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Visionz
02-02-2009, 10:18 PM
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Look at the symbols for each.
Positivity itself (the symbol of) suggest the ability to transcend. People in general don't seem to have a positive mindset these days (just look at all the ebeef around you) its a weird, strange thing.

The negative symbolically suggest any lack of progression. And if you connected all the negativity together you'd get a flatline of death.

If the world dies and humans cease to exist it will be because we where not positive enough as individuals to save either ourselves or those around us.

LORD NOSE
02-02-2009, 10:20 PM
why do we need both ?

Visionz
02-02-2009, 10:24 PM
why do we need both ?
physics needs both, humans don't but its ingrained into the physics of our nature so its hard to shake off.

diggy
02-02-2009, 11:01 PM
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the Positive
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Look at the symbols for each.
Positivity itself (the symbol of) suggest the ability to transcend. People in general don't seem to have a positive mindset these days (just look at all the ebeef around you) its a weird, strange thing.

The negative symbolically suggest any lack of progression. And if you connected all the negativity together you'd get a flatline of death.

If the world dies and humans cease to exist it will be because we where not positive enough as individuals to save either ourselves or those around us.


Nice analysis.

I've noticed alot of negativity amongst people as well - beastly ways.

It's like a jungle sometimes...

Uncle Steezo
02-05-2009, 12:31 AM
murder which was caused when you fuck with the negative and positive charge


negativity toward others is often rooted in one's negative image of himself.
people tend to transpose their own insecurities and shortcomings onto others then attack it. they see what they don't like about themselves.

Visionz
02-05-2009, 02:05 AM
murder which was caused when you fuck with the negative and positive charge


negativity toward others is often rooted in one's negative image of himself.
people tend to transpose their own insecurities and shortcomings onto others then attack it. they see what they don't like about themselves.
What does that say for one who likes almost everyone?

TSA
02-05-2009, 06:45 AM
both positive and negative as far as human behavior is what you make it, just like the symbols, so you can't really base anything off them cause they're baseless outside of personal and societal bias.

If someone is beating kids because it makes them feel good is this, minus societal bias, not positive for him though negative for the kids? why is the beaters positive feeling and understanding from beating kids ignored and viewed through the perspective of the kids?

both concepts as far as behavior have no base and a 'positive charge' could have been called negative if that scientist who named them so chose to do so or gave them different symbols.

Visionz
02-05-2009, 03:22 PM
both positive and negative as far as human behavior is what you make it, just like the symbols, so you can't really base anything off them cause they're baseless outside of personal and societal bias.

If someone is beating kids because it makes them feel good is this, minus societal bias, not positive for him though negative for the kids? why is the beaters positive feeling and understanding from beating kids ignored and viewed through the perspective of the kids?

both concepts as far as behavior have no base and a 'positive charge' could have been called negative if that scientist who named them so chose to do so or gave them different symbols.I call bullshit.
First, personal and societal perception is really all there is. If I'm wrong just point out the place that exist without them. Second, if you follow that example as you've posted then Ted Bundy is justified as murdering people braught him joy regardless of his victims feelings?

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are real regardless of social construct, real even if there was no words or symbols to either describe or represent what they mean.

LORD NOSE
02-05-2009, 04:22 PM
give some examples of what exactly both are

TSA
02-06-2009, 01:11 AM
I call bullshit.
First, personal and societal perception is really all there is. If I'm wrong just point out the place that exist without them. Second, if you follow that example as you've posted then Ted Bundy is justified as murdering people braught him joy regardless of his victims feelings?

Negative -, Positive +

are real regardless of social construct, real even if there was no words or symbols to either describe or represent what they mean.
Or are the victims bitching regardless of Teddy Bundy's need to kill ppl?
obviously the guy has a need to do it and in his perspective it's positive

what society and religion do is try to give a basic format of who's perspective to take but you can't say positive and negative has a tangible existance cause of this.

like sunny winters said, post examples of both

Visionz
02-06-2009, 12:52 PM
Or are the victims bitching regardless of Teddy Bundy's need to kill ppl?
obviously the guy has a need to do it and in his perspective it's positive

what society and religion do is try to give a basic format of who's perspective to take but you can't say positive and negative has a tangible existance cause of this.

like sunny winters said, post examples of both

it all comes down to the golden rule, if you do it to someone else then you should be ok with that same thing happening to you.

In this scenario Ted would be dead. I don't believe in making excuses for reptilian behavior as those kinda actions serve our most base desires (-). Being human is rising above that shit (+)

Koolish
02-06-2009, 01:17 PM
there needs to be an objective sense of positive and negative in order for morals to hold ground.

in the subjective sense of positive, ted bundy's killing was a positive for him.

in the objective sense of positive, ted bundy's killing was a negative for the victim, the victim's family, ted bundy's family, the community...