V4D3R
06-10-2008, 07:33 PM
Yea i guess nothing was written in stone. So it's open season now?

STYLE
06-10-2008, 07:41 PM
now lets get back to melanin.....

melanin is not just a skin pigment but is a chemichal compound found throughout the body.



Melanins are "rigid-backbone" conductive polymers composed of polyacetylene, polypyrrole, and polyaniline "Blacks" and their mixed copolymers.

In 1963, DE Weiss and coworkers reported [2] high electrical conductivity in a melanin, iodine-doped and oxidized polypyrrole "Black".

They achieved the quite high conductivity of 1 Ohm/cm. A decade later, John McGinness, and coworkers reported a high conductivity "ON" state in a voltage-controlled solid-state threshold switch made with DOPA melanin.

Further, this material emitted a flash of lightelectroluminescencewhen it switched.

Melanin also shows negative resistance, a classic property of electronically-active conductive polymers.

Likewise, melanin is the best sound-absorbing material known, due to strong electron-phonon coupling. This may be related to melanin's presence in the inner ear.
now if your body produces more melanin than someone else's, is it reasonable to suggest that more melanin would enhance hearing and vision?

would a greater amount of melanin accelerate muscle response due to its conductivity?

what about brain activity?

since the pineal gland plays a huge part in regulating the biological clock, would a fully functioning pineal be better or worse in terms of the sleep/wake cycle?

since the pineal gland also regulates seratonin production, would a fully functioning pineal be better or worse for the modulation of anger, aggression, body temperature, mood, sleep, sexuality, appetite, and metabolism?



i'm just sayin....



V4D3R,
i think that beef should be left at the door of the vat.

dems and reps argue all the time on cspan but have drinks and golf after hrs.

diggy
06-10-2008, 08:15 PM
It's about time ThaShaolinAssassin got put in his place.

}:T

V4D3R
06-10-2008, 08:30 PM
You know something - this is the Tree of Life - melanin.
Think about how melanin has conductive properties right....now imagine adding some Orme/Manna.

I do notice how every fuckin winter i go through a depression up north. I look at the map and see how far the equator is. I love the sun but have not been friends with it that much this year - the weather was real nice sunny for one week so far in April.

Your on the right track with this. This is facts kids.

The holes though tend to deal with the emotional state of people - I think anybody can control/choose their destiny ultimately. Decisions to be evil is the culprit - but maybe the lack of melanin has some ramifications.

Seasonal disorder has something to do with this.

Hiding from God's light.

This Native story about the reptilians reminds me of this shit yo. They tricked mankind into separating from The Creator's light - brought some to the dark caves - knowing this would disconnect them from The Creator's light.

STYLE
06-10-2008, 09:19 PM
the book of eden tells about how after being cast out, adam and eve suffered in a cave and wept.

melanin in plants is a key part of photosynthesis.


i keep repeating this:
EVERYONE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DO GOOD OR EVIL

emotion... serotonin modulates mood, anger, sexuality and agression.

the pineal regulates serotonin. a calcified pineal would have adverse effects on mood anger aggression and sexuality.

an angry aggressive moody person is not exactly a model citizen.

caucasians, as a group, have many reproductive maladies and sexual deviants.....stats coming be patient.

now combine these traits with a harsh environment and scarce resources.

but just like someone born without athletic talent (larry bird) can be an NBA champ, someone with a calcified pineal can be a emotionally stable, civilized individual.

a person with homosexual tendencies may live a lifetime without acting upon them.

a person who is wired to be civil may be a thugged out savage.

nature v nurture

and the debate continues....


It's about time ThaShaolinAssassin got put in his place.

}:T

all it takes is patience to wade through his sea of bullshit.
arm yourself with facts and he will hang himself.

he does not read, has a very very narrow (nebraska, 19 yo) view of the world, bases everyone's life off of his life experience, and has not mastered a language.

most folks get frustrated because he is slick with manipluating facts and ideas.

he doesn't realize that i was nationally ranked in debate and a lifetime member of the national forensics league.

he's trying to bullshit a better bullshitter.

STYLE
06-10-2008, 09:24 PM
V4D3R- S.A.D. is real than a mf.
mine was severe due to my season of awakening being in the summer. herukhuti (metu neter)

so i go thru a strong depression from nov-feb. i have to really get absorbed in creative activities on order to keep my cycle from dipping to far into the destructive. hense the sig explosion.

its much much worse up north than here in the south where its only cold for 3-4 months.



but on the flipside, in the summer i wildout. and have to regulate myself because my energy level spikes and i get into trouble.

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-10-2008, 10:19 PM
its much much worse up north than here in the south where its only cold for 3-4 months.


there is not less light but More longer seasons of brightness compared to long seasons of darkness


which obvisously fucks with melatonin flow, therefor affecting everyone regardless of how much they have melanin.

http://www.visitfinland.com/ima/Page/finland_midsummer_sun.jpg

midnight


do u also know about the fact a lighter skin can produce vitamin D faster than dark skin? that should balance things out a lot right? and yea i know sunlight is also most harmful to light skin. but also the sunlight is not as strong in north.

TSA
06-10-2008, 10:27 PM
read what i wrote....



so the grand scheme of things, the nigerian demographic of nebraska is significant ?

nebraska pop=1,768,331
black nebraskans=4.4%=74,800
nigerians =?%=?

i thought i asked you to think THEN respond....



wrong.
CHINESE ETHNIC GROUPS.....

Han (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese) (zh:汉族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B1%89%E6%97%8F): Hn Z) 98% of 1.6 billion......all the rest add up to 2% appx 100million. but they are all chinese.
Zhuang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuang_people) (zh:壮族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A3%AE%E6%97%8F): Zhung Z)
Manchu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu) (zh:满族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%BB%A1%E6%97%8F): Mǎn Z)
Hui (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hui_people) (zh:回族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%9E%E6%97%8F): Hu Z)
Miao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao_people) (zh:苗族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8B%97%E6%97%8F): Mio Z) (Hmong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hmong))
Uyghurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people) (zh:维吾尔族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BB%B4%E5%90%BE%E5%B0%94%E6%97%8F): Wiwěr Z)
Yi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_people) (zh:彝族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BD%9D%E6%97%8F): Y Z)
Tujia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tujia) (zh:土家族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9C%9F%E5%AE%B6%E6%97%8F): Tǔjiā Z)
Mongols (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Mongols_in_China) (zh:蒙古族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%92%99%E5%8F%A4%E6%97%8F): Měnggǔ Z)
Tibetan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_people) (zh:藏族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%97%8F%E6%97%8F): Zng Z) (including Amdowa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdo) and Khampa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khamba))
Buyei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyei) (zh:布依族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B8%83%E4%BE%9D%E6%97%8F): Byī Z)
Dong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_people) (zh:侗族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BE%97%E6%97%8F): Dng Z)
Yao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yao_people) (zh:瑶族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%91%B6%E6%97%8F): Yo Z)
Korean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Koreans_in_China) (zh:朝鲜族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9C%9D%E9%B2%9C%E6%97%8F): Choxiǎn Z)
Bai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bai) (zh:白族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%99%BD%E6%97%8F): Bi Z)
Hani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hani_people) (zh:哈尼族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%93%88%E5%B0%BC%E6%97%8F): Hān Z)
Li (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_people) (zh:黎族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%BB%8E%E6%97%8F): L Z)
Kazakh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhs) (zh:哈萨克族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%93%88%E8%90%A8%E5%85%8B%E6%97%8F): Hāsk Z)
She (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_people) (zh:畲族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%95%B2%E6%97%8F): Shē Z)
Lisu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisu_people) (zh:傈僳族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%82%88%E5%83%B3%E6%97%8F): Ls Z)
Gelao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelao) (zh:仡佬族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BB%A1%E4%BD%AC%E6%97%8F): Gēlǎo Z)
Lahu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahu_people) (zh:拉祜族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%8B%89%E7%A5%9C%E6%97%8F): Lāh Z)
Dongxiang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongxiang_people) (zh:东乡族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%9C%E4%B9%A1%E6%97%8F): Dōngxiāng Z)
Va (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Va_people) (zh:佤族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD%A4%E6%97%8F): Wǎ Z)
Sui (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shui) (zh:水族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B0%B4%E6%97%8F): Shuǐ Z)
Nakhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakhi) (zh:纳西族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BA%B3%E8%A5%BF%E6%97%8F): Nxī Z) ( includes the Mosuo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo) (zh:摩梭 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%91%A9%E6%A2%AD): Msuō))
Qiang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiang) (zh:羌族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BE%8C%E6%97%8F): Qiāng Z)
Tu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_people) (zh:土族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9C%9F%E6%97%8F): Tǔ Z)
Xibe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xibe) (zh:锡伯族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%94%A1%E4%BC%AF%E6%97%8F): Xb Z)
Mulao (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulao) (zh:仫佬族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BB%AB%E4%BD%AC%E6%97%8F): Mlǎo Z)
Kyrgyz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyz) (zh:柯尔克孜族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9F%AF%E5%B0%94%E5%85%8B%E5%AD%9C%E6%97%8F): Kēěrkzī Z)
Daur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daur) (zh:达斡尔族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%BE%BE%E6%96%A1%E5%B0%94%E6%97%8F): Dwěr Z)
Jingpo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingpo) (zh:景颇族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%99%AF%E9%A2%87%E6%97%8F): Jǐngpō Z)
Salar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salar) (zh:撒拉族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%92%92%E6%8B%89%E6%97%8F): Sǎl Z)
Blang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blang) (zh:布朗族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B8%83%E6%9C%97%E6%97%8F): Blǎng Z)
Maonan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maonan) (zh:毛南族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AF%9B%E5%8D%97%E6%97%8F): Monn Z)
Tajik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajiks_in_China) (zh:塔吉克族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%94%E5%90%89%E5%85%8B%E6%97%8F): Tǎjk Z)
Pumi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumi) (zh:普米族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%99%AE%E7%B1%B3%E6%97%8F): Pǔmǐ Z)
Achang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achang) (zh:阿昌族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%98%BF%E6%98%8C%E6%97%8F): Āchāng Z)
Nu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu_people) (zh:怒族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%80%92%E6%97%8F): N Z)
Ewenki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evenks) (zh:鄂温克族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%84%82%E6%B8%A9%E5%85%8B%E6%97%8F): wēnk Z)
Jing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people_in_China) (zh:京族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%AC%E6%97%8F): Jīng Z) (The same group as Vietnamese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people) or Kinh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinh) people)
Jino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jino) (zh:基诺族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9F%BA%E8%AF%BA%E6%97%8F): Jīnu Z)
De'ang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De%27ang) (zh:德昂族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BE%B7%E6%98%82%E6%97%8F): Dng Z)
Uzbeks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbeks) (zh:乌孜别克族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B9%8C%E5%AD%9C%E5%88%AB%E5%85%8B%E6%97%8F): Wūzībik Z)
Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Russians_in_China) (zh:俄罗斯族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BF%84%E7%BD%97%E6%96%AF%E6%97%8F): luōsī Z)
Yugur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugur) (zh:裕固族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A3%95%E5%9B%BA%E6%97%8F): Yg Z)
Bonan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonan) (zh:保安族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BF%9D%E5%AE%89%E6%97%8F): Bǎoān Z)
Monba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monpa) (zh:门巴族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%97%A8%E5%B7%B4%E6%97%8F): Mnbā Z)
Oroqen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroqen) (zh:鄂伦春族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%84%82%E4%BC%A6%E6%98%A5%E6%97%8F): lnchūn Z)
Derung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derung) (zh:独龙族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8B%AC%E9%BE%99%E6%97%8F): Dlng Z)
Tatars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars) (zh:塔塔尔族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A1%94%E5%A1%94%E5%B0%94%E6%97%8F): Tǎtǎěr Z)
Hezhen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanai) (zh:赫哲族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%B5%AB%E5%93%B2%E6%97%8F): Hzh Z) (the same group as Nanai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanai) on the Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia) side of the border)
Lhoba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lhoba) (zh:珞巴族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%8F%9E%E5%B7%B4%E6%97%8F): Lubā Z)
Gaoshan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_aborigines) (zh:高山族 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%AB%98%E5%B1%B1%E6%97%8F): Gāoshān Z) (a collective name for all Taiwanese aborigine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_aborigine) groups in the disputed region Taiwan)
a nation is a nation and various nations are not china.

there are states that border (not boarder) nebraska that contain americans that are not nebraskan. what is your point?

smh....reading IS fundamental.



dude, you don't really know what you talking about


if china didn't consist of nations that weren't chinese, which i does style, then it wouldn't be an empire.

Tibetians are about as chinese as the japanese
mongolians are not chinese and have a different language and culture
all of desert china is not chinese
they're just dominated by the chinese empire whose boards have fluctated from time to time.


are they chinese, yeah, in your terms, yeah, they're a part of china aren't they? just like nebraskas are american cause they're a part of america.

but they became a part of china after the chinese took them over by force and therefore engaged in the "american system" you speak of and are trying to say china is not guilt from

Vietnam has an imperialist past with china, as does tibet as does korea as does mongolia, whose land is dominated by the chinese

if your not able to see this then your indeed not a bright person because it's BEYOND known fact. The Han Chinese you speak of are the majority because they're there just a lot more of them, they, with their advantages gained from this, used their force to expand thier nation into and empire for the chinese emperor and therefore china is an imperialist country with artifical boarders.
this is beyond known fact.

TSA
06-10-2008, 10:33 PM
the history of china is also one of imperialistic conquest and the country is named China because out of several warring kingdoms, the emperor of Chin, Chin Sua Wa Di (sp?) conquered and united them into an empire in his likeness Chin'a or China.

They then proceeded to take over everyone around them regardless of language religion and so forth.

in the Ming Era they took boat rides around the world demanding tribute from 'barbarians'

they currently use repressive brute force to control territory that isn't chinese by history culture of ethnicity such as the majority of mongola (the country you look at on the map is outer mongolia, Inner mongolia is in china), tibet, and all the western ones in the Gobi desert and beyond.


they out populate all these ppl, but they also out populate any other ppl,

i think you've realised this as it is BEYOND common knowledge and are just arguing cause your afraid of 'losing' to TSA.


quit embarassing yourself

TSA
06-10-2008, 10:35 PM
there is not less light but More longer seasons of brightness compared to long seasons of darkness


which obvisously fucks with melatonin flow, therefor affecting everyone regardless of how much they have melanin.

http://www.visitfinland.com/ima/Page/finland_midsummer_sun.jpg

midnight


do u also know about the fact a lighter skin can produce vitamin D faster than dark skin? that should balance things out a lot right? and yea i know sunlight is also most harmful to light skin. but also the sunlight is not as strong in north.


^correct.

white ppl turned white cause its what makes sense in their environment and black ppl stayed black cause it's what makes sense in their environment.

even nordic dogs have blue eyes(a sign on low melanin).

it's not cause they're made during Yacub's 5th period woodshop class, but cause they, like all ppl, adapted to where they're at.

V4D3R
06-10-2008, 11:06 PM
there is not less light but More longer seasons of brightness compared to long seasons of darkness


which obvisously fucks with melatonin flow, therefor affecting everyone regardless of how much they have melanin.

http://www.visitfinland.com/ima/Page/finland_midsummer_sun.jpg

midnight


do u also know about the fact a lighter skin can produce vitamin D faster than dark skin? that should balance things out a lot right? and yea i know sunlight is also most harmful to light skin. but also the sunlight is not as strong in north.

I truly believe the sunlight thing has more to do with UV light then anything.
Being indoors too much might affect your daily required dosage.

As for your observation of thier being as much sunlight int he north. No.

The sun hits different parts of the world with angled streams and not direct streams of light. Shorter days as well.

They could learn something about human evolution with trees that grow in different parts of the world i assume.

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-11-2008, 12:02 AM
I truly believe the sunlight thing has more to do with UV light then anything.
Being indoors too much might affect your daily required dosage.

As for your observation of thier being as much sunlight int he north. No.

The sun hits different parts of the world with angled streams and not direct streams of light. Shorter days as well.

They could learn something about human evolution with trees that grow in different parts of the world i assume.


Ure from states right?

I live way more north than any of the American States are...

In north europe.

...The pic shows exactly how the midsummer midnights look here. Some nights are even more brighter.


But yeah im not saying theres nothing else to it

just saying that theres unique things to light skin.


"The sun hits different parts of the world with angled streams and not direct streams of light. Shorter days as well."

True true. Shorter days during winter. really short, u cant allmost regonize night from day here during winter lol

STYLE
06-11-2008, 12:10 AM
do u also know about the fact a lighter skin can produce vitamin D faster than dark skin? that should balance things out a lot right? and yea i know sunlight is also most harmful to light skin. but also the sunlight is not as strong in north.

true.
this is because lower uv radiation levels require more radiation to be absorbed. dairy products also supplement vitamin D.

how long does it take for a person with dark skin to convert to light skin due to lack of exposure?

black africans have been living in europe for 1000s of years and are still dark.


but melanin isn't all about skin color.


does the need for vitamin D outweigh the need for serotonin and melatonin?

is this trade off a logical or beneficial mutation when a change in diet would be sufficient?
especially when you factor in the "odd" daily cycles of day/night, knowing that serotonin and melatonin regulate natural cycles.




TSA we have moved on from your frivolity, you figure out why what you tried to prove is wrong.

hint: figure out what makes a person chinese then research the econ gains that the various nations contribute to the sino-american system you invented.

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 12:19 AM
Ure from states right?

I live way more north than any of the American States are...

In north europe.

...The pic shows exactly how the midsummer midnights look here. Some nights are even more brighter.
I live in winterland. The Great White North. Canada.

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 01:19 AM
3. The Pineal Gland
The Pineal Gland -also called the epiphysis- looks like a miniature pine cone and is situated in the middle of the brain beneath the two brain halves, surrounded by the ventricles, under the roof of the corpus callosum (cross-beam connecting the 2 brain halves). (see picture) This active organ has, together with the Pituitary Gland (see picture), the next highest blood circulation after the kidneys. It is not protected by the blood-brain barrier and therefore makes this gland fragile to any substance entering the bloodstream. It is, for instance, very sensitive to fluoride.

Another factor involved in affecting the Pineal Gland can be excessive high or even toxic levels of an SSRI-AntiDepressant in the bloodstream. Certain individuals have a metabolic deficiency in the metabolism of anti-depressant medication. In the liver, a group of enzymes named " cytochrome P-450" enzymes, particularly the "CYP2D6 enzymes" of this group of enzymes, metabolise SSRI-AntiDepressants. When not properly metabolised, because one has a metabolic deficiency, a daily therapeutic dose can build up to excessive high or even toxic levels in the bloodstream. Hence, the Pineal Gland would be an easy target, since it is not very well protected by the blood-brain barrier. It is it's connection to serotonin what makes this organ so very interesting.

3.a. The Pineal Gland-Serotonin connection
Nicholas Giarmin, a professor of pharmacology and Daniel Freedman, a professor of psychiatry, confirmed that the human brain manufactures serotonin at various sites in the brain. For example, in the Thalamus, they discovered 61 nanograms of serotonin per gram of tissue; in the Hippocampus, 56 ng.; in the Central Gray Section of the Midbrain, they found 482 ng. But in the Pineal Gland, they found 3140 ng. of serotonin per gram of tissue. The Pineal Gland was unmistakably the richest site of serotonin in the brain! This discovery implicates the Pineal Gland as an important site of serotonergic activity.

The neurohormone Melatonin & the Endocrine System
One of the neurotransmitters secreted by the Pineal Gland is Melatonin, also known as N-Acetyl-5-Methoxy-Tryptamine (NA-5-MT). In the Pineal Gland, serotonin converts into melatonin by enzymatic interaction. Melatonin is also an important hormone to the body, that's why it is called a neurohormone. It is necessary to regulate the function of all organs of the Endocrine System in the body. The organs or glands of the endocrine system are: the Pituitary Gland, situated in the brain; the Thyroid + Parathyroid Glands; the Thymus; the Pancreas; the Ovaries/Testes (see image). All of these endocrine organs/glands secrete their hormones to the blood. The Pituitary Gland stimulates the secretion of these hormones, while the Pineal Gland apply the brakes on them through it's neurohormone melatonin. If the endocrine organs/glands release too much of their hormones, for instance when we are stressed, then the Pineal Gland releases melatonin to counteract these hormones. Also serotonin gets released when stress is involved. The increased serotonin triggers the release of adrenaline, which allows the body to work through the stress.

The Pineal Gland is a magneto sensitive organ, what means that it is sensitive to electromagnetic fields (EMF). It is sensitive to electromagnetic waves from computer monitors, cellular phones, microwave ovens, high voltage lines, etc.. Electromagnetic fields suppress the activity of the Pineal Gland and reduce melatonin production. EMF also affect serotonin.

The neurohormone Melatonin & the Eye-SCN-Pineal Gland Axis
The Pineal Gland is also a photosensitive organ, what means that it is sensitive to light. It normally releases melatonin when it no longer receives light impulses. Just like serotonin, also melatonin has it's own day & night cycle (circadian rhythm) which begins where the cycle of serotonin normally ends. When serotonin reaches it's lowest level at night (in the dark) during slow wave sleep, the Pineal Gland starts to convert it's store of serotonin into melatonin to be released prior to REM sleep. Melatonin has it's peak around 02:00 AM. During daytime, the daylight inhibits the release of melatonin. This works as follows: when, during daytime, light reaches the eyes, then it's presence gets translated into nerve impulses, which travel through the optic nerve between the eyes and a region of the Hypothalamus called the "Suprachiasmatic Nucleus" (SCN). (see picture) The SCN in it's turn sends it's nerve impulses to the Pineal Gland. These impulses inhibit the Pineal Gland's production of melatonin until it gets dark, when it's to be released again. Melatonin is not only present in the brain and body but also in the eye! One has speculated whether or not high melatonin levels in the eyes during daylight exposure, may bring damage to them over time. Visual/eye problems (light sensitivity, spots, blurred vision) are other symptoms, frequently reported by (former) SSRI-AntiDepressant users. I questioned myself if these problems could be related to elevated melatonin levels in the eye. When serotonin accumulates in the Pineal Gland, on account of an SSRI-AntiDepressant, then it would come under pressure to produce more melatonin out of the excessive amounts of serotonin. Hence, during daytime, melatonin levels in the eyes would be significantly higher then normally would occur... But, I had to revise this hypothesis. In a PubMed study, SSRI-AntiDepressants were found not to elevate melatonin levels in humans. Although "Luvox" and "Paxil" increases melatonin to a more or lesser amount, apparently this seemed not to be the case for the other SSRI-AntiDepressants. However, since the Pineal Gland does contain a complete map of the visual field of the eyes, could there be a correlation between visual/eye problems and a dysfunctional Pineal Gland?

A case, noted by Dr. Berman, could give us some more insight into this matter:

A child was brought to a German clinic suffering from eye trouble and headaches. He was five years old and very mature, and apparently had reached the age of adolescence. He was abnormally bright mentally, discussing metaphysical and spiritual subjects. He was strongly group-conscious and only happy when sharing what he had with others. After his arrival at the clinic, he rapidly grew worse and died in a month. An autopsy showed a tumour of the pineal gland. - Berman, Louis, M.D., The Glands Regulating Personality, p. 89. Could it be that the visual/eye problems (light sensitivity, spots, blurred vision), frequently reported by (former) SSRI-AntiDepressant users, are caused by some element of Pineal Gland dysfunction?

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 01:26 AM
They are really fucking with us man - on every fucking despicable level.
They know what flouride is doing to us - and microwaves.

Fuck fuck fuck this means war.

Robert
06-11-2008, 02:14 AM
Another hilarious read brought to you by internet scholars.

Longbongcilvaringz
06-11-2008, 02:27 AM
hooray

my non confrontational, generally easy going post was completely ignored.

styles, you are pretty much a 5%er in philosophical terms.

its just interesting to me, that you oppose others so much, and then come up with this...

TSA
06-11-2008, 02:29 AM
Stylemaster in inhumanely dim.

what the fuck is sino-american economic system?

cheap toys?

you said every nation can't follow the american system of "stepping on other ppls toes" to get what they want.

i said, every nation steps on peoples toes to get that why want

you said china didn't, it's isolationist

i said china did, as the country China, is han china, or essential the Chin section of han china, taking over everyone around it.

since korea, mongolia, vietnam, tibet and various other locations have a history of chinese imperialism, i really don't see how difficult it is to sink the one in.

those ppl you mentioned, are, indeed, chinese, not because they're ethnically chinese, but cause they're members of a chinese nation build on the kingdom of Chin, taking over it's neighbors and making them chinese, which would equalify as being a toe stepper on'er

the system of dicking your way to the top is not an american invention, and you, again, can't find a country that didn't dick its way to the top.

again, not difficult to sink in, i'd find examples if i were you because the next conversation in line after this one is how toothpaste n microwaves are killing the black community's melanin(soul).

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 02:29 AM
^^Scientific blogs by brain scientists are hilarious to you?

I can honestly say man that I felt what u do because at first I was looking at a lot of this as a bunch of bullshit. Basically I looked at it like black propaganda to uplift people in dire state.

But now the facts are in. More to come...

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 02:31 AM
Melanin Pigments in Human Pineal Gland

Author(s): Koshy, S. & Vettivel, S.

Vol. 50, No. 2 (2001-07 - 2001-12)

Department of Anatomy, Christian Medical College, Vellore, India
Abstract

Masson-Fontana staining confirmed the presence of melanin pigments in the human adult pineal gland. In 1-10 years age group, the pigments were present within the pinealocytes. In 11-20 years age group also, the pigments were in the pinealocytes only. In 21-30 year age group, the pigments were in the pinealocytes and appeared in the stroma in the areas of glial fibre predominance. In 31-40 years age group onwards, the pigments were present, in addition to pinealocytes, in the stroma among the fibres. As age advanced, the amount of extracellular pigments gradually increased, extracellular pigments were more concentrated, and the extracellular pigments were more clearly seen. There was no gender difference in the amount of melanin pigments. The background comparative anatomy also is discussed.
Key words: melanocyte, melanin, pinealocytes, pineal gland
Introduction:

Melanocytes are melanin-pigment synthesizing pigment cells derived from neural crest and widely distributed in vertebrates. They are stellate cells with long processes with numerous dark brown or black granules of melanin in their cytoplasm. There function is generally, to prevent light from reaching adjacent cells. In humans, they are present in the epidermis and its appendages, oral epithelium, some mucous membranes, uveal tract of eye ball, parts of middle and internal ear, and parts of leptomeninges in the base of brain. The cells of retinal pigment epithelium, neurons in locus ceruleus and substantia nigra also synthesize melanin. Melanins are high molecular weight polymers, attached to a structural protein, to form melanoproteins, and in the humans, there are two classes, the brown-black eumelanin and red-yellow pheomelanin, both derived from a substrate tyrosine (Dyson 1995).
Pineal gland (epiphysis cerebri) was once considered to be a phylogenic relic, a vestige of a dorsal third eye, and of little functional significance; the mammalian pineal is now regarded and accepted as an endocrine gland of major regulatory importance, modifying the activity of the adenohypophysis, neurohypophysis, endocrine pancreas, parathyroids, adrenal cortex, adrenal medulla, and gonads. (de Vries and Kappers 1971; Klein 1978; Haulica and Coeulescu 1981; Reiter 1983, 1985, 1987; Malendowicz 1985; Dyson 1995).
The pineal in the big brown bat is pigmented and intensified with constant darkness (Bhatnagar and Hilton 1994). Pigmented cells in the cat pineal gland show a preferential localization at the ventral surface of the pineal gland near its distal end and the pineal pigment is melanin (Calvo et al. 1992). Presence of pigment cells is a constant characteristic in the adult dog pineal gland; the pigment is melanin (Calvo et al. 1988). Embryo ovine pineal gland has pigment cells containing melanin (Regodon et al. 1998). Pineal glands of neonates consist of cords of dark, nucleated cells, which are frequently pigmented (Min et al. 1987). In the human adult, melanin pigments gradually accumulate within the parenchymal cells with increasing age in males, whereas in females, the maximum pigmentation is noticed in 30-40 year age group and then there was a fall (Tapp and Huxley 1972). The present study was done to find whether or not the human adult pineal gland showed gender difference and age changes in the amount of melanin pigments.
Materials and Methods:

Forty pineal glands were collected from South Indian subjects (31 males and 9 females) who were accident deads, within five to six hours after death during autopsy. There were no histological postmortem changes. Age of the subjects ranged from one to eighty years. Age groups of the subjects were 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, 41-50, 5160, 61-70, 71-80 years.
Pineal glands were removed from the brain along with the superior colliculus so that the pineal recess of the third ventricle was also included. These were put in Bouin's fluid. After fixation, the specimens were processed for light microscopy. Eight-micron serial sections were cut and stained. Staining methods used were (i) haematoxylin and eosin, (ii) Masson-Fontana method for melanin, and (iii) Mallory's phosphotungstic acid haematoxylin method for neuroglial cells and nerve fibres. The arrangement of the parenchyma and stroma was observed. Melanin pigments were visually studied for location and quantity with regard to gender and age.
Observations:

Pineal gland had a well defined capsule (piamater) and septa extended from the capsule into the parenchyma dividing it into complete and incomplete lobules. Parenchyma consisted of light and dark pinealocytes and glial cells. Corpora arenacea were a constant feature (Koshy and Vettivel 2001). Melanin pigments were present in the pinealocytes and in the stroma. In 1-10 years age group, the parenchyma was highly cellular, predominantly of pinealocytes. Within the pinealocytes, melanin pigments were present. There were no extra cellular pigments. In 11-20 years age group, the parenchyma was highly cellular with the presence of pinealocytes. Pigments were present as in 1-10 year group, within the pinealocytes. In 21-30 years age group, abundant dark melanin pigments were inside the pinealocytes and in the areas of glial fibre predominance. The pinealocytes were not abundant as in 11-20 age group but extracellular pigments were in the transition areas from pinealocytes-predominance to glial fibre-predominance (Fig. 1). In pineal glands of higher age groups, 31-40, 41-50, 51-60, 61-70 years, melanin pigments were seen as clear granules, more among the fibres. The pinealocytes also had melanin pigments within them. The extra cellular pigments were more clearly seen as age advanced. There was no gender difference in the amount of melanin pigments. A gradual increase in melanin, more concentrated extracellularly, occured as age advanced.
Discussion:

Pineal gland projects from the roof of diencephalon. A recess of third ventricle extends into its stalk. The pineal was formerly considered a vestigial organ with no function but now it is known to be an active endocrine gland. Its activity is influenced by the daily cycle of light and dark and it is a link between environment and physiology of an organism (individual). It responds to annual changes in day-length and influences gonadal activity in seasonal breading species but has, though less apparent, significant effect on the reproductive system of other species that breed throughout the year. Its innervation is exclusively via sympathetic fibres that originate in the superior cervical ganglion and enter the cranial cavity accompanying blood vessels supplying the brain (Fawcet 1994).
Paired eyes of vertebrates are organs to focus a clear image upon a film of sensory cells known as retina, and these cells convey the impulses to the brain, giving their interpretation of intensity, colour, or movements. In some primitive vertebrates, there are also two different median organs, which serve as receptors for light, although not necessarily to obtain visual images. There are indications, from elasmobranch embryology, that the prevertebrates possess a metameric series of paired visual organs on the roof of the head; most of them rapidly disappear as the lateral eyes become perfect; but two pairs of dorsal eyes still hang on, almost to the cyclostome level. In lamprey, one member of each of these supposed pairs might be seen as a small bulb, attached by a stalk, to the root of the diencephalon. The anterior one (parietal stalk) does not quite reach, but the posterior (pineal eye) does reach a semitransparent spot in the skin of the head. Possibly, both bodies were present in primitive amphibian, for in frogs, the pineal is found, nearly reaching the skin; yet in some modern reptiles (sphenodon and lizards) a parietal eye is present, with the pineal redued. Among early vertebrates, the evidence of these organs is simply a foramen in the roof of the skull in ostracoderms, some placoderms, crossopterygians, primitive amphibians, and some of the early reptiles, including Therapsids. It usually lies between the parietal bones. The parietal eye of the Sphenodon is well covered, and no function has been demonstrated, but it contains a retina and a lens; the neurosensory retinal cells synapse with neurons, which go directly down the stalk. In birds, the pineal stalk is reduced but often distinct and with a complicated structure distally. Mammals have a minute epiphysis (pineal organ), which has been suspected to have an endocrine function (Eaton 1960).
In most fish, and amphibians, the pineal organ is a single sac. In the more primitive fish, tail-less amphibians and lizards, there is a second component, the parapineal organ or parietal organ, which arises as an anterior evagination of the pineal organ or as a separate outgrowth of the roof of diencephalon. In frogs, parapineal component lies just beneath the epidermis on the dorsum of the head, where it can be seen. Numerous nerves and nerve endings are found in the pineal organs of lower vertebrates. Pineal organs of lower vertebrates reveal presence of photoreceptor cells that resemble those of the mammalian retina in having a lamellar portion of the apex and a receptor synapse at the base. The most elaborate pineal is found in the primitive lizard, Sphenodon. It contains a simple retina, consisting of photoreceptors backed by supporting cells that contain pigment, and its parietal component includes a lens-like structure. It thus constitutes a vestigial parietal eye. Probably, the parietal eye of the Sphenodon was functional because of the large size of the pineal foramen in the fossil reptiles (Fawcett 1994).
Pineal gland contains cords and follicles of pinealocytes and neuroglial cells among which ramify blood vessels and nerves. Pinealocytes form the pineal parenchyma; neuroglial cells, partially separating the pinealocytes, are like astrocytes. Ultrastructure of human fetal pinealocytes indicates their secretory function in early intrauterine life (Moller 1974). As in adults, they contain all the appropriate organelles together with abundant microfilaments, microtubules, and a few cilia with a 9 + 0 microtubular pattern. Cilia of this type are associated with secretory cells in other endocrine glands (Barnes 1961; Andersen et al. 1970). Extending from the cell body are one or more processes (Knight et al 1973), which end in terminal buds near blood vessels or ependymal cells of the pineal recess. The terminal buds contain electron dense cored vesicles, which store monoamines and polypeptide hormones (Sheridan and Sladek 1975), release of which requires sympathetic innervation. The polypeptide hormones combine with specific protein carriers, termed neuro-epiphysins (Lukaszyk and Reiter 1975). They are released by exocytosis together with exocytotic debris. When released, the complex dissociates, hormones being exchanged for calcium ions. The calcium-carrier complex so formed is, in the pineal, deposited concentrically around exocytotic debris as corpora arenacea or brain sand. It is often supposed that the pineal gland atrophies with age, corpora arenacea being a sign of atrophy; on the contrary, these corpuscles may indicate continued secretion. There was no evidence of pineal degeneration in the elderly (Wildi and Frauchiger 1965).
The pinealocytes of mammals evolved from the photoreceptor cells of the pineal organ of primitive vertebrates. In the course of their evolution from light sensitive elements to endocrine cells, the region of the cell, specialised for photoreception was lost, together with the sensory nerves connecting it to other regions of the brain. The synaptic ribbons of mammalian pinealocytes may be vestiges of the special synapses that are characteristic of photoreceptors. Whether they have acquired an alternate function, related to secretion, is not known (Fawcett 1994). Pinealocytes of some mammals contain synaptic ribbons, perhaps involved in transmission; vesicles near them contain neurotransmitters such as - aminobutyric acid (Krstic 1976). Similar arrangements of organelles occur in mammalian retinal photoreceptors and simpler submammalian photoreceptors, suggesting that mammalian pinealocytes are derived from photoreceptors (Kappers 1976; Relkin 1976). Transient similarities exist between pinealocytes and retinal photoreceptors in neonatal rats (Zimmerman and Tsi 1975).
Melanin pigments are associated with light and are found in association with photoreceptors. This association, probably, exists with photoreceptor cells-derived pinealocytes also. It is possible that the pigments, corresponding to those (rodopsin) in photoreceptors and those in the supporting cells in Sphenodon pineal gland, are in the pinealocytes and stroma in the human pineal gland. Increase of melanin pigments is due to the action of pineal indole-melatonin. Melatonin suppresses the melanocyte-stimulating hormone and prevents dispersion of melanin granules. Therefore, the melanin pigments become concentrated in the pineal gland.
The sphenodon pineal has pigments in the supporting cells of the photoreceptors. Mammalian retina has pigment cell layer. Melanin pigments have been shown to be present in animal and human fetal pinealocytes. Correspondingly, the present study, light microscopically, has shown melanin pigments in the human adults. Melanin pigments gradually accumulate within the parenchymal cells with increasing age in males, whereas in females, the maximum pigmentation is noticed in 30-40 year age group and then there is a fall (Tapp and Huxley 1972). The present study shows that there is no gender difference in the amount of melanin pigments, that a gradual increase in melanin pigments, more concentrated extra cellularly, occurs and that melanin pigments are more clearly seen as age advances.
Acknowledgement:

The help of Dr. Valsamma Mathew, Department of Anatomy and Dr. Radha Krishnan, Department of Forensic Medicine of Kottayam Medical College, Kottayam is acknowledged.

TSA
06-11-2008, 02:34 AM
it is propaganda

i won't say black propaganda cause the only black ppl the buy this shit are Stylemaster, Poppa Wu, Sunnywinters and his secondaries.

it's a disgusting field of thought, to become what you hate in white supremacist culture, meaning your striving to be the lowest example of socialization your 'enemy' has to offer.

it all comes from self hate and self-esteem voids and will do nothing but cause it's suscribers to live in a world of hate and frustration that will eat their insides and lead them to believe the world outside of their illusion is forever hopeless.

a sad way to die.

TSA
06-11-2008, 02:37 AM
YAY! articles that I myself could have written and called scientific fact and nobody, including the poster will ever read!

why commity suicide when you have green font!?

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 03:03 AM
it is propaganda

i won't say black propaganda cause the only black ppl the buy this shit are Stylemaster, Poppa Wu, Sunnywinters and his secondaries.

it's a disgusting field of thought, to become what you hate in white supremacist culture, meaning your striving to be the lowest example of socialization your 'enemy' has to offer.

it all comes from self hate and self-esteem voids and will do nothing but cause it's suscribers to live in a world of hate and frustration that will eat their insides and lead them to believe the world outside of their illusion is forever hopeless.

a sad way to die.


YAY! articles that I myself could have written and called scientific fact and nobody, including the poster will ever read!

why commity suicide when you have green font!?

Because I dont look/act like Gary Coleman wanting to hang with Willis and the big older dogs.

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Longbongcilvaringz
06-11-2008, 04:01 AM
it is propaganda

i won't say black propaganda cause the only black ppl the buy this shit are Stylemaster, Poppa Wu, Sunnywinters and his secondaries.

it's a disgusting field of thought, to become what you hate in white supremacist culture, meaning your striving to be the lowest example of socialization your 'enemy' has to offer.

it all comes from self hate and self-esteem voids and will do nothing but cause it's suscribers to live in a world of hate and frustration that will eat their insides and lead them to believe the world outside of their illusion is forever hopeless.

a sad way to die.

additionally the amalgamation of science, psychology, history, politics, sociology etc. which is somehow fluently integrated into conversation, is ridiculous.

some of the above might be linked, maybe all of the above.

but the extent to which people here state a scientific "fact" and from there go on to explain the entirety of history and then go on to explain current societal and political ills, is illogical and bizarre.

Regards,

Robert
06-11-2008, 04:13 AM
You can find "research" to support any argument, from conspiracy theories to this.

When I look at a piece of information I want to know if it's been peered reviewed, and adheres to a strict set of scientific guidelines for experimentation, otherwise I'm not buying it. This way, subjectivity and bias in data are eliminated a best as is possible.

There is a lot of misinformation on the internet from so-called scientific sources that haven't been exposed to this type of scrutiny. So unless I can see that the information presented is credible in the way I described I won't be paying it much attention. In fact, whenever I want to get up to date on a particular issue I always go through the university I attend to find published work (ie peer reviewed etc) on the topic.

Robert
06-11-2008, 04:20 AM
Furthermore, a great number of KTL posters stay losing because they are unable to comprehend whether a source is credible or not beyond their radical opinion. It is great to look at all points of view on a topic, I am not disputing that. However, when someone strongly and often rudely argues their case, citing unproven "scientific" data combined with conspiracies about the government etc I don't see how it can be taken seriously.

Longbongcilvaringz
06-11-2008, 04:32 AM
For me, it isnt even that.

Ive taken the time (and it wasnt even wasted time, because some of these sources provide credible information) to read most of the 'research' posted.

Unfortunately, from this 'research' wild conclusions are drawn which do not logically follow the information presented in sources.

They idea of sourcing material is to back up an argument which you are making, as oppose to outlining 'facts' and then going off on a tangent about what you 'think' is scientifically correct.

All the actual 'research' which stylemasterr posted is acceptable i feel.

However, he used this in order to lay the foundation for his subsequent argument, instead of provided supporting evidence.

This is a common trend with his posts i find.

He will outlay 'facts' which seem acceptable, and then launch into a flawed, quasi scientific philosophical argument, which minimally references the original source.

And this isnt even the norm in KTL.

Style is going far beyond the general standard of 'proof' here.

Normally people write paragraphs of opinion and post at the end "if you dont believe me, look here *insert several webpages*.

Whats more, why havent you called me rahbart?

what is the plan?

im at uni...

when are you leaving?

should i get home some time soon?

fanx.

Robert
06-11-2008, 04:37 AM
Soon my friend. I understand what you mean. It's all about taking information out of context. This often happens when people don't understand the scientific terms. None of that information presented proves Style's point.

and VAD3R, I have no qualms with you but you did exactly what am talking about in a previous post, the one where you mentioned fluoride.

Longbongcilvaringz
06-11-2008, 04:45 AM
enswur duh phfohn plase.

calcified flouride inhibited testicular glands.

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 05:05 AM
So you dont believe there is an elite agenda to kill off some 80% of the planet so be it...

but I presented some facts on how this directly affects the pineal gland.

If you dont want to acknowledge the possibility that some insecure powerful men do feel threatened to lose out a lot with things like a black president that might do something about Reparations or actually do meaningful things for people of color...thats on you.

Aids - fluoride - syphilis - what else man? What the fuck else is fucking us up that is man-made death?

begongo
06-11-2008, 07:05 AM
just stopping by to check what's new and damn ... this thread is good

see ya in a month!

STYLE
06-11-2008, 09:10 AM
Stylemaster in inhumanely dim.

what the fuck is sino-american economic system?

cheap toys?

you said every nation can't follow the american system of "stepping on other ppls toes" to get what they want.

i said, every nation steps on peoples toes to get that why want

you said china didn't, it's isolationist

i said china did, as the country China, is han china, or essential the Chin section of han china, taking over everyone around it.

since korea, mongolia, vietnam, tibet and various other locations have a history of chinese imperialism, i really don't see how difficult it is to sink the one in.

those ppl you mentioned, are, indeed, chinese, not because they're ethnically chinese, but cause they're members of a chinese nation build on the kingdom of Chin, taking over it's neighbors and making them chinese, which would equalify as being a toe stepper on'er

the system of dicking your way to the top is not an american invention, and you, again, can't find a country that didn't dick its way to the top.

again, not difficult to sink in, i'd find examples if i were you because the next conversation in line after this one is how toothpaste n microwaves are killing the black community's melanin(soul).

nobody cares about what you have to say.



you still lose faggot.

STYLE
06-11-2008, 09:22 AM
fuck yall. you ain't black so you will never "get it".

why does it even matter to any of yall?
i mean really yall aussies don'/t even know any black people. why do you care?

TSA included you uncle tom oreo cracker worshipping onion armpit african reject. stay suckin those redneck dicks. stay indoors and get you vitamin D that way you fuckin loser.


pat idk what to tell you man. i started my style career talkin this same shit.
see whites and savagery vol 1 & 2 , my 1st threads.

and said "if a white person can accept the fact that i feel this way we can be the best of friends"

i have had brotherly friendship with white guys but will tell them in a min that crackers a fucked up and i have to know them in order to trust them.

i thought that's where we were. a mutual understanding that style thought whites were biologically inferior to people of color, but have the same capacity for greatness as anyone else.



no?

ain't that a kick in the nuts


i feel like befriending a white person is like having a pet cobra. if it bites you, you can't be mad at anyone but yourself.



ouch


fuck it.

Robert
06-11-2008, 09:30 AM
why does it even matter to any of yall?
i mean really yall aussies don't even know any black people. why do you care?

Hahahahaha! We may be descendants of convicts (not me personally) but there are still black people over here, not including Australian indigenous people.

and said "if a white person can accept the fact that i feel this way we can be the best of friends"

What's wrong with healthy debate on the subject? I don't have to agree with you to come to an understanding of your viewpoint.

Are you saying that this is your belief or that it is actual fact? I'm unsure.

TSA
06-11-2008, 10:37 AM
it's a subject of maturity.

that's what's wrong.

you and pat said you read those articles.

i don't, they're fuckin stupid can come from places like TheBlackNubianAlliance, which is the last place i would send my kids to actually learn something

therefore, KTL posters get frustrated when the argue with me because i present actual facts that we both actually know. nothing elaborate and nothing far fetched but by making it clear that im not gonna read pathetic articles written by people that are internally hurt asserting their false superiority as a means to redeem a shattered and empty sense of self worth it kills them inside more cause ALL THEY CAN DO is post these articles.

it's pathetic.

really, really, really pathetic.

between that, stylemasters current state of anger, and sunny winters secondaries is easy to see why KTL is pure garbage.

all i do is come on here, present truths that all posters know and they have a hard time arguing it so they start talking about how africans smell while trying to assert black people are a super natural race of superior people, which they're not, they're poor.


so as i was saying. China engages in the world system, the only evidence presented against me is the fact that China has a lot of ethnicities but they're overwhelmed by the han chinese population.

those ethnicities were conquered by the han chinese and are under their domain till this day.
china also has a history of imperial dominance over vietnam, korea, tibet, various Gobi desert or people of western china, and mongolia, which till this day the majority of mongol land and people are artificially place behind chinese boarders.

you mad?

TSA
06-11-2008, 10:41 AM
fuck yall. you ain't black so you will never "get it".

why does it even matter to any of yall?
i mean really yall aussies don'/t even know any black people. why do you care?

TSA included you uncle tom oreo cracker worshipping onion armpit african reject. stay suckin those redneck dicks. stay indoors and get you vitamin D that way you fuckin loser.


pat idk what to tell you man. i started my style career talkin this same shit.
see whites and savagery vol 1 & 2 , my 1st threads.

and said "if a white person can accept the fact that i feel this way we can be the best of friends"

i have had brotherly friendship with white guys but will tell them in a min that crackers a fucked up and i have to know them in order to trust them.

i thought that's where we were. a mutual understanding that style thought whites were biologically inferior to people of color, but have the same capacity for greatness as anyone else.



no?

ain't that a kick in the nuts


i feel like befriending a white person is like having a pet cobra. if it bites you, you can't be mad at anyone but yourself.



ouch


fuck it.



You're unhappy. you're an unhappy person and im the key to you dying with an eased mind.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 10:59 AM
Peace.

This is to those who are in the know. You know who I'm talking to.

Pay very close attention to whats going on here. We have original people, black people, people of color, non-whites who are showing serious signs of being sick.

Because the devil taught him how to eat the wrong foods.

He likes the devil because the devil gives him nothing.

The statement above is very important....those who know it and understand know why.

Look how he big ups white people but continues to put down original (black) people. He want to be a part of the devil's social equality but the devil will never let that happen.

He's being used as a tool and also a slave.

What does a person when they don't love themselves? The destroy self and everything that reminds them of self!

Why did Musa have a hard time civilizing the devil......?

The 85% believe in the 10% on face value.

Anything black, he's against. Anything white, he's for.

It's not about truth. It's not about freedom, justice, or equality. It's about him being other than his own self.

He's going under the study from 35-50 years to try and learn and do like the colored man hoping that he'll be able to take the heads of 4 gods wanting free transportation to the vatican to see his unrighteous brother.

TSA
06-11-2008, 11:06 AM
what are these wrong foods and why do africans proudly eat them?
pork?

the national food of Cameroon

i would also like to add that the devil gave me 10 dollar last week and traded me my skateboard for civilizations III
i played Civ III until early this year when i uninstalled it to free up computer space and the trade was made in 2000.

the devil also game me Wu Chronicles II and The Pretty Toney album

Robert
06-11-2008, 11:15 AM
Peace.

This is to those who are in the know. You know who I'm talking to.

Pay very close attention to whats going on here. We have original people, black people, people of color, non-whites who are showing serious signs of being sick.

Because the devil taught him how to eat the wrong foods.

He likes the devil because the devil gives him nothing.

The statement above is very important....those who know it and understand know why.

Look how he big ups white people but continues to put down original (black) people. He want to be a part of the devil's social equality but the devil will never let that happen.

He's being used as a tool and also a slave.

What does a person when they don't love themselves? The destroy self and everything that reminds them of self!

Why did Musa have a hard time civilizing the devil......?

The 85% believe in the 10% on face value.

Anything black, he's against. Anything white, he's for.

It's not about truth. It's not about freedom, justice, or equality. It's about him being other than his own self.

He's going under the study from 35-50 years to try and learn and do like the colored man hoping that he'll be able to take the heads of 4 gods wanting free transportation to the vatican to see his unrighteous brother.

Doesn't the devil wear Prada?

If the devil ate swine and vomited in the waters of the Nile then 85% of the original man would be infected.

Of the remaining 15%, 10% would avoid infection and die from dehydration. The other 5% would transcend food and water and become master to self, swine and slave.

Supreme Math.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 11:40 AM
what are these wrong foods and why do africans proudly eat them?
pork?

the national food of Cameroon

i would also like to add that the devil gave me 10 dollar last week and traded me my skateboard for civilizations III
i played Civ III until early this year when i uninstalled it to free up computer space and the trade was made in 2000.

the devil also game me Wu Chronicles II and The Pretty Toney album

:list: Add another patient to the doctor's list. Get the nurse to check his vital signs.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 11:41 AM
Doesn't the devil wear Prada?

If the devil ate swine and vomited in the waters of the Nile then 85% of the original man would be infected.

Of the remaining 15%, 10% would avoid infection and die from dehydration. The other 5% would transcend food and water and become master to self, swine and slave.

Supreme Math.

WHY DID WE RUN YACUB AND HIS MADE DEVIL FROM THE ROOT OF CIVILIZATION?

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 11:56 AM
Is there a way to tell Black Man cases that their thinking is bullshit from roots?

For real.


Y'all 5%'s are so much into science - well, PROVE ME THAT YACUB EXISTED AND CREATED US DEVILS TO TORTURE BLACK FOLKS. Prove me.


Prove me rationally or empirically ANYTHING you said in the post #106 about devils fucking up blacks. About poisoning with wrong food and shit.


Prove.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 12:07 PM
Is there a way to tell Black Man cases that their thinking is bullshit from roots?

For real.

Y'all 5%'s are so much into science - well, PROVE ME THAT YACUB EXISTED AND CREATED US DEVILS TO TORTURE BLACK FOLKS. Prove me.


Prove me rationally or empirically ANYTHING you said in the post #106 about devils fucking up blacks. About poisoning with wrong food and shit.


Prove.

DO YOU KNOW WHO THE ORIGINAL MAN IS?

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 12:12 PM
^^^ it would be better to prove the theory if you can instead of avoiding it or sayin people aren't ready, etc. it only makes people REALLY think its bullshit if you refuse to give any proof. im sure u annoyed with people askin you so just give an answer

Black Man
06-11-2008, 12:21 PM
^^^ it would be better to prove the theory if you can instead of avoiding it or sayin people aren't ready, etc. it only makes people REALLY think its bullshit if you refuse to give any proof. im sure u annoyed with people askin you so just give an answer

BEFORE YOU CAN ADD AND SUBTRACT, DON'T YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO COUNT FIRST? IN ORDER TO COUNT IN THE RIGHT ORDER, DON'T YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE?

I SEE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO KEEP THINGS IN ORDER. THAT'S WHY THEY WON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY KEEP SAYING 2 COMES BEFORE 1.

YOU CAN'T PROVE SOMETHING TO A PERSON THAT DON'T KNOW NOTHING, AND ISN'T WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO ACTUALLY FIND OUT.

YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE OF YACUB WITHOUT HAVING A SOUND UNDERSTANDING OF WHO THE ORIGINAL MAN IS.

WHEN DID I SAY PEOPLE WEREN'T READY? OK, I'LL SAY IT NOW.....YOU'RE NOT READY!

I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF ME. I KNOW WHO I AM.

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 12:25 PM
You boys and girls don't know who the Original Asiatic Black Man is?

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 12:25 PM
BEFORE YOU CAN ADD AND SUBTRACT, DON'T YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO COUNT FIRST? IN ORDER TO COUNT IN THE RIGHT ORDER, DON'T YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE?

I SEE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO KEEP THINGS IN ORDER. THAT'S WHY THEY WON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY KEEP SAYING 2 COMES BEFORE 1.

YOU CAN'T PROVE SOMETHING TO A PERSON THAT DON'T KNOW NOTHING, AND ISN'T WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO ACTUALLY FIND OUT.

YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE OF YACUB WITHOUT HAVING A SOUND UNDERSTANDING OF WHO THE ORIGINAL MAN IS.

WHEN DID I SAY PEOPLE WEREN'T READY? OK, I'LL SAY IT NOW.....YOU'RE NOT READY!

I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF ME. I KNOW WHO I AM.

LOL

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 12:26 PM
DO YOU KNOW WHO THE ORIGINAL MAN IS?

Yup. The Black Man, the black Adam and Eve, from which all the mankind spread out. Am I correct?



BEFORE YOU CAN ADD AND SUBTRACT, DON'T YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO COUNT FIRST? IN ORDER TO COUNT IN THE RIGHT ORDER, DON'T YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE?

I SEE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO KEEP THINGS IN ORDER. THAT'S WHY THEY WON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY KEEP SAYING 2 COMES BEFORE 1.

YOU CAN'T PROVE SOMETHING TO A PERSON THAT DON'T KNOW NOTHING, AND ISN'T WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO ACTUALLY FIND OUT.

YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE OF YACUB WITHOUT HAVING A SOUND UNDERSTANDING OF WHO THE ORIGINAL MAN IS.

WHEN DID I SAY PEOPLE WEREN'T READY? OK, I'LL SAY IT NOW.....YOU'RE NOT READY!

I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF ME. I KNOW WHO I AM.

Excellent. It's just a long version of a sentence: "You are stupid and I am smart".

Ah, yeah, this too: "And I won't help YOU to become smart, for it'd diminish my superiority complex".

Is this what Honorable Allah and First Borns wanted from you? To keep your knowledge for yourself instead of spreading it?

Or is it because I'm just the usual devil that wants to keep YOU down? I don't even know you, motherfucker!

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 12:28 PM
when you avoid questions it usually means you don't have an answer

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 12:29 PM
when you avoid questions it usually means you don't have an answer

That's why I can't stand those self-righteous religion prophets.

A real scientist isn't ashamed of saying four simple words: "I do not know."

Black Man
06-11-2008, 01:50 PM
Yup. The Black Man, the black Adam and Eve, from which all the mankind spread out. Am I correct?

NO, YOU'RE NOT CORRECT, YOU'RE WRONG.



YOU'RE WRONG.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 01:53 PM
People Want Lesson 88 But Don't Know Shit About Lesson 1. Nope, You Won't Understand Because You Don't Know The Basics.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 02:32 PM
Make a thread and teach, motherfucker. You got all the internet on your hands.

But be prepared that your disciples will put on some thought-provoking questions too.



'Cause, as for now, I don't see nothing but a motherfucker claiming that he got knowledge, but hiding it as a snake hides its legs.

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 02:49 PM
alright alright enough already


Black Man Wrote - BEFORE YOU CAN ADD AND SUBTRACT, DON'T YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO COUNT FIRST?


instead of asking him what do you need to know in order to get to that level of understanding, yall threw stones - this is a big indication that "Yall are not ready"

There is a certain humbleness and mind state needed before one can even begin to understand these things - one major block yall have is fear - fear that whats being told to you just may be true -


people have the need to feel good about themselves and to show others that they are cool - so they tell stories about how they hurt and mamed people, been to jail, sold crack, because in this society you are the man if you have been through these things - so many go through these things in order to be the man -


yall are not mature enough to really understand whats going on - we are attempting to build to this great understanding - some have move up, some have not, and some will never -

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 02:52 PM
You boys and girls don't know who the Original Asiatic Black Man is?


Of course. Tiger Woods

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 02:56 PM
when you avoid questions it usually means you don't have an answer

thats the case with some people -

in the home, a parent might ask a child to do something/carry out a task - the child may ask "WHY" ?
and the parent might respond, "Because i said so"

on the battle field a commander might ask a sergeant, go up, make a left and move forward - if the sergeant takes out time and asks the commander,"Why should i follow these directions", the commander, the sergeant and the whole regime can lose their lives and homeland

if you are seeking information from someone, humble yourself - if you show no respect to someone who may have important information to share with you, when he/she speaks, the message will be distorted and the information can turn into poison - so whats said has to be carefully administered at the proper times to the proper people -

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 02:56 PM
There is a certain humbleness and mind state needed before one can even begin to understand these things - one major block yall have is fear - fear that whats being told to you just may be true -




I ain't got no fear about whats being told to me.

im tryin to tell ya homeboy to quit avoidin questions by comin up with little sayings and whatnot. tell people what they want to know, if you got so much knowledge about it, why not teach it?

thats with anything, not just yacub

Black Man
06-11-2008, 02:58 PM
Make a thread and teach, motherfucker.

THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T GET ANSWERS. YOU WANT ANSWERS FROM SOMEBODY (ME), AND THEN CALL THEM (ME) A MOTHERFUCKER. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH THE DUMB SHIT. EVERYBODY WHO ASKS ME QUESTIONS WHO ARE BEING SINCERE AND RESPECTFUL, THEY GET ANSWERS OR THEY GET DIRECTED TO THE ANSWER FOR THEIR QUESTION.

YOU'RE NOT READY TO LEARN.

You got all the internet on your hands.

But be prepared that your disciples will put on some thought-provoking questions too.

ALL OF MY DISCIPLES KNOW HOW TO BE STUDENTS. THAT'S A SCIENCE WITHIN ITS OWN SELF AND YOU ARE NOT READY TO LEARN WHAT I HAVE. YOUR MIND AIN'T RIGHT, AND YOUR HEART AIN'T RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED.

QUALIFY YOURSELF FIRST.

'Cause, as for now, I don't see nothing but a motherfucker claiming that he got knowledge, but hiding it as a snake hides its legs.

THAT'S NICE.

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 02:59 PM
I ain't got no fear about whats being told to me.

im tryin to tell ya homeboy to quit avoidin questions by comin up with little sayings and whatnot. tell people what they want to know, if you got so much knowledge about it, why not teach it?

thats with anything, not just yacub


relax and reread the last 5 post when you get a chance

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 03:01 PM
if you are seeking information from someone, humble yourself - if you show no respect someone who may have important information to share with you, when he/she speaks, the message will be distorted and the information can turn into poison - so whats said has to be carefully administered at the proper times to the proper people -

well lets talk about it then. im all ears. lets have a discussion about the yacub theory to end all this shit ive been seein in these forums the little time ive been here. this seems to be one of the most talked about subjects on here, especially because of people from many different races and religions on here. you should wanna clear the confusion up, regardless of whos "ready" and whos not

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 03:01 PM
QUALIFY YOURSELF FIRST.

lmao - they just don't get it

Black Man
06-11-2008, 03:02 PM
alright alright enough already


Black Man Wrote - BEFORE YOU CAN ADD AND SUBTRACT, DON'T YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO COUNT FIRST?


instead of asking him what do you need to know in order to get to that level of understanding, yall threw stones - this is a big indication that "Yall are not ready"

There is a certain humbleness and mind state needed before one can even begin to understand these things - one major block yall have is fear - fear that whats being told to you just may be true -


people have the need to feel good about themselves and to show others that they are cool - so they tell stories about how they hurt and mamed people, been to jail, sold crack, because in this society you are the man if you have been through these things - so many go through these things in order to be the man -


yall are not mature enough to really understand whats going on - we are attempting to build to this great understanding - some have move up, some have not, and some will never -

THIS IS REAL PEACE.

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 03:03 PM
well lets talk about it then. im all ears. lets have a discussion about the yacub theory to end all this shit ive been seein in these forums the little time ive been here. this seems to be one of the most talked about subjects on here, especially because of people from many different races and religions on here. you should wanna clear the confusion up, regardless of whos "ready" and whos not


YO !

relax and reread the last 5 post when you get a chance - carefully - we'll get into the Yacub Thing soon enough

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 03:16 PM
Well Mic - me just like anybody else new to a higher learning curve needed a growth process and humbling myself didnt come easy.

I had to build to be b0rn on this glorious day star.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 03:21 PM
Excellent. Real excellent. So now it's about me, who caught feelings - yeah, I caught feelings, you'd too if you was in my place - when being branded as a "devil" who "keeps Original Man down", a "product of Yakub's failed experiment" etc. etc. etc., that's guilty for Black Man, V4DER and Sunny not posting their knowledge on the Internet.

"Humble and everything". It's INTERNET. Of course I wouldn't curse if I was talking with you in face, I'd be humble and listening and everything. But I ain't in front of you, I'm behind my keyboard. Here the rules of engagement are a bit different. But okay, I will be peaceful and respectful and all that junk.

I'd just want to see you being respectful and everything if I started with some white supremacist theories, about Black people being "half-apes" and everything, 'cause I hear that every day by people around me. Especially Sunny, he'd be first to start with low kicks.

Doesn't the fact that I find useful even wanting to hear some knowledge from you say something about me? It'd be easier to remain a racist and everything, but no, I thought with my own head and made some conclusions myself, conclusions that led to belief that no human being can be held as inferior to any other. And don't dismiss me as "he's only 18", age ain't nothing but a number.

Maybe I wouldn't be as angry if I saw that Yakub/devil/failed experiment shit as something with some empiric or rational ground. With some REAL facts in the bottom or philosophical stance or something like that. I could admire Descartes for proving that God is, because he showed with simple syllogism that it is so.

But it seems to me that the whole stuff is just another Catholic-styled dogma that can't be questioned. It is that way and period.

Covered by "it can't be discussed without knowing the basics" stance.



So bad I'm not ready to learn.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 03:23 PM
"Humbling" and "getting ready to learn".

When I came to college first time, the professors, the renown eminences in their fields, said to us: "You aren't here to sit and let us do the talking. ASK. If you think we're wrong, say us so. We can debate. That's why you're here, to question our stances."

That's the stance of someone not scared of questions.

They never said to us: "Shut up, kids, you don't know shit so you aren't allowed to say anything."

TSA
06-11-2008, 03:25 PM
how can you be new to a higher learning curve if it's in your blood?
the fact that you used 'a higher learning curve' as something aquired by reading blogs by anger black men with white wives is proof enough that your 'new' at it.

and what the fuck is God.Cipher.Divine supposed to mean anyways?

wouldn't it be God's. Divine. Cipher? was that rejected cause you couldn't find white man english acronyms to fit the G.O.D thing? God. Cipher. Divine doesn't make sense. it's like saying Joes. Ketchup. Delicious, wouldn't if be Joe's Delicious Ketchup.


and why is the arab mans word Allah, written in white man's latin letters using white man's english acronyms still accepted as the 'true name' of black ppl.

pathetic.
wouldn't it be in a blackman's language. not a yacub devil made one?

Aka. Uku. Uku. Aka. Eshe

that's Igbo for the true living god

Arm. Leg. Leg. Arm. Head is everycivilizationthatengagedinthetradeofblackslava nese for the same thing.


ya sniffs?

Black Man
06-11-2008, 03:30 PM
thats the case with some people -

in the home, a parent might ask a child to do something/carry out a task - the child may ask "WHY" ?
and the parent might respond, "Because i said so"

on the battle field a commander might ask a sergeant, go up, make a left and move forward - if the sergeant takes out time and asks the commander,"Why should i follow these directions", the commander, the sergeant and the whole regime can lose their lives and homeland

if you are seeking information from someone, humble yourself - if you show no respect to someone who may have important information to share with you, when he/she speaks, the message will be distorted and the information can turn into poison - so whats said has to be carefully administered at the proper times to the proper people -

The doctors law was to examine......

Black Man
06-11-2008, 03:39 PM
Well Mic - me just like anybody else new to a higher learning curve needed a growth process and humbling myself didnt come easy.

I had to build to be b0rn on this glorious day star.

Peace.

You're not the only one. I'm sure we all have war stories regarding how'd you say, higher learning.

Anything that is born will take time, work, and pain. Everybody isn't ready for the time it takes, the work that's needed, and all the pain that's involved.

The student needs to be a student and that's a learning process in its own self.

Peace.

STYLE
06-11-2008, 03:48 PM
does anyone here give a fuck about igbos?




.....just checkin






continue......

TSA
06-11-2008, 03:50 PM
i do.

you know it's really goofy to diss igbos and try to prove the black man's standing as a superior human being cause im more of a black man then you.

but yeah, i care about igbos

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Excellent. Real excellent. So now it's about me, who caught feelings - yeah, I caught feelings, you'd too if you was in my place - when being branded as a "devil" who "keeps Original Man down", a "product of Yakub's failed experiment" etc. etc. etc., that's guilty for Black Man, V4DER and Sunny not posting their knowledge on the Internet.

"Humble and everything". It's INTERNET. Of course I wouldn't curse if I was talking with you in face, I'd be humble and listening and everything. But I ain't in front of you, I'm behind my keyboard. Here the rules of engagement are a bit different. But okay, I will be peaceful and respectful and all that junk.

I'd just want to see you being respectful and everything if I started with some white supremacist theories, about Black people being "half-apes" and everything, 'cause I hear that every day by people around me. Especially Sunny, he'd be first to start with low kicks.

Doesn't the fact that I find useful even wanting to hear some knowledge from you say something about me? It'd be easier to remain a racist and everything, but no, I thought with my own head and made some conclusions myself, conclusions that led to belief that no human being can be held as inferior to any other. And don't dismiss me as "he's only 18", age ain't nothing but a number.

Maybe I wouldn't be as angry if I saw that Yakub/devil/failed experiment shit as something with some empiric or rational ground. With some REAL facts in the bottom or philosophical stance or something like that. I could admire Descartes for proving that God is, because he showed with simple syllogism that it is so.

But it seems to me that the whole stuff is just another Catholic-styled dogma that can't be questioned. It is that way and period.

Covered by "it can't be discussed without knowing the basics" stance.



So bad I'm not ready to learn.


with the children of satan ......its said that the truth causes them to show their teeth - plus - you can't tell us when you're ready - you can't be like "ahight i'll fucking shutup and listen,go on with the dam lessons" - it just doesn't work like that

- what is so hard for yall to accept that a man took a number of his people, brought them somewhere, enforced a culture, and genetically modified them to fit his program ?

yall are looking at the descriptions and yall are making this unimaginable image of Yacub

a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables - making white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island

Black Man
06-11-2008, 04:02 PM
Excellent. Real excellent. So now it's about me, who caught feelings - yeah, I caught feelings, you'd too if you was in my place - when being branded as a "devil" who "keeps Original Man down", a "product of Yakub's failed experiment" etc. etc. etc., that's guilty for Black Man, V4DER and Sunny not posting their knowledge on the Internet.

YOU'RE SPEAKING ON THINGS IN WHICH YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

EVERYTIME I SAY "DEVIL" OR TYPE A STATEMENT WITH THE WORD DEVIL DOES NOT MEAN I'M TALKING ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE.

AND AS FAR AS YOU CATCHING FEELINGS, DUDE I'M IN YOUR PLACE 24/7 365, FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. EXCEPT MY EXPERIENCE DOESN'T HAPPEN OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE WHAT'S SAID ON THE INTERNET DON'T MOVE ME.

"Humble and everything". It's INTERNET. Of course I wouldn't curse if I was talking with you in face, I'd be humble and listening and everything. But I ain't in front of you, I'm behind my keyboard. Here the rules of engagement are a bit different. But okay, I will be peaceful and respectful and all that junk.

YOUR RULES ARE NOT MY STANDARD. KEEP ENGAGING HOW YOU DO AND SEE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE.

I HAVE MY OWN RULE FOR ENGAGEMENT.

WHAT WAS YACUB'S FIRST RULE.....

I'd just want to see you being respectful and everything if I started with some white supremacist theories, about Black people being "half-apes" and everything, 'cause I hear that every day by people around me. Especially Sunny, he'd be first to start with low kicks.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT NO WHITE SUPREMACY LIKE THAT. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN A WHITE SUPREMIST SOCIETY ALL MY LIFE. WHAT THE HELL CAN WHITE SUPREMACY DO TO ME THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN DONE?

BLACK PEOPLE BEING "HALF-APES" WHITE PEOPLE BEEN SAYING THAT EVERY SINCE. THAT'S NOTHING NEW.

Doesn't the fact that I find useful even wanting to hear some knowledge from you say something about me?

IT SAYS SOMETHING, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT SAYS SOMETHING GOOD. KNOWLEDGE DOESN'T MAKE A PERSON GOOD OR BAD, IT SHOWS THEM THEIR OPTIONS OR CHOICES.

It'd be easier to remain a racist and everything, but no, I thought with my own head and made some conclusions myself, conclusions that led to belief that no human being can be held as inferior to any other. And don't dismiss me as "he's only 18", age ain't nothing but a number.

YOU'VE ALREADY SHOWN WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU BEING WHITE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE OR NOT. AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU SAY, I DON'T TAKE THINGS ON FACE VALUE.

A TWO YEAR WON'T COMPREHEND WHAT A TEN YEAR OLD CAN COMPREHEND. AGE MATTERS. IT'S DOESN'T ALWAYS DISQUALIFY A PERSON, IT MATTERS THOUGH.

Maybe I wouldn't be as angry if I saw that Yakub/devil/failed experiment shit as something with some empiric or rational ground. With some REAL facts in the bottom or philosophical stance or something like that. I could admire Descartes for proving that God is, because he showed with simple syllogism that it is so.

AND I'VE PROVED YACUB ALREADY, PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT IT.

MOST OF THE TIME WHEN A PERSON (HERE) SAYS PROVE IT, THEY MEAN, CONVINCE ME.

But it seems to me that the whole stuff is just another Catholic-styled dogma that can't be questioned. It is that way and period.

IT CAN BE QUESTIONED BY ANY AND EVERYONE. DOESN'T MEAN YOUR QUESTIONS WILL GET ANSWERED.

Covered by "it can't be discussed without knowing the basics" stance.

AGAIN, BEFORE YOU CAN ADD AND SUBTRACT YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO COUNT.

THERE'S AN ORDER.

So bad I'm not ready to learn.
.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 04:05 PM
with the children of satan ......its said that the truth causes them to show their teeth

It's a double-edged sword, 'cause, you know, white supremacists used the same argument for Blacks being devils. You know, black skin from hell and all that.

You getting mad at that is just another sign that y'all are hell dwellers, according to this logic.

- plus - you can't tell us when you're ready - you can't be like "ahight i'll fucking shutup and listen,go on with the dam lessons" - it just doesn't work like that
So you, like, know when I'm ready and I, like, don't? You can read minds?


- what is so hard for yall to accept that a man took a number of his people, brought them somewhere, enforced a culture, and genetically modified them to fit his program ?

'Cause y'all claim it's based on science - and I can't see NO GROUNDS for deduction to be started. I can't accept something like that, it's just an empty dogma without philosophical/scientific base,

yall are looking at the descriptions and yall are making this unimaginable image of Yacub

Sophism.


a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables - making white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island

PROVE it happened. Don't spare words, PROVE.

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 04:08 PM
"Humbling" and "getting ready to learn".

When I came to college first time, the professors, the renown eminences in their fields, said to us: "You aren't here to sit and let us do the talking. ASK. If you think we're wrong, say us so. We can debate. That's why you're here, to question our stances."

That's the stance of someone not scared of questions.

They never said to us: "Shut up, kids, you don't know shit so you aren't allowed to say anything."

First ! - in order for you to get to college you had to pass first grade - it took you a good 15 to 18 years to be able to even be considered ready to go to college - when you got all the basics down, then yes you can debate - you have to know what you are debating in order to join a debate - yalls surface knowledge of Yacub doesn't qualify you ready to be in a debate about yacub - you heard the surface info and dismissed it because it points to you - no one wants to wake up in the morning, go to the mirror and see a face full of pimples that they didn't see the day before - there is a pretty girl at school that you can't have see you like this - putting a mask over it doesn't fix the problem - eating right and washing your face is a start to end the problem -


The first thing yall need to do in order to begin to even be considered qualified is, STOP EATING SWINE !

i know it sounds small to you and it appears as no big deal - but you will not even begin to wanna understand if you are still dining on that swine

Black Man
06-11-2008, 04:09 PM
"Humbling" and "getting ready to learn".

When I came to college first time, the professors, the renown eminences in their fields, said to us: "You aren't here to sit and let us do the talking. ASK. If you think we're wrong, say us so. We can debate. That's why you're here, to question our stances."

BEFORE YOU WENT TO COLLEGE DIDN'T YOU HAVE TO GO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL FIRST? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A PERSON START SCHOOL IN COLLEGE. ALL OF THOSE SCHOOLS YOU GO TO BEFORE COLLEGE PREPARES YOU FOR COLLEGE, SO THAT THE PROFESSOR CAN SAY WHAT YOURS SAID TO YOU. IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE BASICS, YOU WOULDN'T BE IN HIS CLASS.

That's the stance of someone not scared of questions.

HE MAY NOT BE SCARED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED, HE ALSO KNOWS THAT EVERYBODY IN HIS CLASS HAS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING, OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T BE IN HIS CLASS.

They never said to us: "Shut up, kids, you don't know shit so you aren't allowed to say anything."

THERE'S A TIME WHEN YOU NEED TO SHUP AND LISTEN. WHEN IT'S TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS THEN YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS.

THIS ISN'T COLLEGE. COLLEGE ISN'T THE PRIMARY EDUCATION.

YOUR NOT ENROLLED AS A STUDENT IN MY SCHOOL LET ALONE ARE YOU QUALIFIED FOR THE HIGHER EDUCATION THAT COMES WITH LEARNING THIS KNOWLEDGE. YOU NEED THE BASICS FIRST, THEN YOU CAN GRADUATE TO THE HIGHER DEGREES.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 04:12 PM
with the children of satan ......its said that the truth causes them to show their teeth - plus - you can't tell us when you're ready - you can't be like "ahight i'll fucking shutup and listen,go on with the dam lessons" - it just doesn't work like that

- what is so hard for yall to accept that a man took a number of his people, brought them somewhere, enforced a culture, and genetically modified them to fit his program ?

yall are looking at the descriptions and yall are making this unimaginable image of Yacub

a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables - making white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island

LOL....SO TRUE SO TRUE.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 04:14 PM
First ! - in order for you to get to college you had to pass first grade - it took you a good 15 to 18 years to be able to even be considered ready to go to college - when you got all the basics down, then yes you can debate - you have to know what you are debating in order to join a debate - yalls surface knowledge of Yacub doesn't qualify you ready to be in a debate about yacub - you heard the surface info and dismissed it because it points to you - no one wants to wake up in the morning, go to the mirror and see a face full of pimples that they didn't see the day before - there is a pretty girl at school that you can't have see you like this - putting a mask over it doesn't fix the problem - eating right and washing your face is a start to end the problem -


The first thing yall need to do in order to begin to even be considered qualified is, STOP EATING SWINE !

i know it sounds small to you and it appears as no big deal - but you will not even begin to wanna understand if you are still dining on that swine

RIGHT AND EXACT.

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1202952#post1202952)
with the children of satan ......its said that the truth causes them to show their teeth

It's a double-edged sword, 'cause, you know, white supremacists used the same argument for Blacks being devils. You know, black skin from hell and all that.

You getting mad at that is just another sign that y'all are hell dwellers, according to this logic.i'm getting mad at what ?

white people saying that we are from hell, we are apes, we eat fried chicken and watermelon ?

i'm not mad - i think its cute when white supremacist say these things

Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1202952#post1202952)
- plus - you can't tell us when you're ready - you can't be like "ahight i'll fucking shutup and listen,go on with the dam lessons" - it just doesn't work like that

So you, like, know when I'm ready and I, like, don't? You can read minds?
i don't have to read your mind to know when you are ready -


Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1202952#post1202952)
- what is so hard for yall to accept that a man took a number of his people, brought them somewhere, enforced a culture, and genetically modified them to fit his program ?

'Cause y'all claim it's based on science - and I can't see NO GROUNDS for deduction to be started. I can't accept something like that, it's just an empty dogma without philosophical/scientific base,tell me exactly what it is that you cannot accept

Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1202952#post1202952)
yall are looking at the descriptions and yall are making this unimaginable image of Yacub

Sophism.
i'm in no way trying to deceive you

Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1202952#post1202952)
a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables - making white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island

PROVE it happened. Don't spare words, PROVE.prove what ?

that a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables - made white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island ?

there is nothing to prove because a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables didn't make white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island -

you are in college ?
you didn't understand what i wrote ?
did your anger cause you to overlook the obvious ?

TSA
06-11-2008, 04:19 PM
sunny winters is god cause he's cosigning the shit out of himself on secondary accounts

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 04:23 PM
sunny winters is god cause he's cosigning the shit out of himself on secondary accounts

you have nothing valuable to offer here in this discussion - Leave

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 04:24 PM
YOU'RE SPEAKING ON THINGS IN WHICH YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

EVERYTIME I SAY "DEVIL" OR TYPE A STATEMENT WITH THE WORD DEVIL DOES NOT MEAN I'M TALKING ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE.

Okay, I don't understand. So who are you talking about when typing a statement with the word devil?

AND AS FAR AS YOU CATCHING FEELINGS, DUDE I'M IN YOUR PLACE 24/7 365, FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. EXCEPT MY EXPERIENCE DOESN'T HAPPEN OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE WHAT'S SAID ON THE INTERNET DON'T MOVE ME.

I don't have much contact with those that have something against my race, 'cause the few Blacks I know in person aren't like that. So it's natural that I catch feelings for that reason over the internet. Excellent thing to talk with someone without sitting in front of 'em.



YOUR RULES ARE NOT MY STANDARD. KEEP ENGAGING HOW YOU DO AND SEE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE.

I HAVE MY OWN RULE FOR ENGAGEMENT.

WHAT WAS YACUB'S FIRST RULE.....

What was it, and more important, where do you know what was it from?



I DON'T CARE ABOUT NO WHITE SUPREMACY LIKE THAT. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN A WHITE SUPREMIST SOCIETY ALL MY LIFE. WHAT THE HELL CAN WHITE SUPREMACY DO TO ME THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN DONE?

BLACK PEOPLE BEING "HALF-APES" WHITE PEOPLE BEEN SAYING THAT EVERY SINCE. THAT'S NOTHING NEW.

I have no response to that. Props for becoming hard, that's all I can say.



IT SAYS SOMETHING, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT SAYS SOMETHING GOOD. KNOWLEDGE DOESN'T MAKE A PERSON GOOD OR BAD, IT SHOWS THEM THEIR OPTIONS OR CHOICES.

So, that'd say, me white wanting to hear some knowledge from a Black man isn't necessary something good? Is that, like, a self-criticism?



YOU'VE ALREADY SHOWN WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU BEING WHITE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE OR NOT. AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU SAY, I DON'T TAKE THINGS ON FACE VALUE.

Who and what I am? A person that dares to think with its own head? And yeah, I'm white, of Slavic descent.




A TWO YEAR WON'T COMPREHEND WHAT A TEN YEAR OLD CAN COMPREHEND. AGE MATTERS. IT'S DOESN'T ALWAYS DISQUALIFY A PERSON, IT MATTERS THOUGH.


You know, a fresh mind can come with some deeper and sharper thoughts than an elder mind, even if it doesn't have as much knowledge.




AND I'VE PROVED YACUB ALREADY, PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT IT.

..... Yeah? Link? Repeating the lesson for those that unfortunately missed it? Or is it the elementary-school system - you had your chance but you blew it, now you must stay a street sweeper?


MOST OF THE TIME WHEN A PERSON (HERE) SAYS PROVE IT, THEY MEAN, CONVINCE ME.

I'm saying: Prove. Philosophically. Deductively. From empiric/philosophical grounds up. Being careful that every step can stand some heavier questioning.

To convince someone is easy. Propaganda is all you need. To prove is harder.


IT CAN BE QUESTIONED BY ANY AND EVERYONE. DOESN'T MEAN YOUR QUESTIONS WILL GET ANSWERED.

Oh, great. So it means: you can ask and I won't respond. Is that it?


AGAIN, BEFORE YOU CAN ADD AND SUBTRACT YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO COUNT.

THERE'S AN ORDER.

Trust, I know how to count. I know what biology, geology and genetics said about birth of a man. And I didn't blindly follow the books, I did my own thinking too. I'm not sure I know the answer, 'cause I wasn't there. What I'm sure about is that I know how to count.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 04:29 PM
First ! - in order for you to get to college you had to pass first grade - it took you a good 15 to 18 years to be able to even be considered ready to go to college - when you got all the basics down, then yes you can debate - you have to know what you are debating in order to join a debate - yalls surface knowledge of Yacub doesn't qualify you ready to be in a debate about yacub - you heard the surface info and dismissed it because it points to you

I didn't dismiss nothing - I challenged you: PROVE IT, PROVE IT, how much times I must repeat? I'm here, willing, WILLING to take a lesson with an open mind, but also with knowledge I got over all these years, and which is bigger than usual knowledge of an 18-year-old 'cause I'm reading mad books since age of three. And yet I'm dismissed as "not ready to learn".


- no one wants to wake up in the morning, go to the mirror and see a face full of pimples that they didn't see the day before - there is a pretty girl at school that you can't have see you like this - putting a mask over it doesn't fix the problem - eating right and washing your face is a start to end the problem -


The first thing yall need to do in order to begin to even be considered qualified is, STOP EATING SWINE !

i know it sounds small to you and it appears as no big deal - but you will not even begin to wanna understand if you are still dining on that swine

I don't eat swine. Everyone thinks I'm vegetarian because of that, but I never touch the New Year pork and I don't eat no salamis and shit, so I'm considered a weirdo. You'll have to trust me here.

And I do wash my face. Even my hands, teeth and pubic hair. Next step?

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 04:30 PM
THERE'S A TIME WHEN YOU NEED TO SHUP AND LISTEN. WHEN IT'S TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS THEN YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS.

THIS ISN'T COLLEGE. COLLEGE ISN'T THE PRIMARY EDUCATION.

YOUR NOT ENROLLED AS A STUDENT IN MY SCHOOL LET ALONE ARE YOU QUALIFIED FOR THE HIGHER EDUCATION THAT COMES WITH LEARNING THIS KNOWLEDGE. YOU NEED THE BASICS FIRST, THEN YOU CAN GRADUATE TO THE HIGHER DEGREES.

Well, give me basics. I'ma PM you my e-mail if you think this isn't a right place or something. Shit, if I had money, I'd travel to you to hear the basics of the knowledge.

I know I don't know shit. So school me, man.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 04:39 PM
i'm getting mad at what ?

white people saying that we are from hell, we are apes, we eat fried chicken and watermelon ?

i'm not mad - i think its cute when white supremacist say these things

I don't know, man. I know that a Black man, who ain't a devil by definition, said: "But I hate the devil with passion." It's track #14 on Death Certificate, if my memory doesn't deceive me.

So in eyes of a white supremacist it's a definite proof of his devilness, according to your own logic.


i don't have to read your mind to know when you are ready -

So what's your method?




tell me exactly what it is that you cannot accept

I can't accept a statement like that. I can't accept the existence of such experiment without a proof that it happened.

And it's because y'all said your thought system is based on science; if it was a dogma, I'd dismiss it easily, like I dismissed the dogma on papal impeccability.



i'm in no way trying to deceive you

Do you even know the exact definition of sophism? For real?




prove what ?

that a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables - made white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island ?

there is nothing to prove because a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables didn't make white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island -

you are in college ?
you didn't understand what i wrote ?
did your anger cause you to overlook the obvious ?

Okay, what you said is:

" yall are looking at the descriptions and yall are making this unimaginable image of Yacub, a big head scientist in a lab with Bunsen burners, needles, and lab tables - making white men and women in a petri disk on some far away island "

Correct?

You said that such image of Yacub is unimaginable?

Then what was this experiment? What is so hard for me to accept? That he scientifically created white people?

Yeah, it is hard for me to accept without PROOF.


PROOF.


The ages-old obsession of science. Which you claim you do.

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 04:41 PM
'Cause, as for now, I don't see nothing but a motherfucker claiming that he got knowledge, but hiding it as a snake hides its legs.


snakes don't have legs to hide

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 04:52 PM
snakes don't have legs to hide

It's just a folklore metaphor from my country translated to English.

"Krije neto kao zmija noge"
"Hides something like snake its legs"

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 04:57 PM
And it's because y'all said your thought system is based on science; if it was a dogma, I'd dismiss it easily, like I dismissed the dogma on papal impeccability.


i never said anything about my thought system being based on science - that is a misunderstanding on your part - and a further indication to me that you are just not ready for this





Do you even know the exact definition of sophism? For real?


probably not - tell me what you understand it to be,i'll read it and see if it goes with what i think it really means, then i'll look it up to confirm it - and some learning will get accomplished today








You said that such image of Yacub is unimaginable?

Then what was this experiment? What is so hard for me to accept?


thats what i been asking you - what is it that you are fighting ?

do you even know ?






That he scientifically created white people?

Yeah, it is hard for me to accept without PROOF.


PROOF.


The ages-old obsession of science. Which you claim you do.

i don't claim to "do Science"

where are you getting this from ?

see -....this is why you are not ready - you are adding what you want to add to my character in order for you to feel better about not accepting something that you never looked into - how can you dismiss something you don't know - plus your reading comprehension is lacking - you say you are or been to college ?

some people are let into places they don't belong - this is a major reason why society is so dam messed up - there is also a language barrier

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 05:14 PM
I understand English almost perfectly, after all those books I read in it and shit.

The point is that here is midnight, I'm tired as fuck and making reading errors.

That's also why I'm not responding to your post now. Good night, see ya tomorrow.



Some people are let into places they don't belong... Amazing bullshit. Again, according to that logic - go the fuck back to Africa.

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 05:23 PM
Some people are let into places they don't belong... Amazing bullshit. Again, according to that logic - go the fuck back to Africa.

whoa. slow ya roll homeboy. this is our fuckin country WAY more than white people's and this isn't even the white man's land to begin with. they, more than anyone, should go back to where they came from

Black Man
06-11-2008, 05:23 PM
I understand English almost perfectly, after all those books I read in it and shit.

The point is that here is midnight, I'm tired as fuck and making reading errors.

That's also why I'm not responding to your post now. Good night, see ya tomorrow.



Some people are let into places they don't belong... Amazing bullshit. Again, according to that logic - go the fuck back to Africa.

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Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 05:29 PM
whoa. slow ya roll homeboy. this is our fuckin country WAY more than white people's and this isn't even the white man's land to begin with. they, more than anyone, should go back to where they came from

It doesn't belong to Blacks neither, it belongs to Indians. Black people were brought here, to the land that white people stole and never allowed to anyone else to claim. Sorta like what happened to Kosovo now.

But that's not my point.

I only wanted to show that Sunny's points are doubgle-edged swords.

Fuck it, I really need a sleep, I can't make coherent thoughts now.

Olive Oil Goombah
06-11-2008, 06:04 PM
it belongs to whoever the fucks it is....dont gimme this..'oh it was the Indians'....

Fuck that.....

England wasn't always English, Turkey wasnt always Turkish, France wasn't always French...

It goes on and on and on...

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 06:05 PM
it belongs to the indians

diggy
06-11-2008, 06:17 PM
Slim T revealed himself in this thread. Fuckin racist!

Marlo Stanfield
06-11-2008, 06:25 PM
this shit is absolutely rediculous

STYLE
06-11-2008, 06:38 PM
why is this in styleworld and not in sunnyworld?


yakub is a metaphor. just like adam and eve.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 06:39 PM
the planet earth belongs to the original man.

Black Man
06-11-2008, 06:40 PM
why is this in styleworld and not in sunnyworld?


yakub is a metaphor. just like adam and eve.

no, yacub is not a metaphor.

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 06:45 PM
no, yacub is not a metaphor.

so u basically saying that an NOI minister doesn't have a clue about what hes talking about

Black Man
06-11-2008, 06:56 PM
so u basically saying that an NOI minister doesn't have a clue about what hes talking about

IS THAT WHAT I SAID, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY?

IF IT'S NOT CLEAR, GO BACK AND RE-READ WHAT I TYPED.

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 07:12 PM
so u basically saying that an NOI minister doesn't have a clue about what hes talking about


the person that wrote that article is said to have been a minister in the NOI -
use to bees don't make no honey
you would have to know how the NOI works in order to understand why i dismissed the article - not speaking for no one else -
there are allot of Ex-ministers who leave, go out into the world, and teach their interpretation of what they think Elijah Meant - When the truth is Elijah said what he Meant

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 07:16 PM
It doesn't belong to Blacks neither, it belongs to Indians. Black people were brought here, to the land that white people stole and never allowed to anyone else to claim. Sorta like what happened to Kosovo now.

But that's not my point.

I only wanted to show that Sunny's points are doubgle-edged swords.

Fuck it, I really need a sleep, I can't make coherent thoughts now.


the people that caucasains saw when they landed their funky asses on these shores were black - black skinned - and so were the people they brought over here from africa - black americans, are a mixture of all 3
the black people who were here, the black people who were brought here, and that funky ass caucasian who infected the land

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 07:24 PM
I understand English almost perfectly, after all those books I read in it and shit.

you may understand it - but its obvious that you don't read or write it well

The point is that here is midnight, I'm tired as fuck and making reading errors.

possible

That's also why I'm not responding to your post now. Good night, see ya tomorrow.

do that and come back with a clear mind -



Some people are let into places they don't belong... Amazing bullshit. Again, according to that logic - go the fuck back to Africa.

i never been to africa - most of my people were already here -

some people are let into places they don't belong - some people are allowed to drive but they shouldn't be -
sometimes minors are let into R rated movies -

when i wrote what i wrote about people being let into places they don't belong, i was trying to be funny about them letting you into college - i would expect a college student to have a better reading comprehension

but your go back to africa response says it all -

when you bring truth to the children of satan, they show their teeth

BTTR KNG KOOL
06-11-2008, 07:28 PM
-
This is why the black folk who believe in Yacub story are never taken seriously. They keep going in circles, but if they expect that noone is gonna go against them, then theyre delusional Or if they believe noone has a "right" to go against them. Same thing.


The whole Yacub "story" or whatever u wanna call it.

Is a reflections of a man who struggles with reality.

And thats it.

They talk in abstract terms. Anyone can do that. Or is that based on how ur brains work? I guess the black authors of these stories dont have their Brains working like it should be then ! And they are the "white devils" they talk about.


Also what people dont understand is that when they talk about Caucasians. They actually talk about a group of people who look like some europeans and asians.


So ure actually talking about A lot Light skinned Europeans & Light skinned Asians. As they all come with dark eyes and dark hair.


Theres no argument.


Thats just another example how these people are racist. They talk about things they dont even SEE OR CAN SEE AS it appears in their Words.

Basically all the modern racist talk is based on the scientific model called "Out of Africa" which is questioned nowdays. All around the world.


All the black talk is based on a false view of race.

It is proven countless of times and can be proven again if neccesary !

LORD NOSE
06-11-2008, 07:42 PM
-
This is why the black folk who believe in Yacub story are never taken seriously. They keep going in circles, but if they expect that noone is gonna go against them, then theyre delusional Or if they believe noone has a "right" to go against them. Same thing.


The whole Yacub "story" or whatever u wanna call it.

Is a reflections of a man who struggles with reality.

And thats it.

They talk in abstract terms. Anyone can do that. Or is that based on how ur brains work? I guess the black authors of these stories dont have their Brains working like it should be then ! And they are the "white devils" they talk about.


Also what people dont understand is that when they talk about Caucasians. They actually talk about a group of people who look like some europeans and asians.


So ure actually talking about A lot Light skinned Europeans & Light skinned Asians. As they all come with dark eyes and dark hair.


Theres no argument.


Thats just another example how these people are racist. They talk about things they dont even SEE OR CAN SEE AS it appears in their Words.

Basically all the modern racist talk is based on the scientific model called "Out of Africa" which is questioned nowdays. All around the world.


All the black talk is based on a false view of race.

It is proven countless of times and can be proven again if neccesary !


bahh

Olive Oil Goombah
06-11-2008, 07:55 PM
it belongs to the indians

Technically, no it doesnt. It belongs to the United States Government. Exactly my point. It was theirs, they didn't or were unable to defend it, and it was taken. See every war and battle that has ever been fought.

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 08:02 PM
they lost their land because of biological warfare. it was stolen

if you steal something from someone, that doesn't mean its rightfully yours

Olive Oil Goombah
06-11-2008, 08:10 PM
your missing the point. You can cry about how the bully stole your lunch money, but unless you beat the bully down or figure out a way to stop him from taking your money, than its going to be his money.

You can cry about right and wrong all you want. The fact of the matter is that its not theirs anymore.

diggy
06-11-2008, 08:49 PM
your missing the point. You can cry about how the bully stole your lunch money, but unless you beat the bully down or figure out a way to stop him from taking your money, than its going to be his money.

You can cry about right and wrong all you want. The fact of the matter is that its not theirs anymore.

That's cold.

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 11:09 PM
Slim T - go look in the mirror...what you see is somebody that is racist out of lack of understanding which = ignorance.

Your expecting to find answers as if we are google where you can type and get and instant fix of an answer. Wont happen that way...ever.

Mic Tyson
06-11-2008, 11:24 PM
Slim T - go look in the mirror...what you see is somebody that is racist out of lack of understanding which = ignorance.



thats how alotta people are. its sad

Longbongcilvaringz
06-12-2008, 03:05 AM
the planet earth belongs to the fish

fixed

Longbongcilvaringz
06-12-2008, 03:18 AM
fuck yall. you ain't black so you will never "get it".

why does it even matter to any of yall?
i mean really yall aussies don'/t even know any black people. why do you care?

.... how would you know who the fuck i know, or what he fuck i know?

the aboriginal man = more original than the african american less melanin having infected diseased man

TSA included you uncle tom oreo cracker worshipping onion armpit african reject. stay suckin those redneck dicks. stay indoors and get you vitamin D that way you fuckin loser.


pat idk what to tell you man. i started my style career talkin this same shit.
see whites and savagery vol 1 & 2 , my 1st threads.

yeah, i was fooled by your conversational demeanor, i now realise that this appearance of sense was deceitful

and said "if a white person can accept the fact that i feel this way we can be the best of friends"

i have had brotherly friendship with white guys but will tell them in a min that crackers a fucked up and i have to know them in order to trust them.

your white friends are spineless, what more can i say. any white person accepting a black supremacist as a friend, is evidently easily mislead or has very little courage.

i thought that's where we were. a mutual understanding that style thought whites were biologically inferior to people of color, but have the same capacity for greatness as anyone else.



no?

ain't that a kick in the nuts


i feel like befriending a white person is like having a pet cobra. if it bites you, you can't be mad at anyone but yourself.

yeah, like letting a nigga in the house instead of keeping them in the field. i guess white people only have themselves to blame to the 'black problem'. (obviously i personally dont feel this way, but if i did, you should have no problem with it)

ouch


fuck it.




^has finally completely the metamorphosis into SUNNY WINTERS mentality.

High Five, look forward to never been taken seriously by anyone but fellow psychopaths.

Peace

LORD NOSE
06-12-2008, 05:45 AM
Originally Posted by STYLE http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1202632#post1202632)
fuck yall. you ain't black so you will never "get it".

why does it even matter to any of yall?
i mean really yall aussies don'/t even know any black people. why do you care?

.... how would you know who the fuck i know, or what he fuck i know?

the aboriginal man = more original than the african american less melanin having infected diseased man



you are truly stupid if you believe what you wrote -Black people in america have less melanin than aboriginals ?
LMAO someone...slap the teeth outa this fool



TSA included you uncle tom oreo cracker worshipping onion armpit african reject. stay suckin those redneck dicks. stay indoors and get you vitamin D that way you fuckin loser.


pat idk what to tell you man. i started my style career talkin this same shit.
see whites and savagery vol 1 & 2 , my 1st threads.

yeah, i was fooled by your conversational demeanor, i now realise that this appearance of sense was deceitful

and said "if a white person can accept the fact that i feel this way we can be the best of friends"

i have had brotherly friendship with white guys but will tell them in a min that crackers a fucked up and i have to know them in order to trust them.

your white friends are spineless, what more can i say. any white person accepting a black supremacist as a friend, is evidently easily mislead or has very little courage.

i thought that's where we were. a mutual understanding that style thought whites were biologically inferior to people of color, but have the same capacity for greatness as anyone else.



no?

ain't that a kick in the nuts


i feel like befriending a white person is like having a pet cobra. if it bites you, you can't be mad at anyone but yourself.

yeah, like letting a nigga in the house instead of keeping them in the field. i guess white people only have themselves to blame to the 'black problem'. (obviously i personally dont feel this way, but if i did, you should have no problem with it)

another one of satans children showing his teeth as the truth cannot be refuted -

ouch


fuck it.




^has finally completely the metamorphosis into SUNNY WINTERS mentality.

High Five, look forward to never been taken seriously by anyone but fellow psychopaths.

Peace __________

everyone that accepts the truth and beats you with it you think is either one of my akas, or someone who is following something you think i began -

no one needs your approval patty cakes


then has the nerve to end it with.....Peace

lol - these lil wet face white boys are hilarious

TSA
06-12-2008, 08:37 AM
i couldn't make friends with such a coward.

all sitting there taking it as i talk about white savagery and shit

don't get me wrong, i do get into the "god, why are white ppl are scumbags that like to sue everyone" and they'll say "dude, it's true elohel"

but "i hate your kind" as a pretext to me as a person, that's just childish, and anyone that excepts what im saying and still wants to go to a petting zoo with me is a coward and it reflects on who i am.
shit's gay.

TSA
06-12-2008, 08:40 AM
and +Geeohdeez for calling pat patty cakes. cause it best spells out the fact he isn't fit to be mod and should stick to being a bitch

Robert
06-12-2008, 09:37 AM
][/I]another one of satans children showing his teeth

I thought it was pretty obvious he wasn't being serious.

Edgar Erebus
06-12-2008, 03:39 PM
Slim T revealed himself in this thread. Fuckin racist!


but your go back to africa response says it all -


Slim T - go look in the mirror...what you see is somebody that is racist out of lack of understanding which = ignorance.



Okay, now I gotta explain.

You hold of those words "Go back to Africa" like I spoke of my personal opinion there.

But I said before "according to that logic".


I was replying to Sunny's statement of "not belonging somewhere", which I understood as that someone who doesn't speak English on a native speaker level isn't allowed to post in an English forum.



Therefore, Blacks, who obviously are constantly denied complete equality by white majority in America - as if they don't belong there - so they don't belong to America. Therefore that statement "go the fuck back to Africa", just by following Sunny's statement as I understood it at the moment. Obviously there's been a terrible misunderstanding, Sunny, I apologize (but tell me the way I was supposed to know what you meant with your statement there... Which brings us to another topic, your obvious inability to express yourself clearly in English.)

I tell again, categorically, that I'm not a racist, that I never advocated segregation of any kind (being an immigrant I have personal experiences with segregation so I know what I'm talking about). I deeply apologize to anyone that I offended with my statement, but now you know what I was thinking when I wrote that. No bullshit.


@ Vader: What do you mean? Lack of understanding of what?

Edgar Erebus
06-12-2008, 03:47 PM
satans children showing his teeth

That's best sophistical fuck-up I ever seen on this forum.

(Sophism is the philosophical school, originating in Ancient Greece, which goes by the way that nothing is real and therefore everything can be explained rationally, without being empirical. That lead to many wordplay philosophies that malevolent used to deceive people. Wordplay like yours.)



Watch this philosophy.

He uses the fact that the devils' characteristic of getting mad over the truth as the proof that he's a devil.

You're a devil, therefore you show teeth when someone said truth, therefore you're a devil.

A premise that confirms itself.

Deductive error #2, deduction is null and void.





Besides, if someone stepped to you and started talking shit in your face, would you be an angel or god or whatever and say: "Well, let's discuss it."

You wouldn't.

You would slap him right in his face.

Edgar Erebus
06-12-2008, 03:52 PM
the people that caucasains saw when they landed their funky asses on these shores were black - black skinned - and so were the people they brought over here from africa - black americans, are a mixture of all 3
the black people who were here, the black people who were brought here, and that funky ass caucasian who infected the land


You proved only that you know SHIT about genetics.

Genetic code of Indians is closest to those of Mongoloid race of the East. The fact that they were dark-skinned is only result of constant exposure to tropical sun. No, they WEREN'T black skinned.

Go to Italy one summer and you'll notice that many Italians are dark-skinned at the period, sort of U-God color. But they're still Caucasians and the fact that they tanned does not make them any closer to the Black.



Same goes to your Aboriginal rant.

Look at genetical code - and you'll notice that, genetically, there's more similarity between my white ass and your black ass than between your black ass and any Aboriginal black ass.

Edgar Erebus
06-12-2008, 03:55 PM
i never said anything about my thought system being based on science - that is a misunderstanding on your part - and a further indication to me that you are just not ready for this


Ah yeah?


Well that changes the whole shit.


I think I'll retreat from discussion, I can't argue with someone whose though system is based on... what, religion? Belief? Sorry, I can't argue with believers.

I can't argue with someone who doesn't ALLOW possibility for him to be wrong.

That's the direct consequence of being a believer.

LORD NOSE
06-12-2008, 03:59 PM
You proved only that you know SHIT about genetics.

Genetic code of Indians is closest to those of Mongoloid race of the East. The fact that they were dark-skinned is only result of constant exposure to tropical sun. No, they WEREN'T black skinned.


you proved that you don't know shit about who was here in america before the funky ass caucasian crept up on it - there were thousands of different types of natives here in america - not only light skinned asian looking ones you idiot


Go to Italy one summer and you'll notice that many Italians are dark-skinned at the period, sort of U-God color. But they're still Caucasians and the fact that they tanned does not make them any closer to the Black.

the fuck you telling me this for



Same goes to your Aboriginal rant.

Look at genetical code - and you'll notice that, genetically, there's more similarity between my white ass and your black ass than between your black ass and any Aboriginal black ass.

bullshit - KTL isn't for you

LORD NOSE
06-12-2008, 04:04 PM
Okay, now I gotta explain.

You hold of those words "Go back to Africa" like I spoke of my personal opinion there.

But I said before "according to that logic".


I was replying to Sunny's statement of "not belonging somewhere", which I understood as that someone who doesn't speak English on a native speaker level isn't allowed to post in an English forum.



Therefore, Blacks, who obviously are constantly denied complete equality by white majority in America - as if they don't belong there - so they don't belong to America. Therefore that statement "go the fuck back to Africa", just by following Sunny's statement as I understood it at the moment. Obviously there's been a terrible misunderstanding, Sunny, I apologize (but tell me the way I was supposed to know what you meant with your statement there... Which brings us to another topic, your obvious inability to express yourself clearly in English.)

I tell again, categorically, that I'm not a racist, that I never advocated segregation of any kind (being an immigrant I have personal experiences with segregation so I know what I'm talking about). I deeply apologize to anyone that I offended with my statement, but now you know what I was thinking when I wrote that. No bullshit.


@ Vader: What do you mean? Lack of understanding of what?

bullshit -

you was sleepy, frustrated, and angry and you told me to take my ass back to africa - and now you are trying to cover it up by saying that you are not a racist and you have experienced segregation and all -

they always follow this same pattern - checks thread, How to Spot the Children of Satan

LORD NOSE
06-12-2008, 04:11 PM
That's best sophistical fuck-up I ever seen on this forum.

(Sophism is the philosophical school, originating in Ancient Greece, which goes by the way that nothing is real and therefore everything can be explained rationally, without being empirical. That lead to many wordplay philosophies that malevolent used to deceive people. Wordplay like yours.)



first of all - nothing originated in ancient greece -

on the definition of sophism.....thats why i said that i wasn't trying to deceive you ..... dumb ass



Watch this philosophy.

He uses the fact that the devils' characteristic of getting mad over the truth as the proof that he's a devil.

You're a devil, therefore you show teeth when someone said truth, therefore you're a devil.

language barrier

A premise that confirms itself.

Deductive error #2, deduction is null and void.





Besides, if someone stepped to you and started talking shit in your face, would you be an angel or god or whatever and say: "Well, let's discuss it."


quit before it gets worst for you - i'm being mild with you cause i know you ain't good at this type of thing

You wouldn't.

You would slap him right in his face.

i don't slap people in the face for talking shit to me - it'll take a drunk person to step to me and talk shit in person - or someone who is suicidal - people just don't fuck with me like that and i'm disciplined enough to keep calm in the presence of fools - besides - i'll be in big trouble if i slapped someone in the face

LORD NOSE
06-12-2008, 04:13 PM
Ah yeah?


Well that changes the whole shit.


I think I'll retreat from discussion, I can't argue with someone whose though system is based on... what, religion? Belief? Sorry, I can't argue with believers.

I can't argue with someone who doesn't ALLOW possibility for him to be wrong.

That's the direct consequence of being a believer.

tell me what my thought system is based on lmao - why assume and make an ass of yourself ?

right - don't argue with me - you'll lose every time

keep guessing though

Edgar Erebus
06-12-2008, 04:24 PM
Post #1.

you proved that you don't know shit about who was here in america before the funky ass caucasian crept up on it - there were thousands of different types of natives here in america - not only light skinned asian looking ones you idiot

They all came across Bering's strait 20 000 years ago and they were all yellow in the beginning. But climatic changes make miracles.

You lost this one, try again.





the fuck you telling me this for
I really don't know, you ain't reading anyway.





bullshit - KTL isn't for you
I know. I'm too open-minded and I know too much for being here.



Post #2.

bullshit -

you was sleepy, frustrated, and angry and you told me to take my ass back to africa - and now you are trying to cover it up by saying that you are not a racist and you have experienced segregation and all -

they always follow this same pattern - checks thread, How to Spot the Children of Satan

The fuck you know from what did I think about? Again, you read minds? Through Internet? I ain't never lying or bullshitting no one.

And yet, you said:

lmao - why assume and make an ass of yourself ?You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye. (Matthew 7:5)



Post #3.

first of all - nothing originated in ancient greece -

Bullshit, rest of your posts dismissed.









I'm leaving Sunny. Keep living happy, believing you won another argument.

LORD NOSE
06-12-2008, 04:40 PM
Post #1.



They all came across Bering's strait 20 000 years ago and they were all yellow in the beginning. But climatic changes make miracles.

You lost this one, try again.



lmao - so all of the natives in america are the same - again - there were thousands of different types of natives here before the funky ass caucasian crepted up on the shores of america like a virus slowly shot in the veins of its victim by an evil doctor - there were many many different types of languages spoken here - many many different types of hues - most were dark to very dark skinned - they didn't begin becoming yellow until after all the raping and pillaging by the funky ass caucasian - there is a mixture of arab and chinese who left asia and or better yet was exiled out of china and hit the shores of the west coast of america - these mixed with the black natives here in america





















The fuck you know from what did I think about? Again, you read minds? Through Internet? I ain't never lying or bullshitting no one.

english please - RIF

















believing you won another argument.

there was no argument, fight or debate - you're just not built like that

Edgar Erebus
06-12-2008, 04:56 PM
lmao - so all of the natives in america are the same - again - there were thousands of different types of natives here before the funky ass caucasian crepted up on the shores of america like a virus slowly shot in the veins of its victim by an evil doctor - there were many many different types of languages spoken here - many many different types of hues - most were dark to very dark skinned - they didn't begin becoming yellow until after all the raping and pillaging by the funky ass caucasian - there is a mixture of arab and chinese who left asia and or better yet was exiled out of china and hit the shores of the west coast of america - these mixed with the black natives here in america



Nonsense.







You dead wrong on one count. You're not on MY level.


Please, do some listening to Lyrics Born, and when you come to the chorus of "I'm Just Raw", remember: it's my dedication to you.


This waste of bandwidth is dead from now on for me.

LORD NOSE
06-12-2008, 05:02 PM
Nonsense.







You dead wrong on one count. You're not on MY level.


Please, do some listening to Lyrics Born, and when you come to the chorus of "I'm Just Raw", remember: it's my dedication to you.


This waste of bandwidth is dead from now on for me.


LMAO !

STYLE
06-12-2008, 07:03 PM
i couldn't make friends with such a coward.

all sitting there taking it as i talk about white savagery and shit

don't get me wrong, i do get into the "god, why are white ppl are scumbags that like to sue everyone" and they'll say "dude, it's true elohel"

but "i hate your kind" as a pretext to me as a person, that's just childish, and anyone that excepts what im saying and still wants to go to a petting zoo with me is a coward and it reflects on who i am.
shit's gay.

thinks the white race is superior.
friends use "nigger" when he's not around.
laughs with them at their african/black jokes.
admires white mans capri suns and cool ranch doritos
hates himself and anything that looks remotely like him.


kRcn8AtYr6A

STYLE
06-12-2008, 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1204236#post1204236)
first of all - nothing originated in ancient greece -


wrong....
http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/greekorgy-1.jpg


http://www.hypatia-lovers.com/images/Ancient_Greek_Cup.gif

diggy
06-12-2008, 08:53 PM
Okay, now I gotta explain.

You hold of those words "Go back to Africa" like I spoke of my personal opinion there.

But I said before "according to that logic"....




... Therefore that statement "go the fuck back to Africa", ...

...Obviously there's been a terrible misunderstanding, Sunny, I apologize ....

...I tell again, categorically, that I'm not a racist, that I never advocated segregation of any kind ...

... I deeply apologize to anyone that I offended with my statement, but now you know what I was thinking when I wrote that. No bullshit...



Explaining why u used a statement that is mostly used only by racists,
Apologizing for using it,
And saying that u are not a racist,




means u are a FUCKIN RACIST!!!

STYLE
06-12-2008, 08:58 PM
don't get me wrong, i do get into the "god, why are white ppl are scumbags that like to sue everyone" and they'll say "dude, it's true elohel"


Explaining why u used a statement that is mostly used only by racists,
Apologizing for using it,
And saying that u are not a racist,




means u are a FUCKIN RACIST!!!

:learning:

diggy
06-12-2008, 09:20 PM
:learning:

I did :learning:.




Did u :learning: ?




I understand English almost perfectly, after all those books I read in it and shit.

The point is that here is midnight, I'm tired as fuck and making reading errors.

That's also why I'm not responding to your post now. Good night, see ya tomorrow.



Some people are let into places they don't belong... Amazing bullshit. Again, according to that logic - go the fuck back to Africa.

diggy
06-12-2008, 09:22 PM
:no:

Longbongcilvaringz
06-12-2008, 11:37 PM
.... how would you know who the fuck i know, or what he fuck i know?

the aboriginal man = more original than the african american less melanin having infected diseased man



you are truly stupid if you believe what you wrote -Black people in america have less melanin than aboriginals ?
LMAO someone...slap the teeth outa this fool

yeah, like letting a nigga in the house instead of keeping them in the field. i guess white people only have themselves to blame to the 'black problem'. (obviously i personally dont feel this way, but if i did, you should have no problem with it)

another one of satans children showing his teeth as the truth cannot be refuted -

ouch


fuck it.


[/COLOR][/I]

everyone that accepts the truth and beats you with it you think is either one of my akas, or someone who is following something you think i began -

no one needs your approval patty cakes


then has the nerve to end it with.....Peace

lol - these lil wet face white boys are hilarious

im unsure as to why you felt the need to reply to this post, as it wasnt directed towards you. whatever you want though.

there are aboriginal people in australia with higher melanin levels than "black" people in america.

want me to prove it? huh? huh?

you want... proof?

well like, um, your not on that level yet, stay uninformed, your not ready for it, your not on that level, your not ready for the realnass.

you didnt understand the second part which you chose to reply to.

plain and simple.

you just didnt understand it.

what more can i say...

maybe i should explain the (simple) path which i followed in making that statement...

but nah, your not ready for the truth.

the truth.

the truth.

the truth is style said Jasper couldnt come into the Vatican because he was "too racist".


haha

at least Jasper is joking, and hes only stating cultural stereotypes.

you guys are actual racists, who believe other races are actually inferior physically and mentally.

its fucking pathetic.

black boys are hilarious.

or at least the easily mislead, uneducated, paranoid, internet educated ones...

actual all people fitting that description are hilarious.

and everyone who shares your beliefs isnt literally you sunny, but you people are all interchangable.

your methods are exactly the same, as is your approach to 'building'.

and you'll probably take that as a compliment.

i dont know

LORD NOSE
06-12-2008, 11:46 PM
im unsure as to why you felt the need to reply to this post, as it wasnt directed towards you. whatever you want though.

there are aboriginal people in australia with higher melanin levels than "black" people in america.

want me to prove it? huh? huh?

you want... proof?

well like, um, your not on that level yet, stay uninformed, your not ready for it, your not on that level, your not ready for the realnass.

you didnt understand the second part which you chose to reply to.

plain and simple.

you just didnt understand it.

what more can i say...

maybe i should explain the (simple) path which i followed in making that statement...

but nah, your not ready for the truth.

the truth.

the truth.

the truth is style said Jasper couldnt come into the Vatican because he was "too racist".


haha

at least Jasper is joking, and hes only stating cultural stereotypes.

you guys are actual racists, who believe other races are actually inferior physically and mentally.

its fucking pathetic.

black boys are hilarious.

or at least the easily mislead, uneducated, paranoid, internet educated ones...

actual all people fitting that description are hilarious.

and everyone who shares your beliefs isnt literally you sunny, but you people are all interchangable.

your methods are exactly the same, as is your approach to 'building'.

and you'll probably take that as a compliment.

i dont know



awww - wookit wittle puppy pat trying to come off with words

you go on now - and remember to be a good little wet face white boy

STYLE
06-13-2008, 12:10 AM
pat come on.

i posted info about the physiological effects of melanin.

you can't refute the properties of the melanin molecule. it's a fact.

what part of my post was an illogical jump from fact to speculation?

why do you view this as racism?

the difference between races is not just skin deep. right?

caucasians have traits that are superior to that of people of color.

and i tried to stress that everyting has a spectrum. nothing is cut and dry.

i know that some of this info is disquieting to you, possibly outright offensive.
but that doesn't negate it's veracity.

i am disappointed in how quickly you gave me your hand to talk to.

Longbongcilvaringz
06-13-2008, 12:22 AM
i dont have time right now, but i assure you on monday i will try and continue the discussion.

plus i asked some questions before, which were lost in the thread.

so i dont know.

im out.

Longbongcilvaringz
06-13-2008, 12:23 AM
and i didnt "give you my hand to talk to".

earlier i asked questions, they were ignored, sunny started with the usual stuff which derailed things.

you said racists things, i got worked up.

nuff said.

LORD NOSE
06-13-2008, 12:43 AM
and i didnt "give you my hand to talk to".

earlier i asked questions, they were ignored, sunny started with the usual stuff which derailed things.

you said racists things, i got worked up.

nuff said.



don't be mad cause your white

Longbongcilvaringz
06-13-2008, 02:04 AM
hahahahaha

STYLE
06-13-2008, 02:07 AM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/Adamska_photos/WhitePower.jpg

Longbongcilvaringz
06-13-2008, 02:10 AM
hahaha

white power!??

hahaha

what a joke.

powerful! white! people!!???

hahahaha

TSA
06-13-2008, 02:55 AM
thinks the white race is superior.
I don't believe in race
friends use "nigger" when he's not around.
most of my friends are africans blacks and wiggers, but continue
laughs with them at their african/black jokes.
i usually say "dude that was gay" and it ends, unless it's funny like, Matius calling himself Niggerachi on Halo and getting all the racist halo user remarks that came towards him from across the globe. Sometimes is just fucking hilarious though.

admires white mans capri suns and cool ranch doritos
HELL YA i admire that shit. i NEVER. EEVVVVERR got capri suns at my house. my parents are african. They think fun in playing in the village and america is unsafe. so we didn't get to do SHIT. and if it wasn't needed for survival we wouldn't get it. Capri Sun? you wanna explain that shit to a nigga the went through a civil war. and Capri Sun was the shit. i just never got it. I would go to this douche bags house up the street just for pop and carpi sun.
hates himself and anything that looks remotely like him.
I like myself, and i really like ppl that look like me cause i think it's a good look. Your attempts to pain me as a self hating black man are soft. I don't believe in race, and i don't like racism, therefore if your being racist im going to expose you, and tell you exactly how the world is as opposed to your living in the world as it should be. you currently mad that white ppl have more influence then you. It's cool. I was too when i say 13-15, then i grew out of it.

kRcn8AtYr6A


i think you fail to understand the fact that
I'VE. NEVER. BEEN. TO. DAIRY. QUEEN. IN. MY. LIFE.

and you mentioning of capri suns was a low blow, cause my parents didn't know what field trips were, let alone drinks that kids happen to like cause they taste good.

water

that shit's wack.

water?

fuck that nigga, im real.

and cereal? they'd by the shittiest cereal so that we wouldn't finish it too fast..

the fuck is that? shit costs like what...4 dollars...less?
then when they felt like being generous we'd get donuts, but when they arrive your busy drinking the neighbor kids capri sun and your brothers eat all the donuts

this is all while your dad is using your toothbrush and you mom is calling your sister to come inside and hand her the remote that's 2 feet away from her.

Eyetalian
06-13-2008, 03:18 AM
i think you fail to understand the fact that
I'VE. NEVER. BEEN. TO. DAIRY. QUEEN. IN. MY. LIFE.

and you mentioning of capri suns was a low blow, cause my parents didn't know what field trips were, let alone drinks that kids happen to like cause they taste good.

water

that shit's wack.

water?

fuck that nigga, im real.

and cereal? they'd by the shittiest cereal so that we wouldn't finish it too fast..


the fuck is that? shit costs like what...4 dollars...less?
then when they felt like being generous we'd get donuts, but when they arrive your busy drinking the neighbor kids capri sun and your brothers eat all the donuts

this is all while your dad is using your toothbrush and you mom is calling your sister to come inside and hand her the remote that's 2 feet away from her.

Well payed squire

Olive Oil Goombah
06-13-2008, 06:11 AM
Thank God im not black.

or at least african american

diggy
03-12-2013, 08:57 PM
This was entertaining. Plus, I learned a lil.

RADIOACTIVE MAN
03-29-2013, 08:33 PM
this has gotta be the most interesting thread ive read in this section...it just kept getting more epic smh, this cant be life

LORD NOSE
03-29-2013, 10:03 PM
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/189/3p96hd.jpg

Uncle Steezo
04-07-2013, 06:57 AM
HAHAHAHAH good times

LORD NOSE
04-07-2013, 08:33 AM
Question for those who built with us throughout the years.

When you interact with the people out in this world, family included, do they appear to you to be lost,primitive, far behind the times ?

diggy
04-07-2013, 11:35 AM
That is a good question.

I see some people as grown up children unfortunately, with their yells and arguments being a grown-up version of a baby crying. Yes, I know a few who are not in this decade, not growing with knowledge and experience, stuck in some other time, repeating the same mistakes, believing in things that apparently (from my perspective) are foolish. I see people in a state of confusion and delusion, believing in illusions. Primitive yes, and I see that in the way some are angered easily with their facial expressions looking very primitive, like an aggressive primate would do literally. Lost, yes.


Have you ever noticed that some people who have a prominent supraorbital ridge, are highly aggressive at times, more than those who don't have it?

IrOnMaN
04-07-2013, 11:47 AM
That is a good question.

I see some people as grown up children unfortunately, with their yells and arguments being a grown-up version of a baby crying. Yes, I know a few who are not in this decade, not growing with knowledge and experience, stuck in some other time, repeating the same mistakes, believing in things that apparently (from my perspective) are foolish. I see people in a state of confusion and delusion, believing in illusions. Primitive yes, and I see that in the way some are angered easily with their facial expressions looking very primitive, like an aggressive primate would do literally. Lost, yes.


Have you ever noticed that some people who have a prominent supraorbital ridge, are highly aggressive at times, more than those who don't have it?

Good post. Truth be told, some individuals don't have the resources nor the will to become better. Growing isn't an overnight process, it takes time, will, knowledge, and experence to become the person you'll want be.

LORD NOSE
04-07-2013, 03:14 PM
That is a good question.

I see some people as grown up children unfortunately, with their yells and arguments being a grown-up version of a baby crying. Yes, I know a few who are not in this decade, not growing with knowledge and experience, stuck in some other time, repeating the same mistakes, believing in things that apparently (from my perspective) are foolish. I see people in a state of confusion and delusion, believing in illusions. Primitive yes, and I see that in the way some are angered easily with their facial expressions looking very primitive, like an aggressive primate would do literally. Lost, yes.


do you ever notice any of these traits in yourself ?


are you ever in any situation where you're tried and tested to see how low you can go ?


Have you ever noticed that some people who have a prominent supraorbital ridge, are highly aggressive at times, more than those who don't have it?


i never noticed that - i do notice that people who eat swine are often times brash and highly irrational - and people who are overweight and or unhealthy are always trying to get over and do shit half ass.

also meek and humble people who want what's best are usually sad and depressed.

diggy
04-07-2013, 07:27 PM
Nice observations on those other things.

The only things I notice are when I do not get enough sleep, I am easy to argue over some bs because my inner dialogue says I should say something.

In general, I say no because I am not an impulsive person. I am slow in my behavior and I am usually an observer.

diggy
04-07-2013, 07:32 PM
How bout you?

LORD NOSE
04-07-2013, 08:11 PM
i'll fuck you up when i'm sleepy


but it's just because i'm less tolerant when i'm not refreshed

i tolerate alot of bullshit - i watch and keep my distance - i'll warn you several times - give you the benefit of the doubt - give you an example of how you are annoying - provide solutions - and when all that fails, i'm whoopin your ass

diggy
04-07-2013, 08:50 PM
I feel ya.

I notice a lot of behavioral problems in general involve impulsiveness, impatience, anger, and fear.

LORD NOSE
04-08-2013, 04:23 AM
I want to get into a build with you a about the character traits of the dajal

I'm thinking that the dajal and the.messiah grew up together in the same area. Please don't ask why i see it like this yet lol.

I have a few reasons to believe that the dajal has gotten a bad rap by those who wanted to conceal the messiahs identity.

Because he was to come and wipe away everything they believed. And those who make money off of religion would lose money.

Floating grape _ dajal

Hook nose _ messiah

The dajal put him through alot of pain to test him and to prove to a set group that he was the messiah.

The dajal loved him

And the dajal was the only one that he could not out debate.

After losing a debate to the dajal, the dajal kissed a quaran and gave it to him.

The dajal is also a few years younger than him.

Btw, none of this happened on The soils of arabia, but in the melting pot

LORD NOSE
04-08-2013, 04:25 AM
Debated a long time whether or not to make this public.

Been wanting to ask you this for some time.

I do beleive we are very close to experiencing some very interesting times.

LORD NOSE
04-08-2013, 04:28 AM
The god of america will rule globally

Quetzacoatl

Will rise among the original man.

The natives of this place

The 7.

Undeniable shit.

Everything else is a distraction

diggy
04-08-2013, 03:31 PM
I want to get into a build with you a about the character traits of the dajal


I do not believe in dajal. The story of dajal could not be found in Quran, but is found in hadith. I believe Quran to be the only modern uncorrupted source of Islaam. I believe hadith to be a compilation of statements attributed to the Prophet about 250 to 300 yrs after his death and has no relevance in Islaam.

I do not believe that a Messiah is coming. I believe he was "raised up", a euphemism some say which means he died. Nothing in Quran indicates he will come back.

Traditional Islam has been infiltrated with foreign ideas because shaitans' promise was that he would lead men away from ArRahman ArRaheem, and a look at this world shows him being true to his promise.



I do beleive we are very close to experiencing some very interesting times. I believe so. Some prophesies, which are in the Quran that need to be fulfilled before the resurrection are:

- ad-dukhan , the smoke, which will plague the earth leading to the deaths of 2/3 of the world population.

- juj and majuj (gog and magog) - this is open to interpretation as to what or who this is

- a creature will talk to man about true Islaam. Exactly what this creature is, is not well known.

...there is more...

LORD NOSE
04-08-2013, 05:09 PM
out side of the Quaran or any other compilation of books...the story is in nature.


there is no One Messiah - Messiahs Come and Go

just like people may talk about the next Jordan and may look at Colby and Lebron

people talk about the next Hitler

great ones consistently rise and fall among us - this is natural - and what's written/recorded of ancient time may cause one to miss todays times if the purpose of those recordings is misunderstood by the reader.

LORD NOSE
04-08-2013, 05:21 PM
I do not believe in dajal. The story of dajal could not be found in Quran, but is found in hadith. I believe Quran to be the only modern uncorrupted source of Islaam. I believe hadith to be a compilation of statements attributed to the Prophet about 250 to 300 yrs after his death and has no relevance in Islaam.


and this description of the dajal may have been drawn to lead people away from being guided to the true Islam.

and i believe that no one book can lead anyone to true Islam.

I do not believe that a Messiah is coming. I believe he was "raised up", a euphemism some say which means he died. Nothing in Quran indicates he will come back.

and who is this Messiah who died ?

what was his purpose and how can we, the people on this earth today benefit from a dead Messiah

Traditional Islam has been infiltrated with foreign ideas because shaitans' promise was that he would lead men away from ArRahman ArRaheem, and a look at this world shows him being true to his promise.

all ancient things,and beliefs fade away eventually.

we know right from wrong.

but if in our righteousness, we are looking for the wrong ones in the world, we become those wrong ones in the world.

using ancient misunderstood methods of dealing with those we see as wrong will cause us to be in error every time



I believe so. Some prophesies, which are in the Quran that need to be fulfilled before the resurrection are:

- ad-dukhan , the smoke, which will plague the earth leading to the deaths of 2/3 of the world population.

- juj and majuj (gog and magog) - this is open to interpretation as to what or who this is

- a creature will talk to man about true Islaam. Exactly what this creature is, is not well known.

...there is more...

we believe in things we don't understand and we suffer and cause others to suffer.

if there is a grand enemy, this enemy knows what the believers are looking for and can easily manufacture these events - and cause the people to submit to it.

diggy
04-08-2013, 06:56 PM
and who is this Messiah who died ?

I was referring to the man called Jesus.



we believe in things we don't understand and we suffer and cause others to suffer.

if there is a grand enemy, this enemy knows what the believers are looking for and can easily manufacture these events - and cause the people to submit to it.

But if God does not will man to manufacture these events, then it does not happen. God, the all-powerful.

LORD NOSE
04-09-2013, 03:44 AM
But if God does not will man to manufacture these events, then it does not happen. God, the all-powerful.

zack lee

vahacris
04-15-2013, 01:08 PM
heh, 2 biggest corp pussies with personal prpblems, both thinkin they are the shit.......

pathetic.....