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spiggity_ace
05-09-2009, 04:48 PM
why is it so bad, can someone tell me about it, whats the symbolism of eating a swine that is so bad, and does it include stuff like pepperoni, bacon etc., i know some muslims who say they dont eat swine but still eat bacon and pepperoni.

begongo
05-09-2009, 05:12 PM
it's not bad

LORD NOSE
05-09-2009, 05:27 PM
it's not bad


then what is it ?

begongo
05-09-2009, 05:29 PM
do you expect me to say it's good?

LORD NOSE
05-09-2009, 05:40 PM
no -

HANZO
05-09-2009, 05:55 PM
i have a great dislike for muslims who eat pork. there is alot of them who do. you would be surprised. some who come from different sects of Islam try to justify it by saying they are allowed, but thats even more ludicrous.

anyway the story goes that back in the day ppl who ate swine got ill more often than not. in addition the fact that pigs will try and eat anything and eat their own shit only solidifies the fact that it is a dirty animal. reason why we are told not to eat swine.

LORD NOSE
05-09-2009, 06:23 PM
the pig was made to eat the dead

narc
05-09-2009, 06:26 PM
then what is it ?

food

whitey
05-09-2009, 07:33 PM
i did learn from the movie snatch to be wary of any man that keeps a pig farm.

spiggity_ace
05-09-2009, 08:01 PM
so the only reason muslims cant eat pig is becuz its unclean, i thought their was something else involved.

Bobby Budknickers
05-09-2009, 08:14 PM
i fount out swine was in pop tarts in 89'



so what do muslims eat for christmas if ham isn't allowed????????

DeeBlock
05-09-2009, 08:56 PM
Actually, the Quran forbids swine meat, PERIOD. That is the reason. The Quran does not say why it is forbidden, it just is.

The old testament also forbids swine meat. Ironically, a lot of the people who claim to be Christians eat pork. Their argument for doing so is that Jesus brought the new testament and the old testament is outdated. This excuse is hypocrisy of course, because Christians follow other old testament verses; they basically choose what to follow from their book like a buffet.

beautifulrock
05-09-2009, 09:19 PM
i fount out swine was in pop tarts in 89'



so what do muslims eat for christmas if ham isn't allowed????????hahaahahahahahahahahahaaahahaahhaa

fortyglock
05-09-2009, 09:29 PM
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check two
05-10-2009, 05:37 PM
Won't other animals such as chickens eat just about anything also? There are quite a few humans that are just as dirty, or even dirtier than pigs too. Look at the amount of obese people in the world.

Tage
05-10-2009, 05:41 PM
eating swine isn't bad. but some religions believe that it is the most dirty of all animals etc, therefore un-healthy etc... thats why.


.....the other reasons are because...

i did learn from the movie snatch to be wary of any man that keeps a pig farm.


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Tage
05-10-2009, 05:45 PM
"Now if you wouldn't mind tellin' me who the fuck you are... apart from someone who feeds people to pigs, of course."

check two
05-10-2009, 05:47 PM
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Tage
05-10-2009, 05:55 PM
^yup! necro knows his quotables.

EAGLE EYE
05-10-2009, 06:46 PM
Animals are dirty period.


But what is dirty?

Mumm Ra
05-10-2009, 07:11 PM
Won't other animals such as chickens eat just about anything also?
no
There are quite a few humans that are just as dirty, or even dirtier than pigs too. Look at the amount of obese people in the world.
do you eat those humans too?
Why is eating swine bad?
because it is unhealthy to eat.
the end.

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
05-10-2009, 07:15 PM
It is no unhealthier than beef.

However, during biblical times, trichinosis was rampant and carried by pigs.

check two
05-10-2009, 07:16 PM
I didn't say I eat pork. And chickens have eaten their own crap before. Some humans do too, especially in porno films.

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
05-10-2009, 07:18 PM
Goats will eat anything too.

The Hound
05-10-2009, 07:34 PM
So, do you guys who don't eat any "swine" because a pig eats its own shit eat fish or other assorted Seafood, by anychance?

Olive Oil Goombah
05-10-2009, 08:20 PM
I just ate some delicious bacon this morning at the family mother's day brunch...fucking delicious.

Also they had two kinds of egg quicsh....one sausage, one veggie. They also had sausage patties, homefries, beglian waffles, fruit, these pecan cinnamon rolls, bagels, toast, donuts......We did it up large this morning....OJ to top it all off.

Dayum i was stuffed. and the most memorable parts for me was the way my aunt perfectly cooked the bacon. OUTSTANDING.....that and the pecan cinnaomon rolls.

Tage
05-10-2009, 08:25 PM
^you mean 'quiche'... yeah, bacon and cheese quiche is the shit, yo!

Stikee Fingerz
05-10-2009, 09:10 PM
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harm77
05-10-2009, 09:30 PM
I just ate some delicious bacon this morning at the family mother's day brunch...fucking delicious.

Also they had two kinds of egg quicsh....one sausage, one veggie. They also had sausage patties, homefries, beglian waffles, fruit, these pecan cinnamon rolls, bagels, toast, donuts......We did it up large this morning....OJ to top it all off.

Dayum i was stuffed. and the most memorable parts for me was the way my aunt perfectly cooked the bacon. OUTSTANDING.....that and the pecan cinnaomon rolls.




fucking dumb ass lmao hahahahahahahahahahaha

EAGLE EYE
05-10-2009, 09:41 PM
Bacon is incredible. I would eat it all day if I could.

whitey
05-10-2009, 09:43 PM
not eating bacon is a crime.

possibly one of the most ridiculous things in the history of mankind.

i respect muslims and peoples different ways of doing things but people not eating bacon are straight trippin.

check two
05-10-2009, 10:12 PM
I never liked bacon, but it smells good when it's cooking.

LORD NOSE
05-10-2009, 10:15 PM
Won't other animals such as chickens eat just about anything also?

Yes chickens do eat just about anything
but they have 2 stomach and are built to digest whatever they eat

pigs don't - pigs hold toxins and poison in its flesh


There are quite a few humans that are just as dirty, or even dirtier than pigs too. Look at the amount of obese people in the world.


so are you agreeing that pigs are dirty

Tage
05-10-2009, 10:19 PM
Bacon is incredible. I would eat it all day if I could.

bollocks. beef is the best of the meat world. i havent tried human, though.

check two
05-10-2009, 10:22 PM
Yeah, I agree that pigs are dirty, and so are just about any animal including humans. Giraffe's are pretty clean though.

whitey
05-10-2009, 10:26 PM
bollocks. beef is the best of the meat world. i havent tried human, though.


lets not sell the turkey short tage.

i can make just as mean a turkey burger, and turkey tacos. and lets not for get just plain thanksgiving turkey and its accompanying gravy. truly a gift to mankind.

i think thanksgiving turkey with gravy and bacon on top of that would be one of the best things ever. i may try that next tday.

Tage
05-10-2009, 10:31 PM
"Pull your tongue out of my arsehole, Gary. Dogs do that. You're not a dog, are ya Gary?"

LORD NOSE
05-10-2009, 10:33 PM
Yeah, I agree that pigs are dirty, and so are just about any animal including humans. Giraffe's are pretty clean though.

pigs are not just dirty, there is poison in its fleash

Tage
05-10-2009, 10:35 PM
^explain. are you involved in a religion that disables you from enjoying pig based products?

Bobby Budknickers
05-10-2009, 10:35 PM
if i was gonna get the gas chamber, and they asked me what i wanted for my last meal, it would definitely be thanksgiving themed. best meal of the year for me is always thanksgiving.


fish, beef, chicken, swine

i love it all, but i gotta go with turkey

Tage
05-10-2009, 10:42 PM
^really? one last meal would include pork?


i dont actually eat pork(yet im not religious)... its too salty for me. i love bacon, ham and every other pig based food... just dont like pure roast pork.

whitey
05-10-2009, 10:43 PM
i did learn from the movie snatch to be wary of any man that keeps a pig farm.

"pull your tongue out of my arsehole, gary. Dogs do that. You're not a dog, are ya gary?"

^o^

Tage
05-10-2009, 10:45 PM
"You're a ruthless little cunt Liam, I'll give you that....
...but, I got no time for grasses....
...Feed him to the pigs Errol."

Bobby Budknickers
05-10-2009, 10:56 PM
^really? one last meal would include pork?



no no no


it would thanksgiving turkey




i just was saying that i love fish beef chicken pork



actually, if i die by gas chamber i want mexican


if i die by electric chair then then maybe i go with pork


lethal injection would be the thanksgiving turkey






turkey makes the gringo tired

Tage
05-10-2009, 10:58 PM
slightly off-topic.... i tried making chicken fried rice tonight, but it tasted like shit. so i stuck some burgers under the grill. no pork involved.

RALPH WIGGUM
05-11-2009, 05:35 AM
"You're a ruthless little cunt Liam, I'll give you that....
...but, I got no time for grasses....
...Feed him to the pigs Errol."

Do you know what Nemesis means?

Mumm Ra
05-11-2009, 06:10 AM
i dont actually eat pork(yet im not religious)...
same here

its too salty for me.
yeah cuz ya know pigs don't have functional sweat glands so all the sweaty salty puss that doesn't ooze out of their hooves is chillin all up in their flesh.
yummy.

The Hound
05-11-2009, 07:05 AM
So, do you guys who don't eat any "swine" because a pig eats its own shit eat fish or other assorted Seafood, by anychance?

This question is always too difficult for those who refuse to eat pig related products due to the animal eating it's own shit.

LORD NOSE
05-11-2009, 09:13 AM
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15021

dezmond
05-11-2009, 01:08 PM
This question is always too difficult for those who refuse to eat pig related products due to the animal eating it's own shit.

Fish is not a mammal so dont count..

Fish dont eat shit..

(sea)fish live in saltwater so its sterilised so it dont matter...


Question is not too difficult...

Keep eatin pork eat as much as you can if you like it..

Tage
05-11-2009, 01:33 PM
Do you know what Nemesis means?


A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me.

RALPH WIGGUM
05-11-2009, 01:57 PM
A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me.

It was a rethorical question Errol, what did I tell you about thinking?

About the thread, I stand as Huey, I couldnt be a muslim cause I love my bacon too much. But i KNow there are people who dont eat pig even if they're not muslim, cause its supposed to be dirty. I respect that, but I dont think I could ever decide not to eat bacon anymore.
But I do respect somebody that can.

Mr. Muhammad
05-11-2009, 02:41 PM
Salaam (Peace) to all...

Dangers of Eating Pork

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9502E3DB113AE63BBC4A51DFB2668383669FDE

Shogah
05-12-2009, 05:29 PM
I didn't bother to check all the replies, maybe some clever head already mentioned it but roots of not eating swine even before bible could be found in everyday life of the man who lived in that age.

See muslims mostly lived in the dessert, and jews too. So as egyptians and some other prosperous civilizations.

Since in dessert is very hot it's normal not to eat swine on 40 degrees.

You don't roast your pig, it's unhealthy to eat food with so much fat on that temperature.

MAny of the stuff that is mentioned in the bible actually HAVE their practical purpose.

Kevlaar 7
06-20-2009, 03:05 PM
what alot of people don't know is that Christians are forbidden the swine also. let's look at the FACTS.......

PIG & PORK FACTS
THE pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet Christians are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned the eating of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound biological principles. Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy food to eat: http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef or venison.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, the toxins remain within its body and in the meat.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine or other poisons.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be killed.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus 11:8).
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism.
http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig.
There are other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to show why pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only need one reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it.
"And the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, it is unclean unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase." - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8
Those who say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their stomach not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ never changed the laws of biology.

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diggy
06-20-2009, 04:29 PM
^^Much respect.

spiggity_ace
06-20-2009, 05:28 PM
o shit dope, peace kevlaar, i feel honored, a rapper posted in my thread lol, thanks for tha facts homie.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-20-2009, 05:34 PM
Because it's a dirty animal

Btw Ribs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LORD NOSE
06-20-2009, 06:33 PM
PIG & PORK FACTS



repped


i'll add this to the war on swine thread


http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15021

Kevlaar 7
06-20-2009, 09:31 PM
Peace jasjit no doubt! i'mma be back on this Know the ledge thread sun! but word; thems all facts G. matter of fact take religion outta the equation and JUST with the biological facts of the pig, NO ONE should want to eat this shit. u might as well smoke 5 packs of ciggarettes a day if you eat bacon every morning. its only a different form of cancer!! PEACE!

zooruka
06-20-2009, 09:49 PM
christians are free to eat what ever they want...



jesus said " its not what goes into a person that makes them unclean but what comes out of them" in saying this jesus is declaring all foods are fit to be eaten.


peace

LORD NOSE
06-20-2009, 11:25 PM
christians are free to eat what ever they want...



jesus said " its not what goes into a person that makes them unclean but what comes out of them" in saying this jesus is declaring all foods are fit to be eaten.


peace


that part that is saying > in saying this jesus is declaring all foods are fit to be eaten.

is being said by who ? who is this interpreting what they think jesus is saying


this part > in saying this jesus is declaring all foods are fit to be eaten.


is in parenthesis - meaning that is an interpretation of a translationif what goes into a man doesn't make him unclean, why not just eat cake all day every daydrink liquor as much as you want if you like it

smoke crack cause its not what goes into a man that makes him unclean but its what comes out lol

and what is it that comes out yo ?









there is also a part in the book of Timothy that says something about all foods being ok to eat - but who is timothy ?

and who is timothy to change what God has instructed his people not to do ?

diggy
06-20-2009, 11:33 PM
christians are free to eat what ever they want...



jesus said " its not what goes into a person that makes them unclean but what comes out of them" in saying this jesus is declaring all foods are fit to be eaten.


peace







Is it ok for christians to eat this?








http://www.moray.gov.uk/museums/homes/rodine.jpg

LORD NOSE
06-20-2009, 11:35 PM
Instructions to Timothy

1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.


2Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.

4For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.





who the hell is timothy ?





Isaiah 66:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&verse=17&version=31&context=verse)
"Those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following the one in the midst of those who eat the flesh of pigs and rats and other abominable things—they will meet their end together," declares the LORD.
Isaiah 66:16-18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&verse=16&end_verse=18&version=31&context=context) (in Context) Isaiah 66 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&version=31&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)


who is timothy ?

zooruka
06-21-2009, 12:14 AM
Is it ok for christians to eat this?








http://www.moray.gov.uk/museums/homes/rodine.jpg


obviously you are to take the command with a bit of common sense!


peace

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 12:19 AM
Is it ok for christians to eat this?








http://www.moray.gov.uk/museums/homes/rodine.jpg

Hopefully

diggy
06-21-2009, 12:22 AM
obviously you are to take the command with a bit of common sense!


peace


Is it not common sense that pig meat is unhealthy for human consumption?

zooruka
06-21-2009, 12:23 AM
that part that is saying > in saying this jesus is declaring all foods are fit to be eaten.

is being said by who ? who is this interpreting what they think jesus is saying


this part > in saying this jesus is declaring all foods are fit to be eaten.


is in parenthesis - meaning that is an interpretation of a translationif what goes into a man doesn't make him unclean, why not just eat cake all day every daydrink liquor as much as you want if you like it

smoke crack cause its not what goes into a man that makes him unclean but its what comes out lol

and what is it that comes out yo ?









there is also a part in the book of Timothy that says something about all foods being ok to eat - but who is timothy ?

and who is timothy to change what God has instructed his people not to do ?

um the interpreter was using basic common sense when making that statment "that all foods are fit to be eaten" really there is not much else JESUS could be meaning when said "its not what goes into aperson that makes them unclean" he is talking about food among other things aswell.. obviously he is not saying you should be a glutton or a drunkard or a drug addict but he is in fact saying that " IF YOU ARE STUCK IN THESE HABITS" you will not be considered unclean by GOD...but rather its what comes out of you"the way you behave" that determines whether your clean or not.....not if you eat pork or drink to muck or take drugs....which if you think about makes perfect wisdom because you could obstain from all these things and be a real jerk to people but what because you dont eat prok or drink or take drugs you are considered good in Gods eyes... that is flawed logic ....no GOD does not care about things like that anymore he has given a new command which is to love you neighbour as you love your self...this is what matters to GOD not whether you eat to much cake or whatever....now that is perfect wisdom.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 12:23 AM
Is it not common sense that pig meat is unhealthy for human consumption?

I eat ribs all the time, I don't see it affecting my health negatively.

diggy
06-21-2009, 12:28 AM
I eat ribs all the time, I don't see it affecting my health negatively.


Through time...

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 12:30 AM
Through time...

Through time eating cake all the time could hurt you..


Are you saying Muslims can't eat cake?

food for thought
06-21-2009, 12:36 AM
theyre dirty animals.

especially the way they are raised and kept in pig farms.

it is a filthy environment.

they are extremly overcrowded in a small space.

most of them die. the other pigs feed on the dead pigs.

they also feed on their own shit.

not to mention the "medicine" they are given to try and make them live longer in these environments

do u see yourself eating all this?




some farms where chickens and cows are raised and kept are the same way as well.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 12:41 AM
Every animal is dirty.

Almost every food can have negative health affects as well.

I just don't get why religious beliefs have to affect your diet. But I guess if you think it's doing good then go for it?

I don't think I'll ever really get it but then again I'm an atheist so I don't have to worry about it I guess, oh well.

food for thought
06-21-2009, 12:46 AM
dont misunderstand

i was not saying anything about religion

i was explaining my understanding of why pigs are dirty animals

Almost every food can have negative health affects as well.

yes

and u shouldnt eat that shit either

its not a coincidence.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 12:48 AM
I wasn't really directly replying to you even though your post got me typing about it.

And I shouldn't eat what?

Food?

Can't not eating hurt you too?

Sounds like a lose lose to me...

Sorry for my sarcastic behavior it's late for me and I feel like being some what of a dick.

food for thought
06-21-2009, 12:52 AM
there is healthy food u can eat.

every hear of processed/unproccessed food?

people just choose not to do it.

partly due to ignorance and laziness

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 01:01 AM
there is healthy food u can eat.

every hear of processed/unproccessed food?

people just choose not to do it.

partly due to ignorance and laziness

Any food consumed enough could lead to negative health affects weather it be processed or unprocessed, meat could led to an array of health problems weather it's processed or not from Heart Disease to Colon cancer. While vegetarian diets have a low amount of protein in them as well as Vitamin B.

Point is with everything we eat we put ourselves at risk in some way shape or form.

food for thought
06-21-2009, 01:11 AM
there are healthy diets that one can adopt.

this consists of mainly greens and other vegetabes.




why do u think so much food is unhealthy?

is this a natural thing?

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 01:13 AM
I'm not saying all food is unhealthy I'm saying all food has a potential health risk involved some more then others.

food for thought
06-21-2009, 01:32 AM
do u think all food has a potential health risk by nature(naturally)?

or do u think its other elements that play a role in this?

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 01:38 AM
I think it's naturally, my bad for forgetting to answer it in my last post.

Even without pesticides and steroids in our foods there would still be a health risk if you consumed too much of the same thing.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 03:18 AM
are you saying that eating filth is good if done in moderation ?

diggy
06-21-2009, 01:57 PM
Through time eating cake all the time could hurt you..


Are you saying Muslims can't eat cake?

Did I really say that or did you say that?


The human body would eventually breakdown. Filling it with junk, makes it breakdown faster than it would without junk.

Pure food is not equivalent to impure food. You speak as if all foods have the same properties and cause the same effects. You lack knowledge and intelligence.

Luza
06-21-2009, 03:07 PM
Pure food is not equivalent to impure food. You speak as if all foods have the same properties and cause the same effects. You lack knowledge and intelligence.

no, he actually says, that pork is not the only type of food, that can be harmfull in long-term.

and further could you explain why he lacks intelligence?

BGS
06-21-2009, 03:45 PM
i discussed the same question with a friend of mine who is a muslim and she said a lot of already mentioned stuff plus because that swine can not look up to the sky and cause the body structur is similar to the human body...don't know about this...

diggy
06-21-2009, 04:47 PM
no, he actually says, that pork is not the only type of food, that can be harmfull in long-term.

and further could you explain why he lacks intelligence?

Give examples of food in it's natural state (untampered by man) that is harmful to humans other than pig meat, IF U CAN. This goes for you too, subconscious!!!

diggy
06-21-2009, 04:56 PM
Any food consumed enough could lead to negative health affects weather it be processed or unprocessed, meat could led to an array of health problems weather it's processed or not from Heart Disease to Colon cancer. While vegetarian diets have a low amount of protein in them as well as Vitamin B.

Point is with everything we eat we put ourselves at risk in some way shape or form.


List some negative health effects of all foods please.

You seem to not know too much about food to say that veggie diets are low in protein.

Ever hear of rice and beans? Lots of protein in that.

Ever heard of hummus? Again, lots of protein.

Ever heard of eggs for vitamin b? Some vegetarians eat eggs. High in vitamin b.

What are the harmful effects of eating all foods please?

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 05:46 PM
There is no safe temperature at which pork can be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be killed

That one is completely false. I'm a cook and that is way off. At about 170 degrees, nothing is living. Shit, if it's not pink in the middle, you're good but the lowest you can really safely serve something is around 140 degrees. Not to mention that other meats contain that shit too, not just pork.

Oh, one more.

http://www.ensignmessage.com/images/Redball.gif Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat.


Also, not entirely true. Pork meat, when you trim off the fat, tends to be leaner than beef. True story, look it up.



Baseless lists of "facts" all done up with nice text and colors doesn't mean shit when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Those are just ones I know off the top of my head. I'd encourage anybody else to follow through on that dudes sources.

EDIT: FUCK I MISSED THIS ONE BUT I KNOW THIS.

Give examples of food in it's natural state (untampered by man) that is harmful to humans other than pig meat, IF U CAN. This goes for you too, subconscious!!!

The answer is.....celery. HAHA, it's true. If you ate, only celery...you would starve to death. It actually costs more calories to chew and digest that you get back from the celery.

Oh my god, I'm owning you guys with the food stuffs. Seriously, I love being a professional cook.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 05:52 PM
um the interpreter was using basic common sense when making that statment "that all foods are fit to be eaten"

is everything food ?

swine is not food

really there is not much else JESUS could be meaning when said "its not what goes into aperson that makes them unclean" he is talking about food among other things aswell.. obviously he is not saying you should be a glutton or a drunkard or a drug addict but he is in fact saying that " IF YOU ARE STUCK IN THESE HABITS" you will not be considered unclean by GOD...but rather its what comes out of you"the way you behave" that determines whether your clean or not.....not if you eat pork or drink to muck or take drugs....which if you think about makes perfect wisdom because you could obstain from all these things and be a real jerk to people but what because you dont eat prok or drink or take drugs you are considered good in Gods eyes... that is flawed logic ....no GOD does not care about things like that anymore he has given a new command which is to love you neighbour as you love your self...this is what matters to GOD not whether you eat to much cake or whatever....now that is perfect wisdom.

i understand the wisdom in the saying -

you can abstain from pork and still be ...wrong - true

but what is sickness and what are the effects of the parasite being lodged into your muscles,spinal fluid, brain ?



are you saying that the god of these scriptures changed his mind



Isaiah 66:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&verse=17&version=31&context=verse)
"Those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following the one in the midst of those who eat the flesh of pigs and ratsand other abominable thingsthey will meet their end together," declares the LORD.
Isaiah 66:16-18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&verse=16&end_verse=18&version=31&context=context) (in Context) Isaiah 66 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&version=31&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)



did jesus say that its now ok for people to eat the flesh of pigs and ratsand other abominable things ?

throughout the scriptures, the enemies of the Israelites were always trying to get them to eat the swine - have they succeeded by giving to you and me a book claiming to have jesus's words in it ?

the part in parenthesis that says (in saying this jesus made all foods clean)

equals this -

18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.




those words in parenthesis are added words telling us what he/she thinks jesus meant by what he supposedly said





Jesus didn't study and follow the new testament
he went by the old books of the old prophets
he read and followed this scripture right here




Isaiah 66:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&verse=17&version=31&context=verse)
"Those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following the one in the midst of those who eat the flesh of pigs and ratsand other abominable thingsthey will meet their end together," declares the LORD.
Isaiah 66:16-18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&verse=16&end_verse=18&version=31&context=context) (in Context) Isaiah 66 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&version=31&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 05:59 PM
Through time eating cake all the time could hurt you..


Are you saying Muslims can't eat cake?


through time smoking crack could hurt you

but since the crack head likes it, he should do it

as long as it feels good to you, you should do it

right ?

sure muslims can eat cake - cake isn't a forbidden delicacy
swine is a forbidden thing to eat according to the religious peoples scripture

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 06:01 PM
edit:double post

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:02 PM
While vegetarian diets have a low amount of protein in them as well as Vitamin B.




not true

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 06:05 PM
but what is sickness and what are the effects of the parasite being lodged into your muscles,spinal fluid, brain ?


Seriously? Literal parasites? Check my above post. That's a complete lie. Fact.

Religious reasons aside, there is absolutely no reason to not eat pork other than individual tastes. If you believe you should not eat it due to your religion...that's your right and I respect that. Just don't tell me I'm wrong because I don't follow your ideals.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:06 PM
not true

Yes true...

Of course you could get the proteins from Vitamins but I was speaking about just food not Vitamins and shit..

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1604363#post1604363)
not true

Yes true...

Of course you could get the proteins from Vitamins but I was speaking about just food not Vitamins and shit..

Actually, Sunny is right. Beans are an extremely good source of low fat protein. Also, nuts and other legumes.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:08 PM
through time smoking crack could hurt you

but since the crack head likes it, he should do it

as long as it feels good to you, you should do it

right ?

sure muslims can eat cake - cake isn't a forbidden delicacy
swine is a forbidden thing to eat according to the religious peoples scripture

So what your saying is eating pork is equivalent to smoking crack?

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:09 PM
That one is completely false. I'm a cook and that is way off. At about 170 degrees, nothing is living. Shit, if it's not pink in the middle, you're good but the lowest you can really safely serve something is around 140 degrees. Not to mention that other meats contain that shit too, not just pork.




study how the trichina worm protects itself
then come back and discuss with us



I think it's naturally, my bad for forgetting to answer it in my last post.

Even without pesticides and steroids in our foods there would still be a health risk if you consumed too much of the same thing.


but we are not discussing taking in too much food/over eating

we are discussing taking in a disgusting animals flesh as food

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:13 PM
Did I really say that or did you say that?


The human body would eventually breakdown. Filling it with junk, makes it breakdown faster than it would without junk.

Pure food is not equivalent to impure food. You speak as if all foods have the same properties and cause the same effects. You lack knowledge and intelligence.

Obviously eating pork could be more dangerous then other food but I wasn't speaking about the different levels if you read what I was saying you would know that.

My entire point was eating any type of food could lead to health risks and as far as naming food well I'll give you a few articles considering I don't feel like typing that much today...

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Trashing_organic_foods

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/the-great-organic-myths-why-organic-foods-are-an-indulgence-the-world-cant-afford-818585.html

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/is-organic-food-safer.php

Those are organically grown foods.

I'll be happy to get more sources if your in need of any.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:16 PM
Seriously? Literal parasites? Check my above post. That's a complete lie. Fact.

Religious reasons aside, there is absolutely no reason to not eat pork other than individual tastes. If you believe you should not eat it due to your religion...that's your right and I respect that. Just don't tell me I'm wrong because I don't follow your ideals.


what is cured meat - and why does it have to be cured ?

if you are saying that swine isn't known to carry parasites, you are misinformed


you are not wrong for eating pork
just misinformed

its also said that its consumption makes the person irrational and brash


have you done any study up on the swine ?

i mean have you really gone and studied the effects of eating swine
and how the pig is made up ?

if you never gave any thought to this until this post, i suggest you research it a lil bit

check two
06-21-2009, 06:17 PM
Yes true...

Of course you could get the proteins from Vitamins but I was speaking about just food not Vitamins and shit..

People can definitely get all the vitamins, minerals, etc. they need from a vegetarian diet. The only thing that might need to be supplemented is B-12.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:17 PM
but we are not discussing taking in too much food/over eating

we are discussing taking in a disgusting animals flesh as food

See I wasn't talking about that either..

If you have the same diet everyday it'll affect your health and that includes eating mainly green foods everyday as well as eating meat everyday. Fact is there is no one diet that is completely void of health risks, just like there is no one person who is perfect in every single way.

I guess what I'm trying to say is nothings perfect..

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 06:18 PM
study how the trichina worm protects itself
then come back and discuss with us


I don't need to. I am a fucking professional cook for a fucking living. Cooking ANY meat to one-hundred-seventy (170) degrees completely kills anything.

Now, look it up yourself and then you can fucking come back and tell me something.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:18 PM
Yes true...

Of course you could get the proteins from Vitamins but I was speaking about just food not Vitamins and shit..


lol - so are you saying that you can only get protein from meat or man made vitamins ?

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:19 PM
So what your saying is eating pork is equivalent to smoking crack?


no - thats not what i'm saying - but i'd rather smoke crack

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 06:20 PM
Seriously, I want you to look that up and prove me wrong. Please.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:21 PM
People can definitely get all the vitamins, minerals, etc. they need from a vegetarian diet. The only thing that might need to be supplemented is B-12.

They could get all the vitamins by consuming actual vitamins, protein as well as B-12 isn't heavy in the vegetarian diet so people must take actually vitamins to compensate for the lack of proteins and B-12 in there diet.

The entire point was even with a vegetarian diet you aint getting everything you need.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:24 PM
I guess what I'm trying to say is nothings perfect..

understood -

you are what you eat -

right ?


we want the best of foods to eat

the pig is a walking toilet and was made to eat the dead from the surface of the earth - it was not made for food - yes it can be made to taste good - but with a little seasoning, so can a cat - hey, would you eat dog and cat ?

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:24 PM
lol - so are you saying that you can only get protein from meat or man made vitamins ?
No you could also get it from seafood, milk, cheese, yogurt, eggs, beans, etc.

Point was in a vegetarian diet you aint getting the necessary amount of proteins.
no - thats not what i'm saying - but i'd rather smoke crack

Hey I'm just going along with your sarcastic behavior..

I think I'd rather eat pork then smoke crack.

And I just wanna say I'm actually having ribs tonight.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:28 PM
understood -

you are what you eat -

right ?


we want the best of foods to eat

the pig is a walking toilet and was made to eat the dead from the surface of the earth - it was not made for food - yes it can be made to taste good - but with a little seasoning, so can a cat - hey, would you eat dog and cat ?

If I liked the taste sure...

Seriously though those animals are pets I don't think Ima have a pig for a pet any time soon..

And I think we could end this "debate" here because we clearly have different beliefs as well as diets I personally love meat and if it tastes good I'll eat it (That's what she said btw) and I know I'm healthy because I also watch how much of a certain food I consume and how much protein, vitamins, etc I am getting. So I guess we can conclude with as long as your careful and make sure you don't over eat and get the shit you need you could eat whatever you want (Edible food obviously).

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:30 PM
I don't need to. I am a fucking professional cook for a fucking living. Cooking ANY meat to one-hundred-seventy (170) degrees completely kills anything.

Now, look it up yourself and then you can fucking come back and tell me something.

relax son -

you are a cook, not a scientist - scientist say that the pig is full of parasites - the cook in a kitchen can receive a certificate from a place that told them they need to know a few things

what exactly are you trying to kill - and why eat something that has something in it that needs to die before you eat it ?

cured meat ?

you cure diseases, right ?


so ok - after you burn up the worms in the flesh of the pig, you eat it - nice - very nice -

check two
06-21-2009, 06:32 PM
A lot of people have pigs as pets too.

diggy
06-21-2009, 06:32 PM
The answer is.....celery. HAHA, it's true. If you ate, only celery...you would starve to death. It actually costs more calories to chew and digest that you get back from the celery.


Celery not having the nutrition humans need does not make it HARMFUL, it makes it deficient.

Celery does NOT cause HARM to humans!!!

Do you know what harmful means?

I suggest you look it up.



Give examples of food in it's natural state (untampered by man) that is harmful to humans other than pig meat, IF U CAN. This goes for you too, subconscious!!!

Obviously eating pork could be more dangerous then other food but I wasn't speaking about the different levels if you read what I was saying you would know that.

My entire point was eating any type of food could lead to health risks and as far as naming food well I'll give you a few articles considering I don't feel like typing that much today...

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Trashing_organic_foods

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/the-great-organic-myths-why-organic-foods-are-an-indulgence-the-world-cant-afford-818585.html

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/is-organic-food-safer.php

Those are organically grown foods.

I'll be happy to get more sources if your in need of any.



Hey subconscious, I said "Give examples of food in it's natural state (untampered by man) that is harmful to humans other than pig meat"


Ecoli is not from veggies. It is from animal waste being blown by the wind onto plants and soil that plans use.

Also, the links you gave do not indicate veggies to be in their natural state. Pesticides are used on them and other tamperings from humans.


Let me post the challenge again:




Give examples of food in it's natural state (untampered by man) that is harmful to humans other than pig meat, IF U CAN. This goes for you too, subconscious!!!


IF YOU CAN!!!

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:33 PM
Point was in a vegetarian diet you aint getting the necessary amount of proteins.


lol - thats not true -

hey - where does the cow get its protein ?


Hey I'm just going along with your sarcastic behavior..

I think I'd rather eat pork then smoke crack.

And I just wanna say I'm actually having ribs tonight.

i wasn't being sarcastic - at all

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:33 PM
A lot of people have pigs as pets too.

And I'm sure those people wouldn't imagine eating pigs just like we can't imagine eating cats or dogs.

I mean other cultures eat cats and dogs and they do so because they don't see the animals as pets unlike us.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:36 PM
And I think we could end this "debate" here because we clearly have different beliefs

nah - i didn't tell you what i believe



as well as diets I personally love meat and if it tastes good I'll eat it (That's what she said btw) and I know I'm healthy because I also watch how much of a certain food I consume and how much protein, vitamins, etc I am getting. So I guess we can conclude with as long as your careful and make sure you don't over eat and get the shit you need you could eat whatever you want (Edible food obviously).

if you want to include the meat of a walking pus machine into your diet, so be it -

i dare you to stop eating pork and its byproducts for 4 months
then eat it again on that 5th month

Charles Barry
06-21-2009, 06:37 PM
Niggas love swine. When you try to tell them to leave it alone they get upset because they don't want to part ways with the pork chops and ham sandwiches.

I had a relative from Alabama visit me a few months ago. He's country as hell so he eats pork, catfish, and all other types of abominations. We had a discussion about it while he was here and he defended the swine like his firstborn. He didn't really like any of the food I buy so he spent most of his time grabbing stuff from fast food joints and restaurants. I don't think I saw him eat one meal without pork in it. The connection between his poor health and diet can't be a coincidence. He's only one year older than me and he's constantly running to the doctor for something.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:38 PM
lol - thats not true -

hey - where does the cow get its protein ?

i wasn't being sarcastic - at all

Yeah it is, vegetarians may get protein but they aint getting as much as meat eaters and the amount they get are usually lower then most people would call "healthy".

I'm pretty sure the Cow holds natural protein but I could be wrong because I'm no expert on food really.

Prolifical ENG
06-21-2009, 06:39 PM
Pigs are consumed because out of a handful of animals, they are one that was easily domesticated along with cows, sheep, goat, chicken. You cant domesticate bears or lions. Dogs were domesticated first. After the others were domesticated, few bothered eating dog. Only on the America continent they only had 1/5 of those easy to domesticate animals and that was dogs.

For now if eating swine is bad is a different story. Im just saying why pig is so common to eat.

diggy
06-21-2009, 06:40 PM
. The connection between his poor health and diet can't be a coincidence. He's only one year older than me and he's constantly running to the doctor for something.


Oh ya, there is a big connection between what we eat and our health. Some peeps in this thread don't wanna acknowledge that.

Shame.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:40 PM
nah - i didn't tell you what i believe

if you want to include the meat of a walking pus machine into your diet, so be it -

i dare you to stop eating pork and its byproducts for 4 months
then eat it again on that 5th month

Seems like you may be religious while I'm an atheist..

I never said eating pork was healthy that wasn't my point, point was any food comes with health risks.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:42 PM
Oh ya, there is a big connection between what we eat and our health. Some peeps in this thread don't wanna acknowledge that.

Shame.

Obviously?

I eat what I like but I also keep it at a moderation and I'm pretty damn healthy.

diggy
06-21-2009, 06:42 PM
List those risks.


Pay attention:

Give examples of food in it's natural state (untampered by man) that is harmful to humans other than pig meat, IF U CAN. This goes for you too, subconscious!!!

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:45 PM
Yeah it is, vegetarians may get protein but they aint getting as much as meat eaters and the amount they get are usually lower then most people would call "healthy".


meat eaters may get more protein than they need cause they are usually people who just eat anything - if you'll eat pork, you'll eat anything a grocery store tells you is food - the meat eaters eat what vegetarians eat, plus they eat meat - and on top of that they are eating 3 or more times a day -


I'm pretty sure the Cow holds natural protein but I could be wrong because I'm no expert on food really.

how can a cow hold natural protein ?
the cow is a big strong animal - what does it eat ?

the elephant - what does it eat ?

the rhino - " "

the giraffe -

elephants,deer, live longer than dogs, lions - naturally -

Why ?

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:47 PM
List those risks.

Risks for what? Pork?

If so you got heart disease, colon cancer, high blood pressure I beleive, but that's only if you don't watch how much you eat it.

And if you meant a vegetarian diet, well seeing the shit 1st hand I could tell you it makes you weaker then usual and like i said before lack of proteins, calcium, etc.

I will agree that Vegetarians are healthier then people who eat meat all the time but again I wasn't trying to prove it wasn't.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:49 PM
Seems like you may be religious while I'm an atheist..



i'm not religious at all

I never said eating pork was healthy that wasn't my point, point was any food comes with health risks.

pork isn't meant to be a food

diggy
06-21-2009, 06:50 PM
And if you meant a vegetarian diet, well seeing the shit 1st hand I could tell you it makes you weaker then usual and like i said before lack of proteins, calcium, etc.


You said veggie diet was harmful. There is no harm in a particular plant being devoid of a certain element or vitamin you need in your body, cuz there are hundreds if not thousands of vegetable choices you could make to get the nutrition you need.

I said where is the HARM?

A veggie diet does not HARM anyone.

Do you know the definition of "harm'?

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:51 PM
meat eaters may get more protein than they need cause they are usually people who just eat anything - if you'll eat pork, you'll eat anything a grocery store tells you is food - the meat eaters eat what vegetarians eat, plus they eat meat - and on top of that they are eating 3 or more times a day -




how can a cow hold natural protein ?
the cow is a big strong animal - what does it eat ?

the elephant - what does it eat ?

the rhino - " "

the giraffe -

elephants,deer, live longer than dogs, lions - naturally -

Why ?
I see where your going with this...

But I don't think humans are animals, and we live longer then most animals because we eat both meat and greens.
List those risks.


Pay attention:

Give examples of food in it's natural state (untampered by man) that is harmful to humans other than pig meat, IF U CAN. This goes for you too, subconscious!!!
I did before, go back and look over the links I gave you.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:52 PM
And if you meant a vegetarian diet, well seeing the shit 1st hand I could tell you it makes you weaker then usual and like i said before lack of proteins, calcium, etc.


then you are dealing with vegetarians who are just doing what they think is right for them - i'm a vegetarian who eats 3 times a week - and i'll throw the average man across a street in a minute - i know martial artist that don't eat meat and eat only once a day - tell them that they are weak - lol

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:52 PM
i'm not religious at all



pork isn't meant to be a food
Well it is now isn't it?
You said veggie diet was harmful. There is no harm in a particular plant being devoid of a certain element or vitamin you need in your body, cuz there are hundreds if not thousands of vegetable choices you could make to get the nutrition you need.

I said where is the HARM?

A veggie diet does not HARM anyone.

Do you know the definition of "harm'?

Did you not read what I typed?

You get weaker I'm pretty sure making you weaker is harmful.

diggy
06-21-2009, 06:53 PM
I did before, go back and look over the links I gave you.


You did not give me examples of harmful veggie food. Read my response to that post you did.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:54 PM
then you are dealing with vegetarians who are just doing what they think is right for them - i'm a vegetarian who eats 3 times a week - and i'll throw the average man across a street in a minute - i know martial artist that don't eat meat and eat only once a day - tell them that they are weak - lol

You just said what I been saying actually.

You can be healthy regardless of what you mostly eat as long as you practice moderation.

I'm just naming health affects of just eating the food.

diggy
06-21-2009, 06:55 PM
Well it is now isn't it?


Did you not read what I typed?

You get weaker I'm pretty sure making you weaker is harmful.


Veggies low in a certain element or vitamin does not make you weaker. They just do not provide you what you need.

Refer to a dictionary for the definition of "harm" and "harmful".

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:55 PM
I see where your going with this...

But I don't think humans are animals, and we live longer then most animals because we eat both meat and greens.

I did before, go back and look over the links I gave you.

this is between the animals i named - lions don't live for 50 years

dogs don't either - but elephants and deer can live past 50 years - why -

i'm not saying that humans are animals - thats not what i'm saying -

follow the discussion man

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 06:58 PM
Well it is now isn't it?



NO - even today, its not >MEANT< to be a food -

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 06:58 PM
You did not give me examples of harmful veggie food. Read my response to that post you did.

It's not that the food actually does harm to you right away like some meats can, but it's over time that leads to health affects due to lack of protein and B-12.

And I'm not trying to avoid the question even though it may look like I am, but I don't think me and you are on the same page here.

diggy
06-21-2009, 07:00 PM
It's not that the food actually does harm to you right away like some meats can, but it's over time that leads to health affects due to lack of protein and B-12.

And I'm not trying to avoid the question even though it may look like I am, but I don't think me and you are on the same page here.


The earth is covered with many, many forms of vegetation, not just the one's you know of.

If a person does not get the nutrition from one veggie, they could try another.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:00 PM
this is between the animals i named - lions don't live for 50 years

dogs don't either - but elephants and deer can live past 50 years - why -

i'm not saying that humans are animals - thats not what i'm saying -

follow the discussion man

NO - even today, its not >MEANT< to be a food -

White Tail deer only live up to 19 years...

I understand your point though that the herbivores tend to live longer then the carnivores.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 07:01 PM
You just said what I been saying actually.




no i didn't


you wrote

Originally Posted by SubConsciousThoughts http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1604453#post1604453)

And if you meant a vegetarian diet, well seeing the shit 1st hand I could tell you it makes you weaker then usual and like i said before lack of proteins, calcium, etc.




thats not true - it makes you stronger than usual

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:01 PM
The earth is covered with many, many forms of vegetation, not just the one's you know of.

If a person does not get the nutrition from one veggie, they could try another.

But they can't eat only that can they?

Point is eating one type of food without practicing moderation could name to health affects some worse then others.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:02 PM
no i didn't


you wrote

Originally Posted by SubConsciousThoughts http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1604453#post1604453)

And if you meant a vegetarian diet, well seeing the shit 1st hand I could tell you it makes you weaker then usual and like i said before lack of proteins, calcium, etc.




thats not true - it makes you stronger than usual

Your speaking of people who are physically fit obviously I'm speaking of people who just don't eat meat.

diggy
06-21-2009, 07:02 PM
But they can't eat only that can they?

Point is eating one type of food without practicing moderation could name to health affects some worse then others.



Not all veggies have the same properties.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:04 PM
I don't know anybody who eats "one type of food" do you?

Not all veggies are the same.

We are definitely on 2 different pages here.

I was making the point that eating one type of any food could be harmful in the beginning and I been doing that ever since, I know people don't eat just one type of food but people kept saying eating mainly pork could hurt you so I decided to make the point that eating any type of 1 food can hurt you.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:06 PM
I think we can all agree that not practicing moderation could be harmful to you weather your a vegetarian or a meat eater.

Granted vegetarians have less serious health affects.

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 07:08 PM
We are definitely on 2 different pages here.

I was making the point that eating one type of any food could be harmful in the beginning and I been doing that ever since, I know people don't eat just one type of food but people kept saying eating mainly pork could hurt you so I decided to make the point that eating any type of 1 food can hurt you.


we understand your point cause its been said the same way over and over again for years - THE point is, swine is straight poison and is not food -

but to each his own and the results screams volumes

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 07:09 PM
Do you know what harmful means?

I suggest you look it up.


I'm pretty sure your eventual death is harmful. But how about fungii? You eat some of those and it poisons you. Does that fit your definition of harmful?

Or if we're going with just foods...how about blowfish? People eat those. If you eat one that was prepared the wrong way, it kills you.

Or if, we're going with just veggies...how about spicy peppes? The shit that makes it spicy, capascin is shown to cause cancer in your esophagus is you eat too much of it.

diggy
06-21-2009, 07:09 PM
Subconscious, are you suggesting that eating a parasitic, fattening, filthy piece of pork in moderation is fine?

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 07:10 PM
I think we can all agree that not practicing moderation could be harmful to you weather your a vegetarian or a meat eater.

Granted vegetarians have less serious health affects.

read - "How to Eat To Live" by Elijah Muhammad

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:10 PM
we understand your point cause its been said the same way over and over again for years - THE point is, swine is straight poison and is not food -

but to each his own and the results screams volumes

Swine is edible though, even though it's not healthy to eat all the time.

I don't think eating swine once in a while is going to drastically affect your health.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:12 PM
Subconscious, are you suggesting that eating a parasitic, fattening, filthy piece of pork in moderation is fine?
Yes, I eat pork every once in a while and I'm perfectly fine.
read - "How to Eat To Live" by Elijah Muhammad

I'll check it out.

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 07:15 PM
Eating a parasitic, fattening, filthy piece of pork in moderation is fine?

Seriously, I wouldn't even fuck with this thread if you guys seriously just got my point. My point is, that that statement, " parasitic, fattening", is completely and utterly untrue.

SubConciousThoughts...don't fuck with these dudes. Eat what you like, and like what you eat. The fucking key is moderation. Don't let them try and convince you that you are wrong with their own misconceptions. That would make their days.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:17 PM
^^^ You really think I would let a few people on an internet forum affect my diet?

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 07:19 PM
I would hope not but not all people possess that kind of mind set.

diggy
06-21-2009, 07:25 PM
Eat what you like, and like what you eat.

Oh, according to the news media, the Chinese put poisons into their milk to make it more "enriched".

Should people like to eat this?

They also put poisonous red dye on their "red meats" to make it more red and fresh looking.

Should people also like to eat this?

Do you not agree that some things are harmful and are not for human consumption?

Why do you not agree that pig flesh which is harmful in many ways and is not fit for human consumption?

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:28 PM
Oh, according to the news media, the Chinese put poisons into their milk to make it more "enriched".

Should people like to eat this?

They also put poisonous red dye on their "red meats" to make it more red and fresh looking.

Should people also like to eat this?

Do you not agree that some things are harmful and are not for human consumption?

Why do you not agree that pig flesh which is harmful in many ways is not fit for human consumption?

Moderation..

diggy
06-21-2009, 07:30 PM
Moderation..


Moderation in all things, even poisonous things?

On another note, do you apply the "moderation in all things" to all aspects of life?

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:33 PM
Moderation in all things, even poisonous things?

On another note, do you apply the "moderation in all things" to all aspects of life?

Swine is not poison, do we have to go over this again?

I apply the moderation idea to some other aspects of life including sex and watching Tv, but it's applied to my diet more then anything.

diggy
06-21-2009, 07:37 PM
Swine is not poison, do we have to go over this again?

I apply the moderation idea to some other aspects of life including sex and watching Tv, but it's applied to my diet more then anything.


The "moderation in all things" concept is wrong to me. You would not try out homosexuality would you?

All things do not need to be done in moderation. Some things are not to be done at all and are to be avoided including the consumption of pork by humans.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:40 PM
The "moderation in all things" concept is wrong to me. You would not try out homosexuality would you?

All things do not need to be done in moderation. Some things are not to be done at all and are to be avoided including the consumption of pork by humans.

Did you just interpret what I said to be "I apply it to all aspects of life" instead of "I apply it to some other aspects"?

I think you did...

And I think i could eat pork because well if it didn't kill me the 1st time I ate it then it becomes clear to me that I could have it in moderation if i want to.

diggy
06-21-2009, 07:43 PM
Did you just interpret what I said to be "I apply it to all aspects of life" instead of "I apply it to some other aspects"?

I think you did...

And I think i could eat pork because well if it didn't kill me the 1st time I ate it then it becomes clear to me that I could have it in moderation if i want to.


I was showing you how that prevailant saying is flawed. Ya, you said you apply it to sex and tv. I know.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 07:47 PM
I was showing you how that prevailant saying is flawed. Ya, you said you apply it to sex and tv. I know.

The statement is only flawed when people apply it to all things in life. Like you said some things shouldn't be done at all (Murder, Rape, etc) but I don't believe pork is one of those things.

We'll just have to agree to disagree though.

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 08:08 PM
Do you not agree that some things are harmful and are not for human consumption?

Why do you not agree that pig flesh which is harmful in many ways and is not fit for human consumption?

Are you fucking stupid? How the fuck are you gonna try and even argue any more? First off, pork is not a fucking poison. Get that straight. You're backwards in all aspects of thought if you've convinced yourself otherwise.

Second, no...really, are you stupid? You can sit here and try to argue circles around nothing but bottom line is...you've already been proven wrong. And not only that, but you still cling to this small hope that maybe you'll say something tricky enough to fuck me up. But you won't, I'm smarter than you.

Third, the fucking dude has already said to agree to disagree and yet you pester these idiotic, esoterical respones like you're a fucking sage. You're not. You're some dude on an internet forum.

diggy
06-21-2009, 08:23 PM
Are you fucking stupid? How the fuck are you gonna try and even argue any more? First off, pork is not a fucking poison. Get that straight. You're backwards in all aspects of thought if you've convinced yourself otherwise.

Second, no...really, are you stupid? You can sit here and try to argue circles around nothing but bottom line is...you've already been proven wrong. And not only that, but you still cling to this small hope that maybe you'll say something tricky enough to fuck me up. But you won't, I'm smarter than you.

Third, the fucking dude has already said to agree to disagree and yet you pester these idiotic, esoterical respones like you're a fucking sage. You're not. You're some dude on an internet forum.


Where in my post did I say pork is poison? Please show me that quote.

You use insults. Perhaps it's because your argument alone is not strong enough to defeat mine.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 08:32 PM
Where in my post did I say pork is poison? Please show me that quote.

You use insults. Perhaps it's because your argument alone is not strong enough to defeat mine.

Moderation in all things, even poisonous things?

On another note, do you apply the "moderation in all things" to all aspects of life?

...

diggy
06-21-2009, 08:35 PM
...


The poisonous things was refering to the Chinese putting poisons on their red meat to make it more red.

Where did I use the word poison for pork?

Please show me if you could.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 08:48 PM
The poisonous things was refering to the Chinese putting poisons on their red meat to make it more red.

Where did I use the word poison for pork?

Please show me if you could.

You said we shouldn't use moderation with "poisonous" things and said we shouldn't use it for pork so you kinda implied it.

But your not the one who directly called it poison someone else did.

AcidPhosphate69
06-21-2009, 08:49 PM
Is it not common sense that pig meat is unhealthy for human consumption?

You may not have used the exact term poison but you did.

Everybody that's read this far knows you're wrong. I use insults because your style of back-peddling and using petty wording tricks to confuse or deter somebody from sticking with it enough is disgusting to me.

This is a discussion, not a game of chess. You can't "beat" somebody into agreeing. Go outside.

This thread is dead. Find another to spout your rhetoric.

diggy
06-21-2009, 08:55 PM
You may not have used the exact term poison but you did.

Everybody that's read this far knows you're wrong. I use insults because your style of back-peddling and using petty wording tricks to confuse or deter somebody from sticking with it enough is disgusting to me.

This is a discussion, not a game of chess. You can't "beat" somebody into agreeing. Go outside.

This thread is dead. Find another to spout your rhetoric.

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Funny how some of you i argue with view my style as using word tricks. I don't see it that way. I just state things the way I see it.




You said we shouldn't use moderation with "poisonous" things and said we shouldn't use it for pork so you kinda implied it.

But your not the one who directly called it poison someone else did.


Thank you.

That's better.

Charles Barry
06-21-2009, 09:29 PM
The swine eaters are getting hostile.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 09:45 PM
The swine eaters are getting hostile.

Plural?

I don't see anyone else getting hostile....

LORD NOSE
06-21-2009, 10:05 PM
^^^ You really think I would let a few people on an internet forum affect my diet?


allot of peoples diet have been affected by people on an internet forum - if you learn something of value on the internet, would you not apply it to your life and walk ?


Subconscious, are you suggesting that eating a parasitic, fattening, filthy piece of pork in moderation is fine?

Moderation..

ST - is the answer yes ?




The "moderation in all things" concept is wrong to me. You would not try out homosexuality would you?

All things do not need to be done in moderation. Some things are not to be done at all and are to be avoided including the consumption of pork by humans.




Did you just interpret what I said to be "I apply it to all aspects of life" instead of "I apply it to some other aspects"?

I think you did...

And I think i could eat pork because well if it didn't kill me the 1st time I ate it then it becomes clear to me that I could have it in moderation if i want to.



allot of people got shot for the first time and did not die - should they get shot in moderation ?






You may not have used the exact term poison but you did.

Everybody that's read this far knows you're wrong. I use insults because your style of back-peddling and using petty wording tricks to confuse or deter somebody from sticking with it enough is disgusting to me.

This is a discussion, not a game of chess. You can't "beat" somebody into agreeing. Go outside.

This thread is dead. Find another to spout your rhetoric.


i said that pork is poison - cause that's what it is

relax man - do you suffer from hyper tension ?

the consumption of pork is known to cause this



The swine eaters are getting hostile.


lol - cause the consumption of pork is known to cause this











" parasitic, fattening", is completely and utterly untrue.



ok - lets say that pork is not parasitic - are you standing by your words in saying that pork is not fattening ?





Are you fucking stupid? How the fuck are you gonna try and even argue any more? First off, pork is not a fucking poison.

Second, no...really, are you stupid?


why are you so angry and frustrated ?
could it be due to your diet of high blood pressure causing swine sandwiches ?

eating pork doesn't aid in one having high blood pressure huh




You can sit here and try to argue circles around nothing but bottom line is...you've already been proven wrong.



wrong - we have not been proven wrong - its a fact that we have not been proven wrong



you pester these idiotic, esoterical respones like you're a fucking sage. You're not. You're some dude on an internet forum.

the pig is a mean animal
are you not some dude on an internet forum ?

should we listen and learn from the cook ?

SubConsciousThoughts
06-21-2009, 10:37 PM
allot of peoples diet have been affected by people on an internet forum - if you learn something of value on the internet, would you not apply it to your life and walk ?


ST - is the answer yes ?


allot of people got shot for the first time and did not die - should they get shot in moderation ?

i said that pork is poison - cause that's what it is

relax man - do you suffer from hyper tension ?

the consumption of pork is known to cause this

lol - cause the consumption of pork is known to cause this



ok - lets say that pork is not parasitic - are you standing by your words in saying that pork is not fattening ?



why are you so angry and frustrated ?
could it be due to your diet of high blood pressure causing swine sandwiches ?

eating pork doesn't aid in one having high blood pressure huh


wrong - we have not been proven wrong - its a fact that we have not been proven wrong





the pig is a mean animal
are you not some dude on an internet forum ?

should we listen and learn from the cook ?

I thought we were done? Oh well

Anyways I knew pork was bad for your health if you ate it enough before this.

Moderation isn't to be applied for everything like I said.

And I don't think I got mad because you questioned my diet, I'm a very peaceful person.

Ya think this is over now? It's getting boring.

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 08:41 AM
I thought we were done? Oh well

Anyways I knew pork was bad for your health if you ate it enough before this.

Moderation isn't to be applied for everything like I said.

And I don't think I got mad because you questioned my diet, I'm a very peaceful person.

Ya think this is over now? It's getting boring.


you are done - well done lol

you go on about moderation, we asked a question -

eating filth in moderation is ok ?

i noticed that you didn't get angry and that you were respectful and peaceful the whole time - you are not a big swine eater, you don't eat it all the time - its effects are small in you

its over when you stop posting - we are not forcing you to reply

Peace man

RALPH WIGGUM
06-22-2009, 10:52 AM
Well I don't know if pig is poison, but I love my bacon too much to stop. And I still don't see why I should stop, I can see clear reasons to stop drinking and smoking, but not to stop eating pig.
And I got no hyper-tension.

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 11:11 AM
Well I don't know if pig is poison, but I love my bacon too much to stop. And I still don't see why I should stop, I can see clear reasons to stop drinking and smoking, but not to stop eating pig.
And I got no hyper-tension.


http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15021



pork is salty even when you don't season it with salt


reason is - because the pig has little to no sweat glands and cannot get rid of the toxins in its system - this is why it rolls around in the mud - to cool itself off - we all know what sweat taste like - if you played a hard game of ball - or ran track and sweated some of it got in your mouth -


that worm you mentioned is very real - its called the trichina worm -











Definition of Trichina spiralis

Trichina spiralis: is a parasitic worm that lives in the intestines and causes a serious illness known as trichinosis.

The eggs usually enter the body via raw or undercooked pork, sausage or bear meat. In the intestines, the eggs hatch, mature, and migrate to other parts of the body through the bloodstream and the lymphatic system.

AcidPhosphate69
06-22-2009, 11:19 AM
said that pork is poison - cause that's what it is

relax man - do you suffer from hyper tension ?

the consumption of pork is known to cause this



Actually nah, I personally don't eat a lot of pork. I'm more a steak kind of guy. I just find you and what you're trying to state as fact completely ridiculous.

Let me outline how you're wrong, one more time.

First, pig is not poisonous. Consuming ANY raw meat can be harmful to you. That is a fact which you cannot dispute. I'm pretty sure science has my back on this one.

Second, pork is not more fattening than other meats. In fact, pork (with the fat trimmed) is leaner than a comparable cut of meat from other domesticated animals. Again, look it up.

Third, you assume things. Now, when trying to make a point...making assumptions like yours (ie; I'm a pork eater so that's what I think you're stupid) will sometimes help your point. The only problem is, that when you try that against somebody who actually does know more about the cooking and preparation and proper food safety measures (health codes, baby)...it doesn't work.

Sunny Winters, you are a fool. You always will be a fool. You have let others dictate to you untruths about something and you, following, are trying to do the same.

You have absolutely NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS for anything you are saying. I have already stated the hows and the whys.

I sincerely encourage you to look this stuff up for yourself before trying to convince me otherwise.

Now, let me guess...you're going to quote me and answer with a question that's loosely based on me eating too much pork. Listen, I know your tricks...you will not win this that way.

I dare you to provide me with sufficient and credible evidence to contradict me on these three main points;

1. Pork is not poisonous
2. Cooking pork to at least 140-145 degrees renders the meat safe for consumption
3. That when a cut of pork that is properly trimmed is leaner than the same style cut of beef

Prove me wrong and I dunno...I'll give you rep or whatever it is you guys crave around here.

RALPH WIGGUM
06-22-2009, 11:25 AM
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15021



pork is salty even when you don't season it with salt


reason is - because the pig has little to no sweat glands and cannot get rid of the toxins in its system - this is why it rolls around in the mud - to cool itself off - we all know what sweat taste like - if you played a hard game of ball - or ran track and sweated some of it got in your mouth -


that worm you mentioned is very real - its called the trichina worm -











Definition of Trichina spiralis

Trichina spiralis: is a parasitic worm that lives in the intestines and causes a serious illness known as trichinosis.

The eggs usually enter the body via raw or undercooked pork, sausage or bear meat. In the intestines, the eggs hatch, mature, and migrate to other parts of the body through the bloodstream and the lymphatic system.

But if its cooked enough it can't be dangerous, I mean I never got sick eating pork, Im careful never to eat undercooked pork, cause I know that'll get you sick.
Dogs roll around in mud too.
Anyway, if it truly is poison, I don't know if I could bring myself to stop eating ham, bacon and sausage unless if it really got me sick. I mean, why shouldn't I eat poison, if its good and it has no effect on me?

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 11:31 AM
Actually nah, I personally don't eat a lot of pork. I'm more a steak kind of guy. I just find you and what you're trying to state as fact completely ridiculous.

Let me outline how you're wrong, one more time.

First, pig is not poisonous. Consuming ANY raw meat can be harmful to you. That is a fact which you cannot dispute. I'm pretty sure science has my back on this one.

Second, pork is not more fattening than other meats. In fact, pork (with the fat trimmed) is leaner than a comparable cut of meat from other domesticated animals. Again, look it up.

Third, you assume things. Now, when trying to make a point...making assumptions like yours (ie; I'm a pork eater so that's what I think you're stupid) will sometimes help your point. The only problem is, that when you try that against somebody who actually does know more about the cooking and preparation and proper food safety measures (health codes, baby)...it doesn't work.

Sunny Winters, you are a fool. You always will be a fool. You have let others dictate to you untruths about something and you, following, are trying to do the same.

You have absolutely NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS for anything you are saying. I have already stated the hows and the whys.

I sincerely encourage you to look this stuff up for yourself before trying to convince me otherwise.

Now, let me guess...you're going to quote me and answer with a question that's loosely based on me eating too much pork. Listen, I know your tricks...you will not win this that way.

I dare you to provide me with sufficient and credible evidence to contradict me on these three main points;

1. Pork is not poisonous
2. Cooking pork to at least 140-145 degrees renders the meat safe for consumption
3. That when a cut of pork that is properly trimmed is leaner than the same style cut of beef

Prove me wrong and I dunno...I'll give you rep or whatever it is you guys crave around here.



lol - you are 1000% Wrong about everything you are saying

i don't have to prove you wrong, you did that already when you started
replying here

you have not provided any proof to refute what we are saying -

the "i'm a cook, i know what i'm talking about" stance isn't gonna work here



again - try this out



stop eating pork and its byproducts for 4 months, then on the 5th month go and have you a thick juicy pork chop - I Dare You - lol



and - if you don't start showing some respect to me and others, your words here will be deleted


Peace to you on your journey

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 11:35 AM
But if its cooked enough it can't be dangerous,

i gave you a link to another thread that explains to us what we need to know
concerning this

I mean I never got sick eating pork, Im careful never to eat undercooked pork, cause I know that'll get you sick.

how do you know you never got sick eating pork ?



Dogs roll around in mud too.

i wouldn't eat dog either

Anyway, if it truly is poison, I don't know if I could bring myself to stop eating ham, bacon and sausage unless if it really got me sick. I mean, why shouldn't I eat poison, if its good and it has no effect on me?


we make the choices we feel are best for us - sometimes we take risk -

reread what you wrote and think about it

RALPH WIGGUM
06-22-2009, 11:38 AM
again - try this out



stop eating pork and its byproducts for 4 months, then on the 5th month go and have you a thick juicy pork chop - I Dare You - lol


I might try that.

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 11:40 AM
I might try that.


please do


do you know what pork byproducts are though ?

Luza
06-22-2009, 11:42 AM
lol - you are 1000% Wrong about everything you are saying

i don't have to prove you wrong, you did that already when you started
replying here

actually he has a point there. i mean, if you have religious reasons for not eating pork, you should hang on to it. but for a person not belonging to one of these religions, there aren't acutally any scientific justified reasons for not eating properly prepared pork.

RALPH WIGGUM
06-22-2009, 11:46 AM
please do


do you know what pork byproducts are though ?

Yeah stuff with gelatin, candies, I'll be careful, but I don't know know when Im gon do it though cause I eat with my family and everything so I don't really choose what I eat, but that really sound like a good experience, I'll definitely try it.

AcidPhosphate69
06-22-2009, 12:01 PM
Alright, for your viewing pleasure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork

Pork with its fat trimmed is leaner than most domesticated animals. Otherwise, it is high in cholesterol (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Cholesterol) and saturated fat (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Saturated_fat), and excessive consumption can lead to gallstones (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Gallstones) and obesity (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Obesity)

I was half right on that one, I'll concede you that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis


Cooking meat (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Meat) products to an internal temperature of 165 F (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Fahrenheit) (74 C (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Celsius)) for a minimum of 15 seconds.
Cooking pork (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Pork) to a uniform internal temperature of at least 144 F (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Fahrenheit) (62.2 C (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Celsius)), per USDA Title 9 section 318.10. It is prudent to use a margin of error to allow for variation in internal temperature and error in the thermometer.
Freezing pork (http://www.wutang-corp.com/wiki/Pork) less than 6 inches thick for 20 days at 5 F (−15 C) or three days at −4 F (−20 C) kills larval worms.


Wait...what did I already tell you? Oh, yeah...the same shit. I guess you just need to see things in pretty bullet points.

You should start eating pork. I mean, by your logic...they're smart animals so eating it will also make you smart right? I mean, that follows your logic pretty well, so maybe that might help.

Seriously, everbody here that is taking this guy seriously needs to look at the facts before radically altering you diet. Again, everything in moderation is a fairly safe philosophy.

froth
06-22-2009, 12:05 PM
i love bacon on anything

people dont eat pork bc that is all a by-product of old writings that basically had to do with preventing disease and spoiling of meat. there have been epidemics (like the one now) among swine populations, so the advice old texts such as the bible give abou the pigs being unclean makes perfect sens...as PRACTICAL ADVICE when youre running around the desert, not as some kind of spiritual bs about pigs. almost all laws credited to god were done so to give a moral authority. and laws are also created when the need arises. lots of people were getting sick eating pork in the desert so moses through inspiration/whatever you want to believe, claimed god said it was bad to eat. the egyptians didnt eat pork as well, but from all CREDIBLE anthropological sources, this was due to the fact that they (like many others) were unable to domesticate it, along with other species such as the ibex

this was primarily due to the fact that pigs require an enourmous amount of feed,but the egyptians didnt need to bother with it, and were eating healthier. lots of birds and fowl

so in short, anytime you eat an animal, from sushi to a pork chop, there is some risk of something, heck even plants. but most people, myself included, dont really give a shit, bc bacon tastes so good that you would have to hate yourself not to eat it. or hate life, have a restrictive view on spitiuality

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 12:32 PM
actually he has a point there. i mean, if you have religious reasons for not eating pork, you should hang on to it. but for a person not belonging to one of these religions, there aren't acutally any scientific justified reasons for not eating properly prepared pork.

are yall actually reading whats being posted ?


i said, "i'm not religious at all"

did yall not see the link i posted to the other thread ?

lol - john from the enemy boards was right

AcidPhosphate69
06-22-2009, 12:36 PM
Are you reading what's posted here? Every time I post something that completely disproves what you're trying to state as fact, you avoid it.

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 12:40 PM
Alright, for your viewing pleasure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork

Quote:
Pork with its fat trimmed is leaner than most domesticated animals. Otherwise, it is high in cholesterol (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Cholesterol) and saturated fat (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Saturated_fat), and excessive consumption can lead to gallstones (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Gallstones) and obesity (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Obesity)
I was half right on that one, I'll concede you that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis

Quote:
Cooking meat (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Meat) products to an internal temperature of 165 F (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Fahrenheit) (74 C (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Celsius)) for a minimum of 15 seconds.
Cooking pork (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Pork) to a uniform internal temperature of at least 144 F (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Fahrenheit) (62.2 C (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Celsius)), per USDA Title 9 section 318.10. It is prudent to use a margin of error to allow for variation in internal temperature and error in the thermometer.
Freezing pork (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Pork) less than 6 inches thick for 20 days at 5 F (−15 C) or three days at −4 F (−20 C) kills larval worms.
Wait...what did I already tell you? Oh, yeah...the same shit. I guess you just need to see things in pretty bullet points.

You should start eating pork. I mean, by your logic...they're smart animals so eating it will also make you smart right? I mean, that follows your logic pretty well, so maybe that might help.

Seriously, everbody here that is taking this guy seriously needs to look at the facts before radically altering you diet. Again, everything in moderation is a fairly safe philosophy.


this is beautiful - very beautiful -
now we are making some progress -




Cooking meat (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Meat) products to an internal temperature of 165 F (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Fahrenheit) (74 C (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Celsius)) for a minimum of 15 seconds.
Cooking pork (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Pork) to a uniform internal temperature of at least 144 F (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Fahrenheit) (62.2 C (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Celsius)), per USDA Title 9 section 318.10. It is prudent to use a margin of error to allow for variation in internal temperature and error in the thermometer.
Freezing pork (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Pork) less than 6 inches thick for 20 days at 5 F (−15 C) or three days at −4 F (−20 C) kills larval worms. the scientist are almost there also - yes they are making progress
but what they are not telling you that you cannot kill the trichina worm with this method - if they did, allot of business would shut down - big business pays whoever they need to to stay in business -


so we do agree that there are worms and larvae in the meat that need to be KILLED


lets all think for a few minutes





with this


Pork with its fat trimmed is leaner than most domesticated animals. Otherwise, it is high in cholesterol (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Cholesterol) and saturated fat (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Saturated_fat), and excessive consumption can lead to gallstones (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Gallstones) and obesity (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/../wiki/Obesity)most people do not trim the fat, they use it, they eat it

there is no such thing as being half right -

are you still telling us that pork is not a fattening, parasitic piece of garbage ?


your own research proves me correct - but you still deny it - Why Is That ?

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 12:42 PM
Are you reading what's posted here? Every time I post something that completely disproves what you're trying to state as fact, you avoid it.

relax man -

nothing you have posted disproves anything i wrote

it proves i'm correct

diggy
06-22-2009, 01:02 PM
...Anyway, if it truly is poison, I don't know if I could bring myself to stop eating ham, bacon and sausage unless if it really got me sick. I mean, why shouldn't I eat poison, if its good and it has no effect on me?


The underlined statement looks like a delusional one. If something is poisonous, it would have an effect on one who ingests it. There is no such thing as ingesting a poison that has no effect on a person's body, except in fictional stories.

Rode Block
06-22-2009, 01:17 PM
I love pork.

Chile Verde, Carnitas, Tacos Al Pastor, Pork Chops, Bacon... Everytime I got to Fat Burger I make sure they throw in bacon on my Triple King Cheeseburger.

I eat that shit all the time because it taste good. I don't give a fuck how dirty a pig is before it's cleaned and cooked properly...And the risks aren't even that bad. You can die from eating beef and chicken if it ain't cooked properly...Why single pork out? E Coli and Mad Cow is found in chicken and beef.

I guess we should all just become vegetarians and miss out on the best foods in the world because there's a SMALL chance it can harm us.

RALPH WIGGUM
06-22-2009, 01:47 PM
I love pork.

Chile Verde, Carnitas, Tacos Al Pastor, Pork Chops, Bacon... Everytime I got to Fat Burger I make sure they throw in bacon on my Triple King Cheeseburger.

I eat that shit all the time because it taste good. I don't give a fuck how dirty a pig is before it's cleaned and cooked properly...And the risks aren't even that bad. You can die from eating beef and chicken if it ain't cooked properly...Why single pork out? E Coli and Mad Cow is found in chicken and beef.

I guess we should all just become vegetarians and miss out on the best foods in the world because there's a SMALL chance it can harm us.

Actually pork is the only meat thats really dangerous if not cooked properly.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-22-2009, 02:01 PM
you are done - well done lol

you go on about moderation, we asked a question -

eating filth in moderation is ok ?

i noticed that you didn't get angry and that you were respectful and peaceful the whole time - you are not a big swine eater, you don't eat it all the time - its effects are small in you

its over when you stop posting - we are not forcing you to reply

Peace man

No reason to get mad over this, after all it's not like I care too much about what other people think of my diet as long as I'm healthy I'm fine with it.

But peace as far as this topic is concerned.

SubConsciousThoughts
06-22-2009, 02:02 PM
Actually pork is the only meat thats really dangerous if not cooked properly.

There's other foods that are dangerous when not cooked properly but I'm not sure of you would classify them as "meats".

LORD NOSE
06-22-2009, 04:48 PM
the swines flesh is very different from other meats - the Toxins Stay in the Flesh -

we have have given yall links, and somethings to think about, and a program for yall to test out on yourselves -

Think -

the toxins stay in the pigs flesh - Why ?

pork is naturally salty - why ?

why is there a sewage line on the leg and hoof of the pig ?

why does the pig make that oink noise ?


the answers are provided in this thread and in The War on Swine thread -


we have warned yall and provided information to yall for you to do the knowledge for yourself if you care -

EAGLE EYE
06-22-2009, 08:09 PM
there is a War on Swine thread?

Dr. Simon Hurt
06-22-2009, 08:26 PM
http://www.addictioncontrolconsultations.com/FLU/images/cartoons/22-5/swine-war.jpg

J-Cee
06-22-2009, 11:43 PM
fuck it..it taste good..who gives a fuck.

Face of the Golden Falcon
06-23-2009, 12:25 AM
^
lmao...obviously not you.

FUCK IT...IT *TASTES* GOOD...WHO GIVES A FUCK

This could be the slogan for modern society...

:{

SHEM HETEP

*TASTES* can also be substituted with the following words: FEELS, LOOKS ETC.

spiggity_ace
06-23-2009, 02:19 AM
^ thats the truth.

J-Cee
06-23-2009, 04:17 AM
mufucka, aussies, we eat kangaroos,crocodiles n shit..we don't gotta worry bout this.
more things to worry bout

actually he has a point there. i mean, if you have religious reasons for not eating pork, you should hang on to it. but for a person not belonging to one of these religions, there aren't acutally any scientific justified reasons for not eating properly prepared pork.

exactly right..is someone gonna tell me theres a conspiracy theory why u shouldnt eat pork aswell?,........if i eat it will it put a tracking device in me?will it give me aids...


lol..please

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs086.snc1/4605_88567882363_504177363_1866540_7272169_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs106.snc1/4605_88567892363_504177363_1866541_7864160_n.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs086.snc1/4605_88568027363_504177363_1866566_6085347_n.jpg

LORD NOSE
06-23-2009, 10:47 AM
yes - it smells horrid when its cooking - its a very very bad smell - and when you get it out of your system, you will not be able to take the smell of it -

Black Man
06-23-2009, 12:54 PM
mufucka, aussies, we eat kangaroos,crocodiles n shit..we don't gotta worry bout this.
more things to worry bout



Quote:
Originally Posted by Luza http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1604885#post1604885)
actually he has a point there. i mean, if you have religious reasons for not eating pork, you should hang on to it. but for a person not belonging to one of these religions, there aren't acutally any scientific justified reasons for not eating properly prepared pork.

exactly right..is someone gonna tell me theres a conspiracy theory why u shouldnt eat pork aswell?,........if i eat it will it put a tracking device in me?will it give me aids...


lol..please


The scientific facts about pork is out of the bag and it's been out of the bag for some time now.

As I've said before, when it comes to SCIENCE, people pick and choose what they want to accept regardless of whom or what.

The 85% are poison animal eaters and slaves of a mental death and power so they don't have the mental power to change their thoughts which determines their actions....because they're slaves to the 10% teaching. The 85% are easily lead in the wrong direction and hard to be lead in the right direction, so SCIENTIFIC PROOF isn't going to change what they do.

drippie k
06-23-2009, 01:24 PM
oh please...muslims and so many other ancient religions advised not to eat pork because they didn't prepare it well enough...sure, if you eat it undercooked you can get sick, just like any other undercooked meat...if eating pork was actually bad for you, you'd hear all kinds of stories about people getting sick from eating pork (not the fucking swine flu which didnt even come from a fucking pig)...spain is probably the most ham-consuming country and i've eaten all kinds of different hams almost on a daily basis just like any other spaniard and there is NOTHING wrong with eating it..in fact, spain has one of the most healthy diets in the world

if you wont eat it because of your religion, thats fine and dandy, more power to ya...but to think eating pork is some kind of "consipiracy to lead the 85% astray (i.e. Black Man)" than you need to get your .........................

Black Man
06-23-2009, 02:33 PM
oh please...muslims and so many other ancient religions advised not to eat pork because they didn't prepare it well enough...sure, if you eat it undercooked you can get sick, just like any other undercooked meat...if eating pork was actually bad for you, you'd hear all kinds of stories about people getting sick from eating pork (not the fucking swine flu which didnt even come from a fucking pig)...spain is probably the most ham-consuming country and i've eaten all kinds of different hams almost on a daily basis just like any other spaniard and there is NOTHING wrong with eating it..in fact, spain has one of the most healthy diets in the world

if you wont eat it because of your religion, thats fine and dandy, more power to ya...but to think eating pork is some kind of "consipiracy to lead the 85% astray (i.e. Black Man)" than you need to get your head out of your ass

Like I said, regardless of what the SCIENTIFIC FACTS state, people are going to pick and choose what they want to ACCEPT.

That's a reason why people point to religion and use words like 'conspiracy' and use that as their foundation for their argument whether they're part of that religious body or not. It's also a deversion from the actual SCIENTFIC FACTS.

if eating pork was actually bad for you, you'd hear all kinds of stories about people getting sick from eating pork

Conventional medicine is a collection of
unproven prescriptions the results of which,
Taken collectively are more fatal than useful to mankind.

-Napoleon Bonaparte

If people actually wanted to know the science with pork and all of it's various names then they would do some research, but they don't. That's why they don't know what the scientific community has discovered/learned when it comes to this particular animal.

Poison animal eaters......:r

drippie k
06-23-2009, 08:29 PM
ok bro, again, how many people have you known or heard about ANYWHERE at ANY TIME at ANY PLACE whether it be the news, internet, whatever that have gotten sick from eating well-prepared pork in any of its various forms?

and i never said anything about no conspiracy bullshit, like i said, if you do it to follow your religious practice, that's a-ok...but to mark pork or ham as fucking poison is just ridiculous....and WHAT "scientific facts" state that it is unhealthy to eat?? maybe if thats ALL you eat it would be but you know the saying "too much of anything is bad for you"

It contains high levels of some essential B vitamins (http://www.associatedcontent.com/theme/861/vitamins.html) like B6, B12, niacin, thiamine, and riboflavin. In addition to the B vitamins, pork also contains high amounts of other nutrients, providing you with iron, magnesium, phosphorus, potassium, and zinc. And let's not forget the protein. A three ounce portion of pork provides nearly half of the daily requirements for protein.

But is it worth it? Is it worth the risk?

Pigs have a reputation of being dirty animals. Pigs are susceptible to infection by a parasite called Trichinella that lives in the muscles. This poisoning for this parasite is what causes trichinosis, the biggest risk of eating pork

So again, is it worth the risk?

The truth is, in the past decade food borne illness related to pork has decreased dramatically. Last year only 7% of all food borne illness cases reported were related to pork. And trichinosis? The Center for Disease (http://www.associatedcontent.com/theme/1463/disease.html) Control reported that between 1997 and 2001 there was an average of only 12 cases of trichinosis per year reported. There are two main reasons for the decreases in cases of illness related to pork.

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The other factor is changes in legislation. Trichinella is only found in carnivorous animals. It is now illegal for raw meat products to be used in feeding pigs. Without ingesting meat that has been infected with trichinella, the pigs will not infected.

With the increase in knowledge, and better laws controlling the raising of pigs, pork is now a safe choice for a nutritious choice in your diet.


http://marketuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jamon_iberico.jpg

http://www.eatcatalunya.com/images/stories/pernill.gif

mm-mmmmm...iberian ham is the best

LORD NOSE
06-23-2009, 09:13 PM
http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10222/Food.jpg

diggy
06-23-2009, 09:55 PM
oh please...muslims and so many other ancient religions advised not to eat pork because they didn't prepare it well enough...


The first time I heard of this argument was on this site. I don't know where you guys are getting your info on why some scriptures say not to eat pork.

Your explanation of why these text say not to eat pork seems like conjecture and guesswork to me.

There is no basis in my opinion to the argument that the people of old did not cook their pork well, therefore it was made forbidden. None of you were there at that time, so you don't know your conjecture to be a fact!!!

SubConsciousThoughts
06-23-2009, 09:59 PM
By how many pages this thread is and how many debates it caused you would think this thread was about which religion w3as right or if God exists or not, but no it's about pork...

LORD NOSE
06-23-2009, 10:24 PM
The first time I heard of this argument was on this site. I don't know where you guys are getting your info on why some scriptures say not to eat pork.

Your explanation of why these text say not to eat pork seems like conjecture and guesswork to me.

There is no basis in my opinion to the argument that the people of old did not cook their pork well, therefore it was made forbidden. None of you were there at that time, so you don't know your conjecture to be a fact!!!

they can construct the numeral system and build great buildings of beautiful art, but they just couldn't find a way to cook pork right huh - John says that the nitrates in the meat makes its eaters....stupid....

J-Cee
06-23-2009, 11:44 PM
ok bro, again, how many people have you known or heard about ANYWHERE at ANY TIME at ANY PLACE whether it be the news, internet, whatever that have gotten sick from eating well-prepared pork in any of its various forms?

and i never said anything about no conspiracy bullshit, like i said, if you do it to follow your religious practice, that's a-ok...but to mark pork or ham as fucking poison is just ridiculous....and WHAT "scientific facts" state that it is unhealthy to eat?? maybe if thats ALL you eat it would be but you know the saying "too much of anything is bad for you"





http://marketuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jamon_iberico.jpg

http://www.eatcatalunya.com/images/stories/pernill.gif

mm-mmmmm...iberian ham is the best

co-sign..i find some peoples responses and arguments to not eat pork here are humorous and ridiculous.

Rode Block
06-24-2009, 12:42 AM
Why have half the posts in this thread been deleted?

The fuck?

EAGLE EYE
06-24-2009, 12:53 AM
Because the nitrates in this thread made its contributors stupid...

Rode Block
06-24-2009, 12:59 AM
LMFAO
AU7_Ar9C_iI

I wonder if that pig is smarter than the mods who run this section...

Luza
06-24-2009, 02:59 AM
http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10222/Food.jpg

didn't you say, that your view on pork was not influenced by any religious beliefs?


yes, iberian ham is the best with italian!

Mumm Ra
06-24-2009, 03:15 AM
these pork threads have been popping up forever, since I been here for several years anyway
and everytime they do there's a group of people who act like they are proud to eat their swine
or as if it's gonna make non-pork eaters angry or something
never got that one, but it never fails

drippie k
06-24-2009, 03:37 AM
The first time I heard of this argument was on this site. I don't know where you guys are getting your info on why some scriptures say not to eat pork.

Your explanation of why these text say not to eat pork seems like conjecture and guesswork to me.

There is no basis in my opinion to the argument that the people of old did not cook their pork well, therefore it was made forbidden. None of you were there at that time, so you don't know your conjecture to be a fact!!!
you weren't there either so how do you know it isn't true?

there are certain ways to eat pork and be healthy about, read the shit i quoted

Compulsion
06-24-2009, 03:41 AM
these pork threads have been popping up forever, since I been here for several years anyway
and everytime they do there's a group of people who act like they are proud to eat their swine
or as if it's gonna make non-pork eaters angry or something
never got that one, but it never fails

Probably just balancing out the group that are proud of not eating swine like it means something to the people who do.

Black Man
06-24-2009, 08:40 AM
ok bro, again, how many people have you known or heard about ANYWHERE at ANY TIME at ANY PLACE whether it be the news, internet, whatever that have gotten sick from eating well-prepared pork in any of its various forms?

HOW MANY? TOO MANY TO COUNT.

and i never said anything about no conspiracy bullshit,

YOU'RE A LIAR.

Originally Posted by drippie k http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1605988#post1605988) but to think eating pork is some kind of "consipiracy to lead the 85% astray (i.e. Black Man)" than you need to get your head out of your ass

like i said, if you do it to follow your religious practice, that's a-ok...but to mark pork or ham as fucking poison is just ridiculous....and WHAT "scientific facts" state that it is unhealthy to eat?? maybe if thats ALL you eat it would be but you know the saying "too much of anything is bad for you"

poison animal eater....:r

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 02:26 PM
didn't you say, that your view on pork was not influenced by any religious beliefs?



no - i didn't say that -

i said that i'm not religious

Dr. Simon Hurt
06-24-2009, 03:56 PM
^^^so if you're not religious, why would you be influenced by religion in making a decision? or is this too esoteric for me?

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 04:02 PM
^^^so if you're not religious, why would you be influenced by religion in making a decision? or is this too esoteric for me?


why would i be ?

i never said that i was influenced by religion to not eat pork

you eat pork ?

Luza
06-24-2009, 04:04 PM
why would i be ?

i never said that i was influenced by religion to not eat pork



then why did you use religious quotations?
it does not make any sense to use arguments, you do not even believe in yourself....

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 04:14 PM
then why did you use religious quotations?
it does not make any sense to use arguments, you do not even believe in yourself....



people have called me a christian religious fanatic just cause i quoted something written in the bible


people have called me a muslim religious fanatic just cause i quoted something written in the quaran

people have called me a dr. york following, religious fanatic just cause i quoted something written in the tablets

people have called me an atheist science fanatic just cause i quoted something that the scientific community embraces

people assume, guess,and misunderstand because they are not trying to know - their ledge

i never said that i didn't believe whats written in what i wrote - i only said that i'm not religious

it is posted for those who hold so dearly onto those scriptures, but never read those scriptures - and those who just want to know whats written in the scriptures -

froth
06-24-2009, 04:26 PM
pork tastes good

Dr. Simon Hurt
06-24-2009, 04:34 PM
why would i be ?

i never said that i was influenced by religion to not eat pork

you eat pork ?

no, don't eat pork or red meat, or fried chicken or fish for health reasons.
kevlaar 7 summed it up very well.

JASPER
06-24-2009, 04:42 PM
the pig was made to eat the dead
So are maggots and they're very nutritious.

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 04:53 PM
So are maggots and they're very nutritious.


i heard -

good things can be found in filth -

like 100 dollars in the middle of wet do do - i'd pick it out and clean it off - then spend it - but if i gotta eat the do do off of it to get that 100 dollars, i pass

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 04:55 PM
no, don't eat pork or red meat, or fried chicken or fish for health reasons.
kevlaar 7 summed it up very well.


do you care to build on whats going on with you ?

allot of people feel that we have to eat meat in order to be healthy

JASPER
06-24-2009, 05:22 PM
i heard -

good things can be found in filth -

like 100 dollars in the middle of wet do do - i'd pick it out and clean it off - then spend it - but if i gotta eat the do do off of it to get that 100 dollars, i pass
You wouldn't fry that poop in some olive oil and add a sprig of parsley?

Me neither, but I would eat maggots, pork or anything prepared right.

What's so bad about pig meat any way?

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 05:32 PM
What's so bad about pig meat any way?

start at the beginning of this thread and hear us out

also check the link i provided in this thread - it leads to an older thread where we discussed this -

Dr. Simon Hurt
06-24-2009, 05:44 PM
do you care to build on whats going on with you ?

allot of people feel that we have to eat meat in order to be healthy

i eat chicken and fish, i just grill it
since abstaining from red meat and pork i feel better, my digestion is better, etc. it's tempting though, and i won't say i'll never eat a hamburger again, but pork...as i got older it fucked with my stomach pretty much every time i ate sausage or bacon for whatever reason so i stopped eating it.

JASPER
06-24-2009, 05:57 PM
start at the beginning of this thread and hear us out

also check the link i provided in this thread - it leads to an older thread where we discussed this -
Finally found it. Read a few post in that thread, but I never felt sick or anything from eating pig meat. It tastes good and I see no reason not to eat it, unless you're some kind of religious person.

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 06:00 PM
Finally found it. Read a few post in that thread, but I never felt sick or anything from eating pig meat. It tastes good and I see no reason not to eat it, unless you're some kind of religious person.


if you rid your system of it for a time, then pick it back up, you will get sick

JASPER
06-24-2009, 06:15 PM
I have been without pork for a year or so, but that was when I was vegging out because of my ecological girlfriend and I must say it tasted better then ever when I got back on the pork and other meat. Not been sick from eating pork, ever.

Maybe I have a good immune system.

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 07:12 PM
I have been without pork for a year or so, but that was when I was vegging out because of my ecological girlfriend and I must say it tasted better then ever when I got back on the pork and other meat. Not been sick from eating pork, ever.

Maybe I have a good immune system.

you didn't get it out of your system

you may have just stopped eating bacon and ham sandwiches

but cooking in its oil,eating its by products was still done

you didn't totally leave it alone

JASPER
06-24-2009, 07:19 PM
Hahahaha what?!

You have no idea what the shit I was eating. Raw carrots, dry spinach leaves, gritty potatoes. You're making it seem like it's an addiction or something.

LORD NOSE
06-24-2009, 07:35 PM
well..............

ok

SubConsciousThoughts
06-24-2009, 08:40 PM
This thread just makes me hungry for Ribs whenever I look at it.

EAGLE EYE
06-24-2009, 10:53 PM
Whats worse:


*eating pringles?

*eating swine?

whitey
06-24-2009, 11:14 PM
people been eating pork.

people will stay eating pork.

pork in moderation is fine.

people can and do live long healthy lives consuming pork.

drippie k
06-25-2009, 12:57 AM
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ok bro, again, how many people have you known or heard about ANYWHERE at ANY TIME at ANY PLACE whether it be the news, internet, whatever that have gotten sick from eating well-prepared pork in any of its various forms?

HOW MANY? TOO MANY TO COUNT.

and i never said anything about no conspiracy bullshit,

YOU'RE A LIAR.

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Originally Posted by drippie k http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1605988#post1605988) but to think eating pork is some kind of "consipiracy to lead the 85% astray (i.e. Black Man)" than you need to get your head out of your ass
like i said, if you do it to follow your religious practice, that's a-ok...but to mark pork or ham as fucking poison is just ridiculous....and WHAT "scientific facts" state that it is unhealthy to eat?? maybe if thats ALL you eat it would be but you know the saying "too much of anything is bad for you"

poison animal eater....:r
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holy shit did you even read what i said, are you really that ignorant or do you just pretend to be

LORD NOSE
06-25-2009, 01:00 AM
people been eating pork.

people will stay eating pork.

pork in moderation is fine.

people can and do live long healthy lives consuming pork.

i know a coke head thats been sniffin coke before i was born, he keeps a smile on his face and been at his job forever - true story
he's also cool peoples - will do anything for you

Compulsion
06-25-2009, 06:04 AM
ok bro, again, how many people have you known or heard about ANYWHERE at ANY TIME at ANY PLACE whether it be the news, internet, whatever that have gotten sick from eating well-prepared pork in any of its various forms?

and i never said anything about no conspiracy bullshit, like i said, if you do it to follow your religious practice, that's a-ok...but to mark pork or ham as fucking poison is just ridiculous....and WHAT "scientific facts" state that it is unhealthy to eat?? maybe if thats ALL you eat it would be but you know the saying "too much of anything is bad for you"





http://marketuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jamon_iberico.jpg

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mm-mmmmm...iberian ham is the best

You will find that scientific facts and KTL do not mix...at all...Now if you want to talk about 'scientific facts' that have already been dis proven...YOu are in the right spot my friend.

whitey
06-25-2009, 09:09 AM
i know a coke head thats been sniffin coke before i was born, he keeps a smile on his face and been at his job forever - true story
he's also cool peoples - will do anything for you


more power to him.


some people roll like that.


but lots of heads eat pork their whole long lives and it aint no thing.

prolly lots die early too, but they also don't eat their fruits and veggies (in a simplistic way of putting it).

LORD NOSE
06-25-2009, 04:18 PM
more power to him.


some people roll like that.


but lots of heads eat pork their whole long lives and it aint no thing.

prolly lots die early too, but they also don't eat their fruits and veggies (in a simplistic way of putting it).

thats it right there -

some people smoke cigarettes their whole life too - i've known oldie peoples who smoked cigars and cigarettes for years upon years - when they get sick, the doctor doesn't tell them they are sick from smoking - they just get sick - doesn't mean that cigarettes aren't poison - when you stop smoking cigarettes for a long time, the smell of the smoke from someone else usually bothers you - its the same with the smell of pork cooking - but to each his own

high blood pressure, the gout, hard time breathing,etc... have been attributed to a high swine diet - i'm not saying that pork is the only thing that causes these problems, but i've notice, on the very top of the do not eat list that the oldies get from their doctors when they begin to get real sick it says Pork,refined sugar,bleached bread etc... - i've seen at least 3 of these list in my life time -

KATO
08-20-2012, 10:57 AM
I'll never give up bacon..........

I refuse

If you gotta problem with that?

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/200133_o.gif

come at me bro....

BrokenWrists
08-20-2012, 11:18 AM
Why does your diet say NO pork??

"When the Diet was developed, pork meat often carried the virus of trichinosis. We haven't eaten pork ever since."

http://graciediet.com/ask/

http://graciediet.com/ask/why-does-your-diet-say-no-pork/

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LORD NOSE
08-20-2012, 11:59 AM
pork is bad for you, but this apple is still sitting here on my table looking brand new

Frank Sobotka
08-20-2012, 05:54 PM
tl;dr; my 2 cents:
-Haven't studies proven that Pigs are either smarter or cleaner than most other animals? Shouldn't that have any influence on the negative stigma they receive?

-While cows & chicken provide, respectively milk & eggs next to the meat pigs are luxury animals who are only good for their meat. Could the islamic ban on pork tie in with motivation behind the ramadan?

LORD NOSE
08-20-2012, 06:01 PM
tl;dr; my 2 cents:
-Haven't studies proven that Pigs are either smarter or cleaner than most other animals? Shouldn't that have any influence on the negative stigma they receive?

-While cows & chicken provide, respectively milk & eggs next to the meat pigs are luxury animals who are only good for their meat. Could the islamic ban on pork tie in with motivation behind the ramadan?


it's said that rats are smart too

so are dogs

cats can be quite intelligent


cleaner....nah -




pigs are said to eat their own shit

so are chickens


chickes are said to have 2 stomachs, a digestive system to handle the poisons it intakes -

pigs are said to not have a inner system equipt to handle it's intake of toxins well enough - so the toxins stay in the flesh



The War on Swine


http://wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15021&highlight=the+war+on+swine