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36chambers
06-15-2005, 09:49 AM
Post all Basketball related stuff here, seeing as theres alot of threads on bball.

U-Samurai
06-16-2005, 02:27 AM
Anybody know whos gonna be unresticted free agants this summer??

o, and Charlie Villanueva has to be the ugliest player to ever enter the nba draft, sorry tyrone hill and jamal mashburn.

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 12:13 PM
Anybody know whos gonna be unresticted free agants this summer??

o, and Charlie Villanueva has to be the ugliest player to ever enter the nba draft, sorry tyrone hill and jamal mashburn.
Why is it that Villanueva has no eyebrows? This link will show you all free agents for 2005. http://probasketball.about.com/od/newsrumorsopinion/a/nbateamneeds05.htm

Da Ryda
06-16-2005, 09:06 PM
Charlotte Bobcats? Shiet... when did that happen?

U-Samurai
06-16-2005, 10:20 PM
Everybody rips on the lakers fucked up season, but wtf happened to the Twolves??

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 11:49 PM
Flip left and the T-Wolves fell apart


DAMN where has ever one been.....?????????

mackiain
06-17-2005, 03:28 AM
Ray Allen is comin to the lakers baby, I heard also Pierce to the Trailblazers

Liquidswordsman
06-17-2005, 11:16 PM
Ray Allen is comin to the lakers baby, I heard also Pierce to the Trailblazers
LOL, they are lucky if they play next year

Rebel_INS
06-18-2005, 02:03 AM
Well my teams the Kings, hopefully we follow through next year and dont have any upsets

ol dirty abbot
06-18-2005, 11:44 PM
I dont like Tim Duncan. So boring that boy is

jaywoods27
06-20-2005, 01:08 AM
robert horry does it again man that guy is clutch

U-Samurai
06-20-2005, 01:36 AM
robert horry is money in the clutch.
how u hear Ray allen gonna go 2 the lakers?

Bone Collecta
06-20-2005, 02:01 AM
Ray Allen is comin to the lakers baby, I heard also Pierce to the Trailblazers
rumors that have been shot down

Liquidswordsman
06-20-2005, 04:10 PM
Horry's 3 was nice..............but damn what a fucking drive and slam!!!! He took off and i was like, 'what the fuck is old man Horry thinking'. then he just snapped it in the hole as Sheed got a face full of Horry's offspring. Horry saved the Spurs and Timmie D.

ol dirty abbot
06-21-2005, 06:22 AM
I officially hate Robert Whorey now. FUCKING SLUT pissed me right of

Ronin
06-21-2005, 10:09 AM
horry threw that nuclear bomb

he did it in slow motion 2 just for effect

TonyStarks29
06-21-2005, 10:28 AM
Man, Horry's dunk was RIDICULOUS. he took off from so far away, and he hurt his shoulder middunk...man, that was amazing. if he put in that much effort for all of the season, he could have been a legendary player.

THE W
06-21-2005, 10:33 AM
Horry's 3 was nice..............but damn what a fucking drive and slam!!!! He took off and i was like, 'what the fuck is old man Horry thinking'. then he just snapped it in the hole as Sheed got a face full of Horry's offspring. Horry saved the Spurs and Timmie D.
yeah he did,

he saved the spurs from tim duncan morphing into shaquille o'neal at the free throw line.

ol dirty abbot
06-22-2005, 10:08 PM
yeah he did,

he saved the spurs from tim duncan morphing into shaquille o'neal at the free throw line. true that

Liquidswordsman
06-23-2005, 12:40 PM
Tonight Is The Night Timmie D Puts His Name Up There With The Greats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spurs By 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Just Hope And Pray That Darko Doesnt Play Cause Then We Are Still In Striking Distance

Eerie Theories
06-23-2005, 02:21 PM
My team is the Kings as well, they need more than shooting.

Eerie Theories
06-23-2005, 02:23 PM
Well my teams the Kings, hopefully we follow through next year and dont have any upsets
Cosign...

They need another star or two to become a team again. They will never get ahead in the playoffs relying on jump shots.

sakk
06-23-2005, 06:49 PM
Anybody got any picks and reasons.

Spurs
theyre at home
tim duncan

TUCO
06-23-2005, 06:52 PM
spurs

peace

kell16
06-23-2005, 06:53 PM
if there at home, Detriot will really have to pull out ben and rip and go to work

cause i know tim and tony won't be fuckin around (stop missin shots tony, eat your damn frosted flakes!!!!!!!!!!!)

jaywoods27
06-23-2005, 06:59 PM
it will be tough, but the Pistons will pull the upset

jaywoods27
06-23-2005, 07:12 PM
Okay im a knick fan but the last game 7 was horrible for knick fans. I mean john starks shooting was as poor as 50 cents new album lol. But the knicks back than were bangers. Robert Horry even said winning his first title was rough he got beat up by that defense

Hayabusa
06-23-2005, 07:29 PM
Lets Go Spurs!!! Come On Timmeh!!!

Liquidswordsman
06-23-2005, 07:39 PM
As long as that faggot in the Valvaline shirt isnt sitting behind Al and Hube i will feel good. That dude pisses me off, look for him when they show al and hube. Spurs are going to win, i see Big Dog Robinson even getting some playing time. Gangster Billups is clutch, but i believe the officiating will dictate the game and the Pistons will be forced to play a less physical game, which is a shame. Horry ring #6, and the big 3 (Timmie D, Manu, Parker) are signed through 2010!!!!! I really like L Brown (TAR HEELS!!!!) and hope he stays as the coach for the Pistons. Final score SA 96 DET 90

FUCK Stuart Scotts lazy eye.

OxlongO
06-23-2005, 07:41 PM
go spurs. but i hope it goes to 2-3 overtimes. duncan, parker, ginobili vs 2wallace's, billups, and rip hamilton. unbelievable match-up for a finals. but of course, the difference once again will be none other than ROBERT figgin HORRY.

he is the reason im pullin for the spurs.

i love this game.

Liquidswordsman
06-23-2005, 07:42 PM
Starks======= 0-11 ======LMAO


where was the Watermellon in that game? Mason was a straight up nasty player, i would never wantto fuck him him. Didnt Buck Williams play on that team too?

OxlongO
06-23-2005, 07:44 PM
lol at stuart scott's lazy eye.

108-106, spurs in OT.

Treazon
06-23-2005, 08:16 PM
Im lookin for Detriot here because of Larry Brown, when theres 2 equally matched teams that can go off at any night, look to the coaching.


its startin now so i gotta run


peace

OxlongO
06-23-2005, 08:49 PM
tayshaun prince is sooo under-rated.
as a defender, as a scorer, as a player. he still young, and he may be the next robert horry.

Treazon
06-23-2005, 09:32 PM
robert horry is under-rated enough too lol....he's so clutch its not even funny

Hayabusa
06-23-2005, 10:59 PM
Wooooooooh!! Spurs Win Nba Title
Timmeh Duncan 3 Rings Biatch!!!!!

Definitive X
06-23-2005, 11:01 PM
^^^I gotta admit...Spurs just overplayed the Pistons, they deserved that title tonight...peace to y'all Spurs fans, it was a classic series...

wu gambino
06-23-2005, 11:05 PM
YAY Spurs win... Spurs win!!!!

Liquidswordsman
06-23-2005, 11:41 PM
Well what a season from Ron Artest to Manu dunking at will in the 4th. The game was a classic. Sheed got fucked. Horry became greatness. Manu dunk at will (LMAO). Ben had like 7 nasty dunks. Billups showed he was ready for whatever they had for him. Rip had his mask, Prince was everywhere. Best of all Elden Cambelle stumbled onto the court (i think he played before the shot clock was invented and with kurt Rabus), some how Big Dogg Robinson won a champioship, and the damn homo in the Valvoline shirt was behind al and hubie!. All i have to say about the game is that any game 7 should be played on a neutral court. Both teams earned their way into the final game of the season, beacuse one won more games in the regular season is a joke. If that game was played in a nutral site i think the game might be still going on. As sure as i am that Bill Walton had fake teeth put in, i know that the Spurs are going to keep this championship run going. No egos on the team, just long term contract through 2010. So as look back on the year all i can think is........Kobe did what to who? Damn what a shame.

Congrats Big Shot Bob, 6 rings is a shit load of diamonds.
Timmie D 3 MVPS and a free ticket the the Hall.
Brent Berry best free agent signing?

Stuart Scott.....................good job on the eye tonight

THE W
06-24-2005, 12:10 AM
this game damn near went the way i said it would. the game would be close for 3 1/2 quarters and the spurs would pull away and win by 8. they won by seven. i gotta start putting money on these things.

i really think that ginobli should've been the MVP but whatever, its all about politics.

when you have series like this its unfortunate that someone has to lose. congrats to the pistons, they did everything but win the series. they should be proud of thier effort.

Liquidswordsman
06-24-2005, 12:15 AM
this game damn near went the way i said it would. the game would be close for 3 1/2 quarters and the spurs would pull away and win by 8. they won by seven. i gotta start putting money on these things.

i really think that ginobli should've been the MVP but whatever, its all about politics.

when you have series like this its unfortunate that someone has to lose. congrats to the pistons, they did everything but win the series. they should be proud of thier effort.
Agreed

Liquidswordsman
06-24-2005, 12:24 AM
tayshaun prince is sooo under-rated.
as a defender, as a scorer, as a player. he still young, and he may be the next robert horry.
Nope, Prince is a Horse Grant/Toni Kukoc type player

Rebel_INS
06-24-2005, 06:03 AM
Looks like SPURS ONE BABY!!!

Definitive X
06-24-2005, 10:40 AM
Well what a season from Ron Artest to Manu dunking at will in the 4th. The game was a classic. Sheed got fucked. Horry became greatness. Manu dunk at will (LMAO). Ben had like 7 nasty dunks. Billups showed he was ready for whatever they had for him. Rip had his mask, Prince was everywhere. Best of all Elden Cambelle stumbled onto the court (i think he played before the shot clock was invented and with kurt Rabus), some how Big Dogg Robinson won a champioship, and the damn homo in the Valvoline shirt was behind al and hubie!. All i have to say about the game is that any game 7 should be played on a neutral court. Both teams earned their way into the final game of the season, beacuse one won more games in the regular season is a joke. If that game was played in a nutral site i think the game might be still going on. As sure as i am that Bill Walton had fake teeth put in, i know that the Spurs are going to keep this championship run going. No egos on the team, just long term contract through 2010. So as look back on the year all i can think is........Kobe did what to who? Damn what a shame.

Congrats Big Shot Bob, 6 rings is a shit load of diamonds.
Timmie D 3 MVPS and a free ticket the the Hall.
Brent Berry best free agent signing?

Stuart Scott.....................good job on the eye tonight
You forgot one more thing--TONY MASSENBURG'S FAT ASS FINALLY GOT A RING!

Ronin
06-24-2005, 11:53 AM
i follow spurs and diddnt see ANY games

fuck sky i need it but dont want it at the same time

duncan was the fucking don i heard, mvp for the play offs right?

jaywoods27
06-24-2005, 12:01 PM
yeah I think buck williams was

Hayabusa
06-24-2005, 12:12 PM
yup. His 3rd Finals MVP trophy. In the classic of Magic,Jordan, and Shaq. The fab 4 now.

Hayabusa
06-24-2005, 12:38 PM
According to the Arizona Republic, the Phoenix Suns have agreed to a deal that would send sharpshooter Quentin Richardson to the New York Knicks for power forward Kurt Thomas.
The trade will free up cap space for the Suns to extend Amare Stoudemire's contract and re-sign free agent Joe Johnson. Richardson, the NBA's leader in made 3-pointers, was reportedly in New York working on a photo shoot when his agent, along with Suns GM and President Bryan Colangelo, informed him of the trade.

"It's a business decision," said Richardson, who signed a six-year contract with Phoenix last season. "It's something that comes along with being a NBA player. I've gotta roll with it."

Thomas is a 10-year NBA veteran who stands to make $14 million over the next two seasons. He averaged 11.5 points and 10.4 rebounds last season for the Knicks.

A conditional first-round pick may also be involved in the deal.

Good Deal for Suns. Knicks should be focused on getting rid of allan houston instead of bringing in a nother SG when they already have houston and Jamal Crawford. Maybe they'll use Q-Dog aw SF.

jR_killa
06-24-2005, 12:46 PM
Duncan played a horrible series, he didn't deserve MVP.

Peace

THE W
06-24-2005, 12:47 PM
gotta do whatcha gotta do.

THE W
06-24-2005, 12:52 PM
Duncan played a horrible series, he didn't deserve MVP.

Peace i totally agree, it should've gone to ginobli, politics as usual.

36chambers
06-24-2005, 01:22 PM
yo we got a basketball thread on sticky, post everything in there.

36chambers
06-24-2005, 01:22 PM
yo we got a basketball thread on sticky, post everything in there.

36chambers
06-24-2005, 01:23 PM
yo we got a basketball thread on sticky, post everything in there.

Hayabusa
06-24-2005, 04:53 PM
Lakers til I die baby. Tim Duncan just my fav big man only reason I was pullin for Spurs plus Horry is a former Laker. Hope Lake show draft a good PG at #10. Reymond Felton would be the dream pick for me or Jarrett Jack from GA Tech.

sakk
06-24-2005, 10:33 PM
Re: Tonight. NBA game 7 for the Title Quote:
Originally Posted by jR_killa
Duncan played a horrible series, he didn't deserve MVP.

Peace

i totally agree, it should've gone to ginobli, politics as usual.


the above is utterly ridiculous
duncan avgd 21 and 14 in finals
the stats ALONE garner the mvp

Hayabusa
06-24-2005, 10:55 PM
cosign sack. Manu dissapeared in games 3-6. While duncan was being consistant and chuggin along gettin his usual double double per game. He might of struggled at FT line but most big men do. Still did everything else that was nessacary.

sakk
06-24-2005, 11:16 PM
dissapeared where
he showed up at least 4 out of 7
two dunks in the 4th of game 7
dissapeared nothing

hahaha

Konii blaze
06-25-2005, 04:29 AM
Duncan is a fucking gay!

Ronin
06-25-2005, 05:30 AM
duncan ownes you all, who else sons most other players and doesnt look like he gives a shit?

Hayabusa
06-25-2005, 10:59 AM
dissapeared where
he showed up at least 4 out of 7
two dunks in the 4th of game 7
dissapeared nothing

hahaha nope not atleast 4 try at most 3 games lmao. Game 1,2, and 7. Games 3,4,5, and 6 he was mr. invisable. Get off the mans nutz. Duncan lead the spurs in points rebounds and blocks. Bruce Bowen and Big shot Rob deserved more consideration than Manu. Only reason he was nice in game 7 was cause timmeH was suckin in two players and kickin out out to ginobili for the 3 or pump fake and drive to hope. Duncan was doin just as much as Manu in games 1,2, and 7 as manu and more in 2 out of his 3 best games in the series at that.

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 01:21 PM
Duncan is a fucking gay!
Wow!

femi ishola
06-25-2005, 01:28 PM
i think tim duncan is d ultimate team mate anyone bball playa can dream of aving, hes excellent, i just luv evrytin dat guy does same as d entire spurs org. bball is my life and i can do anytin 2 play dat game anywere, terrific season nba as bin dis time and fuk all haters my team is champs again

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 01:37 PM
i think tim duncan is d ultimate team mate anyone bball playa can dream of aving, hes excellent, i just luv evrytin dat guy does same as d entire spurs org. bball is my life and i can do anytin 2 play dat game anywere, terrific season nba as bin dis time and fuk all haters my team is champs again
I believe we speak and different language, but from what i got i agree

THE W
06-25-2005, 05:04 PM
tim ducan is everyway a great player. they call him the big fundamental i got another name for him...Mr. Substance. he doesnt go around pumpin his fist a loudmouthin and showboatin, he just shows up to work and gets the GOTDAMN job done.

but i still think manu should be finals MVP.

THE W
06-25-2005, 05:06 PM
Duncan is a fucking gay!
if by gay you mean 3 time champion and 3 time MVP then yes...he's gay alright.

i wanna be "gay" too.

Hayabusa
06-25-2005, 05:32 PM
me 3 wade.

sakk
06-25-2005, 10:22 PM
nope not atleast 4 try at most 3 games lmao. Game 1,2, and 7. Games 3,4,5, and 6 he was mr. invisable. Get off the mans nutz. Duncan lead the spurs in points rebounds and blocks. Bruce Bowen and Big shot Rob deserved more consideration than Manu. Only reason he was nice in game 7 was cause timmeH was suckin in two players and kickin out out to ginobili for the 3 or pump fake and drive to hope. Duncan was doin just as much as Manu in games 1,2, and 7 as manu and more in 2 out of his 3 best games in the series at that.
spurs won the title
manu is one of the ten best players in the league
spurs won the title
what other arguement is there


that ghost song whos the champion is the shit

TrueDciple
06-27-2005, 09:40 AM
Duncan is a fucking gay!


He is weird tho, is something in his voise and the way he talks , i dont know but for a big man he appears to be very soft and weak, He does got talent but at the same time he is very boring to watch. No passion, no attitude, no hype no nothing just scoring and defending. Like a robot, only doing something because he has to doit not because he wants to.

THE W
06-27-2005, 10:04 AM
that robot has 3 NBA titles and 3 finals MVP's(thought manu should've gotten the third) so i would say being a robot is pretty awesome.

sakk
06-27-2005, 05:54 PM
NBA draft is tommorow
My New Orleans Hornets got the 4th pick
they might deal it
hopefully get a big man

What about your teams? Anybody from Milwaukee? Whats Phil Jackson gonna do with the 12th pick? I know Kobe dont wanna play with nobody.

TUCO
06-27-2005, 08:01 PM
who cares?
im a Heat fan

peace

Hayabusa
06-27-2005, 08:09 PM
Lakers have the 10th pick retard lol. Not 12th.

deadlymelody
06-28-2005, 11:36 PM
Raptors are officially retarded. Charlie Leukemia with the 7th? Seriously. Charlie Green was the pick to make.

Hayabusa
06-29-2005, 07:39 AM
Yes indeed they are. Hawks had a great draft. stole best shooter at #1 pick in 2nd round and best player #2 in 1st round.

sakk
06-29-2005, 06:06 PM
New Orleans Hornets had the best draft. Chris Paul and Brandon Bass. New Orleans Hornets gonna be in the Finals next year. What.

THE W
06-29-2005, 06:16 PM
Raptors are officially retarded. Charlie Leukemia with the 7th? Seriously. Charlie Green was the pick to make.
yeah that pick made no GOTdamn sense on any level. he's not gonna sell any tickets and they already got big men and they pass up on shawn may, the highschool kid, and rashon mckantz to get his ass.

the bobcats cleaned house... they still arent gonna win more than 40 games.

deadlymelody
06-29-2005, 08:08 PM
^
Bobcats had a solid draft. I think the Hawks possibly had the best draft though. Marvin Will and Salim will be a crazy combination. Plus, that Josh Smith kid looks promising after that absolute clinic at the dunk contest this year.

Liquidswordsman
06-29-2005, 08:22 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Tarheels2274/a_unc_275.jpg


How did the NBA let these two get on the same team and play in the same state?
UNC! UNC! Good draft overall. It was like all the other drafts. The Jailblazers made a dumb pick (much love nick van Exel), i have NO clue who the Clip's picked, David Stern looked lost evrey time he came out, i have no clue where these foriegn players play, but the courts look like my middle schools old courts. The best pick was Chris Paul at #4; Utah couldnt wait to draft D Will, but come on, do you really think he is going to be able to live up to Pasty Stockton? and his Nutthuggers!!!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Tarheels2274/stock.jpg


THANK GOD JORDAN END THESE DAMN FOOLS

Wayne Simien #29???
Charlie Vill #6????
McCants with the Big Ticket????
The LaL wasting a pick???
Websters moms hat was Crazy

FREE RON ARTEST!!!!!!!!!

Definitive X
07-01-2005, 09:25 AM
The Jazz aren't expecting Deron Williams to live up to John Stockton, but they need something that they haven't had since he left--a solid point guard who will start for two or three or four or etc. seasons. Williams lost 15 lbs. (I don't know how to convert that to the metric system; I'm sure y'all use pounds for something other than money) before the predraft camp. Williams also will fit into Jerry Sloan's system in Utah...but first Carlos Boozer needs a fucking reality check...I think they should deal him for Zach Randolph, get a developing 4, and if they're lucky, a backup small forward...

Hayabusa
07-05-2005, 06:27 PM
SEATTLE (AP) -- All-Star guard Ray Allen (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3080/) gauged his value on the free-agent market before asking the Seattle SuperSonics (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sea/) for a fair deal.

Turns out, a 30-year-old shooting guard coming off his best season is worth about $17 million a year.

Allen agreed to a five-year, $85 million contract extension with Seattle on Tuesday, his agent said. The contract includes $80 million in salary and $5 million in bonuses, although terms of the bonuses and the yearly breakdown of salary hasn't been determined.

Allen became a free agent on July 1, and cannot sign the deal until the free-agent signing period begins on July 22. His agent, Lon Babby, said Allen plans to sign the contract at the first available moment. Allen will turn 30 on July 20.

``When Ray became a free agent and had chance to explore opportunities, we were able to report back to the Sonics on what the market was dictating and they essentially responded accordingly,'' Babby said during a conference call. ``We tried to get it done over these many months, but both sides needed verification from the marketplace.''

Seattle spokesman Marc Moquin said the team couldn't comment on the agreement.

Allen's contract expired at midnight last Friday, and the response from other teams was swift. Babby said when he got into his office that morning, his voice mail was full of messages from interested suitors.

That day, Babby and Allen held conference calls with interested teams in Babby's Washington, D.C. office. Some of the teams had room under the salary cap, while others were seeking possible sign-and-trade options.

``It was a tremendous amount of interest,'' Babby said. ``It was gratifying to Ray in the sense of where he stood.''

The pair then went back to the Sonics.

Allen earned about $14 million last season, and Seattle could have given him a maximum $97 million, five-year extension. The two sides tried to negotiate a new deal during the regular season, and started talks again after the playoffs.

``It took a long, long time, but except for momentary lapses, it was a completely amicable process,'' Babby said. ``I think Ray comes back to Seattle with a peace of mind now that he's seen what is out there and decided the best place for him is in Seattle.''

Expected to be among the worst teams in the NBA last season, Seattle instead shocked the league, winning 52 games and the Northwest Division title -- a year after winning just 37 games.

Allen was the catalyst and leader.

He averaged a career-high 23.9 points per game -- 10th in the league. Allen and his teammates bought into coach Nate McMillan's system, and forward Rashard Lewis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3275/) developed into an All-Star, giving Allen a complimentary talent.

In the playoffs, Seattle beat Sacramento in five games for its first playoff series victory since 1997, before losing to San Antonio in six games in the conference semifinals.

Allen again starred, averaging 26.5 points in 11 playoff games, including a playoff career-high 45 in Game 4 against the Kings.

After the season, Allen indicated his hope of returning.

``That's been my goal the whole time,'' he said.

Now that Allen is in place, Seattle's attention turns to McMillan, whose contract also expired on July 1.

``Nate's situation is certainly a factor,'' said Babby, who would not go into further detail. ``(Ray) is committed to seeing this franchise move forward and succeed and I think he welcomes the opportunity to keep the team intact.''

Allen spent his first 6 1/2 seasons in Milwaukee before moving to Seattle in February 2003 in a trade for Gary Payton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/259/). The UConn grad has averaged 20.6 points over his nine-year career.

Allen is the first of Seattle's nine free agents to agree on a new deal. Other key unrestricted free agents include guard Antonio Daniels (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3175/) and center Jerome James (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3279/).

Last week, the team extended qualifying offers to four restricted free agents, including key reserve forward Vladimir Radmanovic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3522/) and starting power forward Reggie Evans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3663/).

General manager Rick Sund -- who recently signed a three-year contract extension -- said before the NBA Draft that it was unrealistic to think Seattle would resign all of its free agents, but hoped the core would return.

Bringing Allen back was the first step.

``I don't think anyone can question the Sonics' commitment,'' Babby said.

U-Samurai
07-06-2005, 01:32 AM
Ray Allen Made A Good Choice. Its Good For Seattle, But Cavs Are Left Tryin To Pull Michael Redd, Which They Cant Pay As Much As The Bucks Can. I Think Both Larry Hughes And Joe Johnson Will Stay On Their Teams Like Allen Did. And How Come Chicago Wants To Trade Curry?

Hayabusa
07-06-2005, 08:06 AM
Maybe cause they don't wanna deal with his health problems. If they get fair vaule for them wouldn't blame them for trading him.

Wu-Tang 9
07-06-2005, 11:57 PM
Ray Allen is comin to the lakers baby, I heard also Pierce to the Trailblazers
???????? Where are u gettin this from man Ray Allen to the Lakers??

jaywoods27
07-07-2005, 08:07 AM
nate went to portland that sucks

U-Samurai
07-07-2005, 02:21 PM
Michael Redd is staying also...

Hayabusa
07-07-2005, 02:22 PM
Coveted free agent Michael Redd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3442) agreed Thursday to re-sign with the Milwaukee Bucks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mil), choosing to stay with the only NBA team he's played for over LeBron James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3704) and the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=cle). "He's going to get a max deal in Milwaukee for $90 to $96 million, depending on what the cap is, over six years," Redd's agent, Kevin Poston, told The Associated Press early Thursday afternoon. "Michael started his career in Milwaukee and hopes to end it there, too.

"It was a tough decision between the Bucks and the Cavaliers, but Michael's heart is in Milwaukee and he's excited about his future there," Poston added.

Redd, who was the top remaining free agent available, met with James and Cavs officials in Cleveland on Wednesday, one day after meeting with the Bucks.

The 6-foot-6 shooting guard averaged a career-high 23 points, 4.2 rebounds and 2.3 assists last season. He has averaged 17.7 points while making 39.4 percent of his 3-point shots since Milwaukee drafted him in second round, with the 43rd overall pick, in the 2000 NBA draft.

Poston said Redd, who turns 26 in August, is excited about playing with former Utah center Andrew Bogut (http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/d05/tracker/player?playerId=18715), the No. 1 pick overall in last month's draft, and for the Bucks' next coach.

"Michael had Andrew have spoken at great length and are really looking forward to starting something special in Milwaukee," said Poston, an agent based in suburban Detroit. "We also know who the Bucks are focused in on to be their next coach, and Michael is very comfortable with him."

The Bucks signed Bogut to a multiyear contract last week and have been searching for a new coach since firing Terry Porter last month. ESPN.com's Andy Katz reported Thursday that the Bucks are expected to hire Warriors assistant Terry Stotts.

Coveted free agent Michael Redd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3442) agreed Thursday to re-sign with the Milwaukee Bucks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mil), choosing to stay with the only NBA team he's played for over LeBron James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3704) and the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=cle).

"He's going to get a max deal in Milwaukee for $90 to $96 million, depending on what the cap is, over six years," Redd's agent, Kevin Poston, told The Associated Press early Thursday afternoon. "Michael started his career in Milwaukee and hopes to end it there, too.

"It was a tough decision between the Bucks and the Cavaliers, but Michael's heart is in Milwaukee and he's excited about his future there," Poston added.

Redd, who was the top remaining free agent available, met with James and Cavs officials in Cleveland on Wednesday, one day after meeting with the Bucks.

The 6-foot-6 shooting guard averaged a career-high 23 points, 4.2 rebounds and 2.3 assists last season. He has averaged 17.7 points while making 39.4 percent of his 3-point shots since Milwaukee drafted him in second round, with the 43rd overall pick, in the 2000 NBA draft.

Poston said Redd, who turns 26 in August, is excited about playing with former Utah center Andrew Bogut (http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/d05/tracker/player?playerId=18715), the No. 1 pick overall in last month's draft, and for the Bucks' next coach.

"Michael had Andrew have spoken at great length and are really looking forward to starting something special in Milwaukee," said Poston, an agent based in suburban Detroit. "We also know who the Bucks are focused in on to be their next coach, and Michael is very comfortable with him."

The Bucks signed Bogut to a multiyear contract last week and have been searching for a new coach since firing Terry Porter last month. ESPN.com's Andy Katz reported Thursday that the Bucks are expected to hire Warriors assistant Terry Stotts. Cool deal for Redd get all the money u can out there man while u can.

Definitive X
07-08-2005, 11:08 AM
Bucks will be the number 8 seed next year...they're certainly going to be better than they were last year...

Hayabusa
07-08-2005, 12:29 PM
Yeah, Hopefully T.J. Ford comes back and does he thing like he did in Texas.

bob99digi
07-08-2005, 12:34 PM
Larry Hughes has reportedly agreed to a 5yr deal with Cleveland.

Hayabusa
07-08-2005, 02:36 PM
BRISTOL, Connecticut (Ticker) - LeBron James apparently has a new running mate.

According to a report by ESPN.com on Friday, guard Larry Hughes has agreed on a five-year contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers worth up to $70 million.

Under the terms of the NBA's collective bargaining agreement, free agents can not officially sign contracts until July 22.

Hughes, one of the top unrestricted free agent guards this offseason along with Seattle's Ray Allen and Milwaukee's Michael Redd, became the key focus of the Cavaliers after both Allen and Redd re-signed with their respective clubs this week.

Seeking a more consistent outside scoring option to complement James, Cleveland did not get the jump shooter it would have liked but acquired Hughes, who is an outstanding scorer and defender coming off a career year.

In his seventh pro season, Hughes scored a career-high 22.0 points on 43 percent shooting and led the NBA with 2.9 steals in 61 games with Washington this past year. He was named to the All-Defensive First Team.

Along with forward Antawn Jamison and guard Gilbert Arenas, Hughes helped the Wizards win their first playoff series since 1982 with a victory over the Chicago Bulls in six games. Washington went on to lose in four games to the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference semifinals. Great ass move for the Cavs. If they re-sign Big Z they could be set to become a playoff contender and possiable be a top 5 seed in the East.

Definitive X
07-08-2005, 02:53 PM
So, basically...Cleveland's next lineup:

PG Eric Snow
SG Larry Hughes
SF LeBron James
PF Drew Gooden
C Zydrunas Ilgauskus

Also, watch out for Golden State next year...

PG Baron Davis
SG Jason Richardson
SF Mike Dunleavy, Jr.
PF Troy Murphy (or Ike Diogu)
C Chris Taft (If they're smart)

U-Samurai
07-08-2005, 03:22 PM
Does anybody have that espn insider shit, they wanna make me pay a monthly charge to hear their bullshit opinions? anyways they say, paul pierce, caron butler, and stephon marbury are on the trading block, is this true???

maestro wooz
07-08-2005, 03:32 PM
Great ass move for the Cavs. If they re-sign Big Z they could be set to become a playoff contender and possiable be a top 5 seed in the East.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK


and yeah i have the insider thing, its 30$ a year for alot more information and insight, theyre not "bullshit opinions"

Definitive X
07-08-2005, 03:39 PM
^^^^Can you post a link to that thing about Caron, Stephon, and Paul Pierce? I'm just curiuos...peace.

Hayabusa
07-08-2005, 04:33 PM
you won't be able to read it lol. He'd have to copy and paste that up.

Definitive X
07-08-2005, 04:38 PM
Fuck...

Hayabusa
07-09-2005, 12:45 PM
MILWAUKEE (AP) -- Free agent Bobby Simmons agreed to join the revamped Milwaukee Bucks after the Los Clippers swingman was honored as the NBA's most improved player last season.

His agent, Mark Bartelstein, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel the agreement is for $47 million over five years.

The Bucks would say only that they intend to sign Simmons once the league's moratorium period on player movement ends this month. Bartelstein did not immediately return a call Saturday from The Associated Press.

Last season, Simmons averaged 16.4 points, 5.9 rebounds and 2.7 assists.

The Bucks originally pursued Simmons as a backup in case Michael Redd accepted an offer to leave Milwaukee. On Thursday, Redd agreed to stay with a six-year deal worth at least $90 million.

Milwaukee also signed Andrew Bogut, the No. 1 overall draft pick, earlier this month and on Friday signed Terry Stotts to a five-year coaching contract to replace Terry Porter, who was fired June 22.

Hayabusa
07-09-2005, 12:46 PM
The cheesheads are having quite the offseason so far. They really trying to build around Redd and Ford. They could be a nice sleeper team coming into this year.

Jester
07-09-2005, 12:57 PM
whasup ive only just got into the NBA..i support the spurs..being in the UK its fuckin hard to follow them though...

Hayabusa
07-09-2005, 02:04 PM
They won the NBA title this year.

Definitive X
07-11-2005, 11:59 AM
The cheesheads are having quite the offseason so far. They really trying to build around Redd and Ford. They could be a nice sleeper team coming into this year.
Bucks 2005-06 lineup:

PG TJ Ford
SG Michael Redd
SF Bobby Simmons
PF Joe Smith
C Andrew Bogut

WATCH OUT!

maestro wooz
07-11-2005, 12:46 PM
^^^^Can you post a link to that thing about Caron, Stephon, and Paul Pierce? I'm just curiuos...peace.
Tired of hearing about Michael Redd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3442) and Joe Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3520)?

Wishing your team, over the cap and out of the running for major free agents, could still make major improvements this summer?

Keep hope alive. NBA general managers are predicting a robust trading season once the July player movement moratorium is lifted.

New rules in the collective bargaining agreement allow teams an extra 10 percent wiggle room (from 15 to 25 percent) when trading salaries, allowing for more trade possibilities. And, with the possibility of waiving one player and having him removed from the cap for luxury tax purposes, more owners may be willing to take on a bad deal.

After calling around the league and talking to numerous GMs, here's a look at 10 big names (not including free agents) who could be traded this summer.



Stephon Marbury (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3099), PG, New York Knicks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=nyk)
Knicks president Isiah Thomas went nuts over Tuesday's column (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&id=2100671) (and a New York Times report) stating that Isiah was willing to trade Marbury.

http://espn.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/marbury_kidd.jpg
The team that gets Stephon Marbury in a trade comes up short in the win column.




"That is so far from the truth," Thomas told reporters, in an angry tone, at a press conference after the Knicks' first summer league game. "And I'm ashamed for you guys that you even have to ask me that, because there is absolutely no truth to it at all."

Marbury has "never been in play," and the Knicks will "never put him in play," according to Isiah.

That's sharply at odds with what several NBA executives have told Insider over the course of the last week.

Thomas also took issue with the use of other, unnamed executives as sources.

"Tell the GM, whoever the GM is, to put his name on it," Thomas said.

Knicks fans likewise were displeased at suggestions that Thomas would be willing to trade Marbury to get Samuel Dalembert in a sign-and-trade. They were even more shocked at the possibility of trading him to Atlanta for Al Harrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3268), Tony Delk (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3086) and Jason Collier (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3414).

The funny thing is, trading Marbury is a move the Knicks should make. A trade for Dalembert (which I'm told Sixers GM Billy King has zero interest in) would help the Knicks here and now. That trade would add a shot blocker, put Jamal Crawford (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3407) and Nate Robinson at the point and give the Knicks a good chance at the playoffs.

A potential Hawks trade would be more about the future. By moving Marbury for players like Harrington, Delk and Collier (all in the last year of their contracts), Isiah could be on the verge of the previously unthinkable -- cap room. If Marbury were moved and Thomas could resist the urge to throw a max deal at every free agent that bats his eyes at him, the Knicks would be around $20 million under the cap going into the summer of 2007.

That just happens to be the summer that LeBron James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3704) becomes a restricted free agent, with his full free agency to follow a year later. Given what we know about the huge endorsement kickers James would get by playing in a big market like New York, combined with the chaos in Cleveland right now, it isn't a stretch to think that the Knicks would be real players in the LeBron market, provided they can get their house in order.

If Thomas really is going to hold firm on his pledge to "never" put Marbury in play, he's going to have to do something else to ease what's turning out to be a major logjam in the backcourt. The Knicks have Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Quentin Richardson, Allan Houston, Penny Hardaway and Nate Robinson, making a total of $66 million.



Houston will likely be waived using the new "amnesty" rule set up in the new CBA. Hardaway is in the last year of his contract, which makes him a tradable piece. But even with those two players eventually out of the picture, the Knicks logjam is still fairly significant and Crawford will be unhappy if he has to come off the bench.

http://espn.starwave.com/media/insider/2005/0608/photo/g_pierce2_195.jpg
The rumblings are getting louder that Paul has worn out his welcome in Boston.




Paul Pierce (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3253), SG, Boston Celtics (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=bos)
Danny Ainge, and now head coach Doc Rivers, have both, on the record, said that Pierce isn't going anywhere. Nevertheless his name has appeared in constant trade rumors and several GMs Insider has spoken with say that the Celtics have made Pierce available at the right price.

The fact that the Celtics had produced promotional materials with and without Pierce's image in it right before the draft lead credence to the theory.

While a Marbury trade makes sense for the Knicks, I'm not sure that a Pierce trade works for the Celtics right now. The team already has a plethora of young prospects: seven, to be exact. Two of those, Al Jefferson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3832) and Gerald Green, have star potential. What the Celtics need are veterans who can show them how to win. I think that probably behooves the Celtics to keep Pierce on board, and possibly even re-sign Antoine Walker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3112) if he'll agree to a reasonable contract.

Jamaal Magloire (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3418), C, New Orleans Hornets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=nor)
The Hornets offered him to the Raptors in a deal that Raptors GM Rob Babcock turned down. The Hornets wanted the Raptors' two first round picks and Babcock came to the questionable conclusion that draft picks Charlie Villanueva and Joey Graham would be more valuable to the franchise than what they desperately needed -- a veteran, All-Star-caliber center to play alongside Chris Bosh (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3707).

Magloire has stated publicly and privately that he wants out of New Orleans. The Hornets granted Baron Davis his trade request near the trade deadline in February and appear to be willing to give Magloire the same courtesy.

Other teams, including the Knicks, Lakers, Timberwolves and Hawks, have shown interest in Magloire. He's a base-year player, meaning that any trade for Magloire probably cannot happen until July 29. But with it looking like the league may draw out the moratorium process anyway, that shouldn't be a big deterrent.

Steve Francis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3325), G, Orlando Magic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=orl)
Francis had an up-and-down year for Orlando last season. His numbers jumped back up to near All-Star levels after a down season in Houston, but midway through the year the team seemed to sour on him a bit and made the relationship rockier by moving him off the point to the shooting guard position. The fact that they've been actively pursuing point guards in the draft and in free agency is pretty telling when you consider they also have Jameer Nelson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3837) on the roster.

The problem is that there isn't a robust market for Francis at the moment. Many GMs no longer believe he's a point guard and he's a bit undersized at the two. Unless a team with cap room like the Hawks, Clippers or Cavs comes to the table, the Magic may have no choice but to make it work next year with Francis running the show. That Tracy McGrady (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3179) trade is looking worse by the day.

Nene, PF, Denver Nuggets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=den)
Nene has been less than happy with the team ever since they signed Kenyon Martin (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3400) last summer. This is a contract year for him and he wants to play. The Nuggets have kept him around as insurance should the always fragile Marcus Camby (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3084) go down. Ironically it was Nene who spent most of the season on the injured list last season.

Now, Denver faces a different problem. Nene is looking for a big extension and the Nuggets have their reservations about giving it to him, especially if he's going to be backing up Martin and Camby. Meanwhile, the team is desperately searching for a sweet-shooting two guard to make defenses honest.



There's been talk in the media over the past few days that the Nuggets might agree to a swap with the Kings for Cuttino Mobley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3284). That's a great move for the Kings if they can make it happen, but I doubt the Nuggets are that desperate for a two guard. Mobley's a good shooter, but Nene has a lot more value on the open market. They'd also consider a swap for Joe Johnson, but the Suns are very unlikely to bite.

Al Harrington, F, Atlanta Hawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=atl)
Harrington was the odd man out the minute the Hawks decided to draft Marvin Williams last week. Harrington was a mild disappointment to the Hawks last season and appears to be more comfortable in a supporting role.

The Hawks are using him as bait in an attempt to lure several restricted free agents (Samuel Dalembert, Eddy Curry (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3514) and Tyson Chandler (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3512)) to the team via sign-and-trades. The most talked-about scenario has them sending Harrington to Chicago for Curry.

Wally Szczerbiak (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3329) and Sam Cassell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=1295), Minnesota Timberwolves (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=min)
Wolves vice president Kevin McHale promised big changes this year. Obviously not retaining Latrell Sprewell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=858) is a big move, at least symbolically. But there are more moves to come. The team has shopped both Szczerbiak and Cassell, hoping to shake things up more.

Szczerbiak has generated some interest in New York, Portland and New Orleans. The Wolves would love to do something with Portland that gets them Darius Miles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3402) or Shareef Abdur Rahim in a sign-and-trade.

Cassell has received less interest, though there's been talk that a deal with Memphis for Jason Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3250) is a possibility.

Caron Butler (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3608), SF, Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=lal)
Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak took NBA writers to task for mentioning Butler's name in trade rumors before the draft, but a handful of GMs report that he's available.

He probably has to be if the Lakers are going to make any significant changes to their roster this summer. Right now, Kobe Bryant (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3118) and Lamar Odom (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3327) are serving as the foundation. Butler, who many teams still covet, is the most expendable piece.

The Hornets and Bobcats have both shown a lot of interest in Butler.

Jason Williams, PG, Memphis Grizzlies (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=mem)
He was the team's golden child under Hubie Brown last season but resorted back to his old problem-child persona this season. Williams bumped heads constantly with new head coach Mike Fratello and ended the season on a pretty awful note.

The Grizzlies are trying to trade him, along with Bonzi Wells (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3254), but have struggled to find takers. While no one questions Williams' talent, he's a difficult guy to handle, both on and off the court. The team talked trade with the Wolves earlier in the season but so far nothing has come of it.

Hayabusa
07-11-2005, 01:32 PM
Good post mane, Hope Lakers make a run at Jason Williams.

Ouroborous
07-11-2005, 02:10 PM
Knicks need to get rid of JYD, Houston & Hardaway not Marbury, Isiah's trying to build something young & athletic. Love JYD but unless i'm mistaken he's on a lot for a bench player and they already got Rose, Taylor, Sweetney & Ariza for the 4 (tho no one plays like JYD!!!)
Love to see the Knicks get Abdur Rahim though.....

RynMur
07-11-2005, 02:22 PM
Yea i agree, Tim Duncan is a boring player. Is it just me or does it look like he's always scared or something.

U-Samurai
07-12-2005, 08:12 PM
now im hearin shit on foxsports.com that the lakers are gonna pull the trigger on a caron butler/kwame brown deal....wtf??? mitch kupchack is smokng pcp if hes gonna trade the second leading scoring on the team for a player who is recogoized as one of the biggest disapointment in the nba.

sakk
07-13-2005, 03:30 PM
Knicks need to get rid of JYD, Houston & Hardaway not Marbury, Isiah's trying to build something young & athletic. Love JYD but unless i'm mistaken he's on a lot for a bench player and they already got Rose, Taylor, Sweetney & Ariza for the 4 (tho no one plays like JYD!!!)
Love to see the Knicks get Abdur Rahim though.....
who is JYD?

Hayabusa
07-13-2005, 05:42 PM
now im hearin shit on foxsports.com that the lakers are gonna pull the trigger on a caron butler/kwame brown deal....wtf??? mitch kupchack is smokng pcp if hes gonna trade the second leading scoring on the team for a player who is recogoized as one of the biggest disapointment in the nba. cosign...

TiCaL24
07-13-2005, 08:08 PM
who is JYD?
Jerome Williams

TiCaL24
07-14-2005, 01:24 PM
Kwame Brown will be on his way to the Lakers for Caron Butler and Chucky Atkins.

You could count on more movement by the Lakers before the season starts too, I wonder who they have in mind at point now? Nice trade for the Wizards, Kwame wasn't doing anything for them.

Ouroborous
07-14-2005, 02:12 PM
[QUOTE=TiCaL24]Kwame Brown will be on his way to the Lakers for Caron Butler and Chucky Atkins.
QUOTE]

Or Devean George 'stead of Atkins possibly so i heard.....
Knicks have agrred to sign 7ft 1 Jerome James from Seattle......finnaly a big big man.

TiCaL24
07-14-2005, 02:44 PM
Jerome James is lazy and foul prone though

they overpaid at 5 years $30 million I think

Ouroborous
07-14-2005, 02:57 PM
Jerome James is lazy and foul prone though

they overpaid at 5 years $30 million I think
The Knicks overpay? Surely not. lol.

Help Channing Frye tho......

sakk
07-14-2005, 03:37 PM
I think Phil Jackson isnt even trying to win the title. Unless he can coach at some divine level we have never seen. Kobe cant win a title with ONLY him as the focal point. Phil came back for the money and women. 10 million a year is hard to turn down.

U-Samurai
07-14-2005, 04:29 PM
sakkI think Phil Jackson isnt even trying to win the title. Unless he can coach at some divine level we have never seen. Kobe cant win a title with ONLY him as the focal point. Phil came back for the money and women. 10 million a year is hard to turn down.



^^^^^Yea...

sakk
07-14-2005, 05:13 PM
I almost wouldnt take Kwame Brown for free. :loser:

TiCaL24
07-14-2005, 05:36 PM
I'd take Kwame, it all depends on the team really

He's 23 years old, still got potential. He averaged around 8 and 8 for the last 2 months of the season if I remember, plus he's athletic and strong which he uses to his advantage on the defensive end.

Wizards don't need him anymore, they're in the playoff hunt now, they need veterans who will step in immidiately and contribute.

U-Samurai
07-14-2005, 09:11 PM
i cant belive how gay the lakers are gonna be next year.....i been a loyal laker fan for a while, but now that the clippers signed cuttino mobley for 5 years its clear the lakers have sum catching up to do, if they wanna be the best team in los angeles.

sakk
07-14-2005, 10:27 PM
I'll tell you who the best team in the West will be:

New

Orleans

Hornets

What.

Definitive X
07-14-2005, 10:30 PM
^^^^^HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA--*breathes in*--HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

maestro wooz
07-15-2005, 03:23 AM
I'd take Kwame, it all depends on the team really

He's 23 years old, still got potential. He averaged around 8 and 8 for the last 2 months of the season if I remember, plus he's athletic and strong which he uses to his advantage on the defensive end.

Wizards don't need him anymore, they're in the playoff hunt now, they need veterans who will step in immidiately and contribute.
that was 2 years ago, this past year he was a total bum the whole year

Definitive X
07-15-2005, 10:16 AM
Clippers '05-'06 Projected Lineup:

SF Corey Maggete
PF Elton Brand
C Chris Kaman
PG Marko Jaric
SG Cuttino Mobley

Except for Jaric, that's a pretty strong lineup...

TiCaL24
07-15-2005, 12:40 PM
that was 2 years ago, this past year he was a total bum the whole year
go look it up on nba.com

in april he put up 8 and 5 and in march he put up 8 and 7. my numbers were a little off.

Kwame was injured for most of the year until the later part of the season.



on another Laker note Vlade Divac is set to retire


http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p720940reg.jpg

TiCaL24
07-15-2005, 12:42 PM
Clippers '05-'06 Projected Lineup:

SF Corey Maggete
PF Elton Brand
C Chris Kaman
PG Marko Jaric
SG Cuttino Mobley

Except for Jaric, that's a pretty strong lineup...
Jaric is a FA, I don't think he'll be resigning in Los Angeles. But it doesn't matter because they still have Shaun Livingston and he's a G

maestro wooz
07-16-2005, 03:15 AM
go look it up on nba.com

in april he put up 8 and 5 and in march he put up 8 and 7. my numbers were a little off.

Kwame was injured for most of the year until the later part of the season.

i watched 75% of the wizards games this year and he was a bum in every one. March his 5 best games pts. wise were against charlotte, atlanta, portland, and golden state. Out of all those teams i think golden state was the only one within 20 games of .500. He also shot under .41% and averaged .5 bpg that month, so yeah, he was a bum.

In april ill admit he had a couple good scoring(good scoring being more then 10pts mind you) against decent teams but he also had games of 2pts. in 24 minutes, 4 pts. in 25 minutes, 2pts. in 10 minutes, 0 in 6 minutes(against chicago who the wizards were fighting for position with at the time), 3pts. in 14 minutes, and 0pts. in 10 minutes. And he only averaged 4.2 rebounds per game with under 1 block per game. It was nice that you could take a cursory glance at the stats but you probaly didnt see a single wizards game all year



spelling error edit

JOHNNY_TICAL
07-16-2005, 04:58 AM
Fuck Da Spurs... Also Wut Do Ppl Think Bout Da Lakers.... ? Whether N L.a. Or Outside L.a. {also Check Out "3 Peat" And Shit.... } @ TEMPLE OF DARTS


All About Da Fucken Lakers!!!



PEACE OUT !!!

sakk
07-16-2005, 01:58 PM
Fuck Da Spurs... Also Wut Do Ppl Think Bout Da Lakers.... ? Whether N L.a. Or Outside L.a. {also Check Out "3 Peat" And Shit.... } @ TEMPLE OF DARTS


All About Da Fucken Lakers!!!




PEACE OUT !!!
The Spurs are the champs so I guess everybody but them, is sayin fuck em. The Lakers... as long as Kobe is the focal point they aint gonna win no championships. Kobe cant play WITH nobody except himself. Kobe is all about I not Team.

U-Samurai
07-16-2005, 03:51 PM
Im glad to see johnny_Tical is still not given a fuck and showin luv 4 the lakers. even tho they might be lottery again next year, im still down purple and gold. Fuck the Heat, hahahahahah...

TiCaL24
07-17-2005, 04:33 PM
i watched 75% of the wizards games this year and he was a bum in every one. March his 5 best games pts. wise were against charlotte, atlanta, portland, and golden state. Out of all those teams i think golden state was the only one within 20 games of .500. He also shot under .41% and averaged .5 bpg that month, so yeah, he was a bum.

In april ill admit he had a couple good scoring(good scoring being more then 10pts mind you) against decent teams but he also had games of 2pts. in 24 minutes, 4 pts. in 25 minutes, 2pts. in 10 minutes, 0 in 6 minutes(against chicago who the wizards were fighting for position with at the time), 3pts. in 14 minutes, and 0pts. in 10 minutes. And he only averaged 4.2 rebounds per game with under 1 block per game. It was nice that you could take a cursory glance at the stats but you probaly didnt see a single wizards game all year



spelling error edit

I never said anything about his offense...

All I said was that he's still young, athletic and strong which makes him a good one on one defender. Nothing about him being some offensive machine.

maestro wooz
07-17-2005, 08:46 PM
you did mention his offense, you mentioned how many points he scored which is his offense. And he was ever worse at defense, thats why he rarely got minutes in big games. Just stop man, you never saw a wizards game, its obvious

sakk
07-19-2005, 01:00 PM
Stromile Swift to the Rockets. That should help them alot. They have 3 players who can be major factors now. But the problem is, whos gonna get them the ball. The Rockets still need a point guard. But with Mcgrady, Yao, and Stromile they should be a top west team again next year. Heres the link to the story about the stromile move....http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-rockets-swift&prov=ap&type=lgns

Hayabusa
07-19-2005, 06:18 PM
NEWARK, New Jersey (Ticker) - Free agent forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3098/) reportedly has agreed to a five-year contract with the New Jersey Nets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/njn/), who were looking to fortify their frontcourt.

The Newark Star-Ledger reported in Tuesday's editions that the 6-10 Abdur-Rahim, who spent the last one-plus seasons with the Portland Trail Blazers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/por/), will sign for the mid-level exception after the teams were unable to work out a sign-and-trade deal.

The mid-level exception allows teams over the salary cap to sign players and is expected to be between $4.9 million and $5.2 million once the new collective bargaining agreement is ratified. Abdur-Rahim's deal will be between $27 million and $30 million.

According to the report, Abdur-Rahim could have received a six-year, $38 million deal had he been signed by the Trail Blazers and dealt to the Nets for a $4.9 million trade exception and the rights to 2005 second-round pick Mile Ilic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3969/). But New Jersey was unwilling to part with Ilic.

Abdur-Rahim averaged 16.8 points and 7.3 rebounds while shooting better than 50 percent last season while accepting a reduced role with the Trail Blazers, who were playing many of their younger players.

The third overall pick in the 1996 draft, Abdur-Rahim, 29, has averaged 19.8 points and 8.1 rebounds in 672 games for Vancouver, Atlanta and Portland. He was an All-Star in 2002 with Atlanta but has never played in the postseason.

That likely will change in New Jersey, where he will man the frontcourt with improving center Nenad Krstic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3622/). The Nets have one of the best perimeter trios in the NBA in Jason Kidd (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/2625/), Vince Carter (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3248/) and Richard Jefferson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3523/).

Last season, the Nets were 24th in rebounding margin and 26th in blocks margin. They did not pick up the option on veteran forward Cliff Robinson and will lose forward Brian Scalabrine (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3544/) to free agency.

Hayabusa
07-19-2005, 06:19 PM
CLEVELAND (Ticker) - Looking for perimeter shooting, the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) reportedly have signed free agent forward Donyell Marshall (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/2627/), who shares the NBA record for 3-pointers in a game.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer, citing unidentified sources, reported Tuesday that the Cavaliers signed Marshall to a four-year contract worth between $20 million and $25 million.

The 6-9 Marshall averaged 11.5 points and 6.6 rebounds in 65 games with the Toronto Raptors (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/tor/) last season, his 11th in the NBA. On March 13, he sank 12-of-19 3-pointers in a win over Philadelphia, tying the NBA record set by Kobe Bryant (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3118/).

Since drafting phenom LeBron James (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3704/) two years ago, the Cavaliers have tried to surround him with perimeter shooters such as Lucious Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/1299/) and Jiri Welsch (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3614/). But Marshall has shot better than 40 percent from the arc in each of the last four years and drained 151 3-pointers last season.

Marshall, 33, joins guard Larry Hughes (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3251/) as major free agent signings by the Cavaliers, who have taken a different look under new general manager Danny Ferry. The club also reportedly re-signed center Zydrunas Ilgauskas (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3121/) to a six-year deal on July 11.

Along with forward Drew Gooden (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3602/), the Cavaliers have four solid scoring options to back up the 20-year-old James, an All-Star who nearly carried the team to its first postseason appearance in seven years.

Cleveland finished at 42-40, losing the tiebreaker for the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference to New Jersey.

The fourth overall pick in the 1994 draft, Marshall has averaged 12.4 points and 7.3 rebounds in 744 career games with Minnesota, Golden State, Utah, Chicago and the Raptors.

jR_killa
07-19-2005, 06:35 PM
I was hoping Marshall would stick around in t.o., anyone hear about Shareef going to NJ?

Peace

Hayabusa
07-19-2005, 08:38 PM
I posted about Shareef the post above my Cavs post LOL.

Hayabusa
07-19-2005, 09:29 PM
DETROIT (AP) -- Larry Brown is out as coach of the Detroit Pistons (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/det/). Brown and the Pistons reached a settlement Tuesday on the final three years of his contract, Pistons spokesman Matt Dobek said. He now is free to coach another team next season, said Dobek, who declined to provide further details.

Asked if the team had fired Brown, Dobek replied: ``Say what you want.''

The team didn't want the Hall of Fame coach back and had offered a payoff, Brown's agent, Joe Glass, said Tuesday.

``I take umbrage with the Pistons, or sources, saying it's a buyout,'' Glass said Tuesday morning before the announcement. ``A buyout encompasses a mutual agreement, and that's not what is happening. Larry Brown is saying, 'I want to coach the Pistons,' and they want to pay him off for whatever reason.''

Before the Pistons said Monday that they were negotiating a buyout, they had said they would welcome Brown back if he was willing to return.

``Until this week, I can't remember a time that I read Joe Dumars not categorically state that Larry Brown is our coach,'' Glass said. ``The Pistons can try to change the facts, but you can't change history.

``When did this all break down? My best guess is months ago.''

After the announcement, messages seeking comment were left with Brown, Glass, team president of basketball operations Joe Dumars, and Pistons players Richard Hamilton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3330/) and Chauncey Billups (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3174/).

In a statement, Dumars said ``the search for a new Pistons' head coach has already begun.'' Brown is expected to be replaced by former Minnesota Timberwolves (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/min/) coach Flip Saunders.

``We appreciate the two tremendous seasons the team enjoyed with Larry as coach,'' Dumars said in an additional statement. ``We wish him the best and good health going forward.''

Two years ago, Detroit signed Brown to a five-year contract worth about $25 million, plus incentive bonuses. He guided the Pistons to the NBA championship in 2004 and came one victory away from repeating this year.

Throughout the season, Brown insisted he would return if doctors deemed him healthy enough, and said he wouldn't lead another NBA team from the sideline. Still, there have been reports that the New York Knicks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nyk/) would not hire a new coach until they knew for sure Brown is unavailable.

The 64-year-old Brown was hospitalized for treatment of a medical problem that developed from complications following hip surgery in November and persisted after a second procedure in March. He checked into the Mayo Clinic the morning after last month's NBA draft, less than a week after Detroit lost Game 7 of the finals to the San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas/).

``His medical condition isn't 100 percent and it hasn't improved much,'' Glass said. ``But we're trusting God that it will, and Larry has represented that he is physically, spiritually and emotionally able to coach.

AP - Jul 18, 10:57 pm EDT
More Photos (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/gallery) ``I do not want myself or Larry to sound vindictive because this is a free country, but at the same token, facts are facts. Some are saying Larry is using his health as an excuse, but that's not the truth because he's more than willing to come back, even with his current condition.''

Brown and Glass met with Dumars and Pistons owner Bill Davidson last week. Other than traveling to suburban Detroit for the meeting, Brown has been resting, on doctor's orders, at his vacation home in New York.

During the regular season, reports linked Brown to jobs in New York, Los Angeles and Denver.

The Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) talked with Brown about becoming their president of basketball operations after Detroit gave them permission during the spring. Cleveland hired Danny Ferry as general manager last month, and he has been assured that Brown will not be his boss.

Brown is the only coach with NBA and NCAA championships, winning a title with the Pistons last year and one with Kansas in 1988.

His longest tenure with any team was six seasons with Philadelphia. He had two years left on his contract there before coming to Detroit.

Brown led the 76ers to the playoffs for five straight seasons, including the 2001 NBA Finals, and became the first coach to take six NBA teams to the playoffs when the Sixers made it in 1999.

He also coached Denver (five years), Indiana (four years), San Antonio (3 1/2 years), New Jersey (two years), Carolina of the ABA (two years) and the Los Angeles Clippers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lac/) (18 months). His NCAA teams include UCLA and Kansas, where he left after winning the title.

When he was hired in Detroit, Brown refused to set a timetable on leading the Pistons to their third NBA championship, but promised not to embarrass the team.

The win over the Spurs in Game 6 this year was Brown's 100th in the postseason, moving him past Red Auerbach for third place on the all-time list.

Brown has more than 1,000 NBA victories in the regular season and playoffs. Since starting his career in 1972 with the ABA's Carolina Cougars, he has led pro and college teams to more than 1,400 wins.

Brown also coached the U.S. men's basketball team to a bronze-medal finish at the 2004 Olympics in Athens, the first time since pro players were added for in 1992 that the Americans went home without gold.

jR_killa
07-20-2005, 12:58 AM
I posted about Shareef the post above my Cavs post LOL.
hahahhahaa oh yeah, my bad homie.

Peace

maestro wooz
07-20-2005, 01:00 PM
good move by the nets but what do they do with hakim warrick now, have him come off the bench when jason kidd isnt in? I thought the whole point of drafting him was so they could have an explosive leaper to run the court with j kidd.

RynMur
07-20-2005, 04:34 PM
Did anyone see Channing Frye dunk on Bogut?

sakk
07-20-2005, 05:03 PM
Chris Paul = Rookie of the Year in 05-06.

Definitive X
07-20-2005, 06:19 PM
^^^Nah, Deron Williams will get that...Illini, BIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!

RynMur
07-20-2005, 08:19 PM
Salim Stoudamire, not even a first round pick will get rookie of the year

u-turn
07-23-2005, 11:31 AM
The Knicks got Larry Brown I think.

Hayabusa
07-23-2005, 12:57 PM
not yeat, they close though.

U-Samurai
07-23-2005, 06:34 PM
Salim Stoudamire, not even a first round pick will get rookie of the year


AHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA HAH!!!!!!

maestro wooz
07-25-2005, 02:27 AM
id be interested in having an intelligent conversation on the topic of the national basketball assosciation if any of you want to stop making outrageous comments

Definitive X
07-25-2005, 11:10 AM
I have not known woozer to have an intelligent conversation, though...

u-turn
07-25-2005, 05:32 PM
Jerome James is already at 30, hopefully he picks up his game in time for the knicks to clear salaray room

I'd have it like this

Stephon
Q-Rich
Jamal
Frye
James

Ariza
Sweetney
Thomas
Robinson

Being the main bench guys

RynMur
07-26-2005, 04:32 PM
Yea U-turn, New York definitely flipped the script.

sakk
07-26-2005, 04:36 PM
The Hornets gonna flip that championSHIP. What.

ballistic
07-26-2005, 06:36 PM
the knicks should have as part of their contract with brown that he has to stay with the team for at least five years...otherwise, he's just a pain in the long run (i.e., 2 years, at the most)

Hayabusa
07-27-2005, 10:41 PM
NEW YORK (AP) -- A month of drama for Larry Brown ended with him landing his ``dream job.''

At an age when many people are pondering retirement, Brown moved ahead into yet another chapter of his itinerant coaching career Wednesday when his agent finalized a contract with the New York Knicks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nyk/).

Brown will sit alongside team president Isiah Thomas when the Knicks introduce the 22nd coach in franchise history at a news conference Thursday at Madison Square Garden, where the buzz could be coming back after nearly a half-decade of mediocrity and malaise.

Brown's agent worked out the final details of contract language with team executives Wednesday, clearing the way for the Knicks to introduce Brown as the 22nd head coach in franchise history.

Less than 10 days after his divorce from the Detroit Pistons (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/det/) was finalized, Brown will be trading down in talent but up in salary and sentiment.

The Knicks were Brown's favorite team when he was growing up in Brooklyn, and the eighth stop on his NBA coaching carousel will truly be a ``dream job'' -- just what Brown called it earlier this year.

He'll join a long list of distinguished coaches -- including Joe Lapchick, Red Holzman, Pat Riley and Lenny Wilkens -- who have guided one of the NBA's charter franchises.

``We have it just about done. There are a couple of things to tidy up,'' agent Joe Glass said early Wednesday evening. Less than an hour later, everything was in place -- except Brown's signature, which was due Thursday.

In 22 seasons as a professional coach, Brown has compiled a 987-741 record. The title he won with the Detroit Pistons in 2004 was the only NBA championship of his career.

Glass would not comment on reports that the contract would be for five years and between $50 million to $60 million. He said there were no major issues that needed to be worked out in the final contract negotiations Tuesday and Wednesday.

Brown did not immediately return a call seeking comment Wednesday.

July has turned out to be a whirlwind month for the coach who will be 65 by the time training camp begins. He began it at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, where he underwent surgery for a bladder problem, then told the Pistons he was prepared to return.

He and Glass met with Detroit owner Bill Davidson and team president Joe Dumars that Brown originally thought had gone well. But Davidson, peeved that Brown had spoken to the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cle/) during the playoffs, had grown tired of the drama that constantly surrounds the high-maintenance coach.

Just hours after the Pistons finished a severance agreement with Brown that paid him $7 million, Knicks president Isiah Thomas picked up the phone and made it known that New York had a serious interest.

Meetings with owner James Dolan, interim coach Herb Williams and Madison Square Garden president Steve Mills followed, and Brown gave his agent to go-ahead to hammer out the contract language.

Brown becomes the team's fourth coach in less than a year, following Williams, Wilkens and Don Chaney. The Knicks haven't been to the finals since 1999 under Jeff Van Gundy and haven't won a title since Holzman coached in 1973.

Brown takes over a roster that Thomas has transformed into a mix of youngsters and high-salaried veterans. Turning them into a winner will be the latest challenge for Brown in a nomadic NBA coaching career that has included stints with the Philadelphia 76ers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/phi/), Indiana Pacers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/ind/), Los Angeles Clippers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lac/), San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas/), New Jersey Nets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/njn/) and Denver Nuggets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/den/).

Brown also coached Kansas to an NCAA title in 1988, had stints with UCLA and the Carolina Cougars of the ABA, and led the 2004 U.S. Olympic team that finished a disappointing third. Part of that roster included Knicks guard Stephon Marbury (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3099/), who clashed with Brown last summer. Marbury has already publicly endorsed Brown's hiring, and Brown has said he will have no problem coaching the enigmatic guard.

After missing 17 games last season due to a hip replacement operation that led to the bladder problem, Brown's wife, Shelly, had been concerned about her husband's health. He underwent his third surgery in nine months shortly after the Pistons lost Game 7 of the NBA Finals to the San Antonio Spurs.

Doctors told Brown he needed rest, and he and his wife have decided he'll get enough of it during the next two months before training camp begins.

U-Samurai
07-28-2005, 01:47 AM
whuts up with mike finley? hes been so loyal to the mavs and they wanna trade him all the sudden? i can see allan houston getting dropped from new york cuz they have like 5 shooting guards, but wtf, mavs should keep finley. fuck it, big ups to the french homeboy that had heart surgery on the lakers, one.

Hayabusa
07-28-2005, 08:43 AM
My guess would be that mike finley making to much money. They gut good 21-24 year old guards and will probably start. I hear they gonna just drop Finley if no one gives them anything for him. If knicks cut houston that would be like suicide lol. They'd probaby have to buy out his $40 million dollar contract to do it.

maestro wooz
07-28-2005, 09:34 AM
nah, theres a clause in the new cba that lets each team waive one player once. Its a one chance shot and you only have the next couple months to do it. Thats why the knicks would be able to just waive houston and the mavs can let finley just walk. Its called the amnesty clause

RynMur
07-29-2005, 03:59 PM
Finley will be a big pick up for any team who picks him up. I'm hoping he goes to a team that is actually good. The 2007 NBA all star game will be played in Vegas, they're announcing this sometime next week. That's going to be crazy, hopefully that'll show the NBA that they can have a team here.

ballistic
07-29-2005, 07:18 PM
in vegas?? not the best place for all star weekend...the mind reels..."Lebron gambles away Nike endorsement" "Carmelo married twice...on the same night" "Shaq wins the MVP, despite sporting Vegas hangover"

RynMur
07-29-2005, 07:19 PM
Sounds good to me

JOHNNY_TICAL
07-30-2005, 04:56 AM
Damn Fucken Knickerbockers // Mutha Fuckas. // Playoff Bound .. Wut .!

RynMur
07-30-2005, 02:04 PM
Joe Johnson is likely going to the Hawks. Atlanta is going to be loaded next year and will make the playoffs. I don't think it's right now that Joe Johnson thinks he's a bad ass, cuz we all know that Nash made him a better player. Damn selfish greedy athletes these days.

maestro wooz
07-30-2005, 02:17 PM
the playoffs???? come one man, johnson is the most established talent on the team, and hes had 2 years of good play. Josh smith still has no offensive game except jump over everyone, childress is turning into a player but hell always be out of position as long as hes at the 2, marvin williams will be good, but not now. Hes doing terrible in the summer league right now actually. And al harrington is, at best, a 3rd option, not the first or second option like they thought he could be. Maybe in 2 years they could make the playoffs, but not now

RynMur
07-30-2005, 02:33 PM
I'm still calling it, they're going to be young and good like the Bulls last year but they're going to follow through and c'mon it's NBA everyone makes the playoffs.

maestro wooz
07-30-2005, 02:58 PM
would you be willing to put money down on that?

RynMur
07-30-2005, 07:32 PM
sure why not

ballistic
07-30-2005, 11:39 PM
speaking of the suns, did i really hear that the knicks signed quentin richardson? last season he signed a mammoth deal with suns...so what really happened with that? i'm pretty sure i saw an ap wire report on that earlier this month...

joe johnson is pretty sick and can definitely hold his own minus nash...& yeah, the hawks will resemble the bulls...should be a fun team to watch. there was a rumor that they would trade harrington to detroit for darko, but that either fell through or was nothing more than a rumor. they were also thinking about getting eddy curry from the bulls...

JOHNNY_TICAL
07-31-2005, 07:51 AM
Fuck The Spurs. !!>> Lakers. Will Come Back And Slap Every 1 In The Face. Next Season.. ! I Will Make Sure Of That . !

RynMur
07-31-2005, 01:20 PM
Yea Richardson and Nate Robinson went to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas or something. The suns are just letting their next season go.

ballistic
07-31-2005, 01:44 PM
not sure i understand that move...they're adding to a frontline that already features stoudemire and marion? at the cost of losing richardson, and pretty soon johnson? c'mon now...they had a great core, and they should've built upon that this offseason instead of dispatching 2/3 of the starting lineup. who's going to be their SG now? jim jackson?? barbosa?? i hope they're waaay under the salary cap!

ballistic
07-31-2005, 01:46 PM
at least the knicks have another three point specialist....starbury/q, that should be interesting. what's the deal with allan houston? is he healthy, still injured, are the knicks going to let him go? who does NY have now anyway?

RynMur
07-31-2005, 01:50 PM
yea no shit, i don't know what the fuck they've been doing lately, hopefully they can pick up a big free agent. I hope they don't move barbosa up to the starting line up. barbosa is more of a bench player cuz he makes tons of mistakes but i think jim jackson will fit good into the starting lineup, but then they'll need a bench. and i dont understand how a player like thomas will fit into a running team style.

ch-chef
07-31-2005, 04:14 PM
^^^im thinkin hes there for rebounds to start the fast break, hes never been a run type but they need some kind of presence inside and maybe he can help amare get more aggresive on the defensive side. i think he might be there as a mentor.

...marbury might be expendable, nate robinson showed some tremendous potential in summer league and the way he drives to the hole with the pass first attitude is somethin marbury lacks. he might be able to come in and start right off the bat.

maestro wooz
08-01-2005, 06:09 AM
i think the suns made that move expecting to keep johnson. Thomas will greatly help their inside game, offensively and defensively. The player the suns got for johnson, boris diaw, is gonna fit in good with them. Hes one of those pass first shooting guards who doesnt dominate the ball but contributes in alot of categories. Atleast thats what hes supposed to be but he hasnt done anything yet. You cant really fault him though, he was in atlanta with almost no other real talent around him for a couple years.

JOHNNY_TICAL
08-01-2005, 07:37 AM
PEACE IM OUTZ// GO LAKERS.. !!




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Hayabusa
08-01-2005, 09:52 AM
It appears that Joe Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3520)'s wish to swap a supporting role in Phoenix for star status in Atlanta is on the verge of being granted.



NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com that the Suns and Hawks have locked into serious trade discussions that could send Johnson to the Eastern Conference via sign-and-trade as early as Tuesday afternoon.

The proposed deal, according to sources, would bring guard Boris Diaw (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3724) and two lottery-protected future first-round picks to Phoenix -- along with a trade exception in the $5 million range -- after Johnson signs a contract under terms established by Atlanta: $70 million over five years with an estimated balloon payment of $20 million up front.

Johnson, a restricted free agent, has been planning for weeks to sign a five-year, $70 million offer sheet from Atlanta as soon as the league's moratorium on signings is lifted Tuesday at noon. On Thursday, Johnson stunned Suns managing partner Robert Sarver by asking Sarver directly not to match the offer, telling his boss that he prefers to continue his career as a Hawk. On Friday, at teammate Steve Nash (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3103)'s charity game in Toronto, Johnson revealed the request to ESPN.com (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2120105) and spoke excitedly about the opportunity to play point guard with the Hawks.

After maintaining for weeks that it would match any offer sheet Johnson signs, Phoenix chose a new course this weekend, ultimately deciding it was better for team chemistry to pursue a sign-and-trade with Atlanta instead of investing huge sums in a player who wants to leave.

Johnson's increasingly imminent departure is a coup for the desperate Hawks and an undeniable blow to the Suns, who have long considered the versatile swingman no less critical to last season's overwhelming success than any of their three All-Stars: Amare Stoudemire (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3607), Shawn Marion (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3332) and Nash. Next to Nash, the league's newly minted MVP, Johnson was the only other dependable playmaker on a 62-win team and shot a deadly 47.8 percent from 3-point range.

Phoenix, though, has always liked Diaw, a rugged defender and underrated ballhandler from France, and sees him as part of a three- or four-man platoon to replace Johnson, who desires a bigger role than he can have with the star-laden Suns.

Phoenix struck a verbal agreement with Utah's Raja Bell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3467), another defensive specialist with an underrated offensive game, on the first day of free agency. It also still has swingman Jim Jackson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=832), who filled in ably for Johnson during a second-round dismissal of Dallas.

Johnson's exit would likewise spark the Suns to intensify their pursuit of the Dallas Mavericks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=dal)' Michael Finley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3023). Dallas is expected to waive Finley via the new "amnesty clause" that gives teams a one-time opportunity to release a player without paying any further luxury tax on his contract, unless the Mavericks can trade Finley to an Eastern Conference team before the Aug. 15 deadline for using the amnesty provision.


As an amnesty casualty, Finley would still receive what's left on his Mavericks contract (nearly $52 million) and also have the opportunity to choose his next team in free agency. The list of teams lining up to bid for Finley is a long one, featuring NBA Finals foes San Antonio and Detroit and virtually every other playoff contender in the league, but Phoenix possesses a couple of recruiting advantages.

Finley is received warmly by Suns fans to this day, after Phoenix drafted him No. 21 overall in 1995. The 32-year-old will also be lobbied hard by Nash, who remains one of his closest friends in the league -- along with Dirk Nowitzki (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3252) -- after the trio's long run together in Dallas. Finley joined Johnson in attendance at Nash's charity game in Toronto, even though his ongoing recovery from June ankle surgery prevented him from playing.

The concern for the Suns is that, with only limited free-agent resources left this summer, they'll be outbid for Finley by most of his suitors.

Landing Johnson, meanwhile, ranks as a huge catch for Hawks general manager Billy Knight, who has struggled since last summer to convert his considerable salary-cap space into a marquee acquisition. Having whiffed a year ago in its attempts to score free agents such as Kenyon Martin (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3400) and Erick Dampier (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3117), Atlanta has been quietly optimistic that it would be able to import Johnson as a point guard to team with its cadre of young swingmen: Al Harrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3268), Josh Childress (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3823), Josh Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3834) and Marvin Williams, selected No. 2 overall in the recent draft.

"I love the idea," Johnson told ESPN.com on Friday. "I'd love that, having the ball in my hands. I think I'm a great shooter, but that's where I think I'm most effective, making decisions."

In his first extended interview about his future since free agency began Friday, Johnson said his desire to leave the Suns involves "a lot of things," starting with contentious negotiations on a contract extension last October that broke off with sides about $5 million apart. Johnson was rankled further earlier this month when, after a breakout season for himself and the team, Phoenix offered only $60 million over six years.

Yet sources close to the situation also insist that Johnson is most unhappy with what he perceives as his standing as a "fourth wheel" behind Stoudemire, Marion and especially Nash. The native of nearby Arkansas would instantly have his own team to run in Atlanta and become a franchise face for a club teeming with inexperience.

Because the Hawks are so far under the salary cap, and because Johnson will become a base-year compensation player after signing his new deal, Phoenix won't be required in a trade to take back contracts in the neighborhood of Johnson's first-year salary of $12 million. Diaw has two seasons left on his contract totaling just over $3 million.

On top of the draft picks in the deal, the trade exception -- good for one year -- gives Phoenix the ability to take back more salary in a future trade than it gives up and thus provides another vehicle for acquiring a contributor.

Given Sarver's stated aversion to letting his annual payroll stray far beyond $50 million, replacing Johnson with Bell, Diaw, two draft picks, a trade exception and perhaps even Finley (if the Suns are so fortunate) holds considerable appeal. Although sources insist that Sarver was intent on matching an offer sheet to Johnson, doing so would have put Phoenix in the rare position of carrying four players who earn roughly $50 million by themselves, with Stoudemire soon to receive a maximum contract extension that would kick in starting with the 2006-07 season. And Kurt Thomas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3012), another recent acquisition from New York in a trade for Quentin Richardson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3417), has three seasons left on his deal at an average of more than $7 million.

"You've got to go where you're comfortable," Johnson said Friday in explaining his wish to swap Phoenix for Atlanta.

With the Hawks unable to sign the restricted free agent outright, a sign-and-trade has emerged as the most comfortable compromise for Johnson and the two teams involved.

RynMur
08-01-2005, 02:24 PM
Micheal Finley will fit in perfectly with the Suns.

ol dirty abbot
08-01-2005, 05:03 PM
I cant believe AI aint on the NBA All Defensive Team he lead the league in steals for how many years?

ballistic
08-01-2005, 08:16 PM
i can see why johnson wanted to leave phoenix for atlanta...but in phoenix he would be making more money, ,and he had a considerably better shot at getting a title ring. in the short run it makes sense, and who knows, he might be akey building block for a potential atlanta playoff team. but later on in his career he might regret it...
it would be great if phoenix could get finley though...

RynMur
08-02-2005, 12:24 AM
He's going to regret it next year. He's going there cuz he said something about he can get respect or some shit. I think he's full of shit, even though he wont be the best player on the Suns he'll still get more recognized there then in Atl.

ol dirty abbot
08-02-2005, 05:16 AM
Atlanta is a killer place for any half decent player. Only players that have flourished out there was the human highlight reel and mount mutombo

ballistic
08-02-2005, 02:51 PM
i understand his reasoning...i mean, who wouldn't want to be the focal point of a team and their de facto leader. he'll probably have the most experience on the team, so the ball's going to be in his hands a lot. i think he'll have a nice season...

elsewhere, rumor has it that miami is trying to trade eddie jones to the grizzlies for jason williams and james posey. that would be one hell of a move...but i would make sense, since keyon dooling is already gone, damon jones is talking to cleveland, and posey would replace eddie jones. however, e. jones has is part of what makes up the great chemistry the heat had this past season. should they mess with that? i dont know, but jason williams/shaq would be an interesting combination.

ch-chef
08-02-2005, 04:30 PM
bottom line is...joe johnson would rather chase the cream rather then chase the title....who the fuck goes to atlanta if they wanna win??

...eddie jones is what, like 32-33? hes old and has more off and average games then games where he takes over. most of the playoff loses that came was them needin him to step it up, or anyone for that matter besides shaq and wade, jones couldnt do it. posey still seems to have more upside comin and williams can always spark the team, i dont know if i'd start him in miami, he might be better for them with energy off the bench, but if d jones leaves they might need him as the starter.

ballistic
08-02-2005, 06:16 PM
yeah, but i dont think anyone has been looking for eddie jones to take over a game in awhile...he's the type of guy that'll get you a quiet 15-20 points a game consistently. i dont know how old james posey is, but jason williams is a proven starter. he's a playmaker, if nothing else.
yeah, joe johnson is out for the cream and "the gusto"( as ghost would put it) right now. and who knows, atlanta might turn it around pretty soon...they used to be a perennial playoff team.

ballistic
08-02-2005, 11:42 PM
o my God....5 teams, 13 players! damn...what a prodigious trade.

the heat got antoine walker, jason williams, and james posey. can you even begin to imagine how entertaining that lineup will be with shaq? the eccentric yet talented williams, the unprecedented and always unpredictable antoine walker...wow.
lmao at jazz ending up with ostertag in the midst of all these landmark transactions...again.

Who's Going Where

Heat:
Roberto Duenas*
Andre Emmett
James Posey
Antoine Walker
Jason Williams
Celtics:
Curtis Borchardt
Albert Miralles*
Qyntel Woods
Two draft picks
Grizzlies:
Eddie Jones
Raul Lopez
Hornets:
Rasual Butler
Kirk Snyder
Jazz:
Greg Ostertag

bob99digi
08-03-2005, 08:11 AM
Going to be one hell of an interesting season. Can't believe that trade went down like that. Thats a hell of a deal Riley put together.

RynMur
08-03-2005, 11:28 AM
Is it just me or did the Heat get the best deal.

ballistic
08-03-2005, 03:43 PM
yeah..they gave up butler and jones and got walker, williams and posey. i think they might've given up some draft picks too...but still, thats a good look for the heat. grizz didnt get a bad deal either...i mean, lopez is nice, not to mention jones. but i'm not sure they gained much...lopez and posey to jones and williams are like parallels eachother...essentially the same players.
boston got a good deal...woods is still a young player, and has a lot of time to develop. bortchardt or whatever is too...a good big man to have. i thought they were going to keep walker after they traded back for him after trading him away...kind of a weird situation...doesnt happen many times where a player gets traded away twice in his career by the same team. they kind of ran around in circles in that case, but speaking strictly of this transaction, the celts did well.
not sure whats up with the jazz...lopez was a good young PG to have...and just to end up with ostertag again? an aging center who was never all that talented in the first place?? maybe i'm missing something.
i'm not sure what the hornets situation is...but i suppose butler and snyder are good players to have ona rebuilding team.

ballistic
08-03-2005, 03:44 PM
also, bonzi wells went to sacramento for bobby jackson and someone else...and the nets picked up abdul-rahim from the blazers. nets might have something next year...

Hayabusa
08-03-2005, 08:50 PM
Nets will probably be a top 5 team next year with Pistons,Heat, and Paces.

ballistic
08-04-2005, 12:10 AM
..i cant get over this heat lineup: jason williams, dwyane wade, antoine walker, udonis haslem, shaquille o'neal. damn! that's going to be electrifying...
check out expert analysis on this trade from lang whitaker of SLAM:

Boom! After a month of nothing happening, the NBA exploded into a fury of player movement yesterday. But we'll get to that in a minute.
....
...Of course, the big news is the biggest trade in NBA history: 5 teams, 13 players, a handful of draft picks and one severed achilles tendon. Let's go through it player by player...

Antoine Walker (from Boston to Miami)
Mr. 3000 has a new home! After playing the entire season with what appeared to be a severed achilles tendon, completely unable to jump or bend his right leg, Antoine has a new home in Miami, where he might actually be a good fit. All they'll want him to do is stand on the perimeter and shoot three pointers, which is basically a dream come true for Toine. Also, he can gamble/get beat all he wants on defense because he'll have the Diesel behind him, guarding the lane. I guess the real question is whether Toine can coexist with Dwyane Wade and not be afraid to let Wade handle the ball more than him.

Jason Williams (from Memphis to Miami)
Whit Eboy in Miami? Good gosh. While his wifebeaters and shiny shorts will fit in well on South Beach, his game is a different story. If I was the Heat, considering that I've got the most dominant post man in the League and the most dynamic offensive guard, I want my point guard to do two things:
1) Dribble the ball up and pass it to either Shaq or Wade.
2) Play tight defense.
Thus far, Jason Williams has shown an inclination to neither pass the ball or defend. Hubie Brown tried to run a conventional offense in Memphis, and Williams did OK in it, but when Fratello put in his halfcourt plan, things fizzled.

James Posey (from Memphis to Miami)
I've always been a big Posey supporter. Three years ago, in Denver, he was the best player on the Nuggets, doing a bit of everything. Since then, with Houston and Memphis, he's been asked to be a complementary player, and he seems to have lost some of that fire through the years. Still, he immediately becomes an upgrade from Rasual Butler.

Andre Emmett (from Memphis to Miami)
Throw in!

Eddie Jones (from Miami to Memphis)
Let me get this straight: Memphis traded their best backcourt player and a valuable swingman, and in return they got a 34-year-old two guard? With Bobby Jackson on board, I suppose they'll start BJ, EJ, Mike Miller, Pau and Lorenzen Wright? And this makes them a better team?

Roberto Duenas (from the Hornets to Miami)
I love Duenas. Years ago I wrote that when you look at him, he just screams "Pituitary!" He's got some biological issues which keeps him from running any faster than Hubie Brown, but he's about eight feet tall and he has really hairy shoulders. Just fun all around. Yes, he just got cut by my main man Joan Laporta over at FC Barcelona, but he jumped over to Girona and I don't think we'll be seeing him here.

Greg Ostertag (from Memphis to Utah)
It's only right that Greg Ostertag be playing Utah, where he and Jerry Sloan will spend the season loving and hating each other. Ostertag is also the only NBA player that makes me laugh every night, what with his constant stumbling around and fouling and just general goofiness.

Curtis Borchardt (from Utah to Boston)
Bill Walton 3000.

Qyntel Woods (from Miami to Boston)
Everywhere he's gone, people have raved about Qyn's athletic ability, but he's never been given a chance to play. Now he has a chance to team with Ricky Davis and become the craziest perimeter combo in the NBA.

Albert Miralles (from Miami to Boston)
Buddy gets no burn in Europe, so don't expect him to be blazing a trail to Boston anytime soon. I guess we can assume he had the proper "brain type" to join the Celts.

Two second-round draft picks and cash (from Miami to Boston)
Yeah.

Rasual Butler (from Miami to New Orleans)
The Hornets desperately need bodies, and Butler should get a lot of time with New Orleans. I like that the Hornets are rebuilding slowly, and Butler will get plenty of time to hone his raw talent. But New Orleans remains the worst team in the Western Conference.

Kirk Snyder (from Utah to New Orleans)
Ditto.

Raul Lopez (from Utah to Memphis)
Just to make the numbers add up, Utah had to include Raul's contract in this deal. Raul has supposedly already agreed to return to Spain with Girona, which is turning into the Dream Team with him, Duenas and Orlando's defected Fran Vazquez. I just had no idea that Lopez was so against Scientology.

Which team made out the best? Well, the Hornets got two good players and gave up nothing. The Heat are transformed into a more veteran team, and, despite adding Antoine Walker, they'll be more athletic than last year. But they also gained more issues than ever before, and I wonder how much of this deal was Pat Riley just being bored and wanting to do something. How often do you see a top team blow everything up year after year without Mark Cuban being involved? Memphis offloaded salary and bodies. Everyone else just ended up moving laterally.

RynMur
08-04-2005, 01:27 AM
..........and the suns.

ballistic
08-05-2005, 08:05 PM
garnett to the pistons for b. & r. wallace? that trade is said to have been talked about between detroit and minnesota. can't say i like it....KG is Minnesota's franchise player and they don't need to be releasing him. and the wallaces are too much a part of the pistons for that chemistry to be broken up right now.

RynMur
08-05-2005, 11:13 PM
Yea I don't think that'll pass.

ballistic
08-06-2005, 12:31 AM
yeah i dont either...just a lot of stuff circulating. damon stoudemire signed with memphis to replace jason williams...antonio daniels is with washington, who lost both larry hughes, to cleveland, and juan dixon, to the blazers, but also gained caron butler in a trade that also saw chucky atkins arrive as kwame brown departed. that should be interesting...kwame + kobe...we already saw what happened with jordan + kwame...i imagine much the same will happen in LA.

there is a hangup in the joe johnson/boris diaw trade, because one of the ATL owners wont sign the provisions contract for the trade...its basically a power move, as ATL has 9 different owners all jostling for position. they're going to court with that....

RynMur
08-06-2005, 02:28 AM
I don't see why any of the Hawk owners would even think about not signing that trade for Johnson, they would finally add a little depth to their team. I'm just hoping the Suns can maybe pick up Michael Finley during the off season.

JOHNNY_TICAL
08-06-2005, 06:29 AM
Crazy Shit.. Right Now In The League.. > Miami Pretty Sick. But Laker Till I Die . >!


Peace !!

wurley
08-06-2005, 12:53 PM
i hope the san antonio spurs wins not next season!!!!!!
i hope the amercain scream team wins the next season!! :)

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS or CHICAGO BULLS!!!!!!!

whats you think about this????? wurley big l r.i.p.

ballistic
08-06-2005, 08:31 PM
I don't see why any of the Hawk owners would even think about not signing that trade for Johnson, they would finally add a little depth to their team. I'm just hoping the Suns can maybe pick up Michael Finley during the off season.


the guy who isn't signing doesnt really know much about basketball, for one thing..and apparently, the other 8 owners usually ignore him, and so this was his chance to put the spotlight on his ego. i'm sure it will work out though...its going to be 8 guys vs. 1 guy in court, and joe johnson isnt going to try to go back to phoenix; he's burnt all his bridges there, and he's said frankly he doesnt want to play there.

Ouroborous
08-11-2005, 01:19 PM
The Los Angeles Lakers have waived forward Brian Grant (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brian_grant/index.html), it was announced today by General Manager Mitch Kupchak. The team also announced that Grant will be designated as the team’s amnesty player as allowed in the new collective bargaining agreement.


Grant, acquired July 14, 2004 from the Miami Heat along with Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and a future first round draft pick in exchange for Shaquille O’Neal, has averaged 10.7 points, 7.6 rebounds and 28.8 minutes over 735 games in his 11 season career. “The amnesty rule was not in place and thus not a factor when we made the trade which included Brian,” said Kupchak. “However, this is a one-time opportunity to take advantage of this situation, and exercising this will give us greater roster flexibility and the ability to improve our team. We’re grateful to Brian for his professionalism and contributions to our team last season and wish him the best of luck with the rest of his career.”

ch-chef
08-11-2005, 06:06 PM
i hope the san antonio spurs wins not next season!!!!!!
i hope the amercain scream team wins the next season!! :)

CLEVELAND CAVALIERS or CHICAGO BULLS!!!!!!!

whats you think about this????? wurley big l r.i.p.
with lebron anythings possible, if u take his improvement from his 1st to 2nd year, then figure hes more then likely to made even bigger strides in this off-season...all i can say is....watch out.

sakk
08-12-2005, 10:11 PM
http://www.ka-thunk.com/images/SkyBox_New_Orleans_Hornets.gif

coqaine
08-13-2005, 11:26 AM
kevin garnett = the $hit

Murdah Piff
08-17-2005, 03:53 PM
The Heat Will Sonn The Nba This Year

GhostfaceKillah199
08-18-2005, 04:10 PM
MAVS WAIVED FINLEY!!!!!!!! HELL NO!!!!! I'm a Mavs/Hawks fan. finley is one of my favorite players, that brother could shoot. Figures that the 2 teams with the biggest stars are stackin themselves, Mia getting j will and walker(and might get finley), and cleveland getting hughes and marshall. those are gonna be 2 of the top 3 this year yall(with detroit at no. 2 again). btw, I hope the knicks suck again this year, those fools bore the hell out of me and I can't stand marbury's ballhoggin, "I'm the best point gaurd in the league" ass. peace

GhostfaceKillah199
08-18-2005, 04:15 PM
lol @ sakk reppin the hornets. Dickau ran ish down there last year. that dude killed for me in fantasy and I won my league with his help. peace

ballistic
08-19-2005, 06:45 PM
MAVS WAIVED FINLEY!!!!!!!! HELL NO!!!!! I'm a Mavs/Hawks fan. finley is one of my favorite players, that brother could shoot. Figures that the 2 teams with the biggest stars are stackin themselves, Mia getting j will and walker(and might get finley), and cleveland getting hughes and marshall. those are gonna be 2 of the top 3 this year yall(with detroit at no. 2 again). btw, I hope the knicks suck again this year, those fools bore the hell out of me and I can't stand marbury's ballhoggin, "I'm the best point gaurd in the league" ass. peace

ballhog? hardly anyone else took initiative to score, so yea marbury had to pull most of the weight on the points tip. and he still averaged about 8 to 9 assists per game...

RynMur
08-20-2005, 01:38 AM
Suns signed Grant like that's going to do anything for them. The great Reggie Miller is joining Inside the NBA too, glad to see he already has another job.

GhostfaceKillah199
08-20-2005, 02:00 PM
good point ballistic, marbury was surrounded by wackness, especially after muhammed left. peace

maestro wooz
08-20-2005, 02:44 PM
how come every team does great after marbury leaves?

Bone Collecta
08-20-2005, 03:14 PM
If Spurs sign Finley its over

GhostfaceKillah199
08-20-2005, 04:20 PM
^ word

rplay killa R
08-22-2005, 10:55 AM
It's ower even without Finley
I'm a baller from Croatia,you might know it for Drazen Petrovic,Giricek,Kukoc and such...
Just checkin' in
I'm 188cm tall,15 years old,can dunk with 2 hands,once dunked reversed one hand(@14),living for basketball..and wu

ballistic
08-22-2005, 11:16 PM
wow, looks like finley is close to going to miami...williams, finley, walker, haslem, shaq...damn, nice lineup!

maestro wooz
08-23-2005, 03:52 AM
It's ower even without Finley
I'm a baller from Croatia,you might know it for Drazen Petrovic,Giricek,Kukoc and such...
Just checkin' in
I'm 188cm tall,15 years old,can dunk with 2 hands,once dunked reversed one hand(@14),living for basketball..and wu

hahahahahahahahahaha

RynMur
08-23-2005, 04:10 AM
Come here you'll get dunked on by middle schoolers. Yea those guys from Croatia were good lol.

rplay killa R
08-24-2005, 04:16 AM
Yeah,I know...Here overseas no one takes care about teaching kids skills...Your coaches are like expert for ours.You would be amazed how our basketball sistem sucks...I read in a magazine that Stoudemire once dunked in sixth grade.If someone does it here,he'll be in the newspapers...PEACE

TiCaL24
08-31-2005, 01:55 AM
wow, looks like finley is close to going to miami...williams, finley, walker, haslem, shaq...damn, nice lineup!
WADE!

they'll most likely have Haslem, Posey, Mourning, Simien off the bench too.

I don't know how well they'll do though. Seems like not enough balls to go around. They're either gonna tear the shit out of the NBA or become HUGE disappointments... pretty much anything less than an NBA championship will be a huge disappointment haha

TiCaL24
08-31-2005, 11:07 PM
God Damn... Finley to the Spurs

they're 2nd unit would start on most teams

Mohammed/Nesterovic
Duncan/Horry
Bowen/Robinson
Ginobili/Finley
Parker/Van Exel


devistating

TrueDciple
09-01-2005, 12:35 PM
oh shit...i know is too soon yo but i smell another ring ring ring! to to the spurs!


Peace!

maestro wooz
09-01-2005, 02:32 PM
the spurs are cheese

ballistic
09-05-2005, 02:44 PM
WADE!

they'll most likely have Haslem, Posey, Mourning, Simien off the bench too.

I don't know how well they'll do though. Seems like not enough balls to go around. They're either gonna tear the shit out of the NBA or become HUGE disappointments... pretty much anything less than an NBA championship will be a huge disappointment haha

SMH @ my forgetting Wade lol...o well, thats not happening anyway.

spurs are looking impressive, and i think it was a good decision for finley, in that he knows hes aging now, and wants a title more than anything, even more than money or guarenteed burn. i'm seeing spurs vs. heat in the finals....

MefMan36
10-03-2005, 08:52 PM
Yeah, I live in Miami so I get to go to Heat Games all the time. Wade came to my school once he is a nice guy. He signed autographs and took pictures with people. These two little bitches got to meet him because they won some essay writing contest, but they didnt know who he was.

ballistic
10-03-2005, 11:48 PM
lol haha^

Potent1
10-04-2005, 12:11 AM
Knicks just picked up Eddie Curry. I don't know if this is a good move, he missed mad games last season because he was having heart problems...


we'll see

MefMan36
10-04-2005, 08:37 AM
^Oh shit, that sucks. I think eddy and tyson were a really good tandem. Probably the best PF C combo in the L. Peace

ballistic
10-04-2005, 02:07 PM
yeah, but the good thing for the knicks is that they finally got rid of mike sweetney and tim thomas, the two most pointless players in the L...and now they're on my bulls...great.

lol check this story out...yall know rafer alston a/k/a skip to my lou right? well he's been on toronto, and he just did a team preview for SLAM's the Links for the Raptors...and then like right after that, he was promptly traded to Houston for Mike James...no comment on that stupid trade for Toronto, but its kind of funny because his preview is in today's edition of SLAM's the Links, but now he's not a part of that anymore. o well, i think that's an awesome trade for the rockets...alston averaged 14 points and 6 assists last season, so they only had to give up mike james to get a real PG.

MefMan36
10-04-2005, 02:12 PM
Oh shit, Rockets just won themselves a title. Thats crazy. Adding Stromile Swift and Rafer Alston, along with T-Mac and Yao? That really is insane.

MefMan36
10-04-2005, 02:19 PM
Alston's numbers last season: 14.2 points, 3.5 rebounds, 6.4 assists and 1.48 steals 20.9 Minutes

Mike James numbers: 11.8 points, 2.8 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 25.1 minutes

What a retarted trade, lol. Plus James averaged 4 more minutes a game on the Rockets. Alston should get a lot more playing time. He would probably average 25-30 mins a game and his numbers will skyrocket. He was one of my favorite players when he was in Miami and I'm glad he is advancing his career. Peace

baby jesus
10-04-2005, 02:37 PM
I'm Kinda Skeptical About This Trade For Curry He's Got Heart Problems His Carrer Can End Half Way Through The Season Easily Plus He's Just Adding More Money To This Horrible Cap Situation The Knicks Have. Have Fun With Tim Thomas He Is Literally Useless Sweetney Though I Liked Him He Works Hard And Can Grab Rebounds But He's Not To Talented. But If It Works Out Great Knicks Main Concern Has To Be A Big Man And They Got One.

MefMan36
10-04-2005, 03:44 PM
Yeah, Tim Thomas is a bitch also, lol. Remember that shit with Kenyon Martin? LMAO.

Oh yeah I read (I think it was on foxsports) that the bulls offered Curry $400,000 a year for the next 50 years if he took the DNA test and failed it. That way, if he did have a heart condition and they wouldn't let him play in the NBA, he would be set for life and still live an above average life. What a dumbass! He should've taken the test. If he took it and passed, there would be no doubt he would be ok, and he would resign with the bulls for probably 5 years. But now everyone doubts him and once his contract is up again, he will go thru the same shit. Plus if he did have a heart condition, he would've been set for life and never have to do a god damn thing ever again. He is the biggest idiot ever.

ballistic
10-04-2005, 04:08 PM
Yeah, Tim Thomas is a bitch also, lol. Remember that shit with Kenyon Martin? LMAO.

Oh yeah I read (I think it was on foxsports) that the bulls offered Curry $400,000 a year for the next 50 years if he took the DNA test and failed it. That way, if he did have a heart condition and they wouldn't let him play in the NBA, he would be set for life and still live an above average life. What a dumbass! He should've taken the test. If he took it and passed, there would be no doubt he would be ok, and he would resign with the bulls for probably 5 years. But now everyone doubts him and once his contract is up again, he will go thru the same shit. Plus if he did have a heart condition, he would've been set for life and never have to do a god damn thing ever again. He is the biggest idiot ever.

yeah..but i think this is where the ethical issues came in...if he took the DNA test, then the chicago bulls would also have access to information like, is curry going to have problems with alcoholism or balding in his future..and he just didnt feel comfortable doing it. i think he should have done a personal DNA test before he did one with the Bulls, just so he could know himself so he could make a better decision...o well..

MefMan36
10-04-2005, 04:55 PM
True, True but who would care if everyone knows theyre going to be bald or not. And I'm sure they could've signed a confidentiality agreement or w.e. Peace

MefMan36
10-04-2005, 05:02 PM
So what you guys think of Jalen Rose? I think he's a good solid player and would be a great addition to most teams in the L. He wants out of Toronto and I don't think they want him either. But he has a HUGE contract. What u think they should do? Trade him to a team the could afford him? Oh yeah, how many years he got left on his contract? And who signed him to this contract? Was it Chicago? I dont pay much attention to the contract extensions and shit, peace.

ballistic
10-05-2005, 02:01 PM
i like jalen rose, and i dont blame him for his stance against toronto management...they havent been reassuring at all and have been quite unstable, and purportedly their treatment of their players are less than complementary. if toronto wants to get rid of him, then yeah they should trade him. personally i think he's a good component to any team, but for his sake i hope rose is traded. i think it might've been chicago, because that was his last team. not sure about the rest of his contract though...

baby jesus
10-05-2005, 02:05 PM
Jalen Uhh The Fab Five Killed Me. But He's Pretty Good He Usually Puts A Hurtin On The Knicks. I Dont See Why Toronto Would Hold Him Up He Aint The One To Tip The Scales There But He Could Help Out A Team Thats In Playoff Contention.

MefMan36
10-05-2005, 02:07 PM
I think they should trade him to NY because he could start over there and its also the only team that could make players with Salary that matches his, lol

baby jesus
10-05-2005, 02:08 PM
Oh shit, Rockets just won themselves a title. Thats crazy. Adding Stromile Swift and Rafer Alston, along with T-Mac and Yao? That really is insane.I Got To Be Honest With You I Dont Think A Team With T-Mac Will Ever Win A Championship He's Not That Type Of Player To Me. He's Selfish.

MefMan36
10-05-2005, 02:10 PM
^He did start passing a lot last year tho. I think he's good when you surround him with Stars. But when he's with no-names he feels he has to do everything and ends up becoming too selfish.

baby jesus
10-05-2005, 02:14 PM
Naaa He Did Start Passing More But It Still Just Seems Like Whatever Team He's On The Mentality Is Like He'll Do It And Everybody Gets Lazy And Falls Back So If Someone Gives Him Problems The Team Collapses. Plus After He Made That Guarntee With The Magic That Just Bothered Me.

MefMan36
10-11-2005, 07:59 AM
Amare is going to undergo Knee surgery and he may miss the first month of the season incuding Training camp. But the suns want to address this problem sonner rather than later. How do you think they will do minus their youg star center?

baby jesus
10-11-2005, 02:08 PM
That Will Hurt But They'll Keep There Head Above Water Till He Gets Back I Think.

MefMan36
10-11-2005, 02:17 PM
Damn, just released that Amare Stoudamire is now going to be out for 4 MONTHS! Damn, the Suns are no longer going to be a contender. They lost Q, JJ, and now Amare is out for 4 months, that's horrible.

baby jesus
10-11-2005, 02:55 PM
Woah, Yeah Thats Rough 4 Months That Hurts Bad Steve Nash Can't Do It Alone.

MefMan36
10-11-2005, 02:56 PM
It's going to be Steve Nash and Shawn Marion trying to win a championship alone.

bonez
10-14-2005, 04:26 PM
Who do you guys think will take the champ? Im going with Spurs

MefMan36
10-14-2005, 04:33 PM
heat

baby jesus
10-14-2005, 04:44 PM
Man It's To Early To Call But I'm Gonna Lean Towards The Spurs. Even Though It's Tough To Repeat. But There The Champs Till Proven Otherwise.

xOCTOPUSx
10-16-2005, 01:31 PM
It's all about the NEW YORK KNICKS...yeah baby Nate Robinson, Trevor Ariza,David Lee.

Man we got a brand new team. Plus Larry Brown is moving Steph to S.G and Jamal Crawford will be moving to P.G!

RynMur
10-16-2005, 01:46 PM
U forgot Channie Frye

MefMan36
10-16-2005, 02:21 PM
Channing Frye is a beast! And is it true that Larry's moving Starbury to SG or is it just a rumor? Cuz Steph would kill at SG.