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SKANK HILL
03-08-2009, 01:22 AM
Any Van Halen fans in these parts?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Van_halen_album_cover.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/VanHalenVanHalenII.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Van_Halen_-_Women_and_Children_First.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Van_Halen_-_Fair_Warning.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Van_Halen_-_Diver_Down.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/VanHalen_1984_fcover.jpg

In these last few days I've really started to delve deep into their catalogue, 1984 was the only album I had fully listened to, and I'm convinced their first 6 albums with David Lee Roth are all fucking fantastic. You really would have to be a nit picker to find a terrible song on any of their albums between "Van Halen" and "1984." Right now, "Van Halen" and "Diver Down" are my favourite. Eddie would have to seriosly by top 5 Guitarists ever at best, and at worst top 10. This version of "Eruption" is probably the best live solo i've ever seen - in person or on video.

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I haven't heard anything from Van Halen (to my knowledge) other than with David Lee Roth fronting the band, so what are the rest of their catalogue like? Any recommendations from their later material?

SKANK HILL
03-08-2009, 10:30 PM
There is no love for Van Halen?

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benzo
03-17-2009, 03:40 PM
The rest of their catalogue is ass. I wouldn't recommend any "Van-Hagar" at all....their greatness died with 1984.

Jeru
03-17-2009, 03:55 PM
I like Ice Cream Man

INF
03-17-2009, 03:58 PM
I never really took the time to listen to a whole album but I give Eddie his props for inventing Tapping. I'm pretty sure he invented that technique. I read stories of how he would only do it with his back turned at first so that nobody could see how he did it and jack his shit.


I always see Diver down or 84 as recommendations in top 100 list or whatever but I just might peep a record. I know a lil shop that has cheap Halen vinyls.

oDoUoSoKo
03-17-2009, 06:57 PM
he didnt invent it.

INF
03-17-2009, 07:03 PM
who did? who else tapped the solo like that first?just curious.

INF
03-17-2009, 07:05 PM
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One of the first rock guitarists to record using the tapping technique was Steve Hackett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Hackett) from Genesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_%28band%29) [2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSLcwGFyZRA). Two examples of Hackett's complex tapping can be heard on the song "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_with_the_Moonlit_Knight)", from 1973, and "The Return of the Giant Hogweed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_the_Giant_Hogweed)", from 1971. Harvey Mandel, well-known for his psychedelic guitar playing, also employed 2-handed fretboard tapping in the 1960s. Mandel was one of the first rock guitarists to utilize this technique, years before Eddie Van Halen and Stanley Jordan first appeared.
Tapping was also used by Ace Frehley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_Frehley) as early as 1975, for his live solo at the end of the song "She" during Kiss's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_%28band%29) performance on the Midnight Special. The technique would remain a part of Frehley's solos from 1977 through the Kiss reunion during "Shock Me". Various other guitarists such as Frank Zappa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa), Billy Gibbons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Gibbons) from ZZ Top (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZZ_Top), Brian May (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May) from Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_%28Band%29), Duane Allman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duane_Allman) [3] (http://www.florida-cracker.org/archives/001641.html) from the The Allman Brothers Band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Allman_Brothers_Band) and Leslie West (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_West) from Mountain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_%28band%29) were using the tapping technique in the early 1970s as well. Ace Frehley and Frank Zappa used a guitar pick for their style of tapping.
Eddie Van Halen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Van_Halen) helped popularise the tapping technique for the modern audience and influenced many guitarists in his wake. Thus, many people wrongly assume that Eddie actually invented tapping. His explanation is that he was inspired to use tapping after hearing the fluid left-hand only pull-offs in Jimmy Page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Page)'s guitar solo for "Heartbreaker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbreaker_%28Led_Zeppelin_song%29)", and expanding this technique by adding his right hand finger(s) out of necessity in reaching higher notes. Perhaps the most well known employment of tapping is the short piece "Eruption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruption_%28song%29)" on the first Van Halen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Halen) album which was released in 1978, which features very fast tapping triads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_%28music%29) and formed the blueprint for heavy metal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music) lead playing throughout the 1980s.
During the 1980s two-handed tapping developed much further with many players such as Stanley Jordan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Jordan) using a 2 or more finger tapping technique.
Tapping on the bass guitar was not as popular as the guitar, but in some cases was done before Eddie Van Halen popularized the technique. For examples on bass tapping see Jaco Pastorious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaco_Pastorious), Billy Sheehan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Sheehan), Victor Wooten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Wooten), Stu Hamm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stu_Hamm), John Myung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Myung), and Arif Mirabdolbaghi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arif_Mirabdolbaghi) just to name a few.

benzo
03-18-2009, 07:41 AM
I never really took the time to listen to a whole album but I give Eddie his props for inventing Tapping. I'm pretty sure he invented that technique. I read stories of how he would only do it with his back turned at first so that nobody could see how he did it and jack his shit.


I always see Diver down or 84 as recommendations in top 100 list or whatever but I just might peep a record. I know a lil shop that has cheap Halen vinyls.

You've already heard the first half of '84...they were all big radio hits..Jump, Panama, etc. "Drop Dead Legs" to the end is straight fire.

SKANK HILL
03-18-2009, 05:55 PM
The rest of their catalogue is ass. I wouldn't recommend any "Van-Hagar" at all....their greatness died with 1984.

I figured as much. But still, their six or so albums with David Lee Roth are great. Van Halen I is on heavy rotation atm.

I never really took the time to listen to a whole album but I give Eddie his props for inventing Tapping. I'm pretty sure he invented that technique. I read stories of how he would only do it with his back turned at first so that nobody could see how he did it and jack his shit.


I always see Diver down or 84 as recommendations in top 100 list or whatever but I just might peep a record. I know a lil shop that has cheap Halen vinyls.

Definately check out Diver Down man. Like benzo says you already 1984 without really realising it, I didn't realise how many songs from 1984 I actually heard until I listened to it. If you want som VH hit me up I'll up some shit for you.

CharlesJones
03-20-2009, 02:29 PM
Only song i like by Van Halen is Jump LOL. I'm not a fan of heavy metal artists.

INF
03-20-2009, 02:34 PM
Only song i like by Van Halen is Jump LOL. I'm not a fan of heavy metal artists.


If you at least like Jump then you should try to look into some Heavy Metal. You actually might like a whole album and not even know it.

CharlesJones
03-20-2009, 02:40 PM
I don't wanna hear any heavy metal artists albums. Only rock singers i like is Billy Joel, Hall and Oates, Phil Collins, Huey Lewis And The News, Wham(i can't believe George Michael is gay LOL. I did kinda wonder about him when he was wearing pink clothes in Wake Me Up Before You Go Go video LOL.), Bruce Springsteen(only songs of his i like are Born In The USA, I'm On Fire, Glory Days).

SKANK HILL
03-20-2009, 10:08 PM
:?

oDoUoSoKo
03-21-2009, 07:58 PM
their first album is cool, thats about it.

SKANK HILL
03-21-2009, 08:10 PM
Wrong. :)

Visionz
03-22-2009, 11:01 PM
Their first album and 1984 are the only two albums I'm familiar with. Post some good songs if you can. I was actually have a discussion with a co-worker about them the other day. I had no idea they had 6 albums with DLR so I know there's probably alot of good music I've never heard of.

benzo
03-23-2009, 07:36 AM
I don't wanna hear any heavy metal artists albums. Only rock singers i like is Billy Joel, Hall and Oates, Phil Collins, Huey Lewis And The News, Wham(i can't believe George Michael is gay LOL. I did kinda wonder about him when he was wearing pink clothes in Wake Me Up Before You Go Go video LOL.), Bruce Springsteen(only songs of his i like are Born In The USA, I'm On Fire, Glory Days).

Wow.

CharlesJones
03-28-2009, 11:26 AM
Why did you say wow? I hope you aren't dissing me because of the artists i named that i like.

benzo
03-30-2009, 12:29 PM
^ Nah...just that those artists are far from "metal" and they're all pretty dated, as well. You never check for ANY more modern rock/metal???

Drunken Monk
03-30-2009, 04:50 PM
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