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LetsGetFree
09-02-2005, 01:35 PM
Hurricane Katrina And Capitalism: A Disaster In The Making
Statement By The Free People's Movement

On August 29, 2005, Katrina, one of the most powerful hurricanes in history, slammed into the coast of the South Eastern United States, washing away entire towns in Mississippi and destroying much of New Orleans.

No one knows how many people have died in this disaster, but estimates range from hundreds to even thousands, and up to one million have been left homeless.

The toxic water, which is flooding the streets of New Orleans, is a mixture of garbage, raw sewage, gasoline and other petroleum products from nearby oil refineries, thousands of corpses--of those who died in the hurricane as well as those washed out of the cemeteries, and poisonous chemicals from the many chemical plants in the region (more per square mile than in any other region in the U.S.). The effects of this will likely be felt by the people and environment of the area for years to come.

Tens, possibly hundreds of thousands are stranded on rooftops and in attacks. The “relief” effort has proven to be too little, too late. “We are out here like pure animals,” cried a survivor, “We don't have help."

In response to the increasingly desperate survivors’ appropriations of food and water, the government has proclaimed a defacto martial law, with soldiers and police enforcing a “shoot to kill” policy. The entire area has descended into chaos.

Although hurricanes cannot be prevented, catastrophic results like these can.

Cuba, a socialist country which is organized to meet human needs, has shown that it’s possible to carry out large scale evacuations with very little resources. Less then two months ago, 1.7 million people were evacuated on short notice in preparation for Hurricane Dennis.

In Cuba, both the pickup and delivery of people for evacuations is organized well in advance. The population is well educated about hurricanes, and they know where to go (and how to get there) in emergency situations.

The country’s leaders and knowledgeable meteorologists take charge, going on television and keeping the population informed. In case of power outages, there are special messengers who communicate evacuation plans to each area.

People go door to door to inform everyone of upcoming evacuations, and return to let them know when they have begun.

All shelters are staffed with medical personnel and family doctors evacuate along with their neighborhoods, knowing who needs special medicines (such as diabetics and asthmatics) and bringing them along in sufficient quantities. Veterinarians evacuate animals and items such as televisions and refrigerators are brought along so that people don’t stay behind in attempts to protect them.

If all else fails, people can be evacuated to high schools in the countryside which contain built-in dormitories.

Because of measures like these, made possible by Cuba’s social revolution, the last category 4 hurricane to hit Cuba left only 16 dead – the highest death toll in forty-one years(!) in an island constantly bombarded by hurricanes.

But in the U.S., a capitalist country where profit rules over people, evacuations like these are not only not planned for, they are in fact blocked!

Airlines stopped flights to New Orleans twenty-four hours before they had to, only because it wouldn’t have been profitable to fly airplanes with no passengers on them.

Commercial buses have lined up on Interstate 10 of the city, refusing to evacuate people with no money. “It’s like they’re punishing us,” said one 52-year-old survivor.

The U.S. government, which has spent hundreds of billions of dollars on a war based on lies, didn’t spend a single penny evacuating a city directly in the path of one of the worst hurricanes in history – even though they knew it was coming days in advance!

The levees, built to protect the city from disasters like this one, were not maintained before the hurricane hit and couldn’t hold up to the impact of the water and wind. As a direct result of the funding of the Iraq war and Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy, many U.S. Army Corps of Engineers requests for hurricane protection projects have been cut back or delayed since 2001.

As the Chicago Tribune reported, “Despite continuous warnings that a catastrophic hurricane could hit New Orleans, the Bush administration and Congress in recent years have repeatedly cut funding for hurricane preparation and flood control. The cuts have delayed construction of levees around the city and stymied an ambitious project to improve drainage in New Orleans' neighborhoods.”

At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane and flood-control dollars.

The corporate controlled media has portrayed victims of the hurricane, who are struggling to survive, as “looters” and “miscreants.” The media coverage has also revealed the deep rooted racism that prevails in this society – White survivors are portrayed as ‘refugees’ who ‘find’ food and other supplies while Blacks are demonized and depicted as savage criminals. The results of slavery, Jim Crow segregation laws, and the ongoing oppression of Blacks and other minorities has been brought to the front.

The truth is, these survivors are taking food, water, dry clothing, and other items because they need them survive -- they have been abandoned and have no other choice!

So what has been the response of the government?

Louisiana’s governor has called for a day of prayer when she should have been working to meet the needs of the hurricanes victims!

Federal Emergency Management Director Michael Brown went as far as placing the blame on the victims themselves, saying “I think the death toll may go into the thousands and that's going to be attributable a lot to people who did not heed the advance warnings [to leave].”

The reality of the situation is that the over 100,000 people that remained in New Orleans and the surrounding areas hit by the hurricane didn’t have the financial means to leave! As a survivor told reporters, “that’s a crime, and people are angry about it!”

People are angry, and for good reason. But instead of attempting to relieve their anger by doing what should have been done in the first place, the emphasis of the government is being placed on stopping the “looting” and “lawlessness” of the hurricane victims!

President Bush, taking a break from his long vacation, urged a “crackdown,” saying “I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law, and I’ve made that clear to our attorney general.”

Thousands of troops, “fresh back from Iraq,” have been sent to New Orleans and thousands more are on the way. “These are some of the 40,000 extra troops that I have demanded," said Louisiana’s governor (the same person who called for a day of prayer), as she went on to threaten the hurricane victims, "They have M-16s, and they're locked and loaded ... I have one message for these hoodlums: These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so if necessary, and I expect they will."

U.S. Coast Guard rescue missions have been suspended, and boat rescue teams looking for Katrina survivors have been ordered to stand down by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

New Orleans Mayor Nagin ordered the police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts and focus on stopping the “criminals.”

Police officers armed with shotguns are standing outside of hotels to keep out refugees looking for food, water, and shelter, while snipers are stationed on police station rooftops to “protect” private property. Officers attempted to keep camera crews from filming their actions under the pretense that the streets were “too dangerous.”

Police from Texas, Arkansas, Kentucky, and as far away as Michigan are being called in to “bring order back to the streets.” Of course, no one was called in to help with evacuativon or relief efforts earlier.

This disaster, and the government’s response to it, have shown unequivocally that the people of New Orleans and the other areas hit by Hurricane Katrina are not only victims of a natural disaster, they are victims of the capitalist system – a ruthless system based on the exploitation of the majority of humanity for the benefit of the few, in which private property and profit are considered more important than human life.

This did not have to happen this way, and it doesn’t have to ever happen again! A much better world for all of us is possible! Now, more than ever, we must push onward to a socialist revolution to liberate all of humanity!

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I think it's important to relate to as many people as possible the root causes of all of this, and so I think we should try to get this message, and ones like it, in front as many people as possible, in blogs, emails, forums, etc.

Link To Original Story: http://freepeoplesmovement.org/fp14a.html

maestro wooz
09-02-2005, 01:41 PM
oh fuck off

Bedlam
09-02-2005, 01:43 PM
Thats fucked up shit, blocking people from evacutating.


This did not have to happen this way, and it doesn’t have to ever happen again! A much better world for all of us is possible! Now, more than ever, we must push onward to a socialist revolution to liberate all of humanity!
^That was unnecessary though

Idiom
09-02-2005, 01:55 PM
i say aLL the looters that are taking unnessessary things should be shot
and them farQin' who'dlums who are shooting at the military and police
should get bombed or have helicopters drop razors over them

that would be cool

OmO < Idiom

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
09-02-2005, 02:53 PM
Chaos only creates more Chaos

ballistic
09-02-2005, 03:35 PM
...the fuck?! that type of shit really pisses me off...unbelievable!
God bless our government because they have plenty coming back to them after allowing such atrocities to go on, and condoning it!
prayers out to all those people in N.O., just fighting to survive! the hell with secretaries of such and such, do what you have to do stay alive, within the bounds of sanity...

born invincible
09-02-2005, 03:38 PM
ummm i read like the first 2 paragraphs... way too much to read. can anyone summarize in a few sentences what that whole thing said. by the looks of it, it appears that its another bash at the american goverment..

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
09-02-2005, 03:40 PM
ok this is my view on it, after gathering all facts on this situation

I realize some of you may not know this.....but alot of the flooding and other damage could have easily been prevented from this hurricane. It's messed up but a lot of the damage could have been prevented back in 1995. They've always known that a hurricane would basically wipe out N.O., this was no suprise. The city asked that the government helped them replace the leveys with concrete barriers. In 2001 FEMA asked for money to fix the leveys but Bush deemed it not important enough and last year the Army Corps of engineers asked for money to fix it and in turn the Bush Administration cut their budget......so basically since 2001 Bush cut the bugdet to protect N.O. by 44% and now the city sits like Atlantis because of it....think why he did it....

payback......

You think Bush forgot that only 14% of the African-American Men in Louisiana voted for him? He didn't forget that only 9% of African-American's voted for him? And he'll never forget that 39% of the people making under $15,000 a year didn't vote for him. He's never going to forget that New Orleans only gave him 45% of the vote.

There are so many factors behind this it's disturbing....

think about this too

Notice how news reporters are calling people stealing stuff to survive "looting". That is not looting.

Looting is when the community is in full operation and the people decided uprise and decide to take everything that's not nailed down. These people are trying to survive in a wasteland.

Is it really neccessary for every solider to hold a M-16? Do you know that there has been a order for soldiers to shoot to kill now? I mean, if you're trying to help me, why do you have to KILL ME?

Its funny how the US ran to help the Tsumami victims, but can't even help itself........

the whole thing disgusts me.......I don't know but I think this is the beginning of something....

Idiom
09-02-2005, 04:01 PM
You think Bush forgot that only 14% of the African-American Men in Louisiana voted for him? He didn't forget that only 9% of African-American's voted for him? And he'll never forget that 39% of the people making under $15,000 a year didn't vote for him. He's never going to forget that New Orleans only gave him 45% of the vote.

get the fuck outta here
i aint a bush fan neither but you're turning tihat shit like he's racist

those levee's should have been fixed back in 69'
don't blame one man when you had plenty before em

that's a fact jack

OmO < Idiom

maestro wooz
09-02-2005, 04:01 PM
ummm i read like the first 2 paragraphs... way too much to read. can anyone summarize in a few sentences what that whole thing said. by the looks of it, it appears that its another bash at the american goverment..

same old same old, us government=evil, bush=white devil, capitalism is wrong so become socialist

born invincible
09-02-2005, 04:14 PM
same old same old, us government=evil, bush=white devil, capitalism is wrong so become socialist
thnx... pretty much what i figured.. im the first to say we aint perfect but it seems we always get the finger pointed at us for being so bad!!! boo fuckin hoo!! ive been to 3rd world countries and ive seen first hand things people so often take for granted...

on topic tho... im sure alot of this could have been prevented, but we are too busy making war!!!:)9:(

stayshigh
09-02-2005, 07:52 PM
thnx... pretty much what i figured.. im the first to say we aint perfect but it seems we always get the finger pointed at us for being so bad!!! boo fuckin hoo!! ive been to 3rd world countries and ive seen first hand things people so often take for granted...

on topic tho... im sure alot of this could have been prevented, but we are too busy making war!!!:)9:(


FUCK OFF to the both of you(yeah, I said It), read before you comment.

It is so easy to talk shit when your sitting in front of your PC but I wonder how you would react if some real shit happened to you?


More on the "Looters":
Crackdown on looting New Orleans police ordered to stop saving lives and start saving property

WSWS | September 1 2005 (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/sep2005/loot-s01.shtml)

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin ordered nearly the entire active police force in the flood-ravaged city to abandon rescue operations Wednesday night and focus on efforts to halt looting. The decision came in response to mounting pressure from sensationalized media coverage which is increasingly placing emphasis on the property damage done by looters, suggesting that it has become nearly as significant a social problem as the virtual destruction of the city by Hurricane Katrina.

Nagin said that looters “are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas—hotels, hospitals, and we’re going to stop it right now.” He assigned 1,500 police to anti-looting duty. The Associated Press reported, “The number of officers called off the search-and-rescue mission amounts to virtually the entire police force in New Orleans.”

The order came only hours after Nagin warned that the death toll in New Orleans might rise to the “thousands” once the bodies of those trapped in their homes by the flood waters begin to be recovered. Thousands of people have been rescued from rooftops and attics over the past two days, but efforts to save other survivors will be drastically curtailed as a result of the new focus on saving property.

Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco said she would order National Guardsmen redeployed to stop looters as soon as federal emergency personnel were on scene to take over evacuations and rescues. “We will restore law and order,” the Democratic governor declared. “What angers me the most is that disasters like this often bring out the worst in people. I will not tolerate this kind of behavior.”

The media focus on the looting escalated throughout Wednesday, with the cable television networks, in particular, broadcasting and rebroadcasting the same footage of looters, mainly young black people, emerging from flood-damaged stores, goods in hand.

There is a definite social significance to such coverage, which grossly distorts the reality of the worst natural disaster in American history. It demonstrates that under the profit system, private property counts for far more than human life.

The sensationalized press coverage has an obvious political purpose: to demonize the victims of Hurricane Katrina and whip up the basest sentiments, including racism. In this way, the media helps justify the policy already decided on by the American ruling class and the Bush administration—to carry out only the most perfunctory recovery efforts and leave the vast majority of working class victims of the catastrophe to fend for themselves.

It is noteworthy that only 12 hours before he ordered the police mobilization, Mayor Nagin brusquely rejected a question about looting from Matt Lauer, host of NBC’s Today program, telling him the media was grossly exaggerating the significance of a relative handful of people taking television sets and other electronic goods. The bulk of the “theft,” he pointed out, was desperate people taking food, bottled water and clothing to meet their immediate needs.

In a subsequent press interview, Nagin said, “It’s really difficult because my opinion of the looting is it started with people running out of food, and you can’t really argue with that too much. Then it escalated to this kind of mass chaos where people are taking electronic stuff and all that.”

A report in Wednesday’s New York Times confirmed this account, describing the scene at the Super Wal-Mart on Tchoupitoulas Street in the Lower Garden District of New Orleans, where dozens of people were taking goods from the store with the tacit consent of both the store management and local police and firefighters. The store initially opened its doors to supply food to the rescue workers, but was then invaded by local residents, most of them in search of food and clothing.

One woman, accompanied by her teenage daughter, told the Times, “Ain’t nobody stealing anything. They said, ‘Take what you need,’ because the levee is a-busting. It’s about to flood and everything is going to be ruined anyway.” A young man told the newspaper, “We need clothes and food. The police are letting everybody go in and get what they need. They’re not letting you get TV’s and stuff, but the people are overpowering them.”

Like all such events, the hurricane disaster has an enormous social component, revealing what American society is made of. Contrary to Governor Blanco, however, the “worst in people” is shown in the lack of preparation by the authorities and their relative indifference to the suffering inflicted on several million people by the high winds, storm surge and flooding.

When it comes to theft, the looting of consumer goods from a few retail stores in impoverished New Orleans can hardly compare with the profiteering already under way on the part of big business. The price-gouging on gasoline sales alone—the retail price has jumped $1 a gallon in some areas—has robbed billions of dollars from working people all over the United States. But no oil company executives or gasoline distributors are being vilified on the media, let alone hunted down by police and National Guardsmen.


Peace

stayshigh
09-02-2005, 07:57 PM
And for more Real news, check out : http://www.infowars.com/ , it's a link from : http://www.hell-razah.com/ and a source of news that is not funded by the U.S. gov to sway the sheep.


Peace

JASPER
09-02-2005, 08:06 PM
I hate niggers and I hope they all drown. Fuck the jews too.

Indians are awesome. Fuck niggers.

Proud to be white.


Deranged shrimp piss. Stomp faces. Stink feces. Sludge sluts get of my mud stick. My homeless homies look like Jesus.

ballistic
09-02-2005, 09:59 PM
damn...material objects are more important than lives, profit holds more significance than basic vitality...media is really on some bullshit.

Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
09-02-2005, 10:05 PM
I hate niggers and I hope they all drown. Fuck the jews too.

Indians are awesome. Fuck niggers.

Proud to be white.


Deranged shrimp piss. Stomp faces. Stink feces. Sludge sluts get of my mud stick. My homeless homies look like Jesus.

shame when people front on forums, knowing damn well they won't say this shit to someone's face in real life..... I really hope you recieve what's coming to you one day

born invincible
09-02-2005, 10:38 PM
FUCK OFF to the both of you(yeah, I said It), read before you comment.

It is so easy to talk shit when your sitting in front of your PC but I wonder how you would react if some real shit happened to you?


your funny!! and how the hell do you know about anything thats happen to me? so if your gonna speak... atleast make it somewhat intelligent sounding!!

:fucku:

rzarectah
09-02-2005, 10:45 PM
its a shame that the american troops are being ordered to kill other americans......cmon its their neighbors out there, and instead of giving a helping hand, u kill them???? the victims are down and out and marshall law will only push them farther down.....those victims that didnt leave basically couldnt because theyre not rich enough......the poverty level in new orleans is pretty high and mainly those in poverty are blacks, so its sad to see the government react so slow to give a helping hand

stayshigh
09-03-2005, 12:15 AM
your funny!! and how the hell do you know about anything thats happen to me? so if your gonna speak... atleast make it somewhat intelligent sounding!!

:fucku:


This is not about what has happened to you, but what is happening to them. Coupled with the fact that you're too lazy to take 5 mins. to read an article that depicts the actual events taking place in NO, as opposed to the bullshit that is currently being perpetuated by the mainstream media. Then on top of that your ignorant enough to take someone elses' fake ass interpretation and then post your beliefs about the topic at hand based on thier misunderstanding of the said article.....doesn't sound too intelligent to me.

K Dubb
09-03-2005, 12:25 AM
Bush knows that its mainly poor black people in trouble so he just takes his sweet time and smile the whole time in his little cattle ranch in texas and then stop at mississippi first before new orleans when new orleans really needs the most help..that shows that he dont give a shit about blacks and that shows the racism in america becuz america is not a third world country so usually you never see something like that in new orleans that shows to you that they dont wanna help black ppl..now if it was some otha rich place with majority of whites..i'll bet they would of been startin to rebuild that city already so its just lazy bush whos fuckin it up as always

SHRAP
09-03-2005, 12:37 AM
lame

heatholdingconceitedmofo
09-03-2005, 12:46 AM
you people are fucking unbeleivable....stop pulling the race card on everything you peices of shit

born invincible
09-03-2005, 12:46 AM
This is not about what has happened to you, but what is happening to them. Coupled with the fact that you're too lazy to take 5 mins. to read an article that depicts the actual events taking place in NO, as opposed to the bullshit that is currently being perpetuated by the mainstream media. Then on top of that your ignorant enough to take someone elses' fake ass interpretation and then post your beliefs about the topic at hand based on thier misunderstanding of the said article.....doesn't sound too intelligent to me.

blah blah blah.... blah blah blah..... are you done?

i have family there that was effected so dont tell me what i know and dont know! i was simply stating my opinion on how everything that goes wrong, america ends up getting blamed. so for future references... please read before YOU speak. throwin a few big words into a paragraph of slop doesnt make your correct or intelligent!! infact it makes you sound and look retarded!!! so please.... be apart of the solution and not the problem. go read a book or somthing!!!

im done!!! LMAO!!!!

stayshigh
09-03-2005, 01:04 AM
blah blah blah.... blah blah blah..... are you done?

i have family there that was effected so dont tell me what i know and dont know! i was simply stating my opinion on how everything that goes wrong, america ends up getting blamed. so for future references... please read before YOU speak. throwin a few big words into a paragraph of slop doesnt make your correct or intelligent!! infact it makes you sound and look retarded!!! so please.... be apart of the solution and not the problem. go read a book or somthing!!!

im done!!! LMAO!!!!
That was weak.

LetsGetFree
09-03-2005, 01:20 AM
The point of the statement was to point out that what's going on now doesn't have to be, the roots of all of this, the lack of prevention AND response, the under-funding of the hurricane protection projects, the racism, and now the suppression of the survivors lies in capitalism!

This statement points out (in facts that I've yet to see refuted) the basis of all of this.

For the poster that said the ending "wasn't necessary", I'd counter that it is.

If you're disgusted with this situation and you don't want this sort of thing to ever happen again, if you're tired of the racism and classism, the exploitation, the wars, the oppression, then you need to push for a socialist revolution! It really is our only option!

A hurricane of the exact strength of Katrina hit Cuba -- a small impoverished island nation -- in June and only 11 people died! And thats the highest death toll in over forty years in a country that's hit by 5-10 hurricanes a year!! Cuba is a socialist nation, where everything is organized to meet the needs of people, not to make profits, that's why this is possible!

For the poster that asked for a summary, I really think this statement is important, and it deserves your time -- even if you don't agree with it -- it's a tool to create some much needed dialogue. At most it will take 10 minutes of your time to read.

Big Risk
09-03-2005, 01:23 AM
I thought Cuba was communist.

tical2000
09-03-2005, 01:32 AM
I hate niggers and I hope they all drown. Fuck the jews too.

Indians are awesome. Fuck niggers.

Proud to be white.


Deranged shrimp piss. Stomp faces. Stink feces. Sludge sluts get of my mud stick. My homeless homies look like Jesus.go say that to someones face you pussy.........

......people who talk shit like this on computers are weak individuals......its easy to talk shit like this behind a computer.......go say that to someones face you coward

people who do this shit usually suffer from low self-esteems and it makes them feel tough to say stuff they would never have the balls to say in real life

Kriszy Substance
09-03-2005, 02:57 AM
Thanks for the articles posted...it is a pretty sad situation that really could have been prevented...I saw it coming days before too...when people were talking about it getting ready to hit. OF COURSE there are going to be a lot of people who dont have money to leave town or who are not fully educated on the situation. Isnt it the only city under sea level in the U.S or something?

There are also a lot of underlying problems in this situation too, that can hopefully be brought more attention. I was wondering if any one has talked about or heard about how the drug and underground situation is working out there...A lot of people are probably used to being high...drug wise...and I wonder how all that worked out? Like do you think people were still managing to find substances or were freaking out because they didnt have them? Just curious.

Im a white girl. I have no other experience than that. But I do realize there is racism involved here too. Although the racism card can be pulled too often, I dont really think that is the case here. If this shit happed in L.A. and white movie stars and rich people were forced to loot stores to survive, because help had not come yet, then we would think nothing of it.

I wish there was a way to start a revolution or throw out (one way or another) all the bullshit that seems to go on. But its an extremely hard to almost impossible job. We are all so very different and opinionated. All we can do to make this (or anything) better,
is to keep an open & balanced & strong mind. To be as compassionate, courageous, and heart felt as we possibly can. Oh and of course have lots of fun too!

Thanks & Love to all who posted. Good night and let us be thankful that we are behind our computers right now and able to enjoy luxuries that many can not.

Peace & Love & Good Night

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
09-03-2005, 04:38 AM
peace.


letsgetfree..I can respect you. Keep doing ya thing.

to sum it up....


like Sun Tzu said....the LEVEYS................

all of this could've been prevented.., but the elite chose to ignore the situation back then..., and it's funny how this year..Bush goes and constructs some damn million dollar highway. Yall really ain't seeing the bigger picture.

and by the way, if letsgetfree is a socialist .....that's his business.., if you're a capitalist....that's your b.i. And before you decide to comment about either concept...I would hope your knowledge on socialism and what is capitalism is right and exact.

Regardless...

peace..

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

hollywoodrealty
09-03-2005, 08:30 AM
im a european white boy living in america, so no one can say "u are pulling the race card" and i can honestly say that there was a lot of racism involved here with this recovery, bcuz when shit happens in florida with hurricanes, we get immidiate attention bcuz the presidents brother is the governor, and if shit went down in texas, george bush would of been there in a heart beat bcuz he was once the governor, but why would he care about new orleans, those poor people lost all their life, and they are being treated worse then the iraq peeps, george bush refused to pull troops from iraq to help with the recovery, that is wack, he needs to protect his homeland, not some fucken oil money, i used to hvae a lil faith in george bush, i used to think he had balls atleast, but now i see, he has his balls tucked between his legs and turned into a pussy, this shit is so fucken wack, i cant even stand to watch it


now i do put blame on the state for not being more prepaired and evacuating people, they saw that it didnt hurt anyone really in florida so they thought nothing of it, but those people there are rarely hit with anything, but this is a wake up call, i have to pray that they rebuild stronger and better and that they move up from this catastrophy and use it as fuel to build something new, and all of u people out there, i dont care if all u got is an extra t shirt, donate that shirt, im sure your city has somewhere to donate things, peace

Golden_Armz
09-03-2005, 08:44 AM
i say aLL the looters that are taking unnessessary things should be shot
and them farQin' who'dlums who are shooting at the military and police
should get bombed or have helicopters drop razors over them

that would be cool

OmO < Idiom
why? they need to eat.

maestro wooz
09-03-2005, 12:25 PM
i dont think socialism saved the ppl in cuba, it was the people in charge, the members of the government. The members of this (US) government dropped the ball, from the mayor of the city all the way up. If cuba had dimwits in charge they would have just as much trouble right now as new orleans does, communism or capitalism, it wouldnt matter the type of economic system

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
09-03-2005, 12:54 PM
peace.

woozer, Cuba's governmental plan is still in the works....

some hate Castro...some love him...

just how it goes when it comes to Revolution, those who oppose it will fear and hate you.., those who support it..will love you. Regardless, don't believe the hype the media presents us with when it comes to Cuba..or Castro.

If anything take a glance at Venezuela and Hugo Chavez.


peace

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

Crazy
09-03-2005, 02:01 PM
http://www.livescience.com/images/hurricane_katrina_07_02.jpg

Crazy
09-03-2005, 02:07 PM
http://www.livescience.com/images/ig27_hurricane_01_02.jpg

_BaLaNcE_
09-03-2005, 06:06 PM
weather warfare maybe?


http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1859.cfm

JASPER
09-03-2005, 06:08 PM
fuck..hold up

JASPER
09-03-2005, 06:09 PM
http://www.thecorpse.com/forums/uploads/post-1487-1125785481.jpg

tostones
09-03-2005, 07:03 PM
Cuba understands that evacuation after the fact does not work, and obviously have more experience and training to handle that type of emergency. However, it is easier to mobilize and organize the population when everthing (all companies and resources) are ultimately government owned.

peace