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TSA
12-27-2008, 11:39 PM
Wow.
i thought what happened to hip hop was bad.

rock and roll in the 50's and prior was the shit, it had flavor, soul, a rhythm, and was only getting better and better with time.

when it got popular it got better in the 60s. Song writing was genius, the imagination and inventivness was unparallel

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i used to not listen to any rock and roll accept a few songs here and there cause i didn't know where to start with all the shit in the atmosphere. I used to think hip hop was the only avenue for CREATING soundscapes themes and worlds via music, or atleast the best for doing this. Then you listen to a song like Mr. Kite and you wonder what the fuck happened?


around the 80s it just turned to pure shit.
that exact same 121212121212121212121212121212121212121212 guitar riff, faggots screaming dickless swaggerless bullshit with no rhythm, no pace, no order, no fuckin discipline.


riffs on 60s and 70s rock and before were always new and inventive, each song took a life of its own, but now if such a riff exists you know its just a build up for

AAAAAUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!111 12121212121212121212121212121212121212121212212121 212121212121
SHE HATES ME!
SHE HATES ME!
SHE HATES ME!
SHE HATES ME!
SHE HATES!
122...2..22..11..1...1..22. 22..11...11.222 1 1 1 1 21222222 1.
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!
12121212121212121212121211212121221221121212122121 212121221212



the song writing has gone to asshole too. Every song is about how the person suck at life or a dark theme, most often both. and the lyrics are always pure shit. I was listening to System of a Down.


are you fucking serious?


rock and roll needs to stop sucking dick shack it off and slap some pigskin.

JerseyIronman
12-28-2008, 01:26 AM
I guess it did take a nose dive, but not nearly as bad as hip hop has.

System of a Down are in sort of a extreme genre, i can total see why someone wouldnt like them. There are still great bands around today like Radiohead who you cant deny as being musical masters. plus a hundred other bands around today I think are very talented.

Longbongcilvaringz
12-28-2008, 06:16 AM
That Beatle's tune is fucking awful.

Rock is pretty much the same now as it always was.

Olive Oil Goombah
12-28-2008, 12:24 PM
Rock needs to suck every now and then so it can reinvent itself.

In the early 60's rock was becoming manufactured bullshit with the girl bands and what not (altho i dont think that music was shit) but then came the British invasion, Stones and Beatles etc.

80's rock wasn't bad, it just got really glamour and commercialized, which is what sprung the grunge era.....then grunge got commercialized.

I dunno what we have had since, but i really havent enjoyed it.

oDoUoSoKo
12-28-2008, 02:23 PM
Bob Dylan is still alive. So are the Stones.

TSA
12-28-2008, 04:50 PM
That Beatle's tune is fucking awful.

Rock is pretty much the same now as it always was.

or not

TSA
12-28-2008, 04:52 PM
i guess it is an issue of personal taste, for me i dont like the metal shit with no dick, but alot of ppl like it. Im not huge on metalica, too much of it is irritating and shit that sounds like that. Then you got the epic shithole rock thats more about the person being a freakshow then the music like all that emo shit and bat eating.

Olive Oil Goombah
12-29-2008, 12:04 AM
ozzie and black sabbath is fuckin legend tho...

alot of metallica fans think they sold out cuz they kinda upgraded there style.

I definitely think this nuvo emo wanabe punk rock is awful tho. absolutely dreadful.

TSA
12-29-2008, 12:28 AM
i really can't see how ppl like ozzie and black sabbath cause so much of it is just a person hammering the same chords with 0 rhymth.

i always ask the fans how they tell a dope song from that genre from a wack one

Olive Oil Goombah
12-29-2008, 11:08 AM
I dunno..black sabbath usually transcends alot of different types of people.

Sweet Leaf is a great tune. Mr. Crowley, crazy train

ALCATRAZ
01-05-2009, 02:37 AM
rock has been weak ever since it distanced itself from tha struggle

9th Warrior
01-05-2009, 12:23 PM
i really can't see how ppl like ozzie and black sabbath cause so much of it is just a person hammering the same chords with 0 rhymth.

i always ask the fans how they tell a dope song from that genre from a wack one

you don't even play an instrument.
you listen to rap all day.
how can you comment on chord progressions, rhythm, meter, and other such musical terminology.
black sabbath "hammering the same chords"?
have you ever listened to black sabbath?
get the fuck out of the sound shack nigga.

gasoline boots
01-05-2009, 08:45 PM
Ok this guy is talking shit on Black Sabbath...enough said right there.

You should stick to hip hop, maybe you know more about that.

But "rock n roll" is such a broad spectrum of shit, good and bad, that it's dumb to try to even make a general comment about its direction.


But seriously, that Black Sabbath comment is MIND-BOGGLING.

oDoUoSoKo
01-05-2009, 08:46 PM
black sabbath didnt make mr crowley or crazy train...that was solo ozzie...eloels.

ALCATRAZ
01-12-2009, 11:01 PM
rock has been weak ever since it distanced itself from tha struggle
bumpin my own shit because i can

Olive Oil Goombah
01-12-2009, 11:33 PM
black sabbath didnt make mr crowley or crazy train...that was solo ozzie...eloels.

its all the same...well its not, but it is.

Visionz
01-13-2009, 12:46 AM
i guess it is an issue of personal taste, for me i dont like the metal shit with no dick, but alot of ppl like it. Im not huge on metalica, too much of it is irritating and shit that sounds like that. Then you got the epic shithole rock thats more about the person being a freakshow then the music like all that emo shit and bat eating.

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Black Sabbath---War Pigs



peep these joints out and tell me if you still think the same thing

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Metallica--Master of Puppets
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Metallica--One

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Pantera---Fucking Hostile



in every genre of music there's whats good and true and then there's everything else, alot of times its just knowing what to check for

Paranoid
01-13-2009, 01:07 AM
That Beatle's tune is fucking awful.

Rock is pretty much the same now as it always was.


ur a fag

Visionz
01-14-2009, 02:30 PM
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Black Sabbath---War Pigs



peep these joints out and tell me if you still think the same thing

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Metallica--Master of Puppets
NMquGj3aMWE
Metallica--One

E929gqIcwwI
Pantera---Fucking Hostile



in every genre of music there's whats good and true and then there's everything else, alot of times its just knowing what to check for
peep that shit fucker

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 03:29 PM
Niggas can't fuck with this shit, Motorhead is the most bad ass metal band in existence

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ALCATRAZ
01-14-2009, 10:51 PM
punk > metal

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:00 PM
punk > metal

Sure I guess, if you prefer talentless 3 chord garbage

ALCATRAZ
01-14-2009, 11:19 PM
i'd rather have three chords and a message than mega shred and vampire bloodbath dungeon and dragon stories

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:26 PM
i'd rather have three chords and a message than mega shred and vampire bloodbath dungeon and dragon stories

for the record i like some punk bands. some of my favs are Rancid, Bad Brains, Choking Victim, Misfits, Ramones, Minor Threat, Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag etc

but just because music has a message you find appealing doesn't necessarily make it good... some punk is just straight up garbage

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:29 PM
Also Motorhead is probably the most influential band to both the punk and metal genre

They simply kick fucking ass

I dare anyone to name one punk or metal band that can touch them

ALCATRAZ
01-14-2009, 11:32 PM
but just because music has a message you find appealing doesn't necessarily make it good...

true.....i just dont like stories about blood baths i guess

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:34 PM
true.....i just dont like stories about blood baths i guess

in addition, some metal is straight up garbage

and not all of metal's subject matter is about that shit

ALCATRAZ
01-14-2009, 11:35 PM
im also big on diy not talkin bout this new wave crap but original diy bands metal or punk it just so happens punk headz were ahead of tha curve in that respect......its jus ridiculously gritty and i love that whether its punk or rap..matter of fact punk is rap

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:38 PM
peep this shit, if u a fan of punk u probably already seen this shit but w/e

Rancid is sick, a very talented punk band, easily my fav

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i love this shit brings back good memories

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:47 PM
this shit right here is grimey as fuck i love this tune

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Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:51 PM
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Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:55 PM
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"i got somethin to say, id rape your mother today...

doesn't matter much to me as long as she spread..."

"i got somethin to say, ill kill your baby today...

doesn't matter much to me as long as its dead..."

Classic tune

ALCATRAZ
01-14-2009, 11:56 PM
me likey old school punk

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reagan youth

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the exploited

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articles of faith

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circle jerks

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mdc


.....shit like dat

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:57 PM
Glenn Danzig's voice is intoxicating

ALCATRAZ
01-14-2009, 11:57 PM
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fear is ill.....too bad tha lead singer is sum weird conservative dude nowadays..... i love living in the city is my shit

Paranoid
01-14-2009, 11:58 PM
me likey old school punk

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reagan youth

3bZzM4s0Hgs
the exploited

5kb7W45LDro
articles of faith

SXZYKe5twAU
circle jerks

sHo9BCfAhI0
mdc


.....shit like dat

ya thats good stuff

some of the old british shit tho imo is just garbage, some of it is classic tho

ALCATRAZ
01-15-2009, 12:01 AM
ya thats good stuff

some of the old british shit tho imo is just garbage, some of it is classic tho
yea same can be said about america

Paranoid
01-15-2009, 12:02 AM
yea same can be said about america

true

Twiztid-Wutang
01-22-2009, 06:02 PM
Rock will NEVER be as bad as rap is. Period. No debate. No discussion. I dont give a fuck WHO your talking about.

Rap will NEVER be greater than rock.

Except bad rock like:

Fall out boy (Balls in boy)
Seether
My chemical romance (My chemical Bromance)
The used (TAMPON)
Panic at the disco (Faggot at the disco)

Since people are dickheads, and dont understand what I was trying to say. I meant that Rap to me, will never be as bad as Hip hop is now.

Etc etc

Koolish
01-25-2009, 08:05 PM
i used to think the same way, that rock was on some higher level of music, but it's not.

they're both art forms, you can't say one style of art is greater than another, the means you have to express within each of them require the same levels of talent to make something worthwhile.

if you really understand Hip Hop, you can see how its classics rival rock's classics.

oDoUoSoKo
01-28-2009, 07:14 PM
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"i got somethin to say, id rape your mother today...

doesn't matter much to me as long as she spread..."

"i got somethin to say, ill kill your baby today...

doesn't matter much to me as long as its dead..."

Classic tune
fuckin adore that song.

Longbongcilvaringz
01-29-2009, 03:34 AM
i really can't see how ppl like ozzie and black sabbath cause so much of it is just a person hammering the same chords with 0 rhymth.

i always ask the fans how they tell a dope song from that genre from a wack one


haha

what the fuck?

TSA
01-29-2009, 03:41 AM
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Longbongcilvaringz
01-29-2009, 04:50 AM
?

Have you ever listened to Black Sabbath?

In particular, their first 5 albums?

Durag
01-29-2009, 05:09 AM
I dunno if you fags have any of the same bands we do here, but if you dont, then THANK FUCKIN GOD you dont have to put up with the likes of 'Scouting For Girls' and 'The Blizzards' and all these faggy pop-rock bands that are fuckin MASSIVE right now coz all the FAGGOT students listen to them.

They really are the worst from of music out there right now, along with all those horrible clubland albums, people in england might have them to, where they remake songs e.g counrty hits into ultagay dance tunes in the worst way possible. Its absolutly terrible.

9th Warrior
01-31-2009, 03:37 PM
rancid is terrible
props for posting the jerks clip from decline of western civilization though

Paranoid
02-07-2009, 02:40 AM
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metal is hit or miss

stuff like that definitely sucks imo

i hate vocals like that, instrumental wise its fine tho

Paranoid
02-07-2009, 02:41 AM
rancid is terrible
props for posting the jerks clip from decline of western civilization though

meh, for a punk band i'd say Rancid is pretty damn talented

the insignificant
02-15-2009, 12:47 AM
i think the issue is: what is rock n roll?

this discussion veered off course into metal and punk... i guess whether or not you consider these to be forms of the genre will determine whether you think creativity still exists within it... the lines between pop, rock, punk, alternative and metal are are very blurred now...

the difference between now and shaolin assassin's so-called golden eras is that it's trendy to hate whatever is coming out now and to regurgitate the force-fed rubbish that everything in that era was infact golden...

the insignificant
02-15-2009, 12:51 AM
Also Motorhead is probably the most influential band to both the punk and metal genre

They simply kick fucking ass

I dare anyone to name one punk or metal band that can touch them

well they didn't influence punk, but i'll throw in iron maiden as a band that's been more consistent and diverse...

not saying i don't like motorhead though...

irish ins
02-17-2009, 10:56 AM
got high hopes for the new alice in chains album, been listening to a few bands recently and rock is just in a lull of the fresh clean cut wankbags.... but hopefully the emergence of Metallica last year and the chains this year we will see decent rock again

Olive Oil Goombah
02-17-2009, 10:28 PM
alice in chains?? is it old unreleased stuff? Cuz Layne Staley's been dead for a few years now.

oDoUoSoKo
02-17-2009, 11:02 PM
ya they picked up a Hendrix wannabe...eloels.

irish ins
02-21-2009, 12:31 PM
the guy can sing but i'm still not convinced til i hear an original record, no one can replace Layne Stayley - one of the best, but there is still Cantrell

Paranoid
02-21-2009, 04:35 PM
well they didn't influence punk, but i'll throw in iron maiden as a band that's been more consistent and diverse...

not saying i don't like motorhead though...

They definitely did influence a lot of punk bands with their speed metal sound, its the same thing as punk. you will see alot of punk bands(Rancid one of them) shouting out motorhead as their favorite band

motorhead was around before punk or metal were even their own established genres
they paved the way for both

DRUNKENDRAGON
02-21-2009, 04:40 PM
I reached a point a few years back where i became utterly sick of hearing a distorted guitar on almost every single rock/metal song.

Paranoid
02-23-2009, 03:52 PM
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Still remains my favorite band

Edgar Erebus
02-24-2009, 09:07 AM
I reached a point a few years back where i became utterly sick of hearing a distorted guitar on almost every single rock/metal song.

If only rock existed for more than 50 years, and if only there existed bands that aren't metal and that don't use distorted loud guitars.


If only there were rock songs that don't use guitar at all!

TSA
02-24-2009, 01:53 PM
all the shit speak on it god posted was ass

Suga Duga
02-24-2009, 02:12 PM
Rage against the machine is the only rock band that kicks ass in my book (audioslave's first album was dope aswell).

why RATM is ill:
raw sound. political. aggressive hooks. somebody's SPITTIN. almost every track builds up and ends up being even faster, greater and harder than the first 3 minutes. brad wilk and tim commerford are rhythm monsters. they covered rakim. they covered cypress hill.


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E F F E C T!!

Paranoid
02-24-2009, 03:18 PM
Rage against the machine is the only rock band that kicks ass in my book (audioslave's first album was dope aswell).

why RATM is ill:
raw sound. political. aggressive hooks. somebody's SPITTIN. almost every track builds up and ends up being even faster, greater and harder than the first 3 minutes. brad wilk and tim commerford are rhythm monsters. they covered rakim. they covered cypress hill.


-ckcsFZx-xA


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E F F E C T!!


rage is just fucking awesome