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whitey
01-27-2009, 05:00 PM
(CNN) -- For years after his NFL career ended, Ted Johnson could barely muster the energy to leave his house.




"I'd [leave to] go see my kids for maybe 15 minutes," said Johnson. "Then I would go back home and close the curtains, turn the lights off and I'd stay in bed. That was my routine for two years.
"Those were bad days."
These days, the former linebacker is less likely to recount the hundreds of tackles, scores of quarterback sacks or the three Super Bowl rings he earned as a linebacker for the New England Patriots. He is more likely to talk about suffering more than 100 concussions.
"I can definitely point to 2002 when I got back-to-back concussions. That's where the problems started," said Johnson, who retired after those two concussions. "The depression, the sleep disorders (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Sleep_Disorders) and the mental fatigue."
Until recently, the best medical definition for concussion was a jarring blow to the head that temporarily stunned the senses, occasionally leading to unconsciousness. It has been considered an invisible injury, impossible to test -- no MRI, no CT scan can detect it.
But today, using tissue from retired NFL (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/NFL_Football) athletes culled posthumously, the Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy (CSTE), at the Boston University School of Medicine, is shedding light on what concussions look like in the brain. The findings are stunning. Far from innocuous, invisible injuries, concussions confer tremendous brain damage. That damage has a name: chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE).




On Tuesday afternoon, researchers at the CSTE released a study about the sixth documented case of CTE in former NFL player Tom McHale, who died in 2008 at the age of 45, and the youngest case to date, an 18-year-old multi-sport athlete who suffered multiple concussions.
While CTE in an ex-NFL player's brain may have been expected, the beginnings of brain damage in an 18-year-old brain was a "shocking" finding, according to Dr. Ann McKee, a neuropathologist at the Veterans Administration Hospital in Bedford, Massachusetts, and co-director of the CSTE.
"We think this is how chronic traumatic encephalopathy starts," said McKee. "This is speculation, but I think we can assume that this would have continued to expand."
CTE has thus far been found in the brains of six out of six former NFL players.
"What's been surprising is that it's so extensive," said McKee. "It's throughout the brain, not just on the superficial aspects of the brain, but it's deep inside."
CSTE studies reveal brown tangles flecked throughout the brain tissue of former NFL players who died young -- some as early as their 30s or 40s.
McKee, who also studies Alzheimer's disease (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Alzheimer_s_Disease), says the tangles closely resemble what might be found in the brain of an 80-year-old with dementia.
"I knew what traumatic brain disease looked like in the very end stages, in the most severe cases," said McKee. "To see the kind of changes we're seeing in 45-year-olds is basically unheard of."
The damage affects the parts of the brain that control emotion, rage, hypersexuality, even breathing, and recent studies find that CTE is a progressive disease that eventually kills brain cells.
Chris Nowinski knows well the impact of concussions. He was a football star at Harvard before wrestling professionally (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Professional_Wrestling) with World Wrestling Entertainment.


In one moment, his dreams of a long career wrestling were dashed by a kick to his chin. That kick, which caused Nowinski to black out and effectively ended his career, capped a career riddled with concussions.
"My world changed," said Nowinski. "I had depression. I had memory problems. My head hurt for five years."
Nowinski began searching for studies, and what he found startled him.
"I realized when I was visiting a lot of doctors, they weren't giving me very good answers about what was wrong with my head," said Nowinski. "I read [every study I could find] and I realized there was a ton of evidence showing concussions lead to depression, and multiple concussion can lead to Alzheimer's."
Nowinski decided further study was needed, so he founded the Sports Legacy Institute along with Dr. Robert Cantu, a neurosurgeon and the co-director of the CSTE. The project solicits for study the brains of ex-athletes who suffered multiple concussions.
Once a family agrees to donate the brain, it is delivered to scientists at the CSTE to look for signs of damage.
So far, the evidence of CTE is compelling.
The Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy, along with other research institutions, has now identified traumatic encephalopathy in the brains of late NFL football players John Grimsley, Mike Webster, Andre Waters, Justin Strzelczyk and Terry Long, in addition to McHale.
Grimsley died of an accidental gunshot wound to the chest. Webster, Long and Strzelczyk all died after long bouts of depression (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Depression), while Waters committed suicide in 2006 at age 44. McHale was found dead last year of an apparent drug overdose.
"Guys were dying," said Nowinski. "The fact of the matter was guys were dying because they played sports 10 or 20 years before."
So far, around 100 athletes have consented to have their brains studied after they die.
Ted Johnson was one of the first to sign up. He said he believes that concussions he suffered while playing football explain the anger, depression and throbbing headaches that occasionally still plague him.
Johnson said he played through concussions because he, like many other NFL athletes, did not understand the consequences. He has publicly criticized the NFL for not protecting players like him.
"They don't want you to know," said Johnson. "It's not like when you get into the NFL there's a handout that says 'These are the effects of multiple concussions so beware.' "

In a statement, the NFL indicated that their staffs take a cautious, conservative approach to managing concussions.
While they support research into the impact of concussions, they maintain that, "Hundreds of thousands of people have played football and other sports without experiencing any problem of this type and there continues to be considerable debate within the medical community on the precise long-term effects of concussions and how they relate to other risk factors."
The NFL is planning its own independent medical study of retired NFL players on the long-term effects of concussion.
"Really my main reason even for talking about this is to help the guys who are already retired," said Johnson. "[They] are getting divorced, going bankrupt, can't work, are depressed, and don't know what's wrong with them. [It is] to give them a name for it so they can go get help."
"The idea that you can whack your head hundreds of times in your life and knock yourself out and get up and be fine is gone," said Nowinski. "We know we can't do that anymore. This causes long-term damage."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/26/athlete.brains/index.html




I don't get whos trying to play a sport that is straight killing you. That shit is wack. I dont mind watching it, but f all that. All that money those dudes make they can't even live a proper life after they are done with the game because there domes all messed up.

whitey
01-28-2009, 01:16 AM
this is cnn.coms title to that article.

Football players' brains show stunning damage (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/26/athlete.brains/index.html)

this is espn's title to basically that same article...





Study: Late NFL player had brain condition (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3864644) http://assets.espn.go.com/icons/watch.pnglike those two dick and harrys arent in cahoots together.

SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS
01-28-2009, 02:30 AM
i mean you can make that case for wrestling look what happened to Chris Beniot which was mad tragic. every action you do to your body has a consequence

whitey
01-28-2009, 08:20 AM
that was totally different. beniot was using illegal performance enhancing drugs that most likley contributed heavily to what he did.

half of football is just trying to hit people has hard as they can. even harder because they dont have fear (they think) of head injuries because of the helmet. they dont feel the damage they are doing to their brain.

in that study even the 18 year old they scanned already was starting to show signs of damage. shit they said that one dude who was in his 40s showed a bran scan that looked like an 80 year old with dementia.

knowing that would happen i doubt many people in here would trade that cash for a pile of a brain at 45. idk maybe some would. who knows in this place.

Ghost In The 'Lac
01-28-2009, 09:02 AM
yep

they havent even started looking into knowing how much internal damage the continual pounding is doing to their bodys

I heard people say they should shorten the season more, but its already pretty fucking short as it is, maybe they just need to figure out better padding

Olive Oil Goombah
01-28-2009, 11:24 AM
Listen...

...when you box, you kno the risks.

When you play football, you kno the risk of injury on your body is high.
That is what makes it such a beloved sport. These guys are sort of like modern day gladiators.

Whitey, if its too physical a game for you and you can't stomach it, stick to soccer or tennis.

The rest of us men will watch football.

b-dolo
01-28-2009, 11:36 AM
I just got done reading a book by former carolina panther jason peter, called hero of the underground. Basically the book entails how injuries in the nfl lead him to an addiction to pain pills to cocaine to crack and finnaly to herion. and the struggle to get sober.

Dirty Knowledge
01-28-2009, 10:49 PM
CNN is for fags.

whitey
01-29-2009, 06:09 AM
Listen...

...when you box, you kno the risks.

When you play football, you kno the risk of injury on your body is high.
That is what makes it such a beloved sport. These guys are sort of like modern day gladiators.

Whitey, if its too physical a game for you and you can't stomach it, stick to soccer or tennis.

The rest of us men will watch football.

hah, the typical neanderthal response. look this is 2009 not the middle ages. like ive said before, i watch the game, i never said it cannot be entertaining. that doesnt mean i cant think its not retarded as fuck. trying to imply only men exclusivley watch football is pathetic and does nothing to prove any sort of point.

these guys know the risks to the body are high, but thats the thing, the nfl doesnt go out of their way to tell these plays what they are really doing to their brains. i doubt many even know the extensive damage they are doing and some would think twice about getting out after they heard it.

and soccer you actually need your brain, so that might explain some stuff. but thats not what this thread is about.


CNN is for fags.

so is sucking dicks, so you might want to think about cutting that shit out.

The Hound
01-29-2009, 06:13 AM
easily the most boring sport i've ever watched

i watched some guy the other day for 10 minutes and nothing happened ... they ran the play which lasted 15 seconds and then it took 10 minutes for it start up again ... wtf is up with that?

helmets? LOL ... fackin qweagh's

Olive Oil Goombah
01-29-2009, 10:16 AM
easily the most boring sport i've ever watched

i watched some guy the other day for 10 minutes and nothing happened ... they ran the play which lasted 15 seconds and then it took 10 minutes for it start up again ... wtf is up with that?

helmets? LOL ... fackin qweagh's


get over it. Americans will always think your queer for liking your boring sport that you riot over (which is the funniest part).

hah, the typical neanderthal response. look this is 2009 not the middle ages. like ive said before, i watch the game, i never said it cannot be entertaining. that doesnt mean i cant think its not retarded as fuck. trying to imply only men exclusivley watch football is pathetic and does nothing to prove any sort of point.

these guys know the risks to the body are high, but thats the thing, the nfl doesnt go out of their way to tell these plays what they are really doing to their brains. i doubt many even know the extensive damage they are doing and some would think twice about getting out after they heard it.

and soccer you actually need your brain, so that might explain some stuff. but thats not what this thread is about.




so is sucking dicks, so you might want to think about cutting that shit out.

you really know nothing about the game of football. were you too scrawny to play it or something? This seems like a deep personal issue with you.

I've played soccer and I enjoyed it, but that shit is BORING to watch. I'd rather watch the cooking channel.

whitey
01-29-2009, 12:20 PM
trying to insult me because i think football is retarded is weak. it has nothing to with my physical makeup. im 5'10, 175, and fit, not fat. im not struggling getting chicks or being picked on or whatever gayness your thinking. its just that i have a brain, and appreciate how it works and what it can do for a person. to go and just smash it to shit so a bunch of retards can high five each other and spill beer on the people in front of them is idiotic.

i do get the game of football. i get it a lot. i understand it, just because i dont think tis the greatest thing ever created doenst mean i dont get it.


the reason why you dont like watching soccer is because you dont understand it, same as a lot of americans. you can play the game and still not understand the game. like ive said before when you understand the skill involved and movements of players and everything its much more enjoyable.



but whatever, once again your points had nothing to do with refuting how retarded football is. like i said im not saying its not fun to watch and or play, but why not just smash your head into a wall 50 times a day. that could be entertaining for people to watch, some would even call that head smasher a gladiator, but it doesnt change the fact that its retarded.

Olive Oil Goombah
01-29-2009, 12:36 PM
football aint even my favorite sport to watch nor play.

But compared to soccer, that shit is vastly superior.

you have some vendetta against football for some reason.

I never said soccer wasn't enjoyable to play or a good game, its just boring as fuck to watch on TV. I'd literally rather watch one of the auction shows.

whitey
01-30-2009, 06:06 PM
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whitey
01-30-2009, 06:08 PM
i still dont get your logic. because i think something is gay i must have a vendetta against it? i feel you think just because im an American who plays soccer and doesn't want to suck every NFL players cock that there must be something deeper than me just thinking the shit is gay.


do i have a vendetta against lil wayne because i think hes wack and sucks? thats basically what you saying.


logical arguments backed with fact here nicky, come on kid.

The Hound
01-30-2009, 06:14 PM
get over it. Americans will always think your queer for liking your boring sport that you riot over (which is the funniest part).

funny part is i follow rugby league which is twice as physical as NFL as they don't wear faggy tights and head to toe padding and helmets

lol there was an NFL player come down to play rugby league and he got absolutely cut in half on the field and quit rugby league 3 or 4 games later

Olive Oil Goombah
01-30-2009, 08:11 PM
i never said anything about rugby.

this is what im talking about. YOur guys hate on American Football for some weird reason because americans dont play soccer.

I mean rugby is tough but rugby players usually arent talented enough to play in the NFL unless they are punters.