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food for thought
11-06-2008, 08:32 PM
so i googled his ass looking for a response about Obama and i found this shit below.


i will try and find proof its real


"I watched something necessary.
Something necessary for America to do to not follow the Roman Empire
in it's alienation of the people it conquered. African Americans were
brought here as slaves, lied to about their glorious past and fought
hard for every small victory and seemingly insignificant right taken
for granted nowadays.

I saw Black people in Harlem waving American
flags proudly, cheering USA. I saw cops shaking hands with niggaz from
the hood who hate cops. I saw white college students who have
gentrified harlem and the last of Harlem's bulk of Black residents
welcome them with open arms and dance in the streets because they were
wearing Obama buttons or carrying Obama posters. He truly is a
unifying force. He has changed the face of America, but now the
question remains can he change America? Can he stop the war? Or can he
just change it.

America has a new leader, to me personally I have
always seen race a great illusion to justify slavery and build the
capital for capitalism. His race is not as important as his design for
the economy, but those would think that we live in a post racial
America are blind and those who think that his minor experience will
prevent him from acting with all the force of the greatest military
power in the world will be surprised. His great power is in his
ability to listen and remember, to communicate and to inspire.
Today the history of the nation has taken a turn, but the road ahead is unclear."

--Immortal Technique

Senator C. Palantine
11-06-2008, 08:35 PM
oh, shit. What can he rap about now?

EAGLE EYE
11-06-2008, 08:40 PM
immortal technique will make a career change from an underground 'limited' rapper to becoming an underground blog-cee



He's gonna rock the most guerilla, rugged looking Word Press templates and literally-assassinate any opposing blogers rocking that faggity comic-sans font

THE W
11-06-2008, 08:43 PM
why wouldnt he be able to rap about anything now that a non-white guy is president?

Senator C. Palantine
11-06-2008, 08:45 PM
I dont know.

I didn't really think my post through.

Your post has made me do that.

I now realise the error of my ways.

I will now consider my posts and depose of my flippant ways.

Thank You Wade.

food for thought
11-06-2008, 08:46 PM
why wouldnt he be able to rap about anything now that a non-white guy is president?

i know, right. i guess everything is ok now or something? i missed the memo

HANZO
11-06-2008, 08:47 PM
Immortal Technique is finally at peace..

food for thought
11-06-2008, 08:48 PM
by the way, HE GOT A LONG ASS BLOG ON HIS MYSPACE FROM WHICH THE ABOVE STATEMENT WAS TAKEN FROM, if im not mistaken.

so yall should read up over there too or something. bring it over here.

Senator C. Palantine
11-06-2008, 08:50 PM
Immortal Technique is finally at peace..


hahaha

EAGLE EYE
11-06-2008, 08:51 PM
by the way, HE GOT A LONG ASS BLOG ON HIS MYSPACE FROM WHICH THE ABOVE STATEMENT WAS TAKEN FROM, if im not mistaken.

so yall should read up over there too or something. bring it over here.



if you didnt do things half assed you coulda posted all of it!


instead your thoughts are full of forbidden fruits, like the rotting fruit of skampoes wifeys puss cavity

THE W
11-06-2008, 09:01 PM
here's the whole thing:



I watched something necessary the other night, necessary for the legitimacy of America and it's interests around the world. Necessary for it's religion of capitalism and it's imperial ambition, which were not curbed in anyway with the election of an African American. Instead they gained perhaps the greatest spokesperson for their cause that they could have ever received. People that never felt inclusive now feel like part of America, like they have a personal stake in its success and for people that truly love this country, isn't that what you wanted? To have more people who live here proud of being an American? For many people Bush was never their president, to them he stole the first election and railroaded the second one with mired swift boat attacks on John Kerry's character while dodging facts about the mischaracterization of Iraq as somehow being involved in 9/11 and how the intelligence that led us to war was so badly distorted. Some surrogates even went as far as to suggest that Mr.Kerry might have inflicted the wounds on himself in Vietnam to receive a Purple Heart…

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JoM90bAsr1M (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vdWsueW91dHViZS5jb20vd2F0Y2g/dj1Kb005MGJBc3IxTQ==)

The same smear tactics were used all throughout this election, the same fear mongering and questions brought about Obama's faith, place of birth and his "relationship with terrorists." This cost the McCain campaign and it's supporters, opportunity and legitimacy about their complaints of the future 44th President. They went beyond the simple implications of the Clinton campaign deep into the territory of arousing the fear and hatred ingrained in the minds of white citizens all over America. And yet they were denied yesterday for good reason. The mob would not have tolerated it. His victory was a restoration of the crumbling belief in our democracy, because the loss of faith; that, my brother's and sisters is how empire's fall, not from simple military failure but when their people no longer believe in it. During the last few years of Bush, this is what I saw. I cannot answer if there would have been rioting would he have not won, but his ascension to the Commander in Chief has made a strong case for the people's choice being what and who control's America. When in truth the strength and power of Military Industry and Corporate Conglomerates saw more of a champion than any urban working class citizen could have, in Obama.

Through careful planning, timed responses, tactful alienation and one of the best organized campaigns, at long last the people of America have a man that they WANT to believe in, a man they can point to as an example of the death of racism, the birth of hope and the inclusion of member's of disaffected society in the United States. But is this to be?

Michelle Obama was right when she talked about feeling proud to be an American for the first time. And white conservatives took it out of context. They assumed that the Black and Latino community who have had the right to vote for the past 40 of the 221 years of this countries existence should kneel and kiss the ground of a land that is only now acknowledging their service and contribution. Truthfully I am more inspired by her words than most of his. And, I am reinforced in my understanding that a man (especially one that aspires to achieve anything significant) without the right woman to support him and offer him guidance will never amount anything. Her words were prophetic for they truly did speak to the manner in which urban Black and Latino people have embraced the USA.

As I said before this was necessary for America to do… To not follow in the footsteps of the Roman Empire in its alienation of the people's that it conquered. Their great mistake was NOT to include their allies and offer them the benefits of citizenships and partaking in the glory of what the empire gained as a reward for assimilation. Africans were on this side of the world before Columbus, but in US history they were brought as slaves, kept subservient through a Europeanized Christendom, and lied to about their glorious past, and their contributions to the history of humanity. After all it was Africans who comprised the power ranks of the early church, Africans who nursed the philosophy of the ancient Greeks and African Muslims who ruled Western Europe for over 700 years, that's more than 3 times as long as the United States has existed as a country.

They are a people who have fought hard for every small victory and seemingly insignificant right taken for granted nowadays. They fought and died in every major US war going to back to the very founding of this nation when Crispus Attucks was the first person to ever die for American Freedom from British Imperial rule. Yet every time they proved their bravery and willingness to lay down their lives for the nation of their captivity, subsequent birth and allegiance to, they were denied the honor of a well-deserved recognition. They were denied loans, given substandard housing, redlined into the ghetto, had their communities filled with drugs and their addictions criminalized whereas the upper class of white society had theirs treated as an illness. Africans have had their commitment to family and values overlooked by a media highlighting of the worst sections of society. The Black family did not fall apart until the crack era, for even during the times of slavery, it came together with more strength than ever! Because there were sisters who were looking after children who weren't theirs and brothers who played the father when their father's were sold off and gone.

Black people for all intents and purposes have a right to have certain cynicisms and grievances with America. Perhaps not as much as Native Americans but they wouldn't be the only ethnic group in the world to have a difficult relationship with the nation they live in. After all the world's nations are actually comprised of many nations most of which are included by right of conquest and not willing consent.

And yet November 4th I saw Black people in Harlem waving American flags proudly and loudly. I saw them painted red white and blue, chanting and cheering "USA, USA". I saw cops shaking hands with brothers from the hood who hate cops. I saw white college students who have gentrified Harlem and the last of Harlem's bulk of Black residents welcome them with open arms dancing in the streets because they were wearing Obama buttons or carrying Obama posters. He truly is a unifying force. He has changed the FACE of America, but now the question remains can he actually change America? Can he stop the war? Or can he just change it.

America has a new leader. To me personally I have always seen race a great illusion to justify slavery and build the capital for capitalism. His race is not as important as his design for the economy. But those who would think that we live in a post racial America are blind, and those who think that his minor experience will prevent him from acting with all the force of the greatest military power in the world will be surprised. His great strength is in his ability to listen and remember, to communicate and to inspire. To convince and to come up with the best explanation possible instead of perhaps some of the worst excuses for leadership, rationale for war and political nepotism that we have seen in America's history during Bush II.

But his victory, he was right to say was not his victory alone, it was also the resounding failure of the Right Wing Republicans. So much so that it seems as if people from the very onset on the right might have aided McCain's downfall to have the president they thought would be better for business in the neo liberal world of globalization.

McCain lost this election for many reasons though.

-McBush: His inability to distance and separate himself from George Bush and the fiscal crisis that came as result of economic policies of the 43rd president's administration. His pathetic attempt to make the difference known at the end of the 3rd presidential debate was too little, way too late.

-The "Right" Enemies: A person is often judged by their enemies, McCain lost to Obama because of his inability to curb what was first seen as the fringe of his party and eventually came to be seen as a significant % of the base. In some videos you can even see his own surprised and disturbed reaction to what his supporters believed. The rallies became more and more about hatred and not any issues of real consequences. I know Christians and Right Wingers that are logical independent voters and when they saw the Republican base questioning him being a Muslim (as if that was a crime), an antichrist, a socialist, and screaming out "terrorist", even the many of which had planned to back McCain/Palin were disgusted.

They looked at their own party as if to say I can't really believe that you're doing this to us now. If I were Obama I would have not feared these people, I would have engineered these people, and right now I would thank God for them. They cost McCain the election. Any rational debate that true fiscal and family values conservatives would have had were mixed in the same bag as these people.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWahLTdUo (http://blog.myspace.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWahLTdUo)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl2EndLZv7w (http://blog.myspace.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl2EndLZv7w)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E (http://blog.myspace.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E)

I would like to personally thank these idiots should they ever muster the courage to actually leave their Petri dish rural environment.

-The Palin Factor: Like I said, I know a few conservatives, most of them aren't religious zealots (although I do have some family like that) and they told me that in good conscious they couldn't vote for their ticket. The right wing talking points said that Obama and Palin had the same amount of experience. To which a Military officer who is a friend of mine snidely but honestly from the bottom of his war hardened heart responded, "experience being the same, she's incapable of answering a straight question, she's incompetent, she can't stand up to Putin or anyone else. I voted Obama." Truly her champions were people who cheered during the procession of The Emperor's new clothes. She was no Hillary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9bm9rVG pFZGFVR2c=)

Smart move old friend...

Right Wing Defectors: Colin Powell put the nail in McCain's coffin for all Republicans who were creatures of logic over blind faith. He spoke for those who wanted understanding about the real issue, the economy. McCain choose to focus on Ayers and other old professors instead. He lacked vision, thinking his party could influence the moderates and the independents with this. Instead Scott McClellan, Christopher Buckley, etc… became a testament to Obama being able to win over not just working class whites, but conservative whites, which he proved to be able to do in the home stretch.

http://tips.webdesign10.com/politics/more-conservatives-back-obama-346.html

Duh, Economy: These are all compelling arguments, but none of them more of a resounding factor than the economy. Which McCain avoided!!! Had McCain chosen for example Mitt Romney as VP this race would have been much closer in some key states. Here was a well-spoken, respected and successful businessman. He was the most well known Republican after McCain. He made millions from his business, he understood the crisis from a definitively fiscal Republican base, and would have won independents who found no answers in the 2008 GOP ticket. Instead the economy became the blow that McCain/Palin never recovered from.

But what does this all mean?

Is the Revolution over? Hardly. Are the world's problems solved, not at all. Is Mumia going to get out of jail? I hope Mr.Obama looks into that but I bet it's not high on his list. The threat of terrorism isn't over nor is the threat of preemptive strikes. Should people of color now sign up for the Military now that the president looks like someone in their family? Stop it.

In order for Mr. Obama to have become America's president, he had to back Israel 100%, not mention of the suffering of Palestinians, so the Middle East will not change drastically. Rahm Emanuel whose father was a soldier in the Zionist paramilitary organization called "Irgun" was recently selected as his Chief of Staff. I reserve my judgment and approach with an open mind so as to not give into hypocrisy because a man is not always his father. I just hope Obama can inject different opinions as well as his powerful logic into that conversation. I hope he will normalize relations with Cuba, for the sake of everyone who has family they cannot see, but in order to win Florida he had to change his tone about it. He will not investigate 9/11 although I think that now that he has the power do to so he should not be afraid to use it. I hope he will look into that and into the origin of the faulty intelligence that led us into Iraq. He will be everyone's president, but the majority of white America doesn't see Malcolm X the way I do, nor did they see the Black panthers as freedom fighters, they saw them as terrorists, are we to give up our history and whitewash our heroes and praise those who kept us subservient because of this victory?

Racism hasn't disappeared and you can always tell a racist/ignorant person by their notion that because Obama is president that we live in a post racial America. It is a sign of progress, it is a great triumph for all people, (after all we forget Barack is half white too.) It is very inspirational, but inspiration alone doesn't complete a crusade.

I am sometimes accused of being too serious, which fools mistake for negativity. No I just understand that now the idea of Reparations for Blacks in America will be completely off the table. The powerful will remain powerful, the rich will stay rich and we gain advancement only in serving other's causes that we then accept as our own. He cannot change the past but he can change the future, and this more than anything is what I, and others are hoping he will be able to do expeditiously.

After all he only has 18 months from the time he is elected, until the next congressional election really gets into the swing of things, and Congress turn to the their own races. He will need to act quickly.

The price of having hope is sometimes disappointment, but the price of having no hope is always failure… That said I have a few main concerns for America's new Caesar: Repairing, regulating and reforming the economy, Healthcare for all the people of the richest country in the world. Bringing logic and reason to the war on terror and "war on drugs". And lastly the reason that many Latinos and Indigenous people voted for him and delivered in key battleground states. Stopping the criminalization of hardworking immigrants upon whose backs our great nation is built.

I am just a man, one of 300 million, and though my support base is massive, one of the largest in the underground. I know Mr.Obama will never read this. But I have hope for the future and any change from the last 8 years of this record gas price, record home foreclosure, record incompetence (Katrina & Bin Laden's 8 yr holiday) government is a good start to me. My cup of hope is full, but I sip it slowly, because hope is a powerful drug.

Remember, all politics is local, our job hasn't ended with the election it has just begun.


Que Viva La Revolucion,


Immortal
Technique

food for thought
11-06-2008, 09:04 PM
lol there u go

EAGLE EYE
11-06-2008, 09:15 PM
good sport.



i'll read that on a rainy week

food for thought
11-06-2008, 09:18 PM
i know thats why i aint post all of it.

that shit is long as fuck, aint nobody gonna read it. unless they get no pussy.

THE W
11-06-2008, 09:25 PM
never knew having sex diminished your attention span.

never seemed to bother me.

food for thought
11-06-2008, 09:28 PM
dont get mad cause u pasted the WHOLE damn thing. lol. your cool man.

some ppl might read what hes got to say

Olive Oil Goombah
11-06-2008, 10:36 PM
immortal technique is a racist like his fan food for thought.

EAGLE EYE
11-06-2008, 10:37 PM
hes also a thief of joy and he smells like 2 day old chop suey. real talk.

Olive Oil Goombah
11-06-2008, 10:42 PM
no doubt

Dokuro
11-06-2008, 10:49 PM
wow he took it easy then i thought he would but its a mater of time before he gets made at the supremest obama




look right now i dont hate him just i dont like him that much i dont think his good for the country so fuck him

Olive Oil Goombah
11-06-2008, 10:52 PM
its only a matter of time before someone questions Obamas 'blackness' or says he aint black enough.

food for thought
11-06-2008, 11:11 PM
already happened einstein

Olive Oil Goombah
11-06-2008, 11:13 PM
ya see. I'm always right, even in hindsight. Thats how you KNOW your in the presence of a JOKER.

Prolifical ENG
11-06-2008, 11:45 PM
"Immortal Technique responds to Obama victory"

This will probably be the last we will hear from him unless repulicans win in another 4 years...that will be his time to shine and go mainstream.

DJMethods
11-07-2008, 01:20 AM
He makes sense and has some wise words for the wicked devs.

food for thought
11-07-2008, 01:39 AM
cosign

Longbongcilvaringz
11-07-2008, 02:22 AM
You listen to IT albums, and i can't comment on his recent material, and his subject material isn't real specific enough to just evaporate with Obama's election.

I know people are trying to be funny by saying his career is over, but yeah, Obama being president to me will have little to no impact on the legitimacy of his subject material (whether it is legitimate or not, is another matter).

He says some interesting things sometimes, and he says some ridiculous things sometimes.

DJMethods
11-07-2008, 02:27 AM
You listen to IT albums, and i can't comment on his recent material, and his subject material isn't real specific enough to just evaporate with Obama's election.

I know people are trying to be funny by saying his career is over, but yeah, Obama being president to me will have little to no impact on the legitimacy of his subject material (whether it is legitimate or not, is another matter).

He says some interesting things sometimes, and he says some ridiculous things sometimes.



3rd World is his best album to date. You're fuckin nuts, download it.

Ritter
11-07-2008, 04:04 AM
My fav song from him has nothing to do with politics.

"You Never Know"

TSA
11-07-2008, 10:20 AM
He's gonna start making swag rap on Southern Slang Mixtapes.
watch. He's has no choice.