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Identity
09-05-2005, 12:14 PM
After thousands of years of speculation and accusations on this topic, it has become somewhat of a discarded one. Much like the identity of The Messiah was not known and the prophecies predicting him were not understood until he actually showed up, the same is true for the Anti-Christ. We won't know who he is, or exactly what he's here to do, until he's actually standing at our doorstep. Going by scripture, we would actually confuse him with The Messiah! Why is this? And how are we supposed to distinguish between the two.

One thing is for sure, no matter how bad The Bible makes him sound, he cannot come up with instruments more destructive then those we have molded ourselves. Concentration camps, torture, brutal genocides: these are not things that exist in a different world, or ideas that haven't come to fruition in our culture. These are horrific things that we have seen with our eyes and that are inherient in our culture. And since we are supposed to mistake the Anti-Christ for Jesus himself, it seems very unlikely we would make such a mistake in identification if the above evils were being commited by the Anti-Christ.

Perhaps we already know who the Anti-Christ is, at least through Scriptures. Perhaps he is the Devil himself. But how did Satanism develop? And why would people follow such a horrible beast? Paganism was the religion of farmers and rural people. When the Christian religion seeped into the political spectrum, it became a state sanction religion. Christianity used this power, as well as the other innumerable sources of it, to spread their religion and convert the people under them. For they felt it was their God sanctioned duty to spread Christianty and convert all people.

But they ran into a problem with pagan people. For paganism had such a grasp on the lifestyle of its people, that the church had difficulty converting its followers. What were they to do about this problem? Perhaps a logical move would have been to declare the pagan gods as angels. Putting God as their higher authority. But instead they choose a different direction, and told these people that their gods were really the servants of a different higher power: they were all the minions of Satan. Unfortunately, this did not have the desired effect. For if Satan were more powerfull then their own gods, people began to wonder why they would bother with their own gods anyone. Why go to an intermediary, when you can go straight for the source? Instead of converting these people to Christianity, people converted to Satanism.

In the long run turning pagan gods to demons did have the desired effect as Satanism began to rise, and paganism began to decline. We know from The Bible that God never says these gods don't exist, He simply states that they are inferior to Him. That they are false gods. But why did people follow these gods? What did they do for them? Passover was not celebrated for hundreds of years by the Jewish people. Instead they worshipped this pagans gods. Were you to go to a Jewish temple, you would find alters to Baal. These pagan alters were more numerous than the streets!

When we talk about the Anti-Christ, we must widden our scope and think instead of the Anti-Savior. For in the major religions of our culture, the most lesson taught is that you need salvation. And that the only person who can do that is yourself. Noone can do it for you. Not only that, but it is the most important thing in your earthly existence! So when we speak of the Anti-Savior we are no only speaking about the matter in a religious context, but also in a cultural one. This is an idea so ingrained in our minds, that it is universally understood what it means to be saved.

What then will the Anti-Savior be? We must first examine what the goal of The Savior is. The mission of Jesus, and all other Savior's is "to save our souls". The goal of the Anti-Savior will be "to save the world."

Prince Rai
09-05-2005, 12:22 PM
peace and blessings...


i belong to a branch of Islam called Ahmadiyyat who believe the anti christ already exists and that the messiah has returned..

the Bible says he will be Jesus.. but like Jesus himself said.. Elija came back as John the Babtist..

likewise.. Jesus would return yet as another human being.. his light would be transferred to him..


the rest of the islamic world refute us.. but we are growing stronger cos we dont speak violence but utter peace..

www.alislam.org (http://www.alislam.org) thats our site... just give it a chek.. and see how i see the world

peace and blessings

ratty mayonnaise
09-05-2005, 01:53 PM
the anti christ is DICK CHENEY!

cutthroat
09-05-2005, 02:28 PM
From what I've heard, the anti-christ is supposed to be coming soon. People will actually worship this being thinking that it is the christ and the pope will relinquish his throne in favor of this antichrist. This version of course demonizes the papacy.

BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
09-05-2005, 02:29 PM
The Papacy is the Anti-Christ

Identity
09-05-2005, 03:39 PM
Prince: www.alislam.org (http://www.alislam.org/) thats our site... just give it a chek.. and see how i see the world
Is there a specific page on the site you could refer me to about the identity of the Anti-Christ?

cutthroat: From what I've heard, the anti-christ is supposed to be coming soon.
That's what people have been saying for two thousand years.

soul: the anti christ is DICK CHENEY!
Why not Hitler?

bigben: The Papacy is the Anti-Christ
This has also been said for thousands of years, particularlly during Luther's Reformation. With the same being said about Luther.

Fragmented
09-05-2005, 04:24 PM
there enough devils in the world without an anti christ why make all evil beig when you already have a global governmet system evil enough to cause genocide as part of it's comformist society

fuck an anti christ humanity is evil eough with folklore

ratty mayonnaise
09-05-2005, 04:39 PM
how camn their be an anti christ.. if jesus never existed.. if the mary og magdeline nevcer existed. i have shown on another thread the co realisations of the relgions and how the same things where used again and again.. just the people and names chnaged..

the anti christ. i would say is.. reverse pyschology.. going with everything else tha illuminati does (i.e oppositve symbolism.. what means to us.. means the opposite to them.. statue of liberty - the the people - freedom - to the inniated - queen semiramis/the godess diana with the spikes as the rays of the sun.. their are 1000's of positive/negative symbols//

like the owl.. and the olive branch.. rofl. noah ahd one so did yassir arafat rofl.. sorry

so i see the anti christ as.. something that will never happen.. just their to give us fear.. if they give us somehting to fear.. or to have fear in. from an early indoctrined age.. then.. all i ca say is.. the anti christ.. if one ever stumbles to be labelled as one. will be rather good.

its just more secret mystery school symbolry that YOu are supposed to take literally..

not look for the higher meaning..

peace to one and all

WU-KILLAH
09-05-2005, 04:51 PM
the rest of the islamic world refute us.. but we are growing stronger cos we dont speak violence but utter peace..

the rest of the islamic world as you call it ain't violent ... some muthafuckaz that ain't actually muslims are ... but I know a lot of dude who don't belong to your branch of islamism that are faaar from being violents.

JASPER
09-05-2005, 04:52 PM
Sometimes I think I'm the anti christ, but then I look in the mirror and see this innocent little boy.. innocent and sexy.. man I have a nice ass.

Identity
09-05-2005, 05:18 PM
soul: how camn their be an anti christ.. if jesus never existed.. if the mary og magdeline nevcer existed. i have shown on another thread the co realisations of the relgions and how the same things where used again and again.. just the people and names chnaged..

The idea of an Anti-Savior is embedded in our culture, which is why the majority of religions have a Savior and an Anti-Savior. Religion is the ideal of our culture's vision. "If only people did this, then everything would be perfect." But everyone's never going to do "this". So I am addressing the idea of an Anti-Savior from a cultural standpoint, not from a religious one.

ratty mayonnaise
09-05-2005, 05:43 PM
peace culture and religion are differant? i dont 100% agree, as most ciultures use a religion or religious doctrines to set their culture..
it is impossible to seperate an anti saviour from a religion to a culture.. as they both wouold being the same result..

its just more fear

the 4 letters that rule this planet.

negative energy is used daily.
peace

cutthroat
09-05-2005, 07:31 PM
That's what people have been saying for two thousand years.


Actually, the information that I read specifically said which pope's reign that these events will occur. I can't remember if they said it will occur for this pope or for the next, but one of those two spots.

Of course, like what has been said above, if Jesus Christ is a myth, then so are theories of the antichrist.

cutthroat
09-05-2005, 07:48 PM
Found this "apocalyptic" message board. There is actually a poll taken on who people think the antichrist might be. LOL, David Blaine has 9% of the vote. It also outlines a theory on the pope being the antichrist. Actually, they predict the next pope to use a different name other than the 7 that have already been used will be the antichrist. The current pope Ratzinger therefore according to these guys is not the antichrist, but if he were to change his name (which is possible), then he may be.

http://www.sqlspace.com/the-antichrist-cometh-pope666-vt7735.html

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
09-05-2005, 08:02 PM
p.e.a.c.e.,

true indeed@ soul controller.

peace Identity...I'm interested in whom the people of your faith consider to be the anti-christ..., respond when you wish.


My personal view about the anti-christ (perhaps soul controller..another title to a massive ball of tricknowledgy manifested in a human; exclude the 4 letter word for a minute..lol)...sometimes I think him or "they" already exist.., but I also think he hasn't arrived yet...but is on the way....sometime extremely soon.

peace


SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

Identity
09-05-2005, 08:16 PM
Sub: peace Identity...I'm interested in whom the people of your faith consider to be the anti-christ..., respond when you wish.I'm not a member of any faith, but I call myself "Ishmaelic" or a member of "The Chruch of Ishmael". It's not a real religion, but I agree with everything Daniel Quinn states in his book "Ishmael", hence the name. He has a pretty large following. Most people who read his book state that it completely changed thier life. I'd encourage you to read it. (It's fiction and extremely easy reading. Only took me two days, six hours total.)

His view, and subsequentally my view of the Anti-Christ, is that it will be someone who figures out how to and teaches people to "save the world" and not "save people's souls". So Daniel Quinn would be the Anti-Christ, since he is the first and only one to figure out the answer.

www.ishmael.com (http://www.ishmael.com/)

"The Takers' story is, 'The gods made the world for man, but they botched the job, so we had to take matters into our own, more competent hands.' The Leavers' story is, 'The gods made man for the world, the same way they made salmon and sparrows and rabbits for the world; this seems to have worked pretty well so far, so we can take it easy and leave the running of the world to the gods.'"

Ishmael

triggahappy187
09-05-2005, 08:30 PM
Bush is suppose to lead us right like Jesus led his people supposidly? Maybe Bush is the Anti-Christ brotha or somethin cuz this cat is pretty evil.

Identity
09-05-2005, 08:46 PM
trigga: Bush is suppose to lead us right like Jesus led his people supposidly? Maybe Bush is the Anti-Christ brotha or somethin cuz this cat is pretty evil.
It seems to me that the best political canidate for the title of The Anti-Christ would have been Hitler. Who is now dead, and has relatively zero followers left.

Koolish
09-05-2005, 10:21 PM
there's no reason posting this kind of stuff on the internet, majority of people on the internet hate/don't believe in anything religious, or just suck at being religious so they'll talk about all this BS.
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maestro wooz
09-05-2005, 10:38 PM
anti christ will probaly be white

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
09-06-2005, 12:06 PM
peace.

Identity...interesting. Pardon self for referring to it as a faith, that is my mistake. I'd like to read up on it...even though I walk with my own culture.

peace.

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

LHX
09-06-2005, 12:20 PM
the anti-christ is something which spreads messages other than freedom justice equality

the anti-christ is not a man

the anti-christ is the internet


stop looking for an enemy
the battle is between your ears

if somebody can fool you
thats your fault

the anti-christ is the internet

and the irony is that in amongst all the
bullshit opinions
porn
bad music
celebrity
con artists

also lies the truth

and the truth is most of us worship ourselves

PEACE

ratty mayonnaise
09-06-2005, 01:17 PM
^^ oh shit
that was deep

peace and props lhX

Prince Rai
09-06-2005, 01:20 PM
http://www.alislam.org/books/invitation/arg2.html


the anti christ is a condition of life... whereby the messiah will bring guidance and peace
the world will be in a situation where they are trapped by the anti christ... we wont see it till we open our eyes..


peace and blessings to LHX who has given one way in which the anti christ condition fools the heart..

froth
09-06-2005, 01:58 PM
anti christ will probaly be white
;D

The Red Horseman
09-06-2005, 05:20 PM
The Anti-Christ is my MASTER!
all yield to his wrath

7ess
09-06-2005, 06:38 PM
Sometimes I think I'm the anti christ, but then I look in the mirror and see this innocent little boy.. innocent and sexy.. man I have a nice ass.
Hilarious!

whoever said hitler doesn't have any followers anymore is way off, neo-nazis, skinheads, all them dudes love him& study that book he wrote which is some crazy shit to read.

I don't have an opinion on this, I think negative actions of people are thier own anti-christs

36chambers
09-06-2005, 10:56 PM
moved.

ratty mayonnaise
09-07-2005, 12:01 PM
^^ fuckin type on the topic..
!!!! :)

Identity
09-07-2005, 03:02 PM
Why do we feel we need to be saved? Have people always felt this way? What is the difference between those who feel they need to be saved and those who do not?

ratty mayonnaise
09-07-2005, 04:01 PM
people need to be saved as they are ignorant.. and are conditioned to belueve they was born in sin

so the ones who set the religions have power over u!

Identity
09-07-2005, 04:33 PM
soul controller: people need to be saved as they are ignorant.. and are conditioned to belueve they was born in sin

so the ones who set the religions have power over u!
What information do people lack that leads them to believe that they need to be saved?

ratty mayonnaise
09-07-2005, 05:24 PM
information of self, their real multimensional selves.
but most of all theirs been generations of indoctrination fed to them. and history sets the current trend.. so u have to make peoplee see REAL history and not the coperate version of it. or the version their so called beLIEf system tells them is correct.

what do u think Identity?

peace

BlaK FuRYaN
09-07-2005, 05:33 PM
From my view...

Isa(Jesus) is to return to fight the Anti Christ...

The king of the JEWs is the Anti-Christ also know as the "Dajjal"who will appear and declear himself as god...

This is what the JEWs are preparing for(in terms of Global domination and a central computer"The Beast" to store sensitive information on individuals)

The JEWs will think the Dajjaal is Isa-Jesus....but will be mistaken....

When Isa Does Return he will defeat the Dajjal, break the crosses/crucifixes and slaughter the pigs on the earth....

Prophet Muhammad pbuh mentions in his Ahadeeth the description of the Dajjal....
"he will be built, with one eye like a grape...and you lord is not one eyed....."

ratty mayonnaise
09-07-2005, 05:42 PM
u got me thinking

THE ANTI CHRIST IS ANYONE WHO SEES THE WORLD FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS, YOU HAVE TO USE YOUR 3RD EYE TO SEE IT, theirfore u are labelled as an anti-christ and due to the 1000's of years of this indoctrination.. the people with the knowledge who want to share it will be purged... same as the inquisition.....


peace

Identity
09-07-2005, 06:19 PM
soul: information of self, their real multimensional selves.
but most of all theirs been generations of indoctrination fed to them. and history sets the current trend.. so u have to make peoplee see REAL history and not the coperate version of it. or the version their so called beLIEf system tells them is correct.

what do u think Identity?

peaceWould you say they lack the knowledge on how to live correctly? Everywhere in our culture we look to other sources on how to live correctly. This is knowledge we think is so impossible to find, that we look to gods, God, Jesus, prophets, aliens, and other-dimensional beings. We look around us and see all of the evils present in our society and think "this isn't how we're supposed to live, humans must be flawed beings". But it is not humans that are flawed. If this were true, then we would expect all cultures to feel that they needed to be saved. But this is not the case. If you go and interview the remaining .1% of our population that lives in a different culture, you'll find they never ask themselves this question. They are living the way that best suits them, a way that follows the laws of nature. It is because our culture is breaking the laws of nature that we feel there is something wrong.

10,000 years ago there were tens of thousands of different cultures. All of them followed the laws of nature, and all of them knew how to live correctly. This wasn't any sort of hidden, or extra-dimensional knowledge. It was knowledge they all knew and exercised. But then came what I call The Great Forgetting. It is when people began to forget how to live correctly. And after a few generations, the knowledge was completely lost to our culture. But it is information that we are all capable of deducing.

soul: u got me thinking

THE ANTI CHRIST IS ANYONE WHO SEES THE WORLD FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS, YOU HAVE TO USE YOUR 3RD EYE TO SEE IT, theirfore u are labelled as an anti-christ and due to the 1000's of years of this indoctrination.. the people with the knowledge who want to share it will be purged... same as the inquisition.....There is a saying that everything that is keep secret, is really not an important secret. The biggest secrets could be plastered on Billboards and would go unnoticed. Not simply because they are difficult to understand, but because they exist in the blind spot of our culture. Our culture tells us myths. Every culture does. And these myths guide how we view the world. We hear these myths every time we turn on the TV, read a book, attend school, talk to our parents. It is something that is handed down to us by our parents, and that we will hand down to our children. These are things we unquestionably take as fact. We don't even realize that they could be, that they are wrong.

When we talk about our history, human history, our culture tells the myth that humans "gave up" a nomadic hunter gathering lifestlye in order to become agriculturalist. In reality, this is a lie. One singular culture, out of tens of thousands of different ones, "gave up" the nomadic hunter gatherer limited agricultural lifestyle in order to pursue totalitarian agriculture. This wasn't "the birth" of agriculture as a lifestyle. Agriculture wasn't invented all at once. Just like Edison's invention depended upon 10,000 previous ones, so did agriculture. What was different was not that they practiced agriculture, but the type of agriculture that they practiced. This is what caused them to forget how to live correctly.

They began to tell themselves a myth that was different from any other culture that had previously existed in the past three million years, and it is a myth that we still tell ourselves today.

What do you think this myth is?

The Red Horseman
09-08-2005, 10:38 AM
Why do we feel we need to be saved? Have people always felt this way? What is the difference between those who feel they need to be saved and those who do not? because I slowly rot your organs

faith

Identity
09-08-2005, 06:30 PM
right...

SubtleEnergies
09-09-2005, 10:15 PM
PRINCE RAI :

I ask this with no disresepct meant. I was looking at the link you put up and I inted to look into it more when I have some time.

My question is this...If Jesus did return, how can he live and die so unrecognized?

ratty mayonnaise
09-10-2005, 04:40 AM
Would you say they lack the knowledge on how to live correctly? Everywhere in our culture we look to other sources on how to live correctly. This is knowledge we think is so impossible to find, that we look to gods, God, Jesus, prophets, aliens, and other-dimensional beings. We look around us and see all of the evils present in our society and think "this isn't how we're supposed to live, humans must be flawed beings". But it is not humans that are flawed. If this were true, then we would expect all cultures to feel that they needed to be saved. But this is not the case. If you go and interview the remaining .1% of our population that lives in a different culture, you'll find they never ask themselves this question. They are living the way that best suits them, a way that follows the laws of nature. It is because our culture is breaking the laws of nature that we feel there is something wrong.

10,000 years ago there were tens of thousands of different cultures. All of them followed the laws of nature, and all of them knew how to live correctly. This wasn't any sort of hidden, or extra-dimensional knowledge. It was knowledge they all knew and exercised. But then came what I call The Great Forgetting. It is when people began to forget how to live correctly. And after a few generations, the knowledge was completely lost to our culture. But it is information that we are all capable of deducing.

There is a saying that everything that is keep secret, is really not an important secret. The biggest secrets could be plastered on Billboards and would go unnoticed. Not simply because they are difficult to understand, but because they exist in the blind spot of our culture. Our culture tells us myths. Every culture does. And these myths guide how we view the world. We hear these myths every time we turn on the TV, read a book, attend school, talk to our parents. It is something that is handed down to us by our parents, and that we will hand down to our children. These are things we unquestionably take as fact. We don't even realize that they could be, that they are wrong.

When we talk about our history, human history, our culture tells the myth that humans "gave up" a nomadic hunter gathering lifestlye in order to become agriculturalist. In reality, this is a lie. One singular culture, out of tens of thousands of different ones, "gave up" the nomadic hunter gatherer limited agricultural lifestyle in order to pursue totalitarian agriculture. This wasn't "the birth" of agriculture as a lifestyle. Agriculture wasn't invented all at once. Just like Edison's invention depended upon 10,000 previous ones, so did agriculture. What was different was not that they practiced agriculture, but the type of agriculture that they practiced. This is what caused them to forget how to live correctly.

They began to tell themselves a myth that was different from any other culture that had previously existed in the past three million years, and it is a myth that we still tell ourselves today.

What do you think this myth is?

Peace

i see that myth as reverse symbology
as we changed for the better, from hunters to civilised peoples

in most cases the opposite of what is written is true

peace

Golden_Armz
09-11-2005, 06:03 AM
First you gotta know who the forerunners to the antichrist are -

aismani
10-13-2005, 05:44 AM
Devil is a man not willing to honour gods manifestation(aka the mankind plus earth) and worships his own selfish ego (false self=arabic"naf") instead of recognizin the ultimate unity of true self and by this is lost in fear means hate means devlish manifestation.Remember:God degraded Lucifer for not honouring men and gave him power over mankind to the DAY,so he should try them till they return to their true self.

ALLAH BODY UNIVERSAL

LHX
10-13-2005, 06:54 AM
god didnt degrade nobody


lucifer has a job to do and he is doing it




the only reason why we came up with some sort of beef between god and lucifer is because it makes for a more entertaining story

and its easier to fool people with



lucifer punches in at 9 and punches out at 5
this shit is clockwork

its only thru mans eyes that we make it look like a comic book action spectacular featuring superheroes and villains

aismani
10-13-2005, 07:49 AM
the devil is gods lowest warlord

7EL7
10-13-2005, 08:56 AM
This is a picture of the antichrist

http://www.christcenteredmall.com/stores/art/sallman/portrait-of-Jesus.jpg


He made the world believe that he was from God and that Gods children are from the devil

its not one man thats the antichrist

it was a plan to decieve the whole world of his existance

and he did that by stealing our identity and culture

wearing it himself so that no one would recognize him for who he is

he has been hiding until the son of man pointed him out in the early 1900's

now he is exposed he wants to destroy the earth with nuclear fire because he

knows his time is limited

he will fail

LHX
10-13-2005, 12:04 PM
the devil is gods lowest warlord
gods most reliable henchman?

Prince Rai
10-13-2005, 12:47 PM
PRINCE RAI :

I ask this with no disresepct meant. I was looking at the link you put up and I inted to look into it more when I have some time.

My question is this...If Jesus did return, how can he live and die so unrecognized?

look at how millions followed a jesus who was white with blue eyes and blonde hair...
people believe what they want to believe... look at many institutions today.. they have changed themselves so that its more attractive to the people of today..


you see.. the message of HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMAD is the one of divine peace... its so deep that all nations recognised it tremendously.. he was viwed as ISLAMS LION... however when he revealed his identity.. people feared cos they knew he was right.. and his status would be made bound for all... so therefore people who were righteous followed him and those who feared for their matreial self.. rejected him



the last law bearing prophet Muhammad saw, said that, the messiah will be the one who will go through the same as what he had 2 go through..

rejection and torture..
http://www.thepersecution.org/news/2005/mong.html



those who are truly righteous are humble in essence as humbleness engenders great spiritual values and attributes.
many who shout their beliefs are lacking the way of the prophets and thats a fact

Prince Rai
10-13-2005, 12:50 PM
http://www.alislam.org/library/pm-bl.html


this is just a beginning...

more and more who see with their conscious eyes.. see that the world needs reform NOW.. and thats not through violence yet through words and true explanations..

every nation is a ship who needs a captain..

LHX
10-13-2005, 02:03 PM
everybody has the ability to say no as long as they are willing to face the consequences

the anti-christ is anything that makes a person scared to say no or scared to face consequences


the phoenix rises from the ashes
the sooner we get to the ashes
the sooner the phoenix can say "whats up? whats chillin? how ya been?"

Prince Rai
10-13-2005, 02:09 PM
the antichrist is the self that cites 2 evil

LHX
10-13-2005, 02:39 PM
evil or stupid?

TUCO
10-13-2005, 02:56 PM
the 2-headed anti-christ


http://multigraphic.dk/lounge/weblog/images/uploads/Rumsfeld_Cheney.jpg

Prince Rai
10-13-2005, 03:11 PM
evil or stupid?
if stupid.. then thats the possibility to evil


but evil is a deep entity that can be warm and deceptive for the heart..

we mus elevate ourselves from that.. espacielly in this day

LHX
10-13-2005, 04:02 PM
if stupid.. then thats the possibility to evil


but evil is a deep entity that can be warm and deceptive for the heart..

we mus elevate ourselves from that.. espacielly in this day
it is true

the consequences will be harsh

7EL7
10-13-2005, 05:53 PM
When Isa Does Return he will defeat the Dajjal, break the crosses/crucifixes and slaughter the pigs on the earth....


lol

its already been done

K.E.G.
10-13-2005, 08:01 PM
the anti-christ is all of us who believe or don't believe. what makes us Anti- "righteuos" is when a person has the inability to reflect one's true self through growth and determine following desire and being accord with all things that have passed and that will come.


The world can only get better or worse.
It is the amount of righteous successors that claim to be good then in turn neglect negative circumstances that rule the rules causing the worse.

I believe you will be revealed the notion of Muhammad, Jesus, etc. upon your death; (WHAT YOU MUST NOW DO). But you can get through whatever during your life using their rules and educating yourself on self improvement and indestrucibility.

A time will come though, as all living creatures will live thorugh, that their will be shortage of, storms above, epidemics, and amazing exposure to the new or rare.

Prince Rai
10-14-2005, 02:16 PM
lol

its already been done
true...

people view the time of the messiah whereby they believe he will destroy evil and deception with physical might..

how stupid is man to eblieve that..

the greatest weapon is the one of mind..

a healthy path in mind can break all boundaries and messiah hazrat mirza ghulam ahmad taught us the way how it was meant to have been followed..


though we get hurt physically, we retaliate by becoming stronger in mind..


why is it taught.... knowledge is power?

Hellspawn
10-15-2005, 05:47 AM
a friend of mine read in a book and told me that the anti christ already exist and he's emprisonned in some lost island (some islamic stories say that a bunch of christian people saw him and he asked about an illiterate prophet (mohammed) and when they say that man already came, the anti christ said:ok i wont still here for a long time. they turn back to mohammed and told him about that man and mohammed said it's the anti christ).

he will show up when the world will know a great famine and then he will act like a messiah bringin water, food and everything...that's why alot of people will follow him...especially the women and the jews (!!!???).

he's described as an ugly man with a closed eye and that true muslims will see the world "Sinner" (kafer) written on his face but alot of them will follow him too.

he will conquer a big part of the world and when he'll attempt to go to Mecca the ground will start shaking and he will give up. but he will show his power when a man come to him out of the doors of mecca and the anti christ will kill him and revive him...but the man still stand in front of him sayin to him : lyer!!!

then jesus (aissa) will ressurect and kill the anti christ...then live among humanity for 40 years then die like a human beign (for the first time).

that's what my friend told me.

peace

LHX
10-15-2005, 10:02 AM
i swear i read that comic book too

Prince Rai
10-15-2005, 02:14 PM
i swear i read that comic book too
lol

Hellspawn
10-17-2005, 09:32 AM
i swear i read that comic book too

Hahahhahhhhaaaaaaaaaaaahhhahah LMAO

DJ ALX
10-17-2005, 09:47 AM
Why so much agony on the antichrist issue?
If you beleive in your self then nobody can really hurt you.

I just cant see why all this trouble...

Prince Rai
10-17-2005, 10:35 AM
Why so much agony on the antichrist issue?
If you beleive in your self then nobody can really hurt you.

I just cant see why all this trouble...i believe in myself.. though u can turn a knife in ma back

the issue is complex

DJ ALX
10-25-2005, 11:47 AM
i believe in myself.. though u can turn a knife in ma back

the issue is complex

See? thats what im talkin about. Are you your body or are you your spirit?
The first is mortal and not for ever and the second is immortal and everlasting...
If we assume that there is an antichrist he'll have power and authority only to those who are afraid to loose their body. Those who are afraid to lose their body dont beleive in eternal life in the heavens that The Upmost constructed for us.

WARPATH
10-25-2005, 05:51 PM
Jesus was a real man in history. Jesus is the son of god. With that being siad we are all god's children. So that levels the playing field- now- Jesus is no better then me and I am no better then him. However, Jesus was an interpreter. There have been many interpreter's since Jesus but Jesus was the only one that became really famous. He was a good person, and he healed people. But interpreter's even exist today- they're just not on t.v. performing miracles. Jesus's job was to give people faith, and I think he did that well, but some people take his teachings to far and twist them into something they're not. The anti christ is anyone that kills in the name of god or kills in the name of jesus or christianity. Bush is an anti-christ in my opinion.

Prince Rai
10-27-2005, 07:44 AM
See? thats what im talkin about. Are you your body or are you your spirit?
The first is mortal and not for ever and the second is immortal and everlasting...
If we assume that there is an antichrist he'll have power and authority only to those who are afraid to loose their body. Those who are afraid to lose their body dont beleive in eternal life in the heavens that The Upmost constructed for us.
ok i think i get u,

are u saying that, we shoudldnt be scared of the antichrist if we know that in the end we end up in Gods arms anyway?


ok i feel u absolutely...

however, who told us about the antichrist?
isnt it about protecting your brothers and sisters?
and isnt it true that if we see evil being misunderstood, that it should be a moral duty to show the truth about an evil so that we can purify ourselves from lies?


the antichrist is real, but not in the way perceived.. it is a state of mind and world, which needs changing.. and i believe it has but people wnt listen cos they are busy for expediency

Prince Rai
10-27-2005, 07:52 AM
Jesus was a real man in history. Jesus is the son of god. With that being siad we are all god's children. So that levels the playing field- now- Jesus is no better then me and I am no better then him. However, Jesus was an interpreter. There have been many interpreter's since Jesus but Jesus was the only one that became really famous. He was a good person, and he healed people. But interpreter's even exist today- they're just not on t.v. performing miracles. Jesus's job was to give people faith, and I think he did that well, but some people take his teachings to far and twist them into something they're not. The anti christ is anyone that kills in the name of god or kills in the name of jesus or christianity. Bush is an anti-christ in my opinion.
i feel much what you said, especially how u watered down the idea of son of God,, its not literal we are all part of God and jesus was man like us..

jesus was definitely a great prophet amongst many others.. and he not the nly famous one lol.. but yes.. he indeed do many good things!!

antichrist also performs wrongdoings not just in the name of christianity but all before God..

peace n blessings

Claustrofobic
03-14-2006, 05:12 PM
It make sense to me at this point in my life, that Friedrich Nietzsche was the mind of the Anti-Christ and Adolf Hitler was it's body. Nietzsche wrote the ideas down and Hitler was Nothing in the human flesh, who excecuted Nietzsche's idea's and plans. Hitler and Nietzsche were both Nothing. That's what made them both impossible to understand by others, and thats why no one has ever solved the questions to what and why about Hitler.

CockHead
03-14-2006, 06:30 PM
I don't like these things.

dif de la rev
03-14-2006, 10:32 PM
It make sense to me at this point in my life, that Friedrich Nietzsche was the mind of the Anti-Christ and Adolf Hitler was it's body. Nietzsche wrote the ideas down and Hitler was Nothing in the human flesh, who excecuted Nietzsche's idea's and plans. Hitler and Nietzsche were both Nothing. That's what made them both impossible to understand by others, and thats why no one has ever solved the questions to what and why about Hitler.

nietzsche was against christianity as he saw it an institution that actually made the worshippers weak. where one was to sacrifice themselves for their brother and that to suffer was the way to heaven. the politics and the bureacracy of the religion. yes he has a book called the anti-christ - it speaks about what i just mentioned. yes hitler used that to outlaw all religion. if you read his thus spake zarathustra you will see that his ideas of the 'christ' if you will was inbedded in all per se.