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NAKHI the SOLORIAN
08-09-2008, 08:35 AM
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Movie Info:
A documentary look at the cultural significance of the weighty, historically volatile "n word," this program features interviews with a variety of cultural figures, including Chuck D, Wynton Marsalis, Dr. Todd Boyd, Samuel L. Jackson, Bryant Gumbel, Whoopi Goldberg, Talib Kweli, Chris Rock and many others. An enlightening and in-depth look at a crucial topic, the film examines the history of the word and its uses, which range from a term of endearment to an abhorrent insult, as well as the personal experiences of many people.Screens:
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DL Links:
http://rapidshare.com/files/135072210/drowneht.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/135078416/drowneht.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/135084270/drowneht.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/135087105/drowneht.part4.rar

Charles Barry
08-09-2008, 08:55 AM
I ain't Sunny but this looks interesting. Thanks for the links.

Fatal Guillotine
08-09-2008, 09:09 AM
Earlier variants (such as neger or negar) derive from the Spanish/Portuguese word negro, meaning "black", and probably also the French nègre, which has also been used pejoratively (but also positively as in Négritude), derived from negro (the ordinary French word for "black" being noir). Both negro and noir (and therefore also nègre and nigger) ultimately come from nigrum, the accusative form of the Latin word niger (pronounced [niger], like "knee-ger" with the final r being trilled), simply meaning "black".

In Colonial America, negars was used in 1619 by John Rolfe, describing slaves shipped to Virginia colony. Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") also prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the African Burial Ground in New York City was originally known as "Begraafplaats van de Neger" (Dutch phrase meaning "Cemetery of the negro" in English).

In the United States, the word nigger was not always considered derogatory, but was instead used by many as merely denotative of black skin, as it was in other parts of the English-speaking world. In nineteenth-century literature, there are many uses of the word nigger with no intended negative connotation. Charles Dickens, and Joseph Conrad (who published The Nigger of the 'Narcissus' in 1897) used the word without racist intent. Mark Twain often put the word into the mouths of his characters, white and black, but did not use the word when writing as himself in his autobiographical Life on the Mississippi.

In the United Kingdom and other parts of the English-speaking world, the word was often used to refer to people of Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Kashmiri, Indian or Sri Lankan descent, or merely to darker-skinned foreigners in general; in his 1926 Modern English Usage, H. W. Fowler observed that when the word was applied to "others than full or partial negroes," it was "felt as an insult by the person described, & betrays in the speaker, if not deliberate insolence, at least a very arrogant inhumanity." The note was excised from later editions of the book.

In the 1800s, as nigger began to acquire the pejorative connotation it holds today, the term "Colored" gained popularity as a kinder alternative to negro and associated terms. For example, abolitionists in Boston, Massachusetts posted warnings to "Colored People of Boston and vicinity." The name of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People reflects the preference for this term at the time of the NAACP's founding in 1909.

Southern dialect in many parts of the southern United States changes the pronunciation of "Negro" to "nigra" (used most famously by Lyndon B. Johnson, a proponent of civil rights). In the early editions of his dictionary, Noah Webster suggested the new spelling of neger for "Negro".

Black became the preferred term in English in the late 1960s, and this continues to the present day. In the United States this has been displaced to some extent by African American, at least in politically correct usage, though this blanket term does not accurately describe those from other African nations such as Morocco; this resembles the term Afro-American that was in vogue in the early 1970s. Nevertheless, black continues in widespread use as a racial designation in the United States and is rarely regarded as offensive.

Today the word is often spelled nigga or niggah, in imitation of the manner in which some pronounce it. (Less-common variants are nigguh or even nikuh.) Other variations, designed to avoid the term itself, include nookah, nukka, nagger and the much older "jigger."



i find that there is sort of a double standard with this word and it has been for years. im not knocking black people but we use and abuse this word damn near everyday. i get mad whenever i hear someone uses this word wheter their black, latino, or white. it reminds me of what black people have gone thru in terms of slavery as well as racism. i find that whenever a white person or anyone that isnt afro-american says this, we as a black people get mad but i think that we must realized that when some of us use this word as a so-called form of endearment(i think its a bunch of bullshit.) we are only allowing others to take part/notice in our actions and embrace it.

Wooly Noggins
08-09-2008, 01:31 PM
Thanks yo - i seen this a few years back - good stuff -

what do you call a nigga who don't be knowin why we be callin niggas nigga and shit ?

NAKHI the SOLORIAN
08-09-2008, 03:06 PM
i find that there is sort of a double standard with this word and it has been for years. im not knocking black people but we use and abuse this word damn near everyday. i get mad whenever i hear someone uses this word wheter their black, latino, or white. it reminds me of what black people have gone thru in terms of slavery as well as racism. i find that whenever a white person or anyone that isnt afro-american says this, we as a black people get mad but i think that we must realized that when some of us use this word as a so-called form of endearment(i think its a bunch of bullshit.) we are only allowing others to take part/notice in our actions and embrace it.


i understand what you are sayin but on the same note can't we say this for "black culture" as a whole?


I am not downplayin your statement.....I try to limit the usage of the word myself

diggy
08-09-2008, 03:43 PM
Respect from others requires self-respect.

Wooly Noggins
08-09-2008, 07:30 PM
.....I try to limit the usage of the word myself

why ?

niggas will keep on saying the word nigga just like niggas will keep on eating pigs feet - the culture has to be rejected totally before you are able to get people to think that by them saying the word nigga is a bad thing to do - maby if you use the word in excess it'll get annoying and make peoples think twice about how they sound when using it - those of us with a deep unbougee NY street slang won't stop using it -

maybe if you get them to think about changing the names of the days of the week and the names of the months of the year, you'll get people to wanna continue the change - but to target a word like nigga and leave words like "fuck,ass,bitch,asswhole," as standard is.............

niggas need allot of work -

NAKHI the SOLORIAN
08-09-2008, 08:06 PM
Nah Sun I am 40 and got seeds that is my reason mainly.....

I understand your point but again doesn't change have to start somewhere?

The Frustrated Nigga still lives so all enemies should still beware...........

LORD NOSE
08-09-2008, 08:21 PM
for some reason the babies haven't pick that one up
and even deeper, they are not picking up much of what we got

Hip Hop was rebellious, but these "New Niggas" is throwing every thing about us away

ride the current

LORD NOSE
08-09-2008, 11:52 PM
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diggy
08-10-2008, 11:13 PM
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This is actually my favorite part of the movie. I had to watch it over and over.


:lmao:

STYLE
08-10-2008, 11:22 PM
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diggy
08-10-2008, 11:44 PM
NIBS8FTmHOA

Ya, I remember seeing that on WSHH. I actually thought that was funny too!

But seriously, the teacher is dumb. He's supposed to be an example, not stoop down to the students' level.


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