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Huggasaurus Sex
02-06-2009, 10:26 PM
almost 2 years old now but i'm sure a lot of people who just woke up in time for linx 2 have slept on this great rae-ghost collab.

kEVapanAD08

http://www.zshare.net/audio/55221753451ddee4/

i like how animated ghost gets ("baseheads taste my shit like starks whats the hell's in there?") and rae delivers a nice story (better than his verses on HGW and yolanda).

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3767/raekwon20ghostface20kiljx6.jpg

Huggasaurus Sex
02-06-2009, 10:32 PM
fak

someone move this to wu chamber before the gen chat crowd realizes it's at a wu-tang forum thanks

Ghost In The 'Lac
02-06-2009, 10:37 PM
im not a big fan of ghost on structured songs like thisx (and wu ooh). i didnt like this verses but hes better when its loose idk how to describe it. it takes something away from what he does. whenever ghost got a hot verses they should just let him takeover the track howevr. like hes does on The W (jah world, i cant go to sleep) alot, SC, and most of other shit in the 90's.

you know putting ghost and shit on ok 1 verse, hook, 1 verse, hook, 1 verse, hook, end. its just a bit disrespectul to his talents.

off topic but

he doesnt need hooks at all like that. hooks are ok, soul controller good example, but he dont need em. Look at tracks like Wise, Wisdom Body whatevr, just let him style on it. Dont cage him in with structures and shit/ Thats part of where Wu Ooh went wrong, and why it isnt classic material.

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
02-06-2009, 10:42 PM
This particular hook was garbo, like pretty much anything a Theordore Unit member has ever done, but I thought the track was solid overall, and Rae sounded really good.

I see what you're saying about a free-form ghost, but I liked his flow a lot on this one as well.

What album is this from?

Huggasaurus Sex
02-06-2009, 10:49 PM
im not a big fan of ghost on structured songs like thisx (and wu ooh). i didnt like this verses but hes better when its loose idk how to describe it. it takes something away from what he does. whenever ghost got a hot verses they should just let him takeover the track howevr. like hes does on The W (jah world, i cant go to sleep) alot, SC, and most of other shit in the 90's.

you know putting ghost and shit on ok 1 verse, hook, 1 verse, hook, 1 verse, hook, end. its just a bit disrespectul to his talents.

off topic but

he doesnt need hooks at all like that. hooks are ok, soul controller good example, but he dont need em. Look at tracks like Wise, Wisdom Body whatevr, just let him style on it. Dont cage him in with structures and shit/ Thats part of where Wu Ooh went wrong, and why it isnt classic material.

do you like any recent ghost verses?


dan this is off DJ muro's tokyo tribe 2 album but i don't know who that is or what the album was about

Huggasaurus Sex
02-06-2009, 10:54 PM
and it's ok if a song has a hook. clipse of doom is one of ghost's illest freestyle cuts from recent years and that has trife on the hook. i actually really like that hook too. it's mesmerizing. i guess while i'm at it i might as well throw in another great track from wally champ

clipse of doom remix
T1PIKdqUGFw

ghost in top "loose style" form

Ghost In The 'Lac
02-06-2009, 10:56 PM
stolen scrips, angels, both ill ghost verses.

and also both clearly NOT ghostwritten.

Unless I can be 100% sure its not at all trife ghostwritten, I cant really feel it too much.


p.s i dont have problem with hooks, dont miiscontrue what i mean

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
02-06-2009, 11:03 PM
I have nothing against hooks, but I hate everything about theodore except the occasional cappa verse.

I like ghost with a classic rnb/soul sample for a hook/interlude

Walk Around, Motherless Child, Big Girl, come to mind immediately.

My favorite thing about ghosts is the soul he brings to the game, and I think the classic rnb compliments that shit the best.

That is why Ironman is still one of my favorite albums of any genre. Because of all that soul.

Ghost In The 'Lac
02-06-2009, 11:10 PM
Yeah I just dont see the reason for Theodore.

I mean its not like anyone actually likes them, so why are they getting valued airtime on Ghostface Killah songs? Why are they there lol? I know Ghost needs weedcarriers now at his age especially, but actually putting them on songs is absurd.

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
02-06-2009, 11:17 PM
Yeah I just dont see the reason for Theodore.

I mean its not like anyone actually likes them, so why are they getting valued airtime on Ghostface Killah songs? Why are they there lol? I know Ghost needs weedcarriers now at his age especially, but actually putting them on songs is absurd.

Trife isn't even that bad, but I hate his flow and the sound of his voice. I remember when I first heard about theodore, I was like "oh shit, if this is ghost's handpicked crew, I bet each one of them must bring something fresh to the table. I can't wait to see what theyre about"

You've got one of the most skilled, soulful, unique rappers ever, and he chooses to surround himself with the most generic crew ever.

Ghost can do whatever he wants, but how did he find them? I mean, were ghost and shawn wiggs friends back in the day??

And I understnad him letting his kid in, and I kind of like that 1 cut where they go back and forth, but I just don't get it.

Ghost In The 'Lac
02-06-2009, 11:23 PM
Trife's real name is 'Theo' LOL. I only found that out yesterday.

They should rename it Theobore Unit. Or Theo-draws rhymes for ghostface unit.

TSA
02-06-2009, 11:27 PM
trife is a fuckin blow gambler on tracks. he's dope.

I dont like when ghost verses are too predictable though except for his purposefully predictable 36 chambers era styled verse. They're sick as fuck.


8FL3T8W0pGI
this is the rich. you're not.

Huggasaurus Sex
02-06-2009, 11:42 PM
trife isn't all that interesting but he has a certain style and is a competent rapper. never gonna be a superstar but better than a lot of second tier rappers.

solomon childs has a scary voice and is pretty good on hooks. he's a role player.

after slang prostitution came out without a single theodore member on it, i'm pretty sure we can say he's not really part of the group.

shawn wigs sucks but i don't get caught up in it as much as other people do on this site. actually i remember around the time SC and the w came out how people were always complaining that cappa ruined every song, the same way people complain about wigs... as if it was impossible to enjoy the song just because cappa rhymed in his sloppy off beat style for a few bars. it was stupid...

anyway, ghost probably thinks he's doing a charitable thing by hooking his friends up with a verse or two on his album. they haven't really been too prevalent on his albums aside from more fish, which is excusable given the nature of the album.

every album, even a lot of the classics, has a few uninspired verses but as long as the music is good and there's enough great material on the rest of the disc then it shouldn't detract from the album.

Huggasaurus Sex
02-06-2009, 11:46 PM
trife is a fuckin blow gambler on tracks. he's dope.

I dont like when ghost verses are too predictable though except for his purposefully predictable 36 chambers era styled verse. They're sick as fuck.


8FL3T8W0pGI
this is the rich. you're not.

i don't know what the deal is with that track -- when it was written, who produced the beat -- but if rae and ghost didn't take those same verses and rerecord them for linx 2 then they fucked up.

i cannot believe they let possibly their best all-time back n forth story track be relegated to a mixtape.

it's insane...

EAGLE EYE
02-07-2009, 12:23 AM
i don't know what the deal is with that track -- when it was written, who produced the beat -- but if rae and ghost didn't take those same verses and rerecord them for linx 2 then they fucked up.

i cannot believe they let possibly their best all-time back n forth story track be relegated to a mixtape.

it's insane...


Soft Wu Corp skin.


converted to Eskimo Hide = low grade sandpaper and baby seal pussy

SKAMPOE
02-07-2009, 12:28 AM
ya dumb lemon head niggaz aint even know rae's verse is talkin bout capone and nore beef..

EAGLE EYE
02-07-2009, 12:41 AM
knew that the second or 3rd time. Not that hard to figure out.


Noreaga has a turkey belly btw

SKAMPOE
02-07-2009, 12:42 AM
nore is a made man, hes good in any hood..

Huggasaurus Sex
02-07-2009, 12:56 AM
Soft Wu Corp skin.


converted to Eskimo Hide = low grade sandpaper and baby seal pussy

i'm chilling out by the pool today what are you doing coolio?

Ghost In The 'Lac
02-07-2009, 09:15 AM
ya dumb lemon head niggaz aint even know rae's verse is talkin bout capone and nore beef..

I BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS SONN

I made a thread a bout it aaaaages ago but alot of people werent buying it, everyone was like "naah they never robbed CNN, CNN are too hard to be rpbbed by Ghost"

YEAH SERIOUS PEOPLE WERE SAYING THIS TO ME LOL!!!!

And im surrr Ghost wore CNN;s chains for some photoshoot, it might of been Source im not sure, and it might off been a grenade Chain...

Oh and FIRM the track was made around BPW era. There is anoter track on SC that describes the same scene in less detail.

Huggasaurus Sex
02-07-2009, 09:43 AM
how do you know the rich was made around the time of BPW? that's about what i would've assumed but how do you know for sure?

plus which track on SC describes that scene? (the one where the parrot got shot?)

Longbongcilvaringz
02-07-2009, 10:05 AM
this Track Is my Shit.

Ghost In The 'Lac
02-07-2009, 11:03 AM
I cant rememeber how I know, I just know it was.

And it was btw, you can tell just by listening to it that its BPW style all over.

Ghost Deini was one of the songs that relates to this also "2 rappers got stuck that night, I aint saying no names, they know who, thankyou for the chains"

pep
02-07-2009, 11:20 AM
i don't know what the deal is with that track -- when it was written, who produced the beat -- but if rae and ghost didn't take those same verses and rerecord them for linx 2 then they fucked up.

i cannot believe they let possibly their best all-time back n forth story track be relegated to a mixtape.

it's insane...
complete co sign..i feel the same way about the smith bros remix which had an incredible chemistry..

Paranoid
02-07-2009, 03:26 PM
good track

why is this in gen chat?