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Mic Tyson
08-30-2008, 09:44 PM
i know this is proly a stupid question andi know there are still some in north africa and the middle east, but why aren't they the majority? i know egypt and north africa used to be populated with black people same with the middle east, but why is that not true anymore? what the fuck happened? especially in the middle east cuz there aint none there hardly

HANZO
08-30-2008, 09:54 PM
they all got killed by the conquerors. the middle east and n.africa has been invaded by multiple groups of ppl for more than 2000 years. thats bound to take a toll on what the demographics of that region will be like.

but someone will say Arabs are black.. soo technically black ppl still populate the region.

sarr
08-31-2008, 02:35 AM
arabs arent black bro..im greek and im darker than alot of em. They are just a dark olive

Black Man
09-02-2008, 09:55 AM
arabs arent black bro..im greek and im darker than alot of em. They are just a dark olive

what makes a person black?

SID
09-02-2008, 10:44 AM
^^^lmao....DUDE your a white devil grafted by yakub

get over it

Black Man
09-02-2008, 12:05 PM
^^^lmao....DUDE your a white devil grafted by yakub

get over it

what makes a person white? what is a white devil compared to just a devil? what does it mean to be grafted? how is that done?

what makes a person black?

SID
09-02-2008, 12:06 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAH

Black Man is back

TSA
09-02-2008, 12:10 PM
LOL

i was just watching something on the Sahara, that's probably the most important locate to human history, ever


but North africa used to be all blacks until the equator tipped a little and it started turning into a desert, then all the blacks left and started a second wave of mass human migration that lead to the founding of egypt and all that shit.
some stayed

but the answer is they for the most part left, then arabs came in, but most north african country are like half or a little less the half african

some are just real mixed like Mauritania, and complete arabness is usually exclusive to the coast.

SID
09-02-2008, 12:17 PM
The Moors were the original inhabitants of n africa..Arabs decended from the Moors and the Berbers

TSA
09-02-2008, 12:31 PM
no arabs came from ethiopia, as all semities (joos arabs amaric ethiopians) did

SID
09-02-2008, 12:42 PM
Well if you want to be technicall ALL HUMANS came from ethiopia....We were all black in the begining..we changed due to climate, enviroment and yakub

I had a major eithiopia fetish like a year ago, bustin the flag on this site and shit....

I have always said it will be the most spiritual experience on earth to visit Ethiopia and not just for the views
http://i35.tinypic.com/2cggd8w.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/72srkh.jpg

Black Man
09-02-2008, 02:09 PM
so quick to talk about black people yet you still don't know what makes a person black.

when did arabs become semites?

sarr
09-02-2008, 05:25 PM
black man you are a joke on the internet and in real life

what is internet?
what is joke?
what is real life?
what is what?

nobody takes you serious...you have no knowledge and no respect. Atleast other 5%ers i speak to make a little sense and you can kinda respect their knowledge, but you just come across as an idiot
fuck off and die, loser.

Black Man
09-02-2008, 05:30 PM
don't be mad sarr.......it's ok that you don't know the answers...and so quick to talk about other people not answering questions and there you go again...not answering questions...simple questions about a topic you spoke on.

the black man is god.
the black woman is earth.
the babies are the greatest!

TSA
09-02-2008, 05:37 PM
I dont mean from ethiopia as in everyone is from ethiopia, but they're from that area, the ethiopian somalian area, it's wierd to explain cause you're right, everyones from there, but they are too

their languages are all linked which is proof that they seperated at a later date then everyone else and some believe judaism started in ethiopia


but the sahara used to look like the tiny oasis that dot it only all the way throw and was mans original stomping grounds until it started deserting up, then alot of ppl when north(moors berbers) and alot when south (bantus-black ppl) and some stayed (tuaregs)

Mic Tyson
09-02-2008, 05:40 PM
aight yall thanks for the answers. too bad somebody had to start askin random ass questions and fucked the thread up

And Black Man, Arabs and Africans are not the same people. and i already know your response to that.

What is an arab?
What is an african?
how are they different?

Black Man
09-02-2008, 05:52 PM
so he/she has the ability to ask questions does he/she have the ability to answer the questions?

Mic Tyson
09-02-2008, 06:05 PM
yes to whatever u said. but why do u think arabs and blacks are the same?

Black Man
09-02-2008, 06:09 PM
didn't say they were the same.

where's the answers?

Mic Tyson
09-02-2008, 06:18 PM
an african is someone from africa. an arab is someone from what is now the middle east. they different because they two completely different races and they have different cultures. and they look different too

Black Man
09-02-2008, 06:34 PM
an african is someone from africa. an arab is someone from what is now the middle east. they different because they two completely different races and they have different cultures. and they look different too

what was an arab called before the middle east? were they still arab even though there wasn't a middle east? according to you, the middle east didn't always exist.

what is race? is that something that's biological or social?

what is culture? does culture change based on location?

doesn't the people who inhabit africa have different cultures? why are they the same while having different cultures?

how does an arab look? how does an african look? do all arabs look the same and do all africans look the same?

what makes a person black?

you talk about the african and arab yet skip over the black?

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how come he doesn't look like these africans?http://sp1.yt-thm-a03.yimg.com/image/25/m1/1896819324 (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020sEvr1IrdQAWFyJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBpZm5udGl 1BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNzcgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=1irm9vpsi/EXP=1220480900/**http%3A//images.search.yahoo.com/images/view%3Fback=http%253A%252F%252Fimages.search.yahoo .com%252Fsearch%252Fimages%253Fp%253Dafrican%252Bp eople%252Bpics%2526fr%253Dyfp-t-501%2526ei%253Dutf-8%2526vm%253Dr%2526js%253D1%2526x%253Dwrt%26w=313% 26h=204%26imgurl=www.valdosta.edu%252F%257Emgwilli s%252Fafrican%252520people%2525202.jpg%26rurl=http %253A%252F%252Fwww.valdosta.edu%252F%257Emgwillis% 252Fglobal.html%26size=13.9kB%26name=african%2Bpeo ple%2B2.jpg%26p=african%2Bpeople%2Bpics%26type=JPG %26oid=06fcda2e1f1c044e%26no=5%26tt=124,551%26sigr =11d1vvihm%26sigi=11j7eonh0%26sigb=138s14tv7)http://sp1.yt-thm-a03.yimg.com/image/25/f11/149715478</IMG> (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020sEvr1IrdQAWVyJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBpY2Y5NXN iBHBvcwM2BHNlYwNzcgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=1n1ve6uje/EXP=1220480900/**http%3A//images.search.yahoo.com/images/view%3Fback=http%253A%252F%252Fimages.search.yahoo .com%252Fsearch%252Fimages%253Fp%253Dafrican%252Bp eople%252Bpics%2526fr%253Dyfp-t-501%2526ei%253Dutf-8%2526vm%253Dr%2526js%253D1%2526x%253Dwrt%26w=333% 26h=500%26imgurl=static.flickr.com%252F89%252F2388 16030_9c00ef6efc.jpg%26rurl=http%253A%252F%252Fwww .flickr.com%252Fphotos%252Famenove%252F238816030%2 52F%26size=89.4kB%26name=IMG_3127%2B-%2BAfrican%2Bpeople%26p=african%2Bpeople%2Bpics%26 type=JPG%26oid=ac865924007061de%26fusr=amenove%26t it=IMG_3127%2B-%2BAfrican%2Bpeople%26hurl=http%253A%252F%252Fwww. flickr.com%252Fphotos%252Famenove%252F%26no=6%26tt =124,551%26sigr=11fa74dn9%26sigi=11dduljn3%26sigb= 138s14tv7%26sigh=115d1hhl8)

looking alike is one of your criteria of determining who's arab and who's african, yet ernie els is an african...born and raised yet he doesn't look like those other people of africa.

SID
09-02-2008, 06:37 PM
Ernie Els is a south african (dutch)...not black

Black Man
09-02-2008, 06:39 PM
didn't say he was black...he was born in africa...south africa is still part of africa right? born in africa, you're african according to the above

nice try lol

SID
09-02-2008, 06:44 PM
I dont mean from ethiopia as in everyone is from ethiopia, but they're from that area, the ethiopian somalian area, it's wierd to explain cause you're right, everyones from there, but they are too

their languages are all linked which is proof that they seperated at a later date then everyone else and some believe judaism started in ethiopia


but the sahara used to look like the tiny oasis that dot it only all the way throw and was mans original stomping grounds until it started deserting up, then alot of ppl when north(moors berbers) and alot when south (bantus-black ppl) and some stayed (tuaregs)

Ethiopia is the cradle of civilization, where all humans originated from..first there where black people, then the semetics - i also believe that zion is really ethiopia, and the first jews were from there.

As the original Jews (ethiopians) went north toward Palestine/Sinai they made contact with the established semetics who lived there..what happened after that is anyones guest..

SID
09-02-2008, 06:45 PM
didn't say he was black...he was born in africa...south africa is still part of africa right? born in africa, you're african according to the above

nice try lol

He is African in theory, in reality he is a dutch emigrant living in South Africa

Visionz
09-02-2008, 07:01 PM
an african is someone from africa. an arab is someone from what is now the middle east. they different because they two completely different races and they have different cultures. and they look different tooreally though color as it is thought of today doesn't exist, there's only humans with a varying range of phenotypes. Certain phenotypes are pretty much exclusive to certain regions which is the closest anyone can get to race but those phenotypes themselves exist on a very broad and sliding scale so where a person draws line from one beginning to one ending is arbitary. Basically a man-made concoction.

Mic Tyson
09-02-2008, 07:02 PM
by african i meant the ppl that were originally there, black people, not white settlers

Dale Clayton
09-02-2008, 07:08 PM
They're Africans too. Just like black people with German passports are Europeans.

Black Man
09-03-2008, 11:28 AM
an african is someone from africa. an arab is someone from what is now the middle east. they different because they two completely different races and they have different cultures. and they look different too

culture race and looks are three factors that seperate one person from the next?

Ernie Els is a south african (dutch)...not black

an african is someone from africa.

E. Els. Born Oct. 17, 1969 in Johannesburg, South Africa

Some people still don't know what nationality, ethnicity, culture, and race is.

Ethiopia is the cradle of civilization, where all humans originated from..first there where black people, then the semetics - i also believe that zion is really ethiopia, and the first jews were from there.

As the original Jews (ethiopians) went north toward Palestine/Sinai they made contact with the established semetics who lived there..what happened after that is anyones guest..

What do you mean by cradle of civilization?

Ethiopia has NO claim to being the cradle of civilization in any shape form or fashion.

The Hpy Valley Civilization pre-dates Ethiopia and the people of the Hpy Valley recognize a civilization that came before them!

He is African in theory, in reality he is a dutch emigrant living in South Africa

LOL....how is he a african in theory? What's the theory?

He was BORN there, he didn't migrate there lol.

Nationality, ethnicity, race, culture....learn what they are and what makes them different.

really though color as it is thought of today doesn't exist, there's only humans with a varying range of phenotypes. Certain phenotypes are pretty much exclusive to certain regions which is the closest anyone can get to race but those phenotypes themselves exist on a very broad and sliding scale so where a person draws line from one beginning to one ending is arbitary. Basically a man-made concoction.

How come those who call themselves white cannot produce the phenotype or genotype for that matter of those that white's classify as non-white?

What is a human exactly? Ins't that a "man made" connotation?

by african i meant the ppl that were originally there, black people, not white settlers

What are the qualification for the people that were originally there?

Like the middle east didn't always exist the same is applied to africa.

The Hpy Valley Civilization didn't call that continent Africa. Are they the original inhabitants of that land? They can't be because there was someone before them!

Ernie Els is NOT a settler!

What makes a person BLACK? What qualifies as being a black person?

Golden_Armz
09-03-2008, 11:56 AM
why dont some of you Americans get the f-k off your ass from watching NFL and browsing forums and actually visit these countries and speak with these people?

then it may open your mind a bit to the issue and you may find that America is the only place that is so obssesed with race.

Talk shows, elections, music, film....only America be so obssesed with race issues..

not even england which is more multicultural is so obssesed with this...

Visionz
09-03-2008, 12:10 PM
How come those who call themselves white cannot produce the phenotype or genotype for that matter of those that white's classify as non-white?

What is a human exactly? Ins't that a "man made" connotation?
Who calls themselves white? if you're referring to the people who have the least amount of melanin in their skin on the scale of all human phenotypes, what's been done can't be undone.

and human isn't a man made connotation, what other animal here on planet earth can humans cross-breed with to produce offspring? the scottish will tell you its definetly not sheep :)

Black Man
09-03-2008, 12:13 PM
why dont some of you Americans get the f-k off your ass from watching NFL and browsing forums and actually visit these countries and speak with these people?

then it may open your mind a bit to the issue and you may find that America is the only place that is so obssesed with race.

Talk shows, elections, music, film....only America be so obssesed with race issues..

not even england which is more multicultural is so obssesed with this...

funny you mention this.......because from what THEY say it's them who are obsessed with race...but what is race?

what makes a person obsessed with race?

is it because they talk about it?

maybe it's the person who goes out and tries to have surgery to change their race?

maybe its the people who fight tooth and nail to get some bleaching cream to change their race?

maybe it's the people who lay out in the sun trying to get darker...trying to change their race?

maybe it's the people who invest thousands of dollars to get darker in their own homes by buying tanning booths?

what did you say race was again?

Black Man
09-03-2008, 12:22 PM
Who calls themselves white?

THE PEOPLE WHO REFER TO THEMSELVES AS WHITE ARE THE PEOPLE I'M TALKING ABOUT....TOO MANY TO NAME.

if you're referring to the people who have the least amount of melanin in their skin on the scale of all human phenotypes, what's been done can't be undone.

WHAT DOES MELANIN HAVE TO DO WITH BEING WHITE?

IN THE ABOVE YOU SOUND LIKE YOUR SAYING THAT MAN MADE ANOTHER TYPE OF MAN...AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE CAN'T BE UNDONE.

and human isn't a man made connotation, what other animal here on planet earth can humans cross-breed with to produce offspring? the scottish will tell you its definetly not sheep :)

I GUESS IT WAS THE "ANIMALS" WHO MADE THE WORD.

ARE YOU AN ANIMAL?

Mic Tyson
09-03-2008, 01:59 PM
really though color as it is thought of today doesn't exist, there's only humans with a varying range of phenotypes. Certain phenotypes are pretty much exclusive to certain regions which is the closest anyone can get to race but those phenotypes themselves exist on a very broad and sliding scale so where a person draws line from one beginning to one ending is arbitary. Basically a man-made concoction.

i think its deeper than that, though. black people have different physical features than other races, as do white people, asians etc. hair, facial features, and size are different between races.

just look at an albino black person, like krondon. i knew his ass had to be black but his skin color is white because of albinism. if he was white he would be a weird ass lookin white dude.

Visionz
09-03-2008, 06:51 PM
i think its deeper than that, though. black people have different physical features than other races, as do white people, asians etc. hair, facial features, and size are different between races.

just look at an albino black person, like krondon. i knew his ass had to be black but his skin color is white because of albinism. if he was white he would be a weird ass lookin white dude.
everything you're listing though is a phenotype. A physilogical reaction over time to a given enviroment and there's always a range in the feature, skin tone is just one of those features, so while Krondon's albino his genetics aren't going to abandon all the other features that compositely make him who he is. But think about it when does a person stop being "black"? The question isn't an easy one to answer because race itself is a man-made construct.

Olive Oil Goombah
09-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Only in AMerica are things black and white....everywhere else it is not so. This is truly an american phenomon...NORTH american....actually, its a usa thing

Visionz
09-03-2008, 08:15 PM
Only in AMerica are things black and white....everywhere else it is not so. This is truly an american phenomon...NORTH american....actually, its a usa thing
what about south africa?

Olive Oil Goombah
09-03-2008, 08:17 PM
what about south africa?

ok let me rephrase that more eloquently and less stupidly....

...black and white is an english slave trading phenomenon mainly concentrated in the United States and South Africa.

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
09-03-2008, 08:48 PM
why dont some of you Americans get the f-k off your ass from watching NFL and browsing forums and actually visit these countries and speak with these people?

then it may open your mind a bit to the issue and you may find that America is the only place that is so obssesed with race.

Talk shows, elections, music, film....only America be so obssesed with race issues..

not even england which is more multicultural is so obssesed with this...

Dumbest shit I've heard in a while.

But I missed having functionally retarded Europeans tell Americans what WE should do.

HANZO
09-03-2008, 08:59 PM
Dumbest shit I've heard in a while.

But I missed having functionally retarded Europeans tell Americans what WE should do.

his just pointing out the fact that the whole 5% thing exists only in America. Europe has issues with race to, less with colour but more with cultural diversity. unlike America which seems to be all about colour.

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
09-03-2008, 09:16 PM
his just pointing out the fact that the whole 5% thing exists only in America. Europe has issues with race to, less with colour but more with cultural diversity. unlike America which seems to be all about colour.

I hope you guys aren't looking at Americans from this website are representative of the actual dynamic of our country.

And scientifically and genetically speaking, there is no such thing as "race". That's all made up by man, and it was round a long time before Americans. It is simply mixing ethnicity with skin tone.

For the purpose of this conversation, I will use the term "race" as a synonym for ethnicity, as that is basically what we are doing.

I am not saying that there are not race issues in America, because clearly there are. However, relatively speaking, the country is still very young, and slavery was not that long ago. That's the white and black thing. But really, most of the people here, regardless of race, really do get along. But that isn't news.

Technically speaking, different tribes are in Africa are different races, right? They all have differing physical characteristics and ancestry. Darfur, Rwanda, those races got along worse than we did.

What about Hitler? What about Bosnia?

One might argue that racially, America is a great deal ahead of Europe as well.

WU-KILLAH
09-03-2008, 09:53 PM
his just pointing out the fact that the whole 5% thing exists only in America. Europe has issues with race to, less with colour but more with cultural diversity. unlike America which seems to be all about colour.


and he's right... they are born, raised and educated with this mindframe, and most of them americans never steped a foot abroad or simply never met a foreigner, how do you want them to think outside the box ? anyway...
North africa is probably the most conquered place in the world ... Greeks then Carthaginians then Romans then Turkish then French then Arabs (to make it veeeery simple). Also, the affirmation according to what "Blacks" where there is still to be discussed.

LORD NOSE
09-03-2008, 10:21 PM
why dont some of you Americans get the f-k off your ass from watching NFL and browsing forums and actually visit these countries and speak with these people?

then it may open your mind a bit to the issue and you may find that America is the only place that is so obssesed with race.

Talk shows, elections, music, film....only America be so obssesed with race issues..

not even england which is more multicultural is so obssesed with this...


Americas race problem is Popular - other places have serious race problems also but were not exposed like america was exposed - example - the caste system in India - watch the documentary "Racism a History" - shows how racism is big in different parts of the world

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
09-03-2008, 10:57 PM
Americas race problem is Popular - other places have serious race problems also but were not exposed like america was exposed - example - the caste system in India - watch the documentary "Racism a History" - shows how racism is big in different parts of the world

Agree. I would go on to say that the fact that America's race problem is so exposed and so discussed is an indication of what relative freedom people do have, and at least a step in the right direction.

Visionz
09-03-2008, 11:39 PM
Agree. I would go on to say that the fact that America's race problem is so exposed and so discussed is an indication of what relative freedom people do have, and at least a step in the right direction.
it has to be worked through and it definitely helps to talk about it, there needs to be more action but you gotta start somewhere.

Black Man
09-04-2008, 09:05 AM
his just pointing out the fact that the whole 5% thing exists only in America. Europe has issues with race to, less with colour but more with cultural diversity. unlike America which seems to be all about colour.

how do you know this?

TSA
09-04-2008, 12:12 PM
the 5% thing doesn't really exist in america
only wucorp, i kid you not for all you foriegners

Mic Tyson
09-04-2008, 08:34 PM
the 5% thing doesn't really exist in america
only wucorp, i kid you not for all you foriegners

thata actually true, there aint that many 5ers and hardly anyone in america even knows who they are