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TSA
10-27-2008, 11:59 PM
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name 1 better (and no, immortal technique is just above average)
idk who gave that jap a mic though

11th Chamber
10-28-2008, 12:03 AM
Gunz is fuckin sick, but he will most likely follow the path of Papoose and Saigon as just doing mixtapes and killing people on their own shit

Wayne got embarased by this kid on his shit, be wise by who u have as a feature

INF
10-28-2008, 12:04 AM
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THE MASON
10-28-2008, 12:07 AM
damn man makes a strong case that for sure

i laughed my ass off at the asian chick, she rippeed it lol i think

TSA
10-28-2008, 12:09 AM
all the BET ciphers were impressive, Hurricane Chris killed it as well lol!
the guy has a talent for freestyling even though Aye Bay Bay is gonna be perminately stamped on his head as the song to judge him by, which i dont have a problem with, all that money comes at a price
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ok nvm i overrated him. but he's still nasty

staliondan23
10-28-2008, 12:10 AM
I haven't heard much from him besides a few tracks and the BET cipher, but what i have heard has been quite impressive.

You might have heard this before, but this is the original "A Milli" song featuring Cory Gunz where his verse was cut out just before the release of the album. I assume its because he clearly outshined wayne. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxkso5ckb3I

War and Peace
10-28-2008, 12:15 AM
for one, i'm a better lyricist than corey gunz-

dude is dope-
a breath of fresh air as they say-

for real-

but the god War and Peace has lyrics for your next upliftment shaolin assassin-

peace fam-

THE MASON
10-28-2008, 12:17 AM
dope freestyle they all killed it

Q Tip was the best imo, hes one of the best lyricists

11th Chamber
10-28-2008, 12:17 AM
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hahahaha yea Cory took that track. I wasent at all shocked that his verse wasent on the retail version

TSA
10-28-2008, 12:19 AM
just incase your behind on him, a quick catch up.

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illest thing ever

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my favorite song by him


jFPRx0jTqzM
pretty new, he can do every MC trick at the same time....at the same time....

tical2000
10-28-2008, 12:37 AM
the best cypher was the one with ACE HOOD, JUELZ SANATANA, FABULOUS, and JADAKISS....

....I can't front all these dudes murdered this shit (why can't they rap like this on their albums?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWWhO6fqhfc

TSA
10-28-2008, 12:41 AM
albums are for teenage black girls, check mixtapes. Styles P has been dropping the best material of his career as of recent

11th Chamber
10-28-2008, 01:44 AM
I always liked this one

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Longbongcilvaringz
10-28-2008, 04:05 AM
haha, Corey Gunz.

Yeah, i've listened to some of his shit.

It's weak.

If you think he's the best lyricist alive, good for you.

I'll listen to an album if it ever comes out, but it probably won't, so i don't really give a shit about him.

Suga Duga
10-28-2008, 04:08 AM
for one, i'm a better lyricist than corey gunz-


say that again

TSA
10-28-2008, 08:08 AM
haha, Corey Gunz.

Yeah, i've listened to some of his shit.

It's weak.

If you think he's the best lyricist alive, good for you.

I'll listen to an album if it ever comes out, but it probably won't, so i don't really give a shit about him.
ya but you have to consider the fact that you're a faggot with aids, elohel.



this guy said Juicy is wack, Big Pun is wack, Biggie was wack, and Louis Logic was good party music.




but with gunnz im afraid he'll go the Papoose route. I really don't care about albums cause they're for pubescent black girls now, but i just hope he doesn't start making shitty songs like Papoose.

Longbongcilvaringz
10-28-2008, 08:23 AM
haha

I like Biggie.

I like Big Pun more.

But there are a lot of lyricists alive today who i think are better than this Gunzz character...

Not acceptable?

TSA
10-28-2008, 08:28 AM
you lost al credibility when you said Juicy was wack and Louis Logic was good party music (if you would have put Glee Club Final Banquet party music you would be fine).

you clearly have something against gunnz as a person being that, after spitting a very undeniable verse you e-laughed (which was a lie cause you weren't laughing in real life).













what im trying to get at is you're a faggot.

TSA
10-28-2008, 08:30 AM
for one, i'm a better lyricist than corey gunz-

dude is dope-
a breath of fresh air as they say-

for real-

but the god War and Peace has lyrics for your next upliftment shaolin assassin-

peace fam-
LOL yuo have 4 posts, there's no way you're a good rapper

Longbongcilvaringz
10-28-2008, 08:36 AM
[COLOR="PaleGreen"]you lost al credibility when you said Juicy was wack and Louis Logic was good party music (if you would have put Glee Club Final Banquet party music you would be fine).

you clearly have something against gunnz as a person being that, after spitting a very undeniable verse you e-laughed (which was a lie cause you weren't laughing in real life).

what im trying to get at is you're a faggot.



I wouldn't throw on any hip hop at a party.

I said Louis Logic made "funny" hip hop.

I live in Australia remember, i never had any hip hop 'cred'.

I have nothing against him at all, ive only listened to shit he's done through the youtubez.

He's above average, i just don't think he is the greatest lyricist alive personally.

Is this ok or not?

I don't understand the final part of your post.

GhettoGnom
10-28-2008, 10:38 AM
A lot of cats are better lyricists than Cory Gunz..
Louis Logic (since we're talking about him), Elzhi, Pharoahe Monch, Royce da 5'9", Jean Grae, Tonedeff, GZA and so on =)

INF
10-28-2008, 10:51 AM
Jxkso5ckb3I


hahahaha yea Cory took that track. I wasent at all shocked that his verse wasent on the retail version


fuckin nasty!

THE MASON
10-28-2008, 11:06 AM
the best cypher was the one with ACE HOOD, JUELZ SANATANA, FABULOUS, and JADAKISS....

....I can't front all these dudes murdered this shit (why can't they rap like this on their albums?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWWhO6fqhfc

Jada was the best one to even bless the mic in that vid.

All three rappers before all rapped about how they got swagger, god damn why wont they give that up, they nice emcees without havin to talk about that shit

Ritter
10-28-2008, 11:17 AM
LOL yuo have 4 posts, there's no way you're a good rapper

That's OTB, he made a new account, his old one got shut down or some shit, I don't know. And yea, he's a great lyricist, but I don't like to compare text rappers/lyricists to MC's.

Cory Gunz is nice, I can't front, but he's not the best lyricist alive. You have GZA still pulling heat, Canibus, Killah Priest. Q-Tip stil nice... And I won't go deeper into the underground, cuz I'll get booed for being a backpacker whose favorite rapper never moved multi-thousand units.

Anyway, these BET Ciphers are flames.

TSA
10-28-2008, 11:33 AM
^oh.

I would put Gnnz above Gza, and im not underrating Gza in the least bit, but it's a matter of the things Gza lacks being so heavy that it's hard to measure him to others cause what he does he's the undisputed best at, but for it he's sacrificed entertainment value, energy, delievery, presence, versitility and rhythm...and you have to remember we're on a wutang site, credible sources elsewhere wouldn't be so generous in rating him cause those are qualities that make or break rappers.

Cannibus is a good contender, but i can easily find song where Gunnz buries cannibus' best work, you can post the illest cannibus you have and an above average cory gunz verse would devour it (i welcome you to).

Cory Gunnz has better wordplay cadence, speed, delievery, versitility and flat out dopeness then Killah Priest, who im also not underrating but it's clear that gunnz would outshine him on any track that the two of them are put on together, you can post his illest material and i'll post something by cory gunnz that buries it.











anyways, i say he's the best alive at the moment cause all the ill ones have past their prime, on top of that he can do everything they do only with a complete 100% mastery of all MC tricks in the book and a rare ability to use them all at one time. He can be descriptive, unrealistically fast, complex, have insane cadance, multis, onomonopia(sp?) all in 1 line and often does to the point that you can only catch 10% of what's going on with his verses

the kids dangerous.

TSA
10-28-2008, 11:36 AM
Jada was the best one to even bless the mic in that vid.

All three rappers before all rapped about how they got swagger, god damn why wont they give that up, they nice emcees without havin to talk about that shit
how about not getting mad at what they're talking about and instead focus on the actual point: how they're talking about it.

Gza named his album after an instruction manuel, that's a way gayer subject then how cool you are, which is and has always been the foundation of lyricism and few venture from the subject, few.

Ritter
10-28-2008, 11:57 AM
^oh.

I would put Gnnz above Gza, and im not underrating Gza in the least bit, but it's a matter of the things Gza lacks being so heavy that it's hard to measure him to others cause what he does he's the undisputed best at, but for it he's sacrificed entertainment value, energy, delievery, presence, versitility and rhythm...and you have to remember we're on a wutang site, credible sources elsewhere wouldn't be so generous in rating him cause those are qualities that make or break rappers.

Cannibus is a good contender, but i can easily find song where Gunnz buries cannibus' best work, you can post the illest cannibus you have and an above average cory gunz verse would devour it (i welcome you to).

Cory Gunnz has better wordplay cadence, speed, delievery, versitility and flat out dopeness then Killah Priest, who im also not underrating but it's clear that gunnz would outshine him on any track that the two of them are put on together, you can post his illest material and i'll post something by cory gunnz that buries it.











anyways, i say he's the best alive at the moment cause all the ill ones have past their prime, on top of that he can do everything they do only with a complete 100% mastery of all MC tricks in the book and a rare ability to use them all at one time. He can be descriptive, unrealistically fast, complex, have insane cadance, multis, onomonopia(sp?) all in 1 line and often does to the point that you can only catch 10% of what's going on with his verses

the kids dangerous.

All good and credible points on which I can't front because I rank Killah Priest, Canibus & GZA as some of the greatest MC's of all time, yet I've heard 3-4 tracks by Cory.

Only thing I can do is to post 2 great Canibus verses since you welcomed me:

I'm the illest nigga alive, watch me prove it
I snatch your crown witcha head still attatched to it
Canibus is the type who'll fight for mics
Beatin niggaz to death and beatin dead niggaz to life
When you look at me long enough, I start to read your thoughts
if the signal was strong enough, and then I'll call your bluff
like, "Yo, how many rhymes you got?" I think I'll go on
for more Milleniums than Mazda's got on the car lot
And there's nowhere to run ta, when I confront ya
Nigga, I call your bluff like you had a phone number
Who wanna see Canibus get wild, who wanna act fly and
get shot down with a surface-to-air missile
I take em on in all shapes sizes and forms and spit on
anybody who ain't close enough to shit on
Zero to sixty? I'm already doin a hundred
when I'm blunted and I give it to any nigga that want it

---------------------------------------------------------

Yo, I plan to build a myself a facility before I'm 40
a molecular archceogenetic laboratory
that can analyze complex poetry data for me
even if it was recorded poorly, how extraordinary
I frog leap over awful beats
then I separate rappers by the carbon-14s
to determine the age of anything ever made
regardless of how the outside surface has changed
I put a curse on your name, bombard your brain
with gamma x-rays till you burst into flames
with the scientifically quantifiable megalomaniacal
viable style, it's like trying to ride a bull
let's have a dictionary duel after school
check into me a nice Cedar Sinai room
so I can get sick as the flu, spittin the truth
if you ain't got this album, you missing the proof
prepare for your doom my nuclear rocket plumes
glow against the pale background of the moon
toxic fumes spoil complete stocks of fruits, and foods
burning your flammable boxes and booms
got in the groove even though I'm not in the mood
motherfucker you didn't win 'cause I can't lose
give the fans the chance to choose, fuck you
who's the illest, who's it really up to
rapping fire, you better run for the pacifier
tie you up and drown you in the saliva quagmire
till your oxygen expires and your lungs dry up
'cause you said Bis ain't dope, you a damn liar
disaster for hire over beats by pious
flow like the Tigris, Euphrates, with the Eye of the Tiger
in my iris, Canibus is a fighter
motherfucker, my greatgrandfather was Irish
let's roll the dices, 'll break you like young Tyson
give me the mic man, I don't need no hype man
put a thousand on me, put one on him
i tear off his limbs, throw him in, and tell him to swim
yo I soak that shit and coat that shit in soy sauce
tell the FCC boss, turn that noise off
call Detroit's Mafia Boss
tell him yo, I got a job for you, I want you to bust his balls
Drop him off by Niagra Falls
write my name on a banana and put the banana between his jaws
nobody disrespects lyrical law
I'm the best there ever is and the best ever was
training like a grunt face down in the mud
with blood, sweat, and tears, sucking it up
yo, you wonder where I am right now
I'm probably somewhere on the microphone fucking it up
dead or alive, Canibus will live through the rhyme
to be the illest on the mic is a mission of mine
spittin' divine, you can't get it twisted this time
vocal with a mirror to make sure my lips are aligned
Dr C, PHD graduated from UMG
bright as the LCD display on a new MP
prototype of a true MC
with 3d topography maps you can't see
Butcher on Broad Street, wrapping CDs
in butcher paper, doing artwork with Sharpies
if you don't like the quality, then talk to me
what the fuck you on the website for you creep?
punching the keys, remember that sound
that's exactly what it sounds like when i'm punching your teeth
kick a rap, bitch, if you've got the gumption to speak
stand next to me, i might put a lump in your meat
diss you and your man, double the beef
to tell you the truth, I thought your rebuttal was weak
round the outside, blah, blah, etcetra, etcetra
the body of my literature is bigger than South America
nigga look, this is all I gots to say
suck my P-H-D-I-C-K

Bring me on Cory Gunz TSA.

Peace

THE MASON
10-28-2008, 12:03 PM
how about not getting mad at what they're talking about and instead focus on the actual point: how they're talking about it.

Gza named his album after an instruction manuel, that's a way gayer subject then how cool you are, which is and has always been the foundation of lyricism and few venture from the subject, few.

Ya protools isnt the greatest name for sho, still a dope album

i realize they all rocked the beat great flow, but you cant just look passed the content, that how you judge if there a good lyricist. Sure they can ride the beat and they can do that, but lyrically it the same shit i heard from all the main stream rappers, at least put some twists on it, like come up with a new word or something.

But i see what you mean TSA, you cant say GZA aint lyrical just cuz he named a cd after a recording program

Durag
10-28-2008, 12:05 PM
Hmm, greatest lyricist alive? i dont think so, but he seems to be one the best up and coming rappers, i havent heard much of his shit yet, so cant really comment, but im gonna check out a few of those mixtapes hes on.

Ghost In The 'Lac
10-28-2008, 12:10 PM
Yeah bt can he make a good song? I doubt it. Yes, he can spit big words very fast and stuff like that, but who really cares? I couldnt listen to him. Hes more like a freak show, he doesnt have any rhythem or style in his raps.

Longbongcilvaringz
10-28-2008, 12:12 PM
ha, you're such a fucking psychopath TSA.

Longbongcilvaringz
10-28-2008, 12:14 PM
"onomonopia"

hahaha

TSA
10-28-2008, 02:12 PM
you play a character online.
like, you talk one way in real life, and play a character online.
for people.

on top of that you have 0 credibility when it comes to rap and believe that Louis Logic gets parties jumpin, Juicy is wack, people only like Big Pun cause he's dead, Biggie is wack, and rapping with an australian accent isn't an abomination.


also, those last 2 posts had nothing to do with cory gunnz and i think you should make an independant thread for them.


there's a track with Gunnz featuring some guy and they go back and forth...the degreee of humiliation the guy suffered is real. too real

TSA
10-28-2008, 02:14 PM
All good and credible points on which I can't front because I rank Killah Priest, Canibus & GZA as some of the greatest MC's of all time, yet I've heard 3-4 tracks by Cory.

Only thing I can do is to post 2 great Canibus verses since you welcomed me:

I'm the illest nigga alive, watch me prove it
I snatch your crown witcha head still attatched to it
Canibus is the type who'll fight for mics
Beatin niggaz to death and beatin dead niggaz to life
When you look at me long enough, I start to read your thoughts
if the signal was strong enough, and then I'll call your bluff
like, "Yo, how many rhymes you got?" I think I'll go on
for more Milleniums than Mazda's got on the car lot
And there's nowhere to run ta, when I confront ya
Nigga, I call your bluff like you had a phone number
Who wanna see Canibus get wild, who wanna act fly and
get shot down with a surface-to-air missile
I take em on in all shapes sizes and forms and spit on
anybody who ain't close enough to shit on
Zero to sixty? I'm already doin a hundred
when I'm blunted and I give it to any nigga that want it

---------------------------------------------------------

Yo, I plan to build a myself a facility before I'm 40
a molecular archceogenetic laboratory
that can analyze complex poetry data for me
even if it was recorded poorly, how extraordinary
I frog leap over awful beats
then I separate rappers by the carbon-14s
to determine the age of anything ever made
regardless of how the outside surface has changed
I put a curse on your name, bombard your brain
with gamma x-rays till you burst into flames
with the scientifically quantifiable megalomaniacal
viable style, it's like trying to ride a bull
let's have a dictionary duel after school
check into me a nice Cedar Sinai room
so I can get sick as the flu, spittin the truth
if you ain't got this album, you missing the proof
prepare for your doom my nuclear rocket plumes
glow against the pale background of the moon
toxic fumes spoil complete stocks of fruits, and foods
burning your flammable boxes and booms
got in the groove even though I'm not in the mood
motherfucker you didn't win 'cause I can't lose
give the fans the chance to choose, fuck you
who's the illest, who's it really up to
rapping fire, you better run for the pacifier
tie you up and drown you in the saliva quagmire
till your oxygen expires and your lungs dry up
'cause you said Bis ain't dope, you a damn liar
disaster for hire over beats by pious
flow like the Tigris, Euphrates, with the Eye of the Tiger
in my iris, Canibus is a fighter
motherfucker, my greatgrandfather was Irish
let's roll the dices, 'll break you like young Tyson
give me the mic man, I don't need no hype man
put a thousand on me, put one on him
i tear off his limbs, throw him in, and tell him to swim
yo I soak that shit and coat that shit in soy sauce
tell the FCC boss, turn that noise off
call Detroit's Mafia Boss
tell him yo, I got a job for you, I want you to bust his balls
Drop him off by Niagra Falls
write my name on a banana and put the banana between his jaws
nobody disrespects lyrical law
I'm the best there ever is and the best ever was
training like a grunt face down in the mud
with blood, sweat, and tears, sucking it up
yo, you wonder where I am right now
I'm probably somewhere on the microphone fucking it up
dead or alive, Canibus will live through the rhyme
to be the illest on the mic is a mission of mine
spittin' divine, you can't get it twisted this time
vocal with a mirror to make sure my lips are aligned
Dr C, PHD graduated from UMG
bright as the LCD display on a new MP
prototype of a true MC
with 3d topography maps you can't see
Butcher on Broad Street, wrapping CDs
in butcher paper, doing artwork with Sharpies
if you don't like the quality, then talk to me
what the fuck you on the website for you creep?
punching the keys, remember that sound
that's exactly what it sounds like when i'm punching your teeth
kick a rap, bitch, if you've got the gumption to speak
stand next to me, i might put a lump in your meat
diss you and your man, double the beef
to tell you the truth, I thought your rebuttal was weak
round the outside, blah, blah, etcetra, etcetra
the body of my literature is bigger than South America
nigga look, this is all I gots to say
suck my P-H-D-I-C-K

Bring me on Cory Gunz TSA.

Peace

i wqill rebuttal after taking this test

TSA
10-28-2008, 04:44 PM
you already said your not about Text rappers, so post the song cause im too lazy to read that
uOe4rLAqJ0M

Rame
10-28-2008, 04:49 PM
He's just ok.

Ritter
10-28-2008, 05:39 PM
you already said your not about Text rappers, so post the song cause im too lazy to read that
uOe4rLAqJ0M

Alrite.

EMuDpffr_w0

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I'ma check that song out.

Ritter
10-28-2008, 05:43 PM
He's nice, can't front. But I still haven't heard enough to say he's better than 'Bus.

Rame
10-28-2008, 05:44 PM
LL won.

Ghost In The 'Lac
10-28-2008, 06:28 PM
Nas lost.

11th Chamber
10-28-2008, 06:36 PM
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Lol, everytime I hear that track I think of the D12 freestyle on Rap City

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the person who upped it fucked up Em's part

lol DJ Head is that dude, met him a while back

GreenPoop!
10-29-2008, 02:32 AM
He's nice. He rips "A Milli" twice.

Styles P
Jada
Royce
Elzhi

All have been killing it recently as well.

J-Cee
10-29-2008, 02:44 AM
yeh dudes dope as fuck in vid u posted no doubt about that..but wouldnt label him number one...

Guarded By Martyrs
10-29-2008, 01:31 PM
Canibus is light years ahead of Cory Gunz for a start.

But he does have talent no doubt...
He NEEDS an album or he will just fade away like others have mentioned already.

say that again

I have to admit...for content he is well in his right to say that...
But for technique (having never heard War and Peace spit) Cory Gunz is blessed.

LOL yuo have 4 posts, there's no way you're a good rapper

Errr...never mind.

LL won.

Poet Laureate II >>>>>>> LL

TSA
10-29-2008, 01:43 PM
Gunnz v. Cannibus is a debateable battle but they're so close it'll boil down to opinion.

like the fact i personally think Cannibus's voice is annoying and makes me not wanna listen to his songs in full.



tHIFby6r7bY
I knew a nigga who dreamed of flying boats
Then he drowned in deep thought cause they made his hope float.

GhettoGnom
10-29-2008, 02:32 PM
you already said your not about Text rappers, so post the song cause im too lazy to read that
uOe4rLAqJ0M

amvKD47kK9o

^Cory Gunnz can't touch that.

12weLvE
10-29-2008, 04:02 PM
Beat Battles going on right now!!!

http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=45

Tracks
10-29-2008, 04:07 PM
corey isnt bad at all, i like his shit, i hope if he ever drops an album he keeps the same sound, but i doubt it.

look what happened to cassidy, he could have been a great right about now.

Sgt Holly Wood
10-29-2008, 04:08 PM
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65675

TSA
10-30-2008, 12:17 AM
im not liking the suckiness of the majority of his songs though, and when a rapper is this dope you wanna here them be at max dopeness all the time and it isn't gonna happen, unless dealing with Pun

hide1998
10-30-2008, 03:04 AM
4pyD8-pmLhk
name 1 better (and no, immortal technique is just above average)
idk who gave that jap a mic though

Hime is an ill MC, much better than most in that cypher. If you could understand Japanese (and heard an actual album by her) you'd see that. Corey Gunz is good in a "punchline" kind of way, but I'm wondering if he can pull of concept, storytelling, abstract, raw, etc. tracks like well-rounded MCs have proven already to handle (like Hime). Since I have yet to hear him do an entire album, I can't comment on that. I guess none of us will know for sure until he drops one.

Ritter
10-30-2008, 08:01 AM
You may not like Bis' voice, but you can't front his voice is good on the tracks I posted.

Cory is ill though.

I mean, we could battle these MC's for days, in the end, taste decides the winner. whers and me think Canibus is one of the illest to have ever done it, the next cat may think Canibus is horrible. Because of his voice. Someone likes OutKast, someone thinks they are sellout clowns. It's all taste.

I won't hate on anyone for liking any specific rapper (except if it's TOASTFACED)