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WU-KILLAH
09-10-2008, 10:55 AM
... the success of MGS4 ?????

I bought one mounth ago the PS3 with MGS in a bundle. I started the game for the first time two days ago, and I just can't believe the fuss that has been made about this boring piece of shit....
And Im not even talking about the cinematics (boring as fuck) that last for hours. Im talking about the gameplay. I've always enjoyed playing inf/tactical/or even FPS games, and this one is a strange mix of all this, badly blended. If only the AI where smart ... but, actually enemies are just a bunch of target moving around following a script. (damn that level where you have to shoot the FROGs reminded me of shooting pipes at the fair...) Well I understood that the best way to play it is to try to avoid the most possible gun fights. But if you play that way this game doesn't even come close to splinter cells, deus ex etc...
Or maybe it is the senario that makes people crazy about that game ???
I barely find anything positive to say about it... which desapoint me cause I was really excited to try a MGS for the first time

shaolinsword
09-11-2008, 07:38 AM
I haven't played MGS4 yet but you shouldn't have played this first. It's like jumping in the deep end of the pool without learning how to swim.

You should check out Metal Gear for the Playstation / Gamecube before trying any of the others

DR. NICK RIVIERA
09-11-2008, 08:26 AM
all the MGS games [the original 1-4] are classics of gaming or close.

RagnaroK
09-11-2008, 09:28 AM
i was hoping everybody ignore this piece of shit
he even dare to compare it with Splinter Cell PLEASE!! Sam Fisher ain't got nothing on Solid Snake nufsaid
calling the AI dumb cuz they following a scrip like every enemy on any game does!! is stupid
they are soldiers securing an area the follow routes thats how it's build you just need to know they routes and sneak without being seen thats the point of the game

maybe is that you just like action over tactical if thats the problem then you shouldn't even be touching MGS you could go on and kill everybody but it gonna be harder that way

and i specially hate when people criticize the cutscene MGS games got a complex story to tell thats why it takes a lot of time on the game cuz every individual got a background story which explain who they are, their reason to be, what happened before the game, how they are involve on the story and their purpose their goals on the story i find the cutscene more entertaining then anything else

Paranoid
09-11-2008, 01:41 PM
... the success of MGS4 ?????

I bought one mounth ago the PS3 with MGS in a bundle. I started the game for the first time two days ago, and I just can't believe the fuss that has been made about this boring piece of shit....
And Im not even talking about the cinematics (boring as fuck) that last for hours. Im talking about the gameplay. I've always enjoyed playing inf/tactical/or even FPS games, and this one is a strange mix of all this, badly blended. If only the AI where smart ... but, actually enemies are just a bunch of target moving around following a script. (damn that level where you have to shoot the FROGs reminded me of shooting pipes at the fair...) Well I understood that the best way to play it is to try to avoid the most possible gun fights. But if you play that way this game doesn't even come close to splinter cells, deus ex etc...
Or maybe it is the senario that makes people crazy about that game ???
I barely find anything positive to say about it... which desapoint me cause I was really excited to try a MGS for the first time

after reading your second sentence i decided to not read anymore

failed.

WU-KILLAH
09-11-2008, 03:05 PM
i was hoping everybody ignore this piece of shit
he even dare to compare it with Splinter Cell PLEASE!! Sam Fisher ain't got nothing on Solid Snake nufsaid
calling the AI dumb cuz they following a scrip like every enemy on any game does!! is stupid
they are soldiers securing an area the follow routes thats how it's build you just need to know they routes and sneak without being seen thats the point of the game

maybe is that you just like action over tactical if thats the problem then you shouldn't even be touching MGS you could go on and kill everybody but it gonna be harder that way

and i specially hate when people criticize the cutscene MGS games got a complex story to tell thats why it takes a lot of time on the game cuz every individual got a background story which explain who they are, their reason to be, what happened before the game, how they are involve on the story and their purpose their goals on the story i find the cutscene more entertaining then anything else

don't get mad kid, Kojima ain't your father right ?
I like tactical way more than action games, actually I always set them to the hardest level cause I like those games where when you get touched once you die, such as the first Rainbow 6s/Rogue Spears.
It is definitly to me the most overrated game ever. Once again go play Deus Ex to see what a good senario is. You don't need to give 3 hours classes about nanotechnology to make a senario complex and interesting.
And you didn't understand what I said about the AI, play the level in middle east against the FROGs squads, and you'll see what I mean when I say it's like shooting pipes at the fair, cause that's exactly what it is.
Anyway, to each is own, but never I've been that disppointed with a game. I don't even see what special with it.

Rame
09-11-2008, 04:34 PM
CoD4 all day.

Paranoid
09-11-2008, 05:58 PM
You can't compare Metal Gear Solid to a first person shooter

Its not the same at all

RagnaroK
09-11-2008, 06:01 PM
i played Splinter Cell(not Deus Ex) once didn't like it i saw my bro finishing the game but nothing made me to want to play it

MGS always have the best stories top graphics great gameplay great cutscene thou even fans criticize the length of them it never bothers me i find the story intriguing so i have no problem watching them and i don't see what is the problem you can skip them anyway one real criticism is that the gameplay is short and is true there are some other things that are good and bad like any game

Story Gameplay Graphics Cutscene Boss Fights great Characters Story Twist MGS got it all <<this is where the fuss is<<
but you seem to dislike the game strong point nothing will make you like it so i suggest trade in for another game

either you Love MGS or Hate it

Bg_Knocc_Out
09-11-2008, 06:09 PM
MGS is my favorite game series, it's hard to believe you don't like it, but if you don't, you don't.

WU-KILLAH
09-11-2008, 09:41 PM
i played Splinter Cell(not Deus Ex) once didn't like it i saw my bro finishing the game but nothing made me to want to play it

MGS always have the best stories top graphics great gameplay great cutscene thou even fans criticize the length of them it never bothers me i find the story intriguing so i have no problem watching them and i don't see what is the problem you can skip them anyway one real criticism is that the gameplay is short and is true there are some other things that are good and bad like any game

Story Gameplay Graphics Cutscene Boss Fights great Characters Story Twist MGS got it all <<this is where the fuss is<<
but you seem to dislike the game strong point nothing will make you like it so i suggest trade in for another game

either you Love MGS or Hate it


I agree concerning the boss fights, I've only played against the first one and that was the best moment in the game. It's getting better since I reached Europe level but I still don't see anything that justify how people are so crazy about it. I guess MGS4 has been made for fans and maybe I would enjoy it if I had played to the previous ones... Or maybe since I have played Deus Ex I expect way too much from video games now....
Seriously ... do you enjoy listening and reading all the discussions between snake and octacon on their videophone ????

Ritter
09-12-2008, 02:51 AM
CoD4 all day.

That's what's up.

DR. NICK RIVIERA
09-12-2008, 03:10 AM
just because u played Deus Ex that doesn't mean u can't enjoy other games - even Deus Ex isn't perfect [it is one of my fav. games tho]

But MGS is totally different and Splinter Cell wants to be the same, just more real, but it's so simplistic. MGS, one of the best series ever. Shame Deus Ex only has one great piece, the second is pure caca.

RagnaroK
09-12-2008, 12:49 PM
I agree concerning the boss fights, I've only played against the first one and that was the best moment in the game. It's getting better since I reached Europe level but I still don't see anything that justify how people are so crazy about it. I guess MGS4 has been made for fans and maybe I would enjoy it if I had played to the previous ones... Or maybe since I have played Deus Ex I expect way too much from video games now....
Seriously ... do you enjoy listening and reading all the discussions between snake and octacon on their videophone ????

its call "Codec" i skip some of them those that don't add much to story and some i already know what they say so no need like i said Metal Gear got a complex story so i watch the cutscenes and listen to the dialogues a couple of time just to understand it better

i finish the game 2 times already now im trying to reach "Big Boss Emblem" on The Boss Extreme Difficulty im on Europe Level too thats the least favorite level for me following that guy is too slow thou is a cool concept and the motorcycle scene is a bitch to pass on hard difficulties

11th Chamber
09-12-2008, 06:09 PM
always preferered the Splinter Cell series over MSG

oDoUoSoKo
09-13-2008, 11:10 AM
wow^^^

Splinter Cell is a half assed knock off of MGS

Rame
09-15-2008, 04:19 AM
You can't compare Metal Gear Solid to a first person shooter

Its not the same at all

Yet I did.

Longbongcilvaringz
09-15-2008, 09:32 AM
always preferered the Splinter Cell series over MSG

+1

WU-KILLAH
09-15-2008, 05:05 PM
After having finished it (max difficulty playable when you play for the first time) I would be less severe than in my initial statement...
I still think the ratio gameplay/cinematics is ridiculous. You really have the feeling you're watching a movie in which you're given sometimes the occasion to play. Actually the gameplay phases are just too short no matter the cinematics.
Some great moments (boss fight, all of them are classic, some cinematic scene that are amazing), but also all the weakness I won't repeat. A last thing that annoyed me: some scenes are really "too much" which make them ridiculous (Naomi's death for example)
I would give it 6/10

11th Chamber
09-15-2008, 05:28 PM
wow^^^

Splinter Cell is a half assed knock off of MGS

ok, cool, still your opinion, which I dont care about.