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TSA
06-11-2008, 03:28 PM
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STYLE
06-11-2008, 03:31 PM
whatever rocks and monkey bones igbo's call god.

2nd worst is worshipping the whiteman.

fag.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 03:31 PM
There were some pretty heavy cases in India in the 18-19th century. Ritual killings, occultism, burning widow along with its dead husband and such stuff.

Otherwise I think that Catholicism and Sunni Islam have highest death toll.

TSA
06-11-2008, 03:35 PM
whatever rocks and monkey bones igbo's call god.

2nd worst is worshipping the whiteman.

fag.

that bone monkey bone throwing would be Pagan/animism.
You use it as an insult because you live in a western context of culture, and vatican told your people it was sinful and barbaric 900 to 1000 years ago.

the white man also has more power then you

ya dig?

TSA
06-11-2008, 03:43 PM
i choose NGE.
it's hideous.
all of it's followers don't adhere to it's rules and usually live very sinfully.
it's also more a of 'comeback' to white dominance then an actual call to self betterment and a connection with forces beyond yourself.

i really respect the aspect of finding god in yourself. but the strength of that view is quickly countered by the fact that only black people can do that, black people being a white man's term btw, using white mans english and latin acronyms with an occassional splash of islam, another religion created by ppl classified by the faiths philosophy as 'the devils'.

No religion goes out of its way to be little another group of people genetics, mainly cause they weren't built from a need to fill a void of crushed and begotten self esteem and a vague to non existance sense of self worth.

it also failed, miserably, to catch on and not even most, 99.9% of black ppl will look at you like a psychopath for spouting that stuff.


it also is built on facts that have no scientific base though it claims to be a science. The fact that black ppl are actually hebrew(white religion) from asia(what?), the fact that white ppl were an experiment by a fellow made yacub, the fact that the world works using the white man's numeric system and the white man's latin alphabet.

i'd vote it the worst not cause it's bullshit though, a lot of religions are, but it goes out of it's way to make it's followers worst people then they were to begin with.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 03:49 PM
Response of them to ^^ this post is that you're the one of the 85%.

V4D3R
06-11-2008, 03:50 PM
Nge Is Not A Religion And You Dont Know What Your Talking About....and You Have Repeated The Same Hatred 3 Times Today Towards Nge And Black People.

Love Yourself Before U Touch This Topic.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 03:51 PM
I also find voodoo quite interesting in that view. I heard this in a James Bond flicc, I think, and it sums up the religion better than any "official" description: it doesn't have a religious organization, but organized superstition.

Not that it's worst religion, but the fear before it is quite amazing.

Topic #1, you know anything more on it?

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 03:53 PM
Nge Is Not A Religion And You Dont Know What Your Talking About....and You Have Repeated The Same Hatred 3 Times Today Towards Nge And Black People.

Love Yourself Before U Touch This Topic.




Response of them to ^^ this post is that you're the one of the 85%.


Yeah.

STYLE
06-11-2008, 03:54 PM
the white man also has more power then you


white cock worship.


this monkey really hates himself.

TSA
06-11-2008, 03:56 PM
i have no beef with black people. i am a black people.
i did say they get better christmas presents then black ppl and have been more successful in the world system as a collective.
it's not a lie.
i just don't like NGE, which in the end of the day has nothing to do with black people.
at-all.

at-all.

it's a religion though, it points out it's philosophy on god, how to live and it's believers are to follow it with faith in the fact they think it's all true.

that's a religion.

but it's a horrible religion cause it has nothing to do with self betterment or actual improvement of black peoples condition and more to do with insult white people and reversing the roles of angry supremacist talk.

it also implys the whites were created as a super version of blacks designed to control and eff up blacks, which would require superiority to do.

gross.
the whole thing is an identity crisis on paper, it's followers are also very notorious for living sinful and unjust lives but having cool names like Shallah God Justice (all words not made up by black people btw) so it fails as a path of self betterment

TSA
06-11-2008, 04:04 PM
I also find voodoo quite interesting in that view. I heard this in a James Bond flicc, I think, and it sums up the religion better than any "official" description: it doesn't have a religious organization, but organized superstition.

Not that it's worst religion, but the fear before it is quite amazing.

Topic #1, you know anything more on it?

voodoo, as we'll call it today, is fuckin amazing. I can't sum it all up cause there's 1000s of different types of voodoos.

I'll speak on my own cause that's what i know best.
The essential belief is that all worlds are one, the spirit world, the real world, hell, everything is a part of the real world.

it's also based on ancestor worship. Because everything is part of the real world, when an ancestor dies they stay in the real world as a spirit or are reincarnated into children and live the cycle of life again.

because there's spirits everywhere of ancestors, they can be summoned in real time to ulter realities in the world of flesh.

like i can call upon my great grandpa to give me a sign of what to do next, so on and so forth.

these spirits, since they're not bond by the flesh are able to exert super natural powers

my dad (who is VERY non religious/superstitious) saw a guy strike down a tree branch with thunder on a clear day to prove he was geeohdee.

my brother was born crippled and my grand uncle did a ritual to his legs that cause him to walk

a sword was left in the ground by and ancient warrior and he told nobody to pull it out or else he'll return as a giant python and kill them and a kid pull it and woke up with a giant white python on his bed.



so on, and so forth, idk to believe that shit or not, but i've witnessed it, it's just unreal

TSA
06-11-2008, 04:10 PM
there's also a belief in a supreme god, Chukwu, with no form or shape, he's more of a force, individual dieties responsible for certain things, Ikenga the god of wisdom the right hand and fortune for example, various protector spirits of different families, and creatures with powers like Pythons being equal to people, if not above, you can't kill own and if it comes to your home while your eating you must feed it and escort it out with a stick with respect, and mermaids such as Ezebulumiri which is kinda like the god of whores lol

she takes human form around river or ocean communities, is, to the person looking at her, the image of the perfect women, has very full and long hair, wears red and white, has big tits, and HUGE eyes. She lures men into sleeping with her and takes their life force via duh spermz.

after doing this for a while the man becomes weak and dependant on her and she uses him to fuck shit up in the real world cause she's bitter. she's fond of taking husbands from wives and targetting powerful men cause they can do more,

mcca555
06-11-2008, 04:14 PM
Mormon

TSA
06-11-2008, 04:17 PM
Oh, and then there's masquarades.

they're not supposed to be ppl, so you don't treat them like ppl or ask who's inside cause it's a stupid question

they have powers depending one what they are and are to be treated with high respect.

they also have the right to kill you (some of them) if you violate, steal you shit, and go anywhere they want, but for the most part they're entertainers with powers.

they also show no respect for anyone unless you a GEE-OH-DEE. like SUPREME god allah geeohdee. In that case some to them will enter your village backwards.

they're mainly powerful because of the charms they have on them, which spread curses or fortunes as they pass depending on how you treat them. and some are harmless like Ekele, while others will cut your fuckin head off like Okorsha back in the day.

they come out sessionally and visit villages in order of the villages founding ancestors ages. That means if the founder of my village was the first born, they will visit it first, then the village founded by his next youngest brother, then his next youngest brother until it's all over.

they don't visit my dad's place because my great grandmother set up charms that repel them in her day, but they visit my mom's place first, so it's always dope to be there...except it has a lot of mosquitos, and really, really, really goofy teenages.

Edgar Erebus
06-11-2008, 04:45 PM
Dope.

So the most commercialized form, the dolls, is basically functioning on same principle: using the ancestor's power in that cutting-tree fashion, but to harm another man.

And since he's not geeohdee there's not even need to respect him.

Something like that?

And how widespread is it in Africa?

TSA
06-11-2008, 09:51 PM
well since the advent of islam and christianity it's hard to say

before both, all of subsaharan africa and the sahel without counting Ethiopia had an almost similar system of belief, but at the same time they varied alot.

ancestor worship is a common link though

in some parts of africa it's still the way of life, in most its a vague mix of that and christianity and in some parts it's almost non existant, like Botswana

the mixed christian and 'voodoo' system is the most dominate

the christian god is seen as the same as Chukwu, which is the igbo supreme god, jesus is Chineke or a lesser diety and many africans, even the 'christians' believe in items having divine properties, like bibles, to the point that they can physically harm possessed ppl.

african christianity is really different from ours cause of the mix.

it's also big in areas where a large number of west africans live like haiti which is 90 some % animist, brazil, cuba, and parts of the southern US.

the haitian form of the system is what's known as voodoo, but differs from continental systems cause it mixes various influences in different ways, and used things like voodoo dolls.




the crisis christianity is causing in africa is the fact that the old religion was linked with everything and there was no secularism or need for it.

religion was the government,igbo people have no kings or 'rulers' or any form of government, everyone follows guidelines set in place by a very real seeming religious mentality that keeps them in line as far as law and shit, and it made for a nearly crime free society, where the most common crime was eating kola nuts improperly. When things needed to be done a sense of civil duty drew needed people together to get a common goal done. It was also hard or impossible to lie and steal because there was always the sense of your grandma watching you and hearing your thoughts.

religion was medicine and countless african remedies for countless illnesses were made. There was also a focus on the patients belief in the system to make things work, much like how plesebos use the fact you think your getting healed to heal you. There's tons of illness in africa that don't exist anywhere else, and almost all of these have a cure to them, which is why many africans don't believe AIDS is native to africa because they really started encountering it when the rest of the world did.

and religion was culture, but since christianity says anything unchristian is ungodly, a lot of the foundations african societies were build on are shattering and once crime free societies are no longer safe.


so yeah, it's as wide spread as all of africa really cause it mixed with the various religions that came in and in many parts, usually the most isolated it's still followed, and it's also prevelant in the new world, almost more so then in africa is some parts.

the religion im telling you is that of the Igbo tho, everyone's varies in beliefs and shit, but they have common links that everyone notices, like an almost unanimous belief in mermaid whores.

TSA
06-11-2008, 09:54 PM
Dope.
And since he's not geeohdee there's not even need to respect him.


its basically the belief that spirits can be manipulated by ppl just as humans can be manipulated by spirits, only spirits require items a lot of the times. I'd why it's not called organized religion btw, it's probably more organized and buracratic then organized religions "good guys vs. bad guys, pick a side" philosophy.


anyways, they used a chicken to make my brother walk, then they buried his legs

he didn't walk till he was 5 and is now slightly pidgeon toed and drags his feet when he walks instead of talking normal steps, but you don't notice anything different from his walking and a normal persons unless you pay attention

Longbongcilvaringz
06-12-2008, 03:21 AM
They are all on pretty much the same level of ridiculousness.

I guess at least Taoism etc. are open for more interpretation, and some of the concepts are possibly applicable in reality.

diggy
06-12-2008, 03:27 AM
its basically the belief that spirits can be manipulated by ppl just as humans can be manipulated by spirits, only spirits require items a lot of the times. I'd why it's not called organized religion btw, it's probably more organized and buracratic then organized religions "good guys vs. bad guys, pick a side" philosophy.


anyways, they used a chicken to make my brother walk, then they buried his legs

he didn't walk till he was 5 and is now slightly pidgeon toed and drags his feet when he walks instead of talking normal steps, but you don't notice anything different from his walking and a normal persons unless you pay attention

The highlighted statement shows how dumb you are.


:(W

TSA
06-12-2008, 08:42 AM
or after the fact that they did a chicken ritual the nigga started walking you victim.

if you were a maggot you would eat the dick of the dead body first.

ALCATRAZ
06-12-2008, 10:24 AM
Christianity

Ghost In The 'Lac
06-12-2008, 10:40 AM
The least worst are Daoism and Confucianism. But the chinese couldnt decide which one to go with so they tried to mix them together and basically fucked the whole thing up. But Confuciansim is the least worst because it doesnt teach that theres any sort of God, it just sets out good priciples to live by. Daoism is a little fruity at times, but its still much less war mongering in what it teaches than Islam and Chirtsianity.

Guarded By Martyrs
06-12-2008, 10:54 AM
Just "Religion" itself in my opinion...

Edgar Erebus
06-12-2008, 04:37 PM
The least worst are Daoism and Confucianism. But the chinese couldnt decide which one to go with so they tried to mix them together and basically fucked the whole thing up. But Confuciansim is the least worst because it doesnt teach that theres any sort of God, it just sets out good priciples to live by. Daoism is a little fruity at times, but its still much less war mongering in what it teaches than Islam and Chirtsianity.



I don't know how good, they did their share of pain too (like all the religions).



The fact is that Daoism, Confucianism and Buddhism (in their original form) are the most advanced religions mankind knows.

Here's how it goes (in a simplified version).

Level 1. Animism. Belief that ancestors/spirits, loads of them, regulate the world's happenings. It came from fear of "supernatural" forces.

Level 2. Politheism. Politheists basically picture gods as animals/humans with supernatural forces. Every has a special force attached to them and every one represents something.

Level 3. Monotheism (Abrahamic religions). There is one God, omnipotent, abstract, beyond human understanding, impossible to trick (politheistic Gods could be). You can only oblige what he demands.

Level 4. Daoism/Confucianism/Buddhism. There is no God; the religion is basically a system of ethic rules you obey not to please any god, but to create life for you and people around you better and easier. It's basically the point where religion stops and philosophy begins.

TSA
06-13-2008, 11:44 AM
i don't think religion 'evolves'

it isn't pokemon

just some shit ppl believe.

Edgar Erebus
06-13-2008, 12:03 PM
i don't think religion 'evolves'

it isn't pokemon

just some shit ppl believe.

Don't be so naive, it's a powerful social system. As powerful - if not more - as state. And, in similar fashion as states, it's subject to evolution.

Cee Oh Vee
06-13-2008, 12:54 PM
@ an early post:

I just wanted to say there's no such thing as 'Sunni Islam', there's no 'Shia Islam' either.

Islam is Islam. There ain't no describing the 'type' of Islam since there's no sects within Islam.

The people who call themselves Sunni, or Shia or say they're of any other "sect" are deviants, simple as that.

Max Munch
06-13-2008, 01:10 PM
Asking what's the "worst" religion is just as useless as asking what's the "best" religion. There are no answers to these ignorant ass questions.. especially when they're being discussed by close-minded people who are so convinced that they're right.


Religions that I've PERSONALLY taken from are Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, and Hinduism. I believe all religions (shit, all things/people) have something to offer, something to teach us.

LORD NOSE
06-13-2008, 02:42 PM
What's the worst religion of all time, that you know of? (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1205418#post1205418)


all of the religions

the Nation of Gods and Earths is not a religion - its a Nation who lives an Islamic culture

TSA
06-13-2008, 06:50 PM
Don't be so naive, it's a powerful social system. As powerful - if not more - as state. And, in similar fashion as states, it's subject to evolution.
im not being naive, it's importance doesn't mean it evolves though. water doesn't evolve.

all religion is an early attempt to create a nation by presenting an explaination of the world, culture,and science. It get replaced by rational explanation unless you go out of your way to be ignit or if an external force changes the culture different things will make sense as far as culture and an explaination to the world then before, but one wrong answer isn't more advance then another wrong answer.

you can say secular/humanism is an advancement of religion, but a polytheistic religion isn't 'less advanced' then a monotheistic one and so forth.

confusionism makes the most sense in a rational secular world cause we have answers from science the fill the explaination gaps it leave out i guess, but in the end it's just a culture like the rest of them.

and what seperates animism from polytheism


confusionism is a good religion, but it creates a world where human value is actually de-valued as you are a unit for state manipulation in the end of the day. It establishes orders of inequality and give pretext for the authority to treat the people as something below it's self.

monotheism, because of a belief in one god is often one track minded, unable to accept other ideas, and gives birth to xenophobia and ethnocentrism cause you believe your 'right' and everyone else is 'wrong' and thus less worthy of humanity and justice then you.

Polytheism is actually very accepting but makes it difficult to break the realm of superstitution, most so then other religions cause there's a non scientific explaination to everything that hinders actual discovery. It also accompanies very inhumane rules rituals and taboos and it's general nature makes it difficult to break these over time therefore leading to practicing outdated shit.


i can go on and one about them all sucking and all being good but in the end of the day they're all the same thing, even science is a religion cause you have faith in something you've been told often without proving or discovering it yourself.

how the hell do you geniunely know the center of the earth is magma?
you've never seen it. but you have faith that it is cause of the proof and credible ppl that have told you

Dokuro
06-13-2008, 07:06 PM
you have no catholicism or scientology

TSA
06-13-2008, 07:21 PM
What's the worst religion of all time, that you know of? (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1205418#post1205418)


all of the religions

the Nation of Gods and Earths is not a religion - its a Nation who lives an Islamic culture

well look at it this way. islams core belief, which everything else sprouts from is submission to a power greater then you.

NGE is that black people are god and thus need to answer to nothing and no one.

for the fact that the cores are the polar opposites, and everything else that branches from it, racism, ethnocentricity, bitterness, for example, the two have nothing to do with each other what so ever.

at-all.

someguy
06-13-2008, 10:42 PM
I am glad to in the poll the most votes went to "they all blow"
alexander the great said "divide and conquer"

if we are divided we are conquered!!
how many "divisions" of religion are there?

good thread!

Eyetalian
06-13-2008, 11:08 PM
We are all retarded monkey fish frogs nuff said

someguy
06-14-2008, 12:07 PM
we are evolving genetic robots with AI my friend

Urban_Journalz
06-15-2008, 04:04 PM
This one's easy enough, none of the above.

Satanism is by far the worst in existence.

To call upon the sworn enemy of mankind for any kind of favor, is the equivalent of being a tuna and asking the fisherman for directions.