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Longbongcilvaringz
05-22-2009, 03:19 AM
Do 5%er's agree of disagree with Hitlers key ideologies?

What is their opinion on the Holocaust in general?

Drunken Monk
05-22-2009, 05:45 AM
never again

TSA
05-22-2009, 07:19 AM
^aahahahah

Drunken Monk
05-22-2009, 06:15 PM
pateman u need speak about it wit remedy xD

Ghost In The 'Lac
05-22-2009, 06:19 PM
classic thread.

Drunken Monk
05-22-2009, 06:20 PM
Yup!!!!!

Robert
05-30-2009, 02:31 PM
Not a single response addressing the question.

drippie k
05-30-2009, 09:06 PM
everyone except white supremacists hate hitler
that answer your question??

Dr. Simon Hurt
05-30-2009, 09:29 PM
^^^lol well said; the responses in this thread made me lol literally

battle?
05-30-2009, 09:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzeXuSGzJzM

The Hound
05-31-2009, 01:44 AM
everyone except white supremacists hate hitler
that answer your question??

That is because everybody is still emotional and can't rationaly discuss something as touchy as the Nazis.

Hitler's ideology, in theory, was correct. The German economy had fallen to great lows, the Jews were emigrating in record numbers bringing vast wealth and the German people were living in poverty. The Nation of Germany needed somebody to bring it up from the ashes, and Hitler did that. In the begining, Hitler had the interest of Germany at heart, but later became a megalomanic because one man can not assume so much power. Once the Nazis had Reichstag burned down there was no turning back, they had the people where they needed them as all the threats of Communism and Judaism were all fruitless without a real life threat, which Reichstag provided. Instead of killing them he should have just deported the vast majority of the Jews back to where they came from or heavily taxed their business ventures to revive the economy because if he had have done that Germany probably would have been what the USA was after World War 2. If WW2 doesn't happen then the seppo's don't rise to economic dominance and in all likelihood that would have been the position for the Germans.

Killing the Jews was wrong and a terrible misjustice towards humanity but the essence of why it came about was still correct.

As for 5%ers, I doubt they know much about the Nazis besides killing the Jews, and their hatred of Jews is ironic given their own social misjustice and prejudice they suffered, which they routinely like to remind everybody of, which also makes it very hard to take them seriously.

LORD NOSE
05-31-2009, 09:40 AM
As for 5%ers, I doubt they

you doubt we..... ?

since you are generalizing here, can i say that "white people" are responsible for the condition that "black people" are in and not get attacked ?


know much about the Nazis besides killing the Jews, and their hatred of Jews

I've never heard one express any hatred of jews

and i doubt that you have


is ironic given their own social misjustice and prejudice they suffered, which they routinely like to remind everybody of, which also makes it very hard to take them seriously.



this is why we exist - your mind state brought us into existence
you display allot about yourself with your words
you cannot see you
but we can -

the truth puts everyone in their rightful place
and the sun comes out gradually - not at once

battle?
05-31-2009, 05:15 PM
and the sun comes out gradually - not at once

ellequently put..

Olive Oil Goombah
05-31-2009, 05:34 PM
eloquently is how its spelled, but hey, whose really watching anyway

PALEFORCE
05-31-2009, 06:55 PM
the nazis are still in power.

EAGLE EYE
05-31-2009, 07:15 PM
the nazis are still in power.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6239/ohzmygoodzness.jpg

Tecknowledgist
05-31-2009, 07:25 PM
eloquently is how its spelled, but hey, whose really watching anyway

who's is how it's spelled, but hey, who's really watching anyway

battle?
05-31-2009, 07:33 PM
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6239/ohzmygoodzness.jpg


no doubt..

LORD NOSE
05-31-2009, 08:01 PM
are yall saying that palehorse is wrong ?

PALEFORCE
05-31-2009, 08:03 PM
i hope not, because that would be foolish

lets take a quick look at the people who run nasa

Dr. Wernher von Braun, regarded as the father of the United States space program, worked under SS general Jakob Sporrenberg as technical director at the Peenemunde Rocket Center in Germany. There he and his team had built the infamous V-2 rocket . When von Braun and his colleagues realized that Germany would lose the war , and Russian troops would soon occupy Peenemunde, they fled the rocket development site in droves. Most eventually surrendered to American forces. More than 100 members of the von Braun team came to the United States to work under US Army supervision.

battle?
05-31-2009, 08:19 PM
Bilderberg Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group) >nazi's

this is a good movie to check where they compare obama to hitler..
The Obama Deception

set_rule
07-11-2009, 06:55 PM
Well from one G to the next........ this is how i cee it . A Few FACTS not Opinions

Did one notice that on the night Barry defeated McCain and those other puppets running for Prez ..... Barry and his Wife... even the little ones.. had on BLACK and RED ...... All symbolic representing Fascism ..... going all the way back to ROME. Take a look at the symbols,ever notice two fasces standing behind the Prez when he speaks before the congress when its viewed on TV??? So Hitler was funded by Wall Street Bankers and were Nazi collaborators (BUSH) ..Daddy Prescott and the bank he presided over (Union Banking) ...... we can build on this further if you want

peace

Olive Oil Goombah
07-11-2009, 07:41 PM
You have to understand and put yourself in the context of the times.

Its easy to pick everything apart after the fact.

Supposing Wall Street did provide some funding to Hitler in the early 30's, (which you have yet to back with any true evidence or facts), how were they to know what the future held?

The West, all democracies and free market nations were squarely against communism to the point that the right would rather back 'fascists' (a highly ambiguous term in), whom they hated , than the communists, whom they hated more.

You can try to put a spin on it, but any person who is a student of history is already aware of this.

Communism is the natural enemy. Fascism or Nazism, whatever form it might take is superior to communism because it places greater importance on the state and it is usually corporativist.
But again, fascism was so short-lived that it is hard to judge how effective it really is as a system of goverance.

It will always be linked negatively because of the Nazi's and Hitler but really, the seeds of the second world war were planted during the first and even back farther during the Franco Prussian War.

France and Britain did NOT want Germany to have a piece of the pie and Germany resented them for this. Thus two world wars were fought.

The United States at this time wanted nothing to do with Europe, they were busy trying to control their own sphere of influence and maintain good trade relatiosn with its partners.


There is an intertwining of politics and business no doubt, but im afraid that the analogies your trying to make are very suspect.

ChristO
07-11-2009, 09:10 PM
all I know is...Hitler was the elect, used as a pawn in this wwII agenda. the system knowing who he was. if I said Adam [of the bible, who was cast from Eden] before, then...eh, so the white jews ain't see that. neither do the blacks. they ain't notice Paul the apostle or Martin Luther the revolutionary monk, in Adolf. I'm just piecing this together.

Dr. Simon Hurt
07-11-2009, 09:38 PM
tooch, you're forever talking out of your ass...learn something.

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

IBM had a relationship with the Nazi technocracy, the cataloguing machines used at concentration camps were IBM manufacture.

http://news.cnet.com/2009-1082-269157.html

Standard Oil and General Motors supplied Nazis with fuel. (IG Farben, a German petrochemical company (a subsidiary of which is Bayer...which created Zyklon B) along with...the Rockefellers, were majority stockholders of Standard Oil)

http://mit.edu/thistle/www/v13/3/oil.html

American groups, such as the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Institute, directly funded Nazi eugenics projects (http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/index.html) in the early '30s (where the goal was to find ways to breed a master race). Of course, once the war started, most American businesses cut ties with Hitler. IBM, on the other hand, decided to stick around and see where he was going with this whole final solution thing.
http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/index.html


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Not to mention that the Skull and Bones are descended from the German Thule Society, or German Order of Death.

When it comes to government and capitalism interacting, all roads lead to fascism.

Dr. Simon Hurt
07-11-2009, 09:42 PM
Communism is the natural enemy. Fascism or Nazism, whatever form it might take is superior to communism because it places greater importance on the state and it is usually corporativist.


This is ridiculous...fascism puts the state above individual human lives...which is completely backwards and not at all what government is supposed to be there for. You are correct that it is corporate government...this is exactly how Mussolini defined fascism.

You do realize true Communism has never actually been implemented yet? We've just had totalitarian regimes ideologically closer to fascism masquerading as Communism.

Olive Oil Goombah
07-11-2009, 10:04 PM
u are just restating what i originally said.

and the interests of corporations and big business does not reflect the sole interests of the government.

Your taking a few pieces of evidence and trying to connect the dots but ignoring everything in between.

Corporations and big business act in their own interest and that supercedes anything that the politicians have in mind.

Like I said before you tried proving me wrong because i make some racial jokes, you have to look at things in the context of their time.

All of these men that were in power at this time grew up during the era of social darwinism under the thought that the Western/Northern European was far more advanced and evolved than the rest of the world.

So it is really no surprise that they would fund something like that. Maybe it is to you, i dunno, you seem overly naive, impressionable and likely to believe any conspiracy theorty that fits your agenda.

Im not against any conspiracy, on the contrary most interest me, but Im not going to believe something that has vague evidences drawning inaccurate conclusions using faulty logic and bad analogies.

Furthermore, the fact that Americans did business with Nazis does not surprise me.

What exactly are you trying to prove???

That there is corruption in government?

No fucking shit. Has there ever not been.


True communism is nearly impossible as it would have to erase human greed, evil and corruption which has been immortalized already in every holy book.

set_rule
07-11-2009, 10:07 PM
Two Americans devised a scheme....

The Dawes Plan and The Young Plan


In 1924 or 25 The Dawes Plan... arranged a series of foreign loans totaling $800 million with their proceeds flowing to Germany. These loans are important for my FACTS ... because the proceeds, raised for the greater part in the United States from dollar investors, were utilized in the mid-1920s to create and consolidate the gigantic chemical and steel combinations of I. G. Farben and Vereinigte Stahlwerke, respectively. These criminal cartels not only helped Hitler to power in 1933... they also produced the bulk of key German war materials used in World War II

Not only were these plans part of an influential sector of American businessmen and bankers they were fully aware of the nature of Naziism, but for its own purposes aided Naziism wherever possible (and profitable)...still suspect right??


The Young Plan was assertedly a device to occupy Germany with American capital and pledge German real assets for a gigantic mortgage held in the United States. It is noteworthy that German firms with U.S. affiliations evaded the Plan by the device of temporary foreign ownership. For instance, A.E.G. (German General Electric), affiliated with General Electric in the U.S., was sold to a Franco-Belgian holding company and evaded the conditions of the Young Plan. It should be noted in passing that Owen Young was the major financial backer for Franklin Roosevelt in the United European venture when FDR, as a budding Wall Street financier, endeavoured to take advantage of Germany's 1925 hyperinflation. The United European venture was a vehicle to speculate and to profit upon the imposition of the Dawes Plan, and is clear evidence of private financiers incl FDR... using the power of the state to advance they own interests by manipulating foreign policy .... still suspect huh??

The difference between the Young Plan and the Dawes Plan was that, while the Young Plan required payments in goods produced in Germany financed by foreign loans, the Young Plan required monetary payments ....... lets follow the money directly towards the 'fascists'


American companies associated with the Morgan-Rockefeller international investment bankers not, it should be noted, the vast bulk of independent American industrialists were intimately related to the growth of Nazi industry. It is important to note as i begin to explain this story.... General Motors, Ford, General Electric, DuPont and the handful of U.S. companies intimately involved with the development of Nazi Germany were except for the Ford Motor Company controlled by the Wall Street elite the J.P. Morgan firm, the Rockefeller Chase Bank and to a lesser extent the Warburg Manhattan bank .... why did'nt Ford get any BAILOUT money last year or did they???

American assistance to Nazi war efforts extended into other areas too!!!!! The two largest tank producers in Hitler's Germany were Opel, a wholly owned subsidiary of General Motors (controlled by the J.P. Morgan firm), and the Ford A. G. subsidiary of the Ford Motor Company in Detroit. The Nazis granted tax-exempt status to Opel in 1936, to enable General Motors to expand its production facilities. General Motors obligingly reinvested the resulting profits into German industry. Henry Ford was decorated by the Nazis for his services to Naziism.....Alcoa and Dow Chemical worked closely with Nazi industry with numerous transfers of their domestic U.S. technology. Bendix Aviation, in which the J.P. Morgan-controlled General Motors firm had a major stock interest, supplied Siemens & Halske A. G. in Germany with data on automatic pilots and aircraft instruments. As late as 1940, in the "unofficial war," Bendix Aviation supplied complete technical data to Robert Bosch for aircraft and diesel engine starters and received royalty payments in return......take a look at the names, still on display in 09


Lets continue to build ...... peaceful debates

ChristO
07-11-2009, 11:02 PM
Well from one G to the next........ this is how i cee it . A Few FACTS not Opinions

Did one notice that on the night Barry defeated McCain and those other puppets running for Prez ..... Barry and his Wife... even the little ones.. had on BLACK and RED ...... All symbolic representing Fascism ..... going all the way back to ROME. Take a look at the symbols,ever notice two fasces standing behind the Prez when he speaks before the congress when its viewed on TV??? So Hitler was funded by Wall Street Bankers and were Nazi collaborators (BUSH) ..Daddy Prescott and the bank he presided over (Union Banking) ...... we can build on this further if you want

peace
um, right, the Bushes had involvement in funding the Hitler regime, right?
well, Barak gonna' have to make a choice, which team he's on. when or if he does, it'd be about or after 2012 and second election...when "they" know [or would think] that the coast is clear. his sponsors gon' catch wind if he diverts from their agenda. then he'd be expended, given up to be liquidated. about 2015.

John Nash
07-25-2014, 06:01 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/3419060/Muhammad-Alis-meetings-with-Ku-Klux-Klan-leaders-revealed-by-documentary-Boxing-and-MMA.html

Muhammad Ali's meetings with Ku Klux Klan leaders revealed by documentary

Shortly before he fought Joe Frazier in the Philippines in 1975, Muhammad Ali met with the leaders of the Ku Klux Klan.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01111/frazier-muhammed-a_1111473c.jpgThrilla in Manila: Muhammad Ali beats Joe Frazier Photo: AP






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The revelation of his cosy chats with white supremacists comes in a television documentary screened on More4. As Ali finds himself overtaken as the most celebrated black American in history, True Stories: Thrilla In Manila provides a timely re-assessment of his politics.

"I think Ali is being done a disservice by the way in which he's these days cast as benign," says John Dower, the film's director. "He was always a lot more complicated than that."

Before his third fight with Frazier, Ali was at his most elevated, symbolically as well as in the ring. Hard to imagine when these days he elicits universal reverence, back then he was a figure who divided America, as loathed as he was admired. At the time he was taking his lead from the Nation of Islam, which, in its espousal of a black separatism, found its politics dovetailing with the cross-burning lynch mob out on the political boondocks. Ali was by far the organisation's most prominent cipher.

The film reminds us why. Back then, black sporting prowess reinforced many a prejudiced theory about the black man being good for nothing beyond physical activity. But here was Ali, as quick with his mind as with his fists. When he held court the world listened. Intriguingly, the film reveals, many of his better lines were scripted for him by his Nation of Islam minders.

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Ferdie Pacheco, the man who converted Ali to the bizarre cause which insisted that a spaceship would imminently arrive in the United States to take the black man to a better place, tells Dower's cameras that it was he who came up with the line, "No Viet Cong ever called me nigger". There was never a more succinct summary of America's hypocrisy in forcing its beleaguered black citizenry to fight in Vietnam.
"Ali has been post-rationalised as a champion of the civil rights movement," says Dower. "But far from promoting the idea of black and white together, his was a much more tricky, divisive politics."
The film suggests it was his opponent who got the blunt end of Ali's political bludgeon. The pair were once friends and Frazier had supported Ali's stance on refusing the draft. But leading up to the fight Ali turned on his old mate with a ferocity which makes uncomfortable viewing even 30 years on. Viciously disparaging of Frazier, he calls him an Uncle Tom, a white man's puppet.
Ali riled Frazier to the point where he entered the ring so infuriated that he abandoned his game plan and blindly struck out. So distracted was he by Ali's politically motivated jibes, he lost. Indeed, what we might be watching in Dower's film is not so much the apex of Ali's political potency as the birth of sporting mind games.

check two
07-25-2014, 06:59 PM
Well from one G to the next........ this is how i cee it . A Few FACTS not Opinions

Did one notice that on the night Barry defeated McCain and those other puppets running for Prez ..... Barry and his Wife... even the little ones.. had on BLACK and RED ...... All symbolic representing Fascism ..... going all the way back to ROME. Take a look at the symbols,ever notice two fasces standing behind the Prez when he speaks before the congress when its viewed on TV??? So Hitler was funded by Wall Street Bankers and were Nazi collaborators (BUSH) ..Daddy Prescott and the bank he presided over (Union Banking) ...... we can build on this further if you want

peace

Skip, is that a fake beard in your avatar?

check two
07-25-2014, 07:00 PM
5%ers are looked down upon and so was Hitler, so that's another thing in common

John Nash
07-25-2014, 07:04 PM
anti-Semitism as well lol

John Nash
07-25-2014, 07:06 PM
btw itd be interesting to see if sunny edits any of these posts. if he edits them hell be proving that hes been snooping around for a long time lol