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06-15-2005, 05:14 PM
Ok, this is to all of the people who still believe 9/11 was the work of 19 Arabic Hijackers and an operation entirely masterminded by Osama Bin Laden, mainly because he hates our freedom’s and disagrees with American Liberalism. Despite all of their hard work, the United States Government simply could not see the attack coming.

When one considers all of the hardcore facts, there is no way this excuse holds even a grain of truth in it. The official story is impossible and simply does not stand up to scrutiny. Even more laughable is the excuse given by government officials that it was simply a "failure of intelligence" and the attack could not be averted. Politicians should not even form their mouths to even use an incompetence excuse. Warnings were received by the US by at least 18 other countries, and agents in the CIA, and the FBI were warned. The FAA got warnings too. In fact,

Prior Knowledge:

CIA had high-jacker details (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3516233.stm)
Taliban warned the US of huge attack (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2242594.stm)
FBI warned of plot to high-jack planes in 1995 (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/18/inv.hijacking.philippines/index.html)
FBI warned of Suspicious flight student last year (http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/FOX%20NEWS_FBI%20Agent%20Warned%20of%20Suspicious% 20Flight%20Students%20Last%20Summer.html)CIA ignorned warnings of Al-Queda (http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/FINANCIAL%20TIMES_CIA%20'ignored%20warning'%20on%2 0al%20Qaeda.htm)
US knew of Suicide highjack threat in 1995 (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,47133,00.html)
The airlift of evil (http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/MSNBC_The%20airlift%20of%20evil.htm)
Threat of US attacks passed Taliban weeks before the attacks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,556254,00.html)
US clamps secrecy on attacks before 911 (http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/NEWS%20DAY_US%20Clamps%20Secrecy%20on%20Warnings%2 0Before%209-11.htm)


It seems that there were so many warnings, that


"The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defence of incompetence." Micheal Meacher, Tony Blairs former environmental advisor until 2003. London Guardian (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html)

In addition to these Government officials and other people received individuals warnings as well. Mayor Willie Brown was warned by Condoleezza Rice not to fly on 911, author Salmon Rushdie was publicly banned from flying before 911, and John Ashcroft former Attorney General stopped flying commercially six months before 911. Even some people working inside of the towers got instant messages, telling them to evacuate the WTC.

We must ask ourselves, where did all this prior knowledge come from, and why was it all ignored? Is it possible for that this much information of this magnitude of importance to get tangled up in a beaurecratic web of telephone lines? The answer is NO, people in side of the Trade Towers got INSTANT MESSAGES telling them the buildings were going to be destroyed two hours before it happened. You’re going to tell me someone can get an INSTANT MESSAGE to someone inside the World Trade Center two hours before the attack, but no one can get the message to the President of the United States? Bullshit. Condoleezza Rice calls Mayor Willie Brown and tells HIM not to fly, BUT SHE CAN'T CALL THE PRESIDENT AND TELL HIM TO STOP THE ATTACK?!?!?

Sources:

Odigo Says Workers Were Warned of the Attack (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C)
San Francisco Chronicle - Mayor Willie Brown got Low-Key Warning about Air Travel (http://www.sfgate.com/today/0912_chron_mnreport.shtml)
The Truth Seeker-Condi Lisa Rice Warned Willie Brown and Told him not to fly on 911 (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1000)
CBS News - Ashcroft Flying High (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml)


In addition there are over 600 smoking gun holes and unanswered questions in the official story of 911; I'm only going to scratch the surface, w/ some of the main ones.

First thing is the NORAD stand down order.

"The first hijacking was suspected at not later than 8.20am, and the last hijacked aircraft crashed in Pennsylvania at 10.06am. Not a single fighter plane was scrambled to investigate from the US Andrews airforce base, just 10 miles from Washington DC, until after the third plane had hit the Pentagon at 9.38 am. Why not? There were standard FAA intercept procedures for hijacked aircraft before 9/11. Between September 2000 and June 2001 the US military launched fighter aircraft on 67 occasions to chase suspicious aircraft" (AP, August 13 2002)
guardian, once again (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html)

NORAD completely stood down, this is a clear violation of FAA flight regulations, and NORAD could have probably stopped the attack, at least partially. The morning of 911 NORAD was training in a war game of flying hijacked aircrafts into buildings ON the Morning of 911. On the Morning of 911??!?! Yep, the drill stopped just 50 minutes before the Hi-Jacking began. No wonder there was no Military Response, NORAD was told that the planes being Hijacked were just part of a drill. That's why they stood down.

What are the chances of this happening? It's just a coincidence that they were running a war-game drill of the same monumental event to be documented in history books for centuries? Of course it’s possible, but very unlikely.

This is so weird to have happened, and even weirder is the fact that this type of a wargame is going on the morning of 911. This type of event would be simmilar to seeing Oswald and the CIA training how to kill Kennedy in Dealy Plaza an hour before it happened.

Yahoo News - Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building (http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/YAHOO%20NEWS_Agency%20planned%20exercise%20on%20Se pt%2011%20built%20around%20a%20plane%20crashing%20 into%20a%20building.htm)
USA Today - NORAD has drills to use jets as weapons (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htm)
Associated Press - Exercise built around crashing planes into buildings (http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sept11/anniversary/wire_stories/0903_plane_exercise.htm)



In addition, the list of the 19 hijackers and their picture identification was assembled and aired just hours after the attack. How do we jump to the accusations that 19 suspects are guilty of 3,000 American murders when most, if not all of the evidence, is twisted metal and degenerated ashes that used to be people? Actually by the time the hijackers had their mug shots aired on TV, all of the crime scenes had been destroyed. Buildings one and two collapsed, as well as the mysterious building seven collapsing on its own, the plane that hit the pentagon decentegrated, and flight 93 was likely shot down, hours later we miraculously post all of their mug shots on the news? Damn, we must be good.

So how exactly did the United States leap to their allegations of guilt?

A travel bag belonging to one of the 911 hijackers was found at the airport after the attacks, absolutely ruling beyond any doubt, that this was the work of Al-Queda.

Question: Why would a hijacker, planning to commit suicide, even BRING A BAG? Let alone pack it w/ incriminating evidence sure to unleash a fire storm of military hell on all of his fellow Afghani people? The bag contained enough evidences to precisely tie the perpetrators to the Taliban and Al-Queda justify the assault in Afghanistan.
(911 the Great Illusion)

Answer: this is MANUFACTURED EVIDENCE


Now BBC has began running stories that many of these men have shown up as being still alive. 911 eleven Hijackers steal our planes to suicide attack us because were not doing what Allah says, and then they show up still being alive. So that means that at least five of the men on the hi-jackers list cannot be the same men who were on the plane. But the government has stuck to their official story on this, and no one in the mainstream media has ever brought this up, or challenged them on it. Many of the Hijackers are now appearing on television in their countries and professing their innocence. A lot of information like this has been circulating around other parts of the world, and it is likely part of the reason why America's image has dropped from negative to terrible. Most people in other countries know this is going on, but Americans are sleeping.


The Truth is unleashed in other parts of the world but it’s concealed from American eyes as a way to demonize Americans to the rest of the world, while American media demonizes the rest of the world (particularly Arabs) to America, this is a way of polarizing both side to inspire conflict on both sides.

Sources:


High JAck Suspects alive and well (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm)
High Jack Suspects Alive in Morroco (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1558669.stm)


Bombs in the Towers


http://www.prisonplanet.tv/images/may2004/050504collapse.jpg

___ This next part is important, because it's hardcore vissual evidence of government involvement in 9/11 and is nearly impossible to deny.

Building seven, first of all, was the third building to collapse within the World Trade Center Complex. According to the government’s official story, building seven was destroyed from fire, along with buildings one and two.

Videos Show Building 7's 6.5 second symmetrical collapse

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif

First of all it’s important to say that fire has never once brought a steel structure down. Out of 100 uncontrolled fires in the last 50 years NEVER has fire collapsed a steel building, only earthquakes and explosives have been able to flatten these architectural structures.

So, why is building seven so significant? It’s important because building seven collapsed without being struck by an airplane or anything else, almost as if it were the wind that knocked it over.

Several videos have been salvaged which show building seven's collapse and shocking evidence has surfaced from scrutiny.

CBS Broadcast of Buildinding Seven's fall - Dan Rather admits it looks like Explosives (http://www.wtc7.net/vdocs/wtc_7_cbs.mpg)
Building Seven's Collapase from a mile away (http://wtc7.net/vdocs/wtc7_collapse.mpg)
Building Seven's Colapse from 1000 feet away, this is very obvious (http://www.wtc7.net/vdocs/wtc7_collapse2.mpg)

You see, building seven DECENTEGRATED INTO RUBBLE in a vertical symmetrical fashion in 6.5 seconds. If building seven was taken down by an aircraft impact (even though it was not) it would have thrown back horizontally, transferring the energy away from the airplane impacts. And if it was fire that had brought it down, we would have seen the structure reduced into liquid metal, and the streets would be a river of flame. But this building simply fell straight to the ground and crumbled.

I need to explain something about controlled demolition. First of all, when buildings are demolished the explosives are placed in the central column, so the structure falls inwards and does not damage other surrounding buildings. So they only way the building can fall like this or fall period is through the use of explosives.

THE FEMA REPORT ON WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 COLLAPSE IS A TOTAL JOKE. (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fema_report.html)

http://wtc7.net/docs/streamers.jpg

“Each of the following videos shows the entire visible portion of the building falling with a vertical precision otherwise seen only in controlled demolition. Moreover, they show that the collapse took only about 6.5 seconds from start to finish. That rate of fall is within a second of the time it would take an object to fall from the building's roof with no air resistance”

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/WTCDemol.jpg

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/WTC-bomb-frame048enhanced.jpg

BUT, building seven is even more important because the offical story of building seven collapse is because it was damaged from fire, HOWEVER, Larry Silverstine the owner of buildings one, two, and seven, got on televiosn on America Rebuilds on PBS, and slipped up, ADMITTING, THAT HE BLEW UP BUILDING SEVEN, He Said "WE PULLED THE BUILDING!" Here's the video from the PBS documentary.

http://infowars.com/Video/911/wtc7_pbs.WMV

Here's another clip where a demolitions expert describes "PULL IT" As a controlled demolition.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/pullit2.mp3

NOW, it's extremely important to mention that rigging buildins with explosives is a tiresom and very time consuming process, and to properly plant explosives in mathematicaly harmonious fasion to create a smooth symetrical drop. Actually it would take weeks to prepare for the demolition. So not only does Larry Silverstine, the owner of the complex admit to blowing up building seven, But building seven COULD NOT have been demolished on such short notice. Weeks of demolitions planning does not jive well with Osama's suprise attack. In fact it's impossible.

Even some former Bush insiders have went public and stated that the offical story of the collapse is a complete fraud.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20...02755-6408r.htm (http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050613-102755-6408r.htm)


Good lookin to Dem Bruce Lee Stylez, and his MIGHTY nine eleven thread right here (http://immortal-technique.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4020&st=0)

Historical Comparison

http://www.historyproject.net/images/vol01/28-1125a.jpg

----The Burning of the Reichstag



In 1933 Adolph Hitler wanted to seize dictotorial powers and turn Germany into a police state. So he set the massive governmental building on fire, that is known as the Reichstag (German Parliament) the blazing infernos sent the population into a state of petrified fear. Adolph Hitler and his party won by a landslide in the election just weeks later and later on was able to merge the Chancellor’s powers with that of the Presidents, and this is the origin of where his dictatorial power came from. Hitler also blamed the terrorist attack on the communists, and recived a pretext, or a reason, to attack them.


The real Pretext

Hitler’s conspiratorial tactic of burning the Reichstag to receive dictatorial power, and a pretext to attack his enemies is a method that is known as the Hegelian Dialectic, which is translated simply as problem, reaction, solution. The Hegelian Dialectic is a tactic that was developed by the 19th century German philosopher George Wilhelm Fredric Hegel. The way this works is, you create a crisis, the population is thrown into fear, and then you, the creator of the crisis, step in with a pre-organized solution, and pose as the savior. As soon as 911 occurred, literally while the smoke was still streaming from the building, politicians began targeting us with Doublethink approaches to get us to give up our freedom for security.

I don't want to digress too much, but this is important.

Doublethink is the practice of misrepresenting something bad as something good, such as pushing identity theft propaganda in order to get the people wanting a national ID card. This was the phrase coined in George Orwell's book 1984, which psychologically persuaded the population to relinquish there freedom unto big brother and simultaneously be happy about it. We see doublethink utilized daily by politicians.

The Hegelian Dialectic fused with the double think approach has given ruthless men an unbelievably effective tactic of power consolidation. But this time it's bigger,

http://www.redrat.net/BUSH_WAR/New-World-Order.jpg


PNAC(Project For a New American Centeury

The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) was founded by Dick Chenney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis Libby and others in 2000. This is a pro-globalization neo-con think tank. On his website Dick Cheney lays out a Blueprint for America to invade many of it's neighbors and construct a "global command and control system" Cheney sites Syria, Libya, and North Korea as terrorist regimes, and uses their existence to justify invasions and restructuring there powers under a Pax America. It's strange, earlier in the year, Rumsfeld was selling Nuclear Reactors to North Korea. Now he's sitting in meetings at PNAC calling them a dangerous regime. HaHa, who made them more dangerous, Mr. Rumsfeld?
This document also mentions that public support would be very difficult to rally for these upcoming wars, and that a "Pearl Harbor Like Attack" would be very helpful. Now this is a public document, saying we need helpful Pearl Harbor attacks, that's motive, and practically admittance.

Sources:

PNAC offical site (http://www.newamericancentury.org/) read the documents.
Meacher talks about PNAC too (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html)
Guardian UK - The Two Faces of Rumseld (http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,00.html)

Not only this, but


"the US and the UK, are running dangerously low on hydrocarbon energy supplies. And by 2010 the Muslim world will control as much as 60% of the worlds oil production, and 95% of the remaining exportable oil. "

Protecting oil supplies in a crisis (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/937573.stm)
Taliban to Texas for Oil Talks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/36735.stm)
Bottom of the Barrel, the world is runnin out of oil, why do Politicans refuse to talk about it? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1097622,00.html)
Threats of US to strike Taliban weeks before the attacks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,556254,00.html)



Cui Bono(Who Benefits?)

Three Corporations involved in the war on terror/The World effort. They are the
Carlyle Group, Unocal, and Halliburton,

Carlyle group: Bush and the Bin Laden family are BOTH investors in this company, that is headed almost exclusively by former government officals. They develope missile targetting systems, and have exponenctially increased their profits since 911.


Unocal: Bush just hired the former CEO, I believe to his administration, others inside the camp are investors as well. This is the company building the pipeline through Afganistan, to route the oil out, they are poised to make a killing off of oil deals directly resulting from 911 after math.

Halliburton: I don't even half to say it. Well incase I do, Halliburton is a construction company rakeing in billions of dollars from rebuilding the spots on the map, after America destroys them.

And to top all that off,

"No serious attempt has ever been made to catch Bin Laden. In late September and early October 2001, leaders of Pakistan's two Islamist parties negotiated Bin Laden's extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for 9/11. However, a US official said, significantly, that "casting our objectives too narrowly" risked "a premature collapse of the international effort if by some lucky chance Mr Bin Laden was captured". The US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Myers, went so far as to say that "the goal has never been to get Bin Laden" (AP, April 5 2002). The whistle blowing FBI agent Robert Wright told ABC News (December 19 2002) that FBI headquarters wanted no arrests. And in November 2001 the US air force complained it had had al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in its sights as many as 10 times over the previous six weeks, but had been unable to attack because they did not receive permission quickly enough (Time Magazine, May 13 2002). None of this assembled evidence, all of which comes from sources already in the public domain, is compatible with the idea of a real, determined war on terrorism"
Micheal Meacher

The War on terror is not the war on terror, it's putting the PNAC agenda into action.

Not only have they blatantly avoided chances to catch Bin Laden, but many reporters have written articles about top government officials holding the investigation in the dark, delaying them, and in some cases even protecting the terrorists. I'd post the actual document but I'm out of picture slots so you have to settle for the article, or research the rest yourself.

Bush restricts 911 probes (http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/WASHINGTON%20POST_Bush%20Seeks%20To%20Restrict%20H ill%20Probes%20Of%20Sept%2011.htm)Top Taladan leader freed by US (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/09/wtal09.xml)
911 study hindered (http://www.sptimes.com/2002/05/09/Worldandnation/Graham__911_study_hin.shtml)
Bush trying to hide 911 information (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/5993628.htm)
911 documents to sensitive for realse (http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/27/bush.911/)
Bush discourages 911 investagations (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/01/29/inv.terror.probe/)
Times of India - Bush took FBI agents off the Trail of Bin Ladens (http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?art_id=1030259305)
Guardian UK - Agent Blasts FBI over 11 Sept 'cover up' (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/waronterrorism/story/0,1373,722426,00.html)


Goes on and on


ILLUMINATI NEW WORLD ORDER, THE CARD GAME

Not only has PNAC directly stated that they want "helpful Pearl Harbor Attacks" in their offical documents, but a card game entitled Illuminati New World Order, surfaced in 1995, which discribed the events of 911 with a shocking level of acuracy. The game INWO contained cards that said the words "Terrorist Nuke" at the top with an illustration of the Twin Towers being destroyed clearly shows tower one being demolished first.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/Terrorist_nuke.jpg

-This amazingly means, that this card predicted almost exacty what what happened in New York City, six years before the actual event. It also identifies the villians as "Terrorist" at the top, which was not a term used nearly as much before 911, I don't know about the nuke part, although explosives were definetly in use on September 11th.

-The explosion on the card is very close to the actual planes entry point.

-Another interesting thing to note, is the illuminati pyramid to the left of tower two.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/pentagon.jpg

This card is chilling. We know that the plane or the missile or whatever hit the pentagon, peirce through several walls puncturneing holes through several of the steel reinforced concrecte walls at the Pentagon, and actually exploded somwhere in the middle, Although it took out a wing, the rest of the pentagon was unscathed.

Here is a flash of the Pentagon which accurately shows the damage very simmilar to this card.

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryho...ntagon.php#Main (http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main)

Funny how they got both of these right and didn't make any mistakes six years before the attack, perhaps someone had advanced knowledge of it.

On March 1st 1990 the Secret Service and Austin Police raided Steve Jackson, the maker of the game's, office and confiscated four of his computers. Steve JAckson games fought back in court, but nearly suffered bankrupcy in the process. The charges were so bogues on the affavid that the judge awarded $50,000 as well as attornies fees to SJG. It's strange the secret service would bother the manufactuer of a role playing game, perhaps it was to stop them from realeaseing Illuminati New World Order.

Here is the website of the game maker.
http://www.sjgames.com/inwo/

And props to the Cutting Edge for bringing this to my attention, most of what I have articulated is paraphrased from their article on INWO. Although theirs gets a bit too weird for me, here is the original article and props to them once again.


http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

The really scary thing is,


Home Land security = Police State Mechanism

New Laws in the Works, are...

Patriot Act: Old school now, Police and government officials do not need warrants to enter homes now, and can seize anything in your house, and not tell you they were there for 60 days. Also ambiguous language could allow for secret juryless trials and even executions for supposed "Terrorists". The definition of a terrorist as shown in the Patriot Act is one who commits "Any act that endangers human life, IN VIOLATION WITH ANY FEDERAL OR STATE LAW" So Jay walkers and pot dealers are terroist too. The Patriot Act has been used on many "domestic terrorists" for crimes such as being a gang member to writing a story here are some of the many examples, of new laws designateing all American citizens as enemeis of the state.




Pot dealears are terrorists now.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/loca...uggling29m.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001992821_smuggling29m.html)
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/349/creep.shtml
http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/V...patriot20040805 (http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=bc_patriot20040805)
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/007442.html

People who write storries about Zombies, are terrorists too,
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614&nav=EQlpWjof
http://www.paxtonland.com/archives/2005/03/002907.php
http://minorkey.deviantart.com/journal/4729752/


Gang members are terrorists too
http://www.newstarget.com/003554.html
http://www.terroranalysis.com/story/107777.html
http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/12/30/23170/828

Who else?
People who own Toy Stores are being visited by Home Land Security, why would they do that?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=206591
http://www.stupidsecurity.com/article.pl?s...238&mode=thread (http://www.stupidsecurity.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/29/0014238&mode=thread)
http://www.stupidsecurity.com/article.pl?s...238&mode=thread (http://www.stupidsecurity.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/29/0014238&mode=thread)

Photographers have been arrested under the Patriot Act
http://grep.law.harvard.edu/article.pl?sid...247&mode=thread (http://grep.law.harvard.edu/article.pl?sid=02/12/08/2244247&mode=thread)

FBI says Patriot Act used in Vegas strip club corruption probe
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/200...s/22521283.html (http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Nov-05-Wed-2003/news/22521283.html)
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/p...ptionprobe.html (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/probe/20031104-0835-nv-corruptionprobe.html)
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../515818511.html (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2003/nov/04/515818511.html)
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3540572/
http://news.neilrogers.com/news/articles/2003111407.html



Anti-terror laws increasingly used against common criminals
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...1259EDT0480.DTL

Shopkeeper deported from South Carolina under PATRIOT Act killed in Pakistan
http://www.unknownnews.net/030929dead.html

And there's even more examples of this here, I don't feel the need to post
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/octob...4patriotact.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2004/091004patriotact.htm)


National ID cards, are also on the agenda which contain name, address the usual things, but also a finger and a retinal print, also rumors are circulating about a possible tracking chip inside of them. Homeland security had a fetish w/ RFID technology, and may use it to track us all w/ it through are cards.

We have the National all Prescriptions reporting act, which makes all of your medical drug information accessible by Federal agencies, all of them in fact since their all allowed sharing information now.

And the possible enactment of mandatory psychological testing for children and prescribing drugs without the parents consent.
There are also talks of extending the program to the entire population. (Note: The Forced psychological testing bill has already been passed, search “new freedom initiative” for more info)

AND the mother of them all of course, the Patriot Act II, while the first Patriot Act is just a destruction first, third, fourth and fifth amendments, Patriot Act II is a carbon copy of the powers that Hitler and Julius Caesar gave themselves
Patriot Act II creates an expanded definition for domestic terrorism, And it allows any terrorism act to result in the death penalty, allows federal access to your bank, educational, and financial records, and makes conspiracy to commit terror a crime with out endangering any life what so ever. And amazingly makes information gathering illegal, in fact this post right here would go under the heading of "Info Terrorism"

Patriot act II is enormously unpopular, and received massive amounts of bad press, so it's being passed in smaller increments, 10% of it has already been passed as HR2417, which allows for the pulling of all Financial and Medical transcripts.

"Strengthening Patriot Act I is code for passing Patriot Act 2."
There trying to do this now.


Summary:


911 was such a cataclysmic event, it galvanized both the idiots and the intellectuals of America into a flag waving frenzy for nearly five years. 911 has become a never ending excuse to fight any war over seas, and implement any authoritarian rule domestically. Politicians were so quick to exploit this event, jumping in there tanks and battle suits while rushing 1000 page bills through the Senate and House. One has to wonder, why the knee jerk reaction of this attack was to shift into throwing a doublethink deception at the people, telling them to give up freedom for liberty before the smoke had yet to even clear from the air.

Giving up freedom for Liberty is a False Paradigm. No Liberty = Tyranny.

As the Roman judges used to say when a crime was committed, “key bono?”, or who benefits? The globalists who masterminded this attack want authoritarian control of America, invasion into uncontrolled Arab states, and overall a world climate that is so dangerous and unstable, the people will beg them for a one world government. A government ruled by them. Order out of chaos.

I've developed quite a case here, and I think my arguments are supported extremely well, even without all of my information on the towers; this is very strong evidence that we are being lied too, almost on a daily basis. Most of this literally proves the official story is a fraud and there's a lot of things I chose not to talk about, like 100s of Al-Queda and Taliban being flown out after 911, Insider trading right before 911, or Bush pulling FBI agents off of the Trail of the Bin Laden right before 911 (Edit: I did touch on that) and signing documents to protect them. However I've come to the conclusion that in this instance, the problem is there is actually TOO MUCH evidence here, so I won't even bother with the links for my last claims.

If you think I've made a compelling case, than I urge you learn more about this, because if I'm even remotely correct, and this New World Order aka the "Global Union" is created, by the same creatures who carried out this attack, I don't think your going to want to live under the tyranny grids they've constructed for you. I'm not charging the government with carrying this out, but these Rogue elements with tentacles into our government, who live in families who are worth five times as much as our countries annual budget. If you look more into this, I know you'll see that what I'm saying is true, this is what has happened with me. So please spread this thread around as much as you can, watch some of these movies I post at the bottom, PLEASE look into this more. I know when you find out what I'm saying is real, you'll fight it with even more compassion.

In the past only small pockets of people have had information on this subject, which served to cloak events in a protective secrecy. But lately a plethora of new information has been consolidated, creating an incredibly chaotic environment for the globalist where the risk of mass exposure is becoming very real. So once you learn, please spread this information on to others.

This is an information war, against elites with 90% of the wealth trying to control the political and financial systems to control mankind, and doing it for there own selfish desires. And information of this type is so much more powerful than any gun or grenade or tank or anything. Every single word we spew of resistance is a bullet, discharged from a chamber and sent into the heart of the New World Order Demon, and it will take a lot to kill it, but humanity will prevail.

911 Documentaries


Martial Law: 911 Rise of the Police State (The best damn 911 movie ever made)
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/images/march2005/040305martialcover.jpg
Windows Media Player:
Broadband:

http://www.revradio.org/movies/ml.wmv

Dial up:

http://www.revradio.org/movies/ml56k.wmv

Stream:

Broadband:

http://www.revradio.org/movies/ml.wmx

Dial up:

http://www.revradio.org/movies/ml56k.wmx

911- The Road To Tyranny (http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=independent_news&collectionid=911theRoadtoTyranny)

Paineful Deceptions
Painful Deceptions DVD Part 1 (pentagon) (http://reopen911.org/video/painful_deceptions-an_analysis_of_the_911_attack_part1.wmv)
Painful Deceptions DVD Part 2 (building 7 and the two towers) (http://reopen911.org/video/painful_deceptions-an_analysis_of_the_911_attack_part2.wmv)
Painful Deceptions DVD Part 3 (media propaganda) (http://reopen911.org/video/painful_deceptions-an_analysis_of_the_911_attack_part3.wmv)

The Masters of terror
2:00:09
http://thewebfairy.com/video/collected/Mas...ror_128KBps.wmv

911 Truth and Lies 4 parts

http://www.illuminaticonspiracy.org/files/...ndLiesPart1.wmv
http://www.illuminaticonspiracy.org/files/...ndLiesPart2.wmv
http://www.illuminaticonspiracy.org/files/...ndLiesPart3.wmv
http://www.illuminaticonspiracy.org/files/...ndLiesPart4.wmv

Michael Parenti-Terrorism, Globalism and Conspiracy
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti1.wmv
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti2.wmv
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti3.wmv
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti4.wmv
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti5.wmv

Illuminazi 9-11
http://www.nwowatcher.com/downloads/illuminazi.wmv

The Microchip
http://www.nwowatcher.com/downloads/The%20Microchip.wmv

Free ebooks

The Secret Rituals of the O.T.O. (Illuminati, Templars, Freemasons, etc.).pdf (http://www.nwowatcher.com/ebooks/The%20Secret%20Rituals%20of%20the%20O.T.O.%20(Illu minati,%20Templars,%20Freemasons,%20etc.).pdf)
Order Out of Chaos - Paul Joseph Watson (http://www.nwowatcher.com/ebooks/Order%20Out%20of%20Chaos%20-%20By%20Paul%20Joseph%20Watson.pdf)
A Chronological History of the New World Order - Denis Cuddy (http://www.nwowatcher.com/ebooks/Chronological%20History%20of%20The%20New%20World%2 0Order%20-%20By%20Dennis%20Cuddy.pdf)
Conspiracy ebook - The New World Order - Milton William Cooper (http://www.nwowatcher.com/ebooks/conspiracy%20ebook%20-%20New%20World%20Order%20by%20Milton%20William%20C ooper.pdf)
Global Tyranny Step by Step - By WIlliam F. Jasper (http://www.nwowatcher.com/ebooks/Global%20Tyranny%20Step%20By%20Step%20-%20By%20William%20F%20Jasper.pdf)


A shit load more Documentaries and ebooks can be found here (http://www.nwowatcher.com/downloads.html)

I-Legit
06-15-2005, 06:18 PM
IM READ EVERYTHING HERE.......oh i didnt look over it all that

but, Goerge Bushes blood brother owned all of the World Trade Center Buildings..ALL OF THEM...and his contract ENDED on 9/11 and the new owner GOT ALLLLL THE INSURENCE MONEY...........u see GW brother could been helpin hiding somthing..ya know like the bomb placement that blew up to help collapse the buildings....... oh yeh and that insurence guy has to be kept quite...thats why that one building that MYSTERIOUSLY CAUGHT ON FIRE....and later fell.....HE GOT ALL THE INSURENCE MONEY! from ALL WTC BUILDINGS......

TonyStarks29
06-15-2005, 06:24 PM
Haha, I've always found this shit comical.


Wade Digi and me had an argument over this shit when he posted it here like a year ago, I don't feel like having a repeat.

I know it is saddening to you conspiracy theorists, but it was 19 Arabs. Sorry buds.

7EL7
06-15-2005, 06:45 PM
These Videos on the world trade, pentagon, government, etc.... will blow your mind


Gotta Copy paste the links




http://www.dissidents.us/Video (http://www.dissidents.us/Video%20Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv) Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv (http://www.dissidents.us/Video%20Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv)

http://www.dissidents.us/Video Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_2.wmv (http://www.dissidents.us/Video%20Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_2.wmv%20)

http://www.dissidents.us/Video Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_3.wmv (http://www.dissidents.us/Video%20Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_3.wmv)

I-Legit
06-15-2005, 06:47 PM
Haha, I've always found this shit comical.


Wade Digi and me had an argument over this shit when he posted it here like a year ago, I don't feel like having a repeat.

I know it is saddening to you conspiracy theorists, but it was 19 Arabs. Sorry buds. sorry but u have to prove it b4 u have a word in..chea.....

7EL7
06-15-2005, 06:52 PM
Haha, I've always found this shit comical.


Wade Digi and me had an argument over this shit when he posted it here like a year ago, I don't feel like having a repeat.

I know it is saddening to you conspiracy theorists, but it was 19 Arabs. Sorry buds.

you watch those videos i posted i gurantee you'll change your mind quick

LHX
06-15-2005, 07:12 PM
maybe we should stop building towers

i dont know how eager anybody would be to fly a plane into a mud hut

PEACE

Wooly Noggins
06-15-2005, 07:14 PM
its the natural vs. the unnatural

LHX
06-15-2005, 07:16 PM
ric flair?

deadlymelody
06-15-2005, 08:05 PM
Talk about OVERANALYZING.

num2son
06-15-2005, 08:10 PM
Talk about OVERANALYZING.

:learning:

tostones
06-15-2005, 08:33 PM
Peace

Thanks for posting that Sub-Zer0

Liquidswordsman
06-15-2005, 08:34 PM
ric flair?wwwwwooooooooooooo!!!!!

Whats next you going tell me it was the secong plane on the grassy nole that did it? It was not bombs asshole; let just get Freedom Tower up and going and just remember those who died.

Zakius ©
06-15-2005, 09:39 PM
damn... I never even heard about that 3rd building.....

But yeah, I believe it

shit is mighty bold of the government to go to that level tho

7EL7
06-15-2005, 09:53 PM
These Videos on the world trade, pentagon, government, etc.... will blow your mind


Gotta Copy paste the links




http://www.dissidents.us/Video (http://www.dissidents.us/Video%20Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv) Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv (http://www.dissidents.us/Video%20Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv)

http://www.dissidents.us/Video Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_2.wmv (http://www.dissidents.us/Video%20Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_2.wmv%20)

http://www.dissidents.us/Video Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_3.wmv (http://www.dissidents.us/Video%20Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_3.wmv)



AGAIN THESE ARE MUST SEE VIDEOS THAT SUMS UP ALL OF THE ABOVE



Great thread Sub, but its too much at one time to chew

too many videos, too many links at one time

Liquidswordsman
06-15-2005, 10:14 PM
you guys got it ALL figured out! wow

TonyStarks29
06-15-2005, 11:00 PM
maybe we should stop building towers

i dont know how eager anybody would be to fly a plane into a mud hut

PEACE
towers are a necessity to house business.

TonyStarks29
06-15-2005, 11:04 PM
you watch those videos i posted i gurantee you'll change your mind quick
If these videos can change so many minds, how come they are not broadcasted on the leftist media or brought up on independent radio? Why is there not a bigger controversy? There are plenty of high-ranking people in the United States who want to bring it down; yesterday, a democratic senator from Arkansas compared the shit happening in Guantamo to the Holocaust. Ward Churchill, a teacher at Colorado, called the victims of 9/11 "mini-eichmans." there are plenty of people who want to see the united states fall in our own country. if these are so groundbreaking...why haven't they surfaced?

Identity
06-15-2005, 11:32 PM
I've seen all of those before. I would suggest doing more balanced research before posting. That stuff you posted has absolutely no basis in credible journalism. Someone sat down and picked and chose what to tell you. I would take what you find one websites, particularlly conspiracy theory ones, with 100,000 grains of salt.

I. Pentagon Crash

a. Eyewitness testimony
b. Both blackboxes were recovered
c. Remains of all but one passengers were found and identified
d. Plane damaged The Pentagon at least one hundred and fifty feet inwards
e. Plane took out two floors on impact
f. Most of the plane disintigrated upon impact
g. Given forward momentum, what debris there were would be inside the building
h. Debris were found inside
i. Thierry Meyssan, a leftist radical, created this theory
j. Photos show only the roofs of the second and third ring intact, the damage was to lower floors
k. Each side of the Pentagon contains over 100,000 tons of Potomac sand mixed into the steel-reinforced concrete under its limestone facade
l. It had just been reinforced with steel tubes to prevent a collapse after an explosion.

I'd continue, but I don't want to waste any more time on this. Here's a link to some good counter points.

http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm

I really liked this quote: "And we think people who believe they can uncover the truth about anything by surfing the Web are deceiving themselves in a dangerous way." Don't do drugs. Peace.

TonyStarks29
06-15-2005, 11:39 PM
By the way, 7, the second link doesn't work.

TonyStarks29
06-15-2005, 11:42 PM
The first one was pretty entertaining as a whole, but again, this guy is obviously just showing the stuff he wants to show.

He stated George W. Bush went into business in 1976 with a bin Laden; he failed, or rather did not, want to state that Osama has over 50 brothers and sisters.

Ronin
06-16-2005, 03:40 AM
lol the pentagon is a miricle! it desolved a 300 ton plane into nothing after a magical pilot flew it 7 foot off the ground straight into the least populated segment

tony starks is a typical american happy to beloeive their government

"why isnt it broadcast on the media?" y the fuck do u think, your media is government regulated...fox is the most biased shit ever

labeling good evidence as conspiracy theory is laughable

002
06-16-2005, 05:55 AM
i wonder if this system'll ever fall...... and how will the next one look like? .....

002
06-16-2005, 06:09 AM
http://uploadyourimages.com/img/276612illuminati-2.jpg

LHX
06-16-2005, 07:08 AM
towers are a necessity to house business.
if i give you 200 wheel barrows of potatoes for your donkey and two spades

i dont see why we need a 110 storey building

but i may be missing something

Wooly Noggins
06-16-2005, 09:15 AM
If these videos can change so many minds, how come they are not broadcasted on the leftist media or brought up on independent radio? Why is there not a bigger controversy? There are plenty of high-ranking people in the United States who want to bring it down; yesterday, a democratic senator from Arkansas compared the shit happening in Guantamo to the Holocaust. Ward Churchill, a teacher at Colorado, called the victims of 9/11 "mini-eichmans." there are plenty of people who want to see the united states fall in our own country. if these are so groundbreaking...why haven't they surfaced?


LMAO


yall seen resident evil ?

when homeboy (the black man) was saying "how could they do this, they can't do this, it would be all over the phucin news"

same shit

to answer your question yourself
watch the vids and see for yourself why it ain't all over the place

LHX
06-16-2005, 09:29 AM
respect due to everyone who was affected by what went down

but maybe what went down isnt that big of a deal

its like the more important story now is how easy it is to jerk everybody around thru mass communication

its like nobody trusts government anymore
but we still trust sitcoms, pop charts and advertisements

which is all run by the government

PEACE

nobody has any idea about what really went down - it is just like any other event in the public eye
jfk
michael jackson
watergate
oj simpson

Wooly Noggins
06-16-2005, 09:32 AM
they took a natural world and turned it into metal and stone

LHX
06-16-2005, 09:39 AM
they took a natural world and turned it into metal and stone
PEACE

so now we got to learn how to naturally melt and break up the metal and stone

so we can go back to chillin

without people flashing shit in our eyes and playing shit music

PEACE

Wooly Noggins
06-16-2005, 09:43 AM
turning over soil ain't no joke

catch blisters from the shovel handle and stuff

tilling the land is the best work out for man


digging for fresh REAL water



orange juice or orange drink ?

LHX
06-16-2005, 10:05 AM
respect
respect

tilling the land is the ONLY work out for man

cultivate the land

merge with the process
instead of trying to control it

PEACE

orange drink could probably melt metal

002
06-16-2005, 12:32 PM
i don't think we'll ever escape this system

LHX
06-16-2005, 12:36 PM
system is broken

keep on waiting

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 01:14 PM
lol the pentagon is a miricle! it desolved a 300 ton plane into nothing after a magical pilot flew it 7 foot off the ground straight into the least populated segment

tony starks is a typical american happy to beloeive their government

"why isnt it broadcast on the media?" y the fuck do u think, your media is government regulated...fox is the most biased shit ever

labeling good evidence as conspiracy theory is laughable

I was suprised I didn't see you on here by now. It's dumbasses like you that fuel these theories. I remember awhile ago some kids on here said that, that when Bush was elected he would do a government take over then and there, and it was the end of the world or something, and they had "good evidence." Unfortunately, the server crashed, so I can't show the stuff they said, but when I told them what they was shit, they got pissed and said I just don't want to believe the truth. But the inaguration has come and gone, Bush was elected, and I haven't seen our world destroyed. Conspiracy theorists have never come out correct.

My uncle saw the plane crash into the pentagon, and he has suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome. A plane did crash into the Pentagon.

And don't act like you know me Ronin, you don't know shit about me, you act like you know all about me, saying I'm "happy to believe the government." I'm not a fan of Bush , and I have been a staunch opponent to his immigration policies and the way Iraq has been handled. So I'm not "happy to beloieve [sp] [the] government." All your conspiracies are laughable.

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 01:16 PM
if i give you 200 wheel barrows of potatoes for your donkey and two spades

i dont see why we need a 110 storey building

but i may be missing something

There is a lot of business, and there is no more room on the land to make business offices. We don't want to just take-over rural parts of the united states and turn them into cities, so we have no choice but to go up to house the businesses.

7EL7
06-16-2005, 01:17 PM
AGENT !

6thPlanet
06-16-2005, 01:17 PM
"Bush knocked down the towers"

002
06-16-2005, 01:20 PM
Bush is too stupid. he aint shit. hes just a puppet. it's the Illuminati.

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 01:20 PM
AGENT !

7 did you see what I said before? The second link didn't work. Could you re-up it? I watched the first vid and third vid.

6thPlanet
06-16-2005, 01:27 PM
Look out for his wife.

7EL7
06-16-2005, 01:34 PM
i just tried it and it works

just gotta copy paste it into the address bar

002
06-16-2005, 02:19 PM
http://www.dissidents.us/Video (http://www.dissidents.us/Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv) Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv (http://www.dissidents.us/Videos/Martial_Law_1.wmv)

http://www.dissidents.us/Video Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_2.wmv (http://www.dissidents.us/Videos/Martial_Law_2.wmv%20)

http://www.dissidents.us/Video Page/../Videos/Martial_Law_3.wmv

i'm watchin'em right now. i already knew some of this, but the stuff i learned today shits on everything i learned in school for example.... good thing i quit that shit.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 02:41 PM
Alright cool, thanks 7

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 02:53 PM
Haha, I've always found this shit comical.


Wade Digi and me had an argument over this shit when he posted it here like a year ago, I don't feel like having a repeat.

I know it is saddening to you conspiracy theorists, but it was 19 Arabs. Sorry buds.
Yea, eventhough the owner of the WTC buidings admitts he blew it up, and it takes weeks to plants explosives. IT WAS A SUPRISE ATTACK. There' so many of you brainwahsed cats, that are willing to ignore millions of facts to rettain the beliefe you already held. You betta re-read the post BUD.

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 02:55 PM
you watch those videos i posted i gurantee you'll change your mind quick
Indeed, the problems is there's TOO MUCH evidence pointing to govt complicanacy, but Building seven is the smoekign gun you ABSOLUTELY CANNNOT DENY. Thanks for the help bud

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 02:58 PM
wwwwwooooooooooooo!!!!!

Whats next you going tell me it was the secong plane on the grassy nole that did it? It was not bombs asshole; let just get Freedom Tower up and going and just remember those who died.

This is a strawman appeal, this has nothing to do w/ the JFK assassination, and besides that over 90% of Americans believe that there was government involvemnt in JFK's assassination. Nevermind that, you cannot even attack this information, all you can do is attack me, and I love it when you do that, bring it on bud.

7EL7
06-16-2005, 02:58 PM
either they are too blinded with wealth and power to know that they cannot get away with this shit or they don't care because they have something planned for us

002
06-16-2005, 03:01 PM
jkhjkhjkhjkhjk

7EL7
06-16-2005, 03:02 PM
nah
the revolution is fought on many levels

not just guns and tanks

LHX
06-16-2005, 03:03 PM
why plot revolution

when you can plot evolution?

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 03:05 PM
If these videos can change so many minds, how come they are not broadcasted on the leftist media or brought up on independent radio? Why is there not a bigger controversy? There are plenty of high-ranking people in the United States who want to bring it down; yesterday, a democratic senator from Arkansas compared the shit happening in Guantamo to the Holocaust. Ward Churchill, a teacher at Colorado, called the victims of 9/11 "mini-eichmans." there are plenty of people who want to see the united states fall in our own country. if these are so groundbreaking...why haven't they surfaced?\


Cause it's controlled like Crazy, all the media owners, gate keeper organizations, and even the media pressure groups are controlled by the same folks, the media have never been liberal they simply assert that to hide how biased they actually are. Martial Law is so powerful, it could actually cause a regime change, and the lots of people stand to loose from that.



I know you won't watch it but, most media analysist who are not bought off have come to the same conclusions. Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky have said so.


Ever seen the documenatary "The Myth of the Liberal Media"

http://http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6435.htm

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 03:06 PM
If these videos can change so many minds, how come they are not broadcasted on the leftist media or brought up on independent radio? Why is there not a bigger controversy? There are plenty of high-ranking people in the United States who want to bring it down; yesterday, a democratic senator from Arkansas compared the shit happening in Guantamo to the Holocaust. Ward Churchill, a teacher at Colorado, called the victims of 9/11 "mini-eichmans." there are plenty of people who want to see the united states fall in our own country. if these are so groundbreaking...why haven't they surfaced?

This movemnt has about 25 million people behinde it, it's just kept underground because on controlled air waves.

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 03:08 PM
I've seen all of those before. I would suggest doing more balanced research before posting. That stuff you posted has absolutely no basis in credible journalism. Someone sat down and picked and chose what to tell you. I would take what you find one websites, particularlly conspiracy theory ones, with 100,000 grains of salt.

I. Pentagon Crash

a. Eyewitness testimony
b. Both blackboxes were recovered
c. Remains of all but one passengers were found and identified
d. Plane damaged The Pentagon at least one hundred and fifty feet inwards
e. Plane took out two floors on impact
f. Most of the plane disintigrated upon impact
g. Given forward momentum, what debris there were would be inside the building
h. Debris were found inside
i. Thierry Meyssan, a leftist radical, created this theory
j. Photos show only the roofs of the second and third ring intact, the damage was to lower floors
k. Each side of the Pentagon contains over 100,000 tons of Potomac sand mixed into the steel-reinforced concrete under its limestone facade
l. It had just been reinforced with steel tubes to prevent a collapse after an explosion.

I'd continue, but I don't want to waste any more time on this. Here's a link to some good counter points.

http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm

I really liked this quote: "And we think people who believe they can uncover the truth about anything by surfing the Web are deceiving themselves in a dangerous way." Don't do drugs. Peace.


DUDE, Building seven fell down. WITHOUT BEING HIT BY A PLANE, and the Owener admitted it. WHAT MORE DO U WANT?:

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 03:11 PM
The first one was pretty entertaining as a whole, but again, this guy is obviously just showing the stuff he wants to show.

He stated George W. Bush went into business in 1976 with a bin Laden; he failed, or rather did not, want to state that Osama has over 50 brothers and sisters.


Yea and your trusted news sources forgot to tell you that Bin Laden was a former CIA asset, that he'd been in business w/ the Bin Ladens for years, AND that FBI aggents have went public and said the Bushes vaccation w/ the Bin Ladens. There's so much information they don't have time to mention their family members, shoe size, and the length of all their beards.

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 03:12 PM
LMAO


yall seen resident evil ?

when homeboy (the black man) was saying "how could they do this, they can't do this, it would be all over the phucin news"

same shit

to answer your question yourself
watch the vids and see for yourself why it ain't all over the place

GOOD COMPARISON BRO,

people trust media way too much, it's scary

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 03:14 PM
I was suprised I didn't see you on here by now. It's dumbasses like you that fuel these theories. I remember awhile ago some kids on here said that, that when Bush was elected he would do a government take over then and there, and it was the end of the world or something, and they had "good evidence." Unfortunately, the server crashed, so I can't show the stuff they said, but when I told them what they was shit, they got pissed and said I just don't want to believe the truth. But the inaguration has come and gone, Bush was elected, and I haven't seen our world destroyed. Conspiracy theorists have never come out correct.

My uncle saw the plane crash into the pentagon, and he has suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome. A plane did crash into the Pentagon.

And don't act like you know me Ronin, you don't know shit about me, you act like you know all about me, saying I'm "happy to believe the government." I'm not a fan of Bush , and I have been a staunch opponent to his immigration policies and the way Iraq has been handled. So I'm not "happy to beloieve [sp] [the] government." All your conspiracies are laughable.

DUDE, SHUT UP


The owner admitted he blew up building seven it wasaan't hit by a plane, IT FELL DOWN IN seven fricking secconds. DO U BELIEVE BUILDIGNS FALL OVER ON THEIR OWN, just beacsuse the government tells you.

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 03:17 PM
Alright if you wanna be cool, no net beef, I'm a peacful guy, but this shit is serious. Stay up my peoples

Identity
06-16-2005, 03:28 PM
There are way too many crazy people on this site. I can't believe all of you would fall for such a ridiculous idea. Why don't you guys read some actual journalism, not something some nutback leftist radical made-up off of the top of his head. I'm with you TonyStarks29. If some of these people stopped doing drugs, mabye they'd be able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

7EL7
06-16-2005, 03:40 PM
AGENT !

002
06-16-2005, 03:54 PM
There are way too many crazy people on this site. I can't believe all of you would fall for such a ridiculous idea. Why don't you guys read some actual journalism, not something some nutback leftist radical made-up off of the top of his head. I'm with you TonyStarks29. If some of these people stopped doing drugs, mabye they'd be able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
you're right, you gotta stop doin drugs, son. :)

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 04:12 PM
This is a strawman appeal, this has nothing to do w/ the JFK assassination, and besides that over 90% of Americans believe that there was government involvemnt in JFK's assassination. Nevermind that, you cannot even attack this information, all you can do is attack me, and I love it when you do that, bring it on bud.
i am shaking in my boots, ur an idoit searching for an answer not there. Its true i attacked u and not the 'information' cause i have seen the real facts and ur 'information' is wack. Sub-Zer0 if u want peace thats fine, but u cant come out and say something this crazy and expect people to not attack you; let their memories live on and lets get the building put back up.

I cannot believe that u think the media is holding this information from us. Get your head out the internet and come back to reality

wwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Identity
06-16-2005, 04:16 PM
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent."

NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

How about you guys do some actual research. Seriously. Why don't you go to your local University and talk to an engineer or something. Pick up a phone and call the people who measured the "explosion". Here's what they said:

"There is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers," Lerner-Lam tells PM. "That representation of our work is categorically incorrect and not in context."

On that graph, the 8- and 10-second collapses appear--misleadingly--as a pair of sudden spikes. Lamont-Doherty's 40-second plot of the same data (Graph 2) gives a much more detailed picture: The seismic waves--blue for the South Tower, red for the North Tower--start small and then escalate as the buildings rumble to the ground. Translation: no bombs.

The owner admitted he blew up building seven it wasaan't hit by a plane, IT FELL DOWN IN seven fricking secconds. DO U BELIEVE BUILDIGNS FALL OVER ON THEIR OWN, just beacsuse the government tells you.No I believe the plane crash was the first chain in why they fell, because I understand basic physics, actually do a little research, am not gulible, and have a good head on my shoulders. Why don't you read what they later found out about that collapse:

"On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

I don't know, mabye it feel because 1/4 of its support structure was missing?

In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 04:39 PM
i am shaking in my boots, ur an idoit searching for an answer not there. Its true i attacked u and not the 'information' cause i have seen the real facts and ur 'information' is wack. Sub-Zer0 if u want peace thats fine, but u cant come out and say something this crazy and expect people to not attack you; let their memories live on and lets get the building put back up.

I cannot believe that u think the media is holding this information from us. Get your head out the internet and come back to reality

wwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

DAMN SON, are you THAT trusting of the government and mass media? You need to study history more. Forget everything else you just said? I don't have enough time to counter you and everyone else not willing to look at evidence.

LARRY SILVERSTINE ADMITS TO BLOWING UP BUILDING SEVEN, IT WASANM'T HIT BY A PLANE! ARE YOU SAYING IT WAS NOT BLOWN UP? ANSWER

Ronin
06-16-2005, 05:04 PM
no offence but y when u dont take what we say into account should we beleive your theories on the 9/11 attack and when PROFESSIONAL physicists and building experts agree the towers fell like they were imploded and building 7nwas pulled because of a small fire which is silversteins excuse

tony starks, i dont beleive u about your uncle....sorry but if that was true u wouldve dropped the shit way earlier

at least more people are waking up, even if some are still set in their ways

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 05:11 PM
I am NOT trusting of media or the government, but in this instance i am going to believe the media cannot cover up something this big. And how do u think i should study history if the media writes the history of this world? the world would LOVE to see America fall and if there was ANY real evidence to help this they would take it and run. No the building was not blown up, u are an idoit that probly will start a thread about how man never landed on the moon cause there is a breeze in the flag. Look man what u think is what u think, all i am trying to say is that the world puts a microscope on us and what we do, so if we would have fucked up and blown up our own shit they would have call us out on it. Is Larry Silverstine going to jail for admitting he blew up the building, cause if hes not i dont think u have much to stand on.

'Who the fuck knocked our buildings down?
Who the man behind the World Trade massacres, step up now'

step up Silverstine!!!!!!
WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

002
06-16-2005, 05:28 PM
DAMN SON, are you THAT trusting of the government and mass media? You need to study history more. Forget everything else you just said? I don't have enough time to counter you and everyone else not willing to look at evidence.

LARRY SILVERSTINE ADMITS TO BLOWING UP BUILDING SEVEN, IT WASANM'T HIT BY A PLANE! ARE YOU SAYING IT WAS NOT BLOWN UP? ANSWER
stop wastin ya time w/ these fags. you did a good job. keep postin this shit on other sites instead of fuckin w/ these virgin kids.

Wooly Noggins
06-16-2005, 06:06 PM
FROM THE FAMOUS WORDS OF ......................



"CAN'T TRUSS IT"




WHO'S DEALING CRACK

Did you know the average drug dealer makes minimum wage? It's the producers and growers that make all the real money. I wasn't able to see the video, but if this is about the CIA dealing crack, you guys have got to wake up from you fantasies. Stop doing drugs.

Who sells drugs? The majority are lazy, drug addicted, unresponsible, poor people who can't hold a regular job, and they still only make minimum wage.


THE OCCULT NATURE OF THE SEALS

The best explaination I can think of, for people believing these crazy ideas, and believing these wacked out websites, is that they are doing drugs and have lost all sense of reality.


THE TRUTH ABOUT 911 GUTTING THE DISINFORMATION, A MEGA THREAD

There are way too many crazy people on this site. I can't believe all of you would fall for such a ridiculous idea. Why don't you guys read some actual journalism, not something some nutback leftist radical made-up off of the top of his head. I'm with you TonyStarks29. If some of these people stopped doing drugs, mabye they'd be able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

WHATS YOUR IDENTITY

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 06:10 PM
no offence but y when u dont take what we say into account should we beleive your theories on the 9/11 attack and when PROFESSIONAL physicists and building experts agree the towers fell like they were imploded and building 7nwas pulled because of a small fire which is silversteins excuse

tony starks, i dont beleive u about your uncle....sorry but if that was true u wouldve dropped the shit way earlier

at least more people are waking up, even if some are still set in their ways
where could I have dropped it? Man, I'm not bullshitting. I didn't feel the need to b/s at the time. Why won't you believe me? Is it because you want your theory to be true?

Well my uncle, he's a big italian dude. like, 250 lbs. he's a chef in a federal prison in dc. he lives like 20 minutes outside of DC is Rockland, Maryland. He was walking down the street in DC after he got out a taxi near the pentagon. he heard something, so he looked up. he saw a plane flying low, and followed it with his eyes. it then crashed into the pentagon.

He's better now, but for a few months, he was shit. he lost like 70 lbs, he was depressed, he went to a psychatrist for a while, and was checked into a mental ward for a short while.

I find it offensive that you think I would lie about something to prove my point- I believe in the truth, and I won't make shit up to prove my point. It's unkind for you to think I'd lie about some shit like PTSS to prove my point.

But it does prove my point anyhow-my uncle saw a plane crash into the Pentagon. I would give you his email or something if you wanted it, but he goes introverted when he's asked about it.

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 06:13 PM
where could I have dropped it? Man, I'm not bullshitting. I didn't feel the need to b/s at the time. Why won't you believe me? Is it because you want your theory to be true?

Well my uncle, he's a big italian dude. like, 250 lbs. he's a chef in a federal prison in dc. he lives like 20 minutes outside of DC is Rockland, Maryland. He was walking down the street in DC after he got out a taxi near the pentagon. he heard something, so he looked up. he saw a plane flying low, and followed it with his eyes. it then crashed into the pentagon.

He's better now, but for a few months, he was shit. he lost like 70 lbs, he was depressed, he went to a psychatrist for a while, and was checked into a mental ward for a short while.

I find it offensive that you think I would lie about something to prove my point- I believe in the truth, and I won't make shit up to prove my point. It's unkind for you to think I'd lie about some shit like PTSS to prove my point.

But it does prove my point anyhow-my uncle saw a plane crash into the Pentagon. I would give you his email or something if you wanted it, but he goes introverted when he's asked about it.
sorry to hear that shit man

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 06:29 PM
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent."

NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

How about you guys do some actual research. Seriously. Why don't you go to your local University and talk to an engineer or something. Pick up a phone and call the people who measured the "explosion". Here's what they said:

"There is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers," Lerner-Lam tells PM. "That representation of our work is categorically incorrect and not in context."

On that graph, the 8- and 10-second collapses appear--misleadingly--as a pair of sudden spikes. Lamont-Doherty's 40-second plot of the same data (Graph 2) gives a much more detailed picture: The seismic waves--blue for the South Tower, red for the North Tower--start small and then escalate as the buildings rumble to the ground. Translation: no bombs.

No I believe the plane crash was the first chain in why they fell, because I understand basic physics, actually do a little research, am not gulible, and have a good head on my shoulders. Why don't you read what they later found out about that collapse:

"On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

I don't know, mabye it feel because 1/4 of its support structure was missing?

In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."That popular mechanics is a compltete strawman argument, IT's BOGUS , WE HAVE RIPPED IT APPART, FIRST TIME I READ IT I LAUGHED OUT LOUD AND FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR. FIRE DOESEN'T BRING BUILDIGNS DOWN LIKE THAT, these enginners are bought and paid for, just like the scientist in the tobbaco trials that said it was not actually bad for you. Gullble? Ha Ha. haha.

FIRST OF ALL, those fires were practically out, the firemen are on reccord saying that,

THERE'S PHOTOS OF PEOPLE STANDING IN THE BUILDING, in the open wound where the plane impact struck. If the fires are so intense that the can melt througbh steel, how can they stand there and barbeque marshmallows.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/170105woman1.jpg




http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/170105woman.jpg


WTC has the biggest support columns of any buildling ever constrcucted, it was actually designed to withstand multiple boeing impacts, the man who made the towers personally said it it could have withstood multiple boeing impacts. Not only had a highrise building never fallen down from heat damage before, but the only things that have destroyed a building like this are explosives and earth quakes.


But never mind that, Building seven was blown up, the owner addmitted it. HE SAID "WE PULLED THE BUILDING!"

The demolition term for it,

So first of all the PM explanation is noticablt contradictory to what he said on PBS.

You're saying that building seven had it's bottom columns destroyed? WELL, building seven was not even in the debris feild of the towers, it wasan't hit by a plane, Banker's trust, had peices of debris from tower one FALL ONTO IT, but just reciveved light damage. There were several other buildings much closer to the towers than buiding seven. WHY DIDN'T THEY FALL DOWN AND LOOK EXACTLY LIKE CONTROLED DEMOLITION?

Not only that.


But
American airlines flight 11 crashed into tower one at 8:45 am, Flight 175 crashed into Tower two at 9:03 am, building seven was not demolished until 5:25 PM.

This is a full EIGHT HOURS after the two initial strikes, this methoically smashes your shockwave and debris damage theroy of building sevens collapse to rubble, Shockwave and debris would not have cause controlled demoliton like damage to the building anyhow. But The owner already admitted he blew it up. whatever a lot of you cats are allergic to facts, pure sheep, and overall a waste of my time. 1

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 06:35 PM
That popular mechanics is a compltete strawman argument, IT's BOGUS , WE HAVE RIPPED IT APPART, FIRST TIME I READ IT I LAUGHED OUT LOUD AND FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR. FIRE DOESEN'T BRING BUILDIGNS DOWN LIKE THAT, these enginners are bought and paid for, just like the scientist in the tobbaco trials that said it was not actually bad for you. Gullble? Ha Ha. haha.

FIRST OF ALL, those fires were practically out, the firemen are on reccord saying that,

THERE'S PHOTOS OF PEOPLE STANDING IN THE BUILDING, in the open wound where the plane impact struck. If the fires are so intense that the can melt througbh steel, how can they stand there and barbeque marshmallows.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/170105woman1.jpg




http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/170105woman.jpg


WTC has the biggest support columns of any buildling ever constrcucted, it was actually designed to withstand multiple boeing impacts, the man who made the towers personally said it it could have withstood multiple boeing impacts. Not only had a highrise building never fallen down from heat damage before, but the only things that have destroyed a building like this are explosives and earth quakes.


But never mind that, Building seven was blown up, the owner addmitted it. HE SAID "WE PULLED THE BUILDING!"

The demolition term for it,

So first of all the PM explanation is noticablt contradictory to what he said on PBS.

You're saying that building seven had it's bottom columns destroyed? WELL, building seven was not even in the debris feild of the towers, it wasan't hit by a plane, Banker's trust, had peices of debris from tower one FALL ONTO IT, but just reciveved light damage.

Not only that.


But
American airlines flight 11 crashed into tower one at 8:45 am, Flight 175 crashed into Tower two at 9:03 am, building seven was not demolished until 5:25 PM.

This is a full EIGHT HOURS after the two initial strikes, this methoically smashes your shockwave and debris damage theroy of building sevens collapse to rubble, Shockwave and debris would cause controlled demoliton damage to the building anyhow. The owner already admitted he blew it up. whatever a lot of you cats are allergic to facts, pure sheep, and overall a waste of my time. 1


I cant wait until u get this information to the authorities u are going to be famous!
Good work! Shit happens, buildings fall, things are mathmaticly unexplainable, but there is NO FUCKING WAY we did this to ourselves

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 06:36 PM
where could I have dropped it? Man, I'm not bullshitting. I didn't feel the need to b/s at the time. Why won't you believe me? Is it because you want your theory to be true?

Well my uncle, he's a big italian dude. like, 250 lbs. he's a chef in a federal prison in dc. he lives like 20 minutes outside of DC is Rockland, Maryland. He was walking down the street in DC after he got out a taxi near the pentagon. he heard something, so he looked up. he saw a plane flying low, and followed it with his eyes. it then crashed into the pentagon.

He's better now, but for a few months, he was shit. he lost like 70 lbs, he was depressed, he went to a psychatrist for a while, and was checked into a mental ward for a short while.

I find it offensive that you think I would lie about something to prove my point- I believe in the truth, and I won't make shit up to prove my point. It's unkind for you to think I'd lie about some shit like PTSS to prove my point.

But it does prove my point anyhow-my uncle saw a plane crash into the Pentagon. I would give you his email or something if you wanted it, but he goes introverted when he's asked about it.\


This isn't my theory, and I wish it were not true, but if you actually viewed the information w/ some level of objectiivty you would realize it's true. IT'S NOT A THEORY IF YOU CAN PROOVE IT BUD

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 06:38 PM
I cant wait until u get this information to the authorities u are going to be famous!
Good work! Shit happens, buildings fall, things are mathmaticly unexplainable, but there is NO FUCKING WAY we did this to ourselves

LOL, yea buildings fall all the time for no reason. AND the skies rain pink flamingos. The laws of physics will be suspeneded before the government kills it's own people.
This is ubbelivable, they blow up building seven, the owner ADMITS it, AND I'm CRAZY WHEN HE SAYS IT ON TELEVSIOSN. ABSOULTELY AMAZING!!!!

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 06:41 PM
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This isn't my theory, and I wish it were not true, but if you actually viewed the information w/ some level of objectiivty you would realize it's true. IT'S NOT A THEORY IF YOU CAN PROOVE IT BUD
i viewed it with objectivity, and have come to the conclusion that it is, in fact, a conspiracy theory. Every conspiracy theory has had some complex means of proving it's correctness. They all have said they have been proved to be true, but they're still theories. Sorry, Bud.

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 06:45 PM
LOL, yea buildings fall all the time for no reason. AND the skies rain pink flamingos. The laws of physics will be suspeneded before the government kills it's own people.
This is ubbelivable, they blow up building seven, the owner ADMITS it, AND I'm CRAZY WHEN HE SAYS IT ON TELEVSIOSN. ABSOULTELY AMAZING!!!!
Why is the owner not in SERIOUS trouble?

You HAVE to understand why ur 'facts' are not believable

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 06:46 PM
i viewed it with objectivity, and have come to the conclusion that it is, in fact, a conspiracy theory. Every conspiracy theory has had some complex means of proving it's correctness. They all have said they have been proved to be true, but they're still theories. Sorry, Bud.

This is a fallacy as to saying that every single suposed "conspiracy theory" is the same, this is like saying, no group of people are cabale of commiting a crime together, or no governments has willingly done bad things to their people to further and end.

Look at history, it's riddiled w/ things JUST LIKE THIS HAPPENEING!!!

This is the most garbage form of logic I have ever heard in my life, it does not make a penny of sense.

See, you cannot even respond to the inforamtion I throw in your face you just sterotype it all as conspiracy theories and attack it in a strawman form.

AGAIN I WILL SAY.

SILVERSTINE ADMITTED HE BLEW UP THE BUILDING, AND YOU STILL SAY IT WAS NOT BLOWN UP. HE FUCKING ADMITEDD IT, WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE WORD ADMIT ::BITCH SLAP::

HE ADMITED HE BLEW IT UP, RESPOND TO THAT, instead of making stupid arguments about how all conspiarcy theoies are the same.


HE fucking admitted he blew the building up retard, what do you have to say to that.

no more side stepping questions

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 06:50 PM
Why is the owner not in SERIOUS trouble?

You HAVE to understand why ur 'facts' are not believable

Becuase a lot of people are in on this, 90% of the system is sold out, if you would have actually read my post you would understand a lot better. Tons of people got warnings not to fly on 911, tons of insider trading went on, at least 18 countries told us of the emminent attack .

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 06:58 PM
Becuase a lot of people are in on this, 90% of the system is sold out, if you would have actually read my post you would understand a lot better. Tons of people got warnings not to fly on 911, tons of insider trading went on, at least 18 countries told us of the emminent attack .
we got warnings all the time about possible attacks. I agree the goverment messed up, but this shit caught us for guard (which is our fault). Tons of insider trading goes on daily, so that is out.
If a man blew his shit up on 9/11 in ground zero a lot more people would have caught on.

"HE fucking admitted he blew the building up retard, what do you have to say to that.", just one man blows up a building........damn his is amazing!!!!!

Sub-Zer0
06-16-2005, 07:09 PM
we got warnings all the time about possible attacks. I agree the goverment messed up, but this shit caught us for guard (which is our fault). Tons of insider trading goes on daily, so that is out.
If a man blew his shit up on 9/11 in ground zero a lot more people would have caught on.

"HE fucking admitted he blew the building up retard, what do you have to say to that.", just one man blows up a building........damn his is amazing!!!!!Dude, LOOK AT THE FUCKING INFORMATION, instead of just telling me it can't happen, fuck here's the video of it falling,

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif


WHAT IS MAKING THIS BUILDING FALL??



He already admitted he blew it up, what more do you want?

You're just saying, "no, the building will fall over from wind turbulence, before human hands are behinde it"

THERE IS SIMPLY NO OTHER POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR IT, and he admitted he blew it up.


Whateva, I'm done w/ yall


But anyone who knows the truth, knows you guys are sheep, and I systematically ripped every one of your arguments to fragments. I've ripped other cats who were way way more clever than yall. But some people just can't get this, I hope my post helped some of yall, I'm out, say what u want


peace

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 07:18 PM
This is a fallacy as to saying that every single suposed "conspiracy theory" is the same, this is like saying, no group of people are cabale of commiting a crime together, or no governments has willingly done bad things to their people to further and end.

Look at history, it's riddiled w/ things JUST LIKE THIS HAPPENEING!!!

This is the most garbage form of logic I have ever heard in my life, it does not make a penny of sense.

See, you cannot even respond to the inforamtion I throw in your face you just sterotype it all as conspiracy theories and attack it in a strawman form.

AGAIN I WILL SAY.

SILVERSTINE ADMITTED HE BLEW UP THE BUILDING, AND YOU STILL SAY IT WAS NOT BLOWN UP. HE FUCKING ADMITEDD IT, WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE WORD ADMIT ::BITCH SLAP::

HE ADMITED HE BLEW IT UP, RESPOND TO THAT, instead of making stupid arguments about how all conspiarcy theoies are the same.


HE fucking admitted he blew the building up retard, what do you have to say to that.

no more side stepping questions
Man, you need to settle the fuck down. You even went so far as to e-bitch slap me.

You know, anyone can admit they blew it up. Okay, I give in; I blew up the Twin Towers!

Do you believe me simply because I say I admit it?



And I'm sorry that me not believing your conspiracy theory is getting you all angered. I don't see how calling me a retard accomplishes anything.

And don't try to twist what I said. where did i say that all conspriacy theories are the same?

No where.

I said all conspiracy theories claim to have information that is "obviously believable." Yours is no different in that aspect.

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 07:20 PM
And I don't think calling us "retards" is "systematically ripping [our] arguments to shreds."

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 07:22 PM
Dude, LOOK AT THE FUCKING INFORMATION, instead of just telling me it can't happen, fuck here's the video of it falling,

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif


WHAT IS MAKING THIS BUILDING FALL??



He already admitted he blew it up, what more do you want?

You're just saying, "no, the building will fall over from wind turbulence, before human hands are behinde it"

THERE IS SIMPLY NO OTHER POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR IT, and he admitted he blew it up.


Whateva, I'm done w/ yall


But anyone who knows the truth, knows you guys are sheep, and I systematically ripped every one of your arguments to fragments. I've ripped other cats who were way way more clever than yall. But some people just can't get this, I hope my post helped some of yall, I'm out, say what u want


peace
Larry "pulled" the building cause it had to happen. there was allready enough death and it had to happen, but not because he was part of the shit!

LMAO........Peace!!!!

triggahappy187
06-16-2005, 08:17 PM
Its sad cuz our gov't is fucked up an theres nothin we can do bout it its corrupt they lied bout the moon landing an now they fuckin up again on us.

Identity
06-16-2005, 10:04 PM
Sub-Zero, you're using the same source over and over and over again. It's the same thing as in all the other threads.

50,000 scientists, architects, people in the industry, investigators, policemen, detectives, newpapers, articles, journalist investigations, and a myriad of other literature and media say that the tower fell due to the plane, and 1 nutbag leftist conspiracy theorist says that it was blown up. Now who am I to believe? Wait...let me think about it for a second...

TonyStarks29
06-16-2005, 11:18 PM
Sub-Zero, you're using the same source over and over and over again. It's the same thing as in all the other threads.

50,000 scientists, architects, people in the industry, investigators, policemen, detectives, newpapers, articles, journalist investigations, and a myriad of other literature and media say that the tower fell due to the plane, and 1 nutbag leftist conspiracy theorist says that it was blown up. Now who am I to believe? Wait...let me think about it for a second...
thats a good point.

Liquidswordsman
06-16-2005, 11:46 PM
Still LMAO!!!!!!!!!

T.H.O.M.A.S. Man
06-17-2005, 12:03 AM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/170105woman.jpgkinda looks like osama.. i say we arrest all the towelhead cab drivers in the city and question them to see if they know him.

honestly though, this seems like a fairly strong arguement unless someone can tellme why it's wrong. how could the fire have burned hot enough to collapse the building if this person is standing there between crash and the collapse?

and even if it was burning why would it telescope the way it did? the bottom floors werent burning..

i just dont know what to believe

Wooly Noggins
06-17-2005, 01:40 AM
Why is the owner not in SERIOUS trouble?

You HAVE to understand why ur 'facts' are not believable why do you think that the government won't do things like this to their own people ?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif

this building fell alot like the towers did, this is an implosion
its said that "Larry" bought the towers not to long before
if he really did than he is extra extra rich from the insurance money he's recieving.

if you look closely at the towers, it was imploded using explosives that were planted in the middle of the building check out how the building fell

most just wanna disagree without really understanding what it really is they disagree about

2 planes would not be able to disintergrate those great big buildings like that

nothing was left standing at all, implosions do that, not planes

most who disagree with that really do not understand how huge and strong these buildings really are
i've been to the world trade buildings, they are huge


i ask yall who disagree and say that this is just conspiracy theories, do you think that the media is telling the story correctly ?

Sub-Zer0
06-17-2005, 02:40 AM
Man, you need to settle the fuck down. You even went so far as to e-bitch slap me.

You know, anyone can admit they blew it up. Okay, I give in; I blew up the Twin Towers!

Do you believe me simply because I say I admit it?



And I'm sorry that me not believing your conspiracy theory is getting you all angered. I don't see how calling me a retard accomplishes anything.

And don't try to twist what I said. where did i say that all conspriacy theories are the same?

No where.

I said all conspiracy theories claim to have information that is "obviously believable." Yours is no different in that aspect.
Sorry man, I guess your scope of the world does not allow you to see the importance of this event, that's okay there's a lot of people like you out there, that no matter what the see simply will not wake up.

If the owner of the WTC says he blew it up on televission, and tthe buildinding falls down on it's own, yes I believe it was demolished. As I stated before the ONLY things that have taken High rise buildings like this down, have been earthquakes and contolled demolition. In fact out of 100 uncontrolled fires, never has fire ever once taken a building down.

Think about this,,


You're argueing w/ me that buildings can fall down on their own, and if the owner admits it and even if theres no possible other explanation you still argue w/ it if it leads to govt involvement. what is that? Are you one of those people who thinks the government is all good, and never does anything bad?

Sub-Zer0
06-17-2005, 02:44 AM
Larry "pulled" the building cause it had to happen. there was allready enough death and it had to happen, but not because he was part of the shit!

LMAO........Peace!!!!


Man I can't believe I find so many people like this on Wu-tang sites. There is NO WAY, you can wire explosives in matter of hours, it takes months, weeks at the bare minimum.


So

LMFAO peace

Sub-Zer0
06-17-2005, 02:45 AM
Its sad cuz our gov't is fucked up an theres nothin we can do bout it its corrupt they lied bout the moon landing an now they fuckin up again on us.

I work w/ things I can proove, could be.

Sub-Zer0
06-17-2005, 02:56 AM
Sub-Zero, you're using the same source over and over and over again. It's the same thing as in all the other threads.

50,000 scientists, architects, people in the industry, investigators, policemen, detectives, newpapers, articles, journalist investigations, and a myriad of other literature and media say that the tower fell due to the plane, and 1 nutbag leftist conspiracy theorist says that it was blown up. Now who am I to believe? Wait...let me think about it for a second...

50,000 scientists is a huge exageration, that is not true. Many of the architects and engineers have ledt due to the junk sciene used on the towers. The journalists get their information from government inteligence. TONS of people have said said this Micheal Meacher and George Galloway to British members of Parilement. Andre Van Beulous the German minister of Defense equivalent to national security advisor, Cynthia Mckinney US Rep, David Ray Griffin, Jack Blood, and a fucking host of others.

Many journalists, engineneers, and doctors have been paid for, the meida is complteltly notorious.

Quit letting what is said on TV make up your mind for you, be skepical, at least it shows you still have a mind, but don't be blind. THere's is NO WAY those towers fell from fire, all the evidence is there. But aside from that, there's is really nothing u can say about building seven, it was blown up, admitted, and could have been done in such short notice. THere' s 600 other points like, NORAD standing down, drilss being ran the morning of 911 compltely mirroring the event, or the Hi-Jackers being still alive. I can already tell how your guy's minds work, and you will right all of those points right off, so I'm sticking to this which cannot be refuted, but you're seeming like the compltely brains washed type that will shove off any amount of information in order to maintain what you already believe, now this is scary when you considier this obbjective


But I'm running out steam

what else

zzzzzz
06-17-2005, 03:02 AM
Thanks

zzzzzz
06-17-2005, 03:03 AM
I feel better now.

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 05:26 AM
There are way too many crazy people on this site. I can't believe all of you would fall for such a ridiculous idea. Why don't you guys read some actual journalism, not something some nutback leftist radical made-up off of the top of his head. I'm with you TonyStarks29. If some of these people stopped doing drugs, mabye they'd be able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.I cannot see a Boeing 757 but the media have told you its there. Where is the Boeing? You would have to be on drugs to see a Boeing in this set of frames.

http://0911.site.voila.fr/pentanimorig.gif


Listen to this CNN reporter who was one of the first on the scene

http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/27_1-mcintyre.swf

zzzzzz
06-17-2005, 05:32 AM
Yall getting brainwashed like this.

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 05:35 AM
Yall getting brainwashed like this.
Yeah, the media likes to brainwash but its a days work

zzzzzz
06-17-2005, 05:42 AM
dumb fucks

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 06:53 AM
Rumsfeld made a slip up with the comment below. He later said it was a mistake but this seems like a Freudian slip.

Q:
This is a question that's been asked by many Americans, but especially by the widows of September 11th. How were we so asleep at the switch? How did a war targeting civilians arrive on our homeland with seemingly no warning?

~ Rumsfeld: There were lots of warnings. The intelligence information that we get, it sometimes runs into the hundreds of alerts or pieces of intelligence a week. One looks at the worldwide, it's thousands. And the task is to sort through it and see what you can find. And as you find things, the law enforcement officials who have the responsibility to deal with that type of thing -- the FBI at the federal level, and although it is not, it's an investigative service as opposed to a police force, it's not a federal police force, as you know. But the state and local law enforcement officials have the responsibility for dealing with those kinds of issues.

They (find a lot) and any number of terrorist efforts have been dissuaded, deterred or stopped by good intelligence gathering and good preventive work. It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html

Wooly Noggins
06-17-2005, 07:32 AM
"an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center."

with all the technology they have, they could not see something as big as a 747 flying so close to the pentagon, and in enough time shoot it down before it hit ?


lets look at the vid again


http://0911.site.voila.fr/pentanimorig.gif


if you can find for me a plane in this video, i'll eat my PC screen




and !

what is that very bright light in the sky on the last frame ?

http://img77.echo.cx/img77/8317/pentanimorig457je.jpg



but hold up yo !

there is one frame missing, frame 2, where is it ?

it goes 19,21,22,23

wheres 20 ?



but even still, i'm shure the security of the pentagon has cameras watching the sky and all points of the area.

why hasn't there been a video showing the plane hitting the building, like they showed 2 hitting the world trade ?

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 07:43 AM
If you have not watched this short flash movie about 9-11 then I recommend you do. Its very interesting.

http://www.livingstonemusic.net/pentagon.htm#Main

Wooly Noggins
06-17-2005, 07:47 AM
i've seen it more than 3 times

how did you get that vid clip though

there is 1 second missing from it that i do want to see

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 07:49 AM
there is 1 second missing from it that i do want to see
This has been left out for a reason. Probably has something in it they dont want you to see.

7EL7
06-17-2005, 07:57 AM
This has been left out for a reason. Probably has something in it they dont want you to see. yeah, maby like a missile from a craft in the sky

THE W
06-17-2005, 08:18 AM
some of you guys are just choosing to be ignorant.

yes, a plane flew into the world trade center near the top of the building. but there is no way in heaven or hell that a building collapses on itself from fire damage. every floor of that building fell down simultaniously. for fire damage to do that every floor of that building would have had to been burning at the same temperature and that was not the case. only the top of the building was smoking and at the most you would seen the top of the building tople leaving the bottom half of the building which was not on fire still standing.

lets not forget as sub-zero has stated several times here that WTC 7 WAS NOT HIT BY A PLANE AND IT CALLAPSED IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE ONE HIT. how do you explain that? debris are not going to make a building implode.

this really isnt that hard to figure out, unless you're just choosing to believe the "super fire" theory.

THE W
06-17-2005, 08:24 AM
and as someone already mentioned here, bush didnt have shit to do with this. he is merely a figurehead who takin all the heat and reaping the benefits of this disaster along with those who actually orchistrated it.

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 08:57 AM
Can anybody provide evidence that a Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon?

Saying that an uncle or someone saw the plane does not count because there are eye witnesses saying that they did not see a Boeing but a smaller jet and heard a sound like a missile. Some did not see a plane at all but heard the noise of a missile/plane. Which set of witnesses should we believe.

Queen Bee
06-17-2005, 11:09 AM
Wait... SO wait was this Bush's way to advance us into war?

THE W
06-17-2005, 11:12 AM
bush didnt plan shit he's just following orders.

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:14 AM
Sorry man, I guess your scope of the world does not allow you to see the importance of this event, that's okay there's a lot of people like you out there, that no matter what the see simply will not wake up.

If the owner of the WTC says he blew it up on televission, and tthe buildinding falls down on it's own, yes I believe it was demolished. As I stated before the ONLY things that have taken High rise buildings like this down, have been earthquakes and contolled demolition. In fact out of 100 uncontrolled fires, never has fire ever once taken a building down.

Think about this,,


You're argueing w/ me that buildings can fall down on their own, and if the owner admits it and even if theres no possible other explanation you still argue w/ it if it leads to govt involvement. what is that? Are you one of those people who thinks the government is all good, and never does anything bad?


My scope of the world. HA. Like you know me. What makes YOU have a larger scope of the world?

I know government is evil a lot of the time; I'm for minimalist gov't. If he went on television and admitted it, why isn't he incarcerated!?!?!?

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:15 AM
Can anybody provide evidence that a Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon?

Saying that an uncle or someone saw the plane does not count because there are eye witnesses saying that they did not see a Boeing but a smaller jet and heard a sound like a missile. Some did not see a plane at all but heard the noise of a missile/plane. Which set of witnesses should we believe.
Well, my uncle saw it, and its not like he would suffer Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome from nothing, man. He saw a plane, and that's the end of it.

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 11:16 AM
There is not any evidence to point the finger directly at Bush but questions have to asked as to who benefited mostly from 9-11.

A fact of the matter is that 9-11 did not happen the way the media and government have portrayed.

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 11:19 AM
Well, my uncle saw it, and its not like he would suffer Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome from nothing, man. He saw a plane, and that's the end of it.
Well, I have heard and seen a number of witnesses that did not see a Boeing 757.

I would rather believe what I see with my eyes

What do you see TonyStarks29

http://0911.site.voila.fr/pentanimorig.gif

Queen Bee
06-17-2005, 11:20 AM
I understand that this is all debtable... So who's orders would he be following? I'm starting to hate america. Do people just sit down and decide what innocent people are we killing today and how are we going to gain? This reminds me of how aids was started, why does all of this stuff always go overlooked by the public? Hmmm I guess America isn't as free and safe as we all think and were not at all better than any dictorship that we've helped bring down. (<Ok we are, but still!)

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:23 AM
Well, I have heard and seen a number of witnesses that did not see a Boeing 757.

I would rather believe what I see with my eyes

What do you see TonyStarks29

http://0911.site.voila.fr/pentanimorig.gif

I see an explosion. DId you consider that this film reel started AFTER the boeing hit the building? It takes a moment, a very small one, for a complete combustion to occur after a plane full of gas hits something. This reel could have been taken the moment after the plane hit it.

Where did you get this anyway? Is it official?

Peace

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 11:26 AM
You can clearly see the swoosh of an object prior impact.

This is the only official footage of the Pentagon attack that the government released.

Can you see a plane yet?

Queen Bee
06-17-2005, 11:27 AM
couldn't the plane have hit from an angle we can't see?

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 11:29 AM
couldn't the plane have hit from an angle we can't see?
This is the angle the object hit the Pentagon

http://www.ifrance.fr/silentbutdeadly/pentagonxox.jpg

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:30 AM
Tronix, where is the "swoosh of an object?" Could you point that out? I can't see it. Thanks.


Peace

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 11:31 AM
Tronix, where is the "swoosh of an object?" Could you point that out? I can't see it. Thanks.


PeaceLOL, its pretty clear in the first frames.

Maybe if I slow it down you can see it better

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/cctv/pentani.gif

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:32 AM
LOL, its pretty clear in the first frames.

Can you see a Boeing?

I asked you respectfully, I didn't expect to be laughed at.

Once again, where is the missle?

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 11:35 AM
I asked you respectfully, I didn't expect to be laughed at.

Once again, where is the missle?
I did not say a missile.

I am asking can you see a Boeing 757?

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:36 AM
You still haven't answered my question, and I won't answer yours until you answer mine. If you want the answer to that, read a few posts back.

Where is the "swoop of an object?"

ColombianMami
06-17-2005, 11:39 AM
...Bush did it...

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 11:40 AM
Well, its an object that does not look like a Boeing 757.

Believe what you want from relatives but again I cant see a Boeing 757.

I cant help you if you can see a swoosh of an object.

The footage is there plain to see and I even slowed it down. Do you see the Boeing in the footage I posted.

Ronin
06-17-2005, 11:46 AM
people say that a smaller plane was used, a remote controlled spyplane that had explosives attached

your uncle, if your story is true....definately saw a BOENG 747 and not a smaller plane?

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:47 AM
people say that a smaller plane was used, a remote controlled spyplane that had explosives attached

your uncle, if your story is true....definately saw a BOENG 747 and not a smaller plane?
yo, he doesn't know his planes, it might have been a smaller plane, he doesn't like to talk about it. it could have been a smaller plane.

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:50 AM
Tronix- it might have been a smaller plane.

And the angle it crashed into the Pentagon cannot be seen well from the angle of the video.

Ronin
06-17-2005, 11:50 AM
which is not the government excuse

tony, if its true about your uncle i dont wanna talk shit to you about it but u gotta realise the government is corrupt as hell, do u see how a commercial airline wouldnt be shot down or taxid away before it hit one of maericas most important buildings?

TonyStarks29
06-17-2005, 11:50 AM
I have a question though....all those people who died on the planes....if it was a missile...where are all those people?

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 11:55 AM
I have a question though....all those people who died on the planes....if it was a missile...where are all those people?The only people that know this are the perpetrators who carried out these attacks

There are theories but they are just that

jR_killa
06-17-2005, 11:57 AM
Listen all of this is great, but it doesn't mean shit, If it was a conspiracy by the Bush family then we will simply never know, they are one of the most powerful families in the world and if they want something to remain a secret then it will, you simply must accept this. Alot of people died in the World Trade and Pentagon attacks, whether it was a terrorist act or a secret government plot, those people still died needlessly, and nothing we do can change that. Only a monster would sacrafice all of those people over money, and while the Bush's are shady, they are not Evil. It seems disrespectful to those who died to carry on all of these talks almost 4 years after it occured, we shouldn't trivialize them like this, well that's my opinion anyways.

Peace
R.I.P. to the 2,992 people that died in the events of 9/11
R.I.P. to the 265 people killed on four planes; 232 passengers, 25 flight attendants, 8 pilots

7EL7
06-17-2005, 12:26 PM
I understand that this is all debtable... So who's orders would he be following? I'm starting to hate america. Do people just sit down and decide what innocent people are we killing today and how are we going to gain? This reminds me of how aids was started, why does all of this stuff always go overlooked by the public? Hmmm I guess America isn't as free and safe as we all think and were not at all better than any dictorship that we've helped bring down. (<Ok we are, but still!)
and it should be clear about this place

it was founded on blood, it was stolen, using lies and murder from the beginning

don't forget what it was founded on

they slayed almost all of the natives who were already here

then they went and got 60,000,000 of us, brought us here (the ones who survived the trip) and abused us for dam near 500 years





they can have sympathy for a racoon getting skinned alive, but they tell us to stop complaining when we mourn about our conditions in this place

Liquidswordsman
06-17-2005, 07:12 PM
and it should be clear about this place

it was founded on blood, it was stolen, using lies and murder from the beginning

don't forget what it was founded on

they slayed almost all of the natives who were already here

then they went and got 60,000,000 of us, brought us here (the ones who survived the trip) and abused us for dam near 500 years





they can have sympathy for a racoon getting skinned alive, but they tell us to stop complaining when we mourn about our conditions in this place
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

kingidivine
06-17-2005, 07:23 PM
I'm too tired to look over all the "evidence" right now, but skimming over it I did notice the thing about building 7 looking like it was taken down by explosives. What a joke. Of course it was taken down by explosives. That is a well-known fact and not any kind of cover up. Dan Rather didn't even know what was going on. This is FACT and admitted by the government later. Unlike how they will never admit what really happened to the plane in Pennsylvania.

TRONIX
06-17-2005, 07:33 PM
I'm too tired to look over all the "evidence" right now, but skimming over it I did notice the thing about building 7 looking like it was taken down by explosives. What a joke. Of course it was taken down by explosives. That is a well-known fact and not any kind of cover up.They must have had the explosives planted prior before 9-11 as it would be impossible to wire a building and pull it in the few hours they had.

Wooly Noggins
06-17-2005, 07:39 PM
and it should be clear about this place

it was founded on blood, it was stolen, using lies and murder from the beginning

don't forget what it was founded on

they slayed almost all of the natives who were already here

then they went and got 60,000,000 of us, brought us here (the ones who survived the trip) and abused us for dam near 500 years





they can have sympathy for a racoon getting skinned alive, but they tell us to stop complaining when we mourn about our conditions in this place
Look at how these burger niggas is laughing their ass off at this
a hobbit with a sandwich mentality will never understand these things

002
06-20-2005, 01:02 PM
some nice research right here by Arcane.....




The TERM Illuminati come from Latin, which is translated into "The Illuminated Ones" or "The Enlightened Ones". This properly describes the intellectuals of Italy during the Renaissance. That is correct, the REAL Illuminati began in Italy during the 15th through 17th centuries A.D.
I am reffering to the factual real life Illuminati and not one of the unbelievable legends that have accompanied the Organization over the years.

The FACTUAL Illuminati was started by the famous scientists you read about everyday in science and history. Scientists like Coprenicus and Galileo. But these scientists were murdered by the Church for revealing scientific truths. Religion has always persecuted science.

But in Rome around the 1500s, these men decided to fight back against the Church. Italy's most enlightened minds - physicists, mathematicians, astronomers, etc, began having secret meetings to share their concerns about the Church's inaccurate teachings.

The were scared that the Church's domination of what was 'true' threatened academic enlightenment around the world. They created a Circle of Intellectuals, calling themselves the Enlightened Ones, or the Illuminati, Europe's most learned minds dedicated to the quest for scientific truth.

But the Illuminati were ruthlessly hunted by the Catholic Church. And this is where the Illuminati secrecy begins.
Because they were hunted, their only way to survive was through rites of secrecy.

Word spread around Europe untill the Institution began having regular meetings in an ultrasecret lair they called the Church of Illumination located in Rome.

Many of the Illuminati wanted to combat the Church's tyranny with acts of violence but did not because of Pacifists leaders such as Galileo. Eventually the Inquisitions came around and the killing of Illuminati members increased. They were forced to flee Italy for places like France that were safehavens for all types of people being persecuted by the Church.

Here is wher the Illuminati began mixing with other groups fleeing the Catholic purges. Alchemists, Occultists, Mystics, Astrologers, and among them FREEMASONS (all were claimed Satanists by the Church) were introduced to Illuminati ideology. By mixing with these groups they began the Satanic Cult Illuminati which we see everywhere today.

The Illuminati inevitably grew to power and now hold an iron fist over world politics and royalty. From the Satanic Cult began bloodlines of royal decendency such as the Merovingians and the Rothschild as the most commonly known.

Here is a list of the 13 Bloodlines they hold sacred.

1. The Astor Bloodline
2. The Bundy Bloodline
3. The Collins Bloodline
4. The DuPont Bloodline
5. The Freeman Bloodline
6. The Kennedy Bloodline
7. The Li Bloodline
8. The Onassis Bloodline
9. The Reynolds bloodline
10. The Rockefeller Bloodline
11. The Rothschild Bloodline
12. The Russell Bloodline
13. The Van Duyn Bloodline
[Merovingian] (European Royal Families)

Psalmz
06-20-2005, 01:21 PM
shut up trick.

Triple B
06-20-2005, 01:39 PM
all I know is that the media has given the 9/11 disaster a way too big status imo.. that's just ridiculous if you see what human disasters are happening in africa..

my 2 cents

Psalmz
06-20-2005, 01:41 PM
take my 2 balls and gargle them shits in your mouf bee-yotch

Triple B
06-20-2005, 01:43 PM
take my 2 balls and gargle them shits in your mouf bee-yotch
lol was kinda expecting such reactions lol :P don't bother getting them out of your pants.

Psalmz
06-20-2005, 01:48 PM
Too late because they plopped themselves in your grill already nigga.

BLOOP!

Triple B
06-20-2005, 01:48 PM
Too late because they plopped themselves in your grill already nigga.

BLOOP!
k, just give me a moment to give them a good chew then :P

Psalmz
06-20-2005, 01:57 PM
uh, aight motherfucker. Aight then.

Liquidswordsman
06-20-2005, 06:14 PM
what the fuck

THE W
06-20-2005, 07:08 PM
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent."

NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

How about you guys do some actual research. Seriously. Why don't you go to your local University and talk to an engineer or something. Pick up a phone and call the people who measured the "explosion". Here's what they said:

"There is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers," Lerner-Lam tells PM. "That representation of our work is categorically incorrect and not in context."

On that graph, the 8- and 10-second collapses appear--misleadingly--as a pair of sudden spikes. Lamont-Doherty's 40-second plot of the same data (Graph 2) gives a much more detailed picture: The seismic waves--blue for the South Tower, red for the North Tower--start small and then escalate as the buildings rumble to the ground. Translation: no bombs.

No I believe the plane crash was the first chain in why they fell, because I understand basic physics, actually do a little research, am not gulible, and have a good head on my shoulders. Why don't you read what they later found out about that collapse:

"On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

I don't know, mabye it feel because 1/4 of its support structure was missing?

In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."
you say we shouldnt blindly believe websites but you blindly believe what the media tells you?

THE W
06-20-2005, 07:21 PM
for those who believe it was fire damage answer me this:

how did the fire from the plain crash go from the top portion of the building all the way down to the bottom? thats was a tall building and thats the only way that building would have fell in the matter it did.

the way im seeing it(correct me if im wrong) is the fire was burning the top half and melting away the steel. the steel finally gives way and the building collapses. now if the bottom half has not been affected by the fire and has not been burning at 1100 degrees like the other half. its not gonna fall. so i would say that the building should have fell over instead of the entire structure simultaniously imploding. you know...TIMBERRR!

basically the fire would've cut the building in half.

and how exaclty did WTC 7 end up losing its base to stand? toney starks told me it was because of debris but how did these debris hit with enough impact to take out chunk of that building?

just some question i need answers to.

peace

THE W
06-20-2005, 07:27 PM
Sub-Zero, you're using the same source over and over and over again. It's the same thing as in all the other threads.

50,000 scientists, architects, people in the industry, investigators, policemen, detectives, newpapers, articles, journalist investigations, and a myriad of other literature and media say that the tower fell due to the plane, and 1 nutbag leftist conspiracy theorist says that it was blown up. Now who am I to believe? Wait...let me think about it for a second...
like i said we cant believe the internet but we're supposed to beilieve gov't appointed scientists and media outfits?

THE W
06-20-2005, 07:27 PM
Larry "pulled" the building cause it had to happen. there was allready enough death and it had to happen, but not because he was part of the shit!

LMAO........Peace!!!!
where did you obtain this information?

peace

THE W
06-20-2005, 07:47 PM
with all the technology they have, they could not see something as big as a 747 flying so close to the pentagon, and in enough time shoot it down before it hit ?


lets look at the vid again


http://0911.site.voila.fr/pentanimorig.gif


if you can find for me a plane in this video, i'll eat my PC screen




and !

what is that very bright light in the sky on the last frame ?

http://img77.echo.cx/img77/8317/pentanimorig457je.jpg



but hold up yo !

there is one frame missing, frame 2, where is it ?

it goes 19,21,22,23

wheres 20 ?



but even still, i'm shure the security of the pentagon has cameras watching the sky and all points of the area.

why hasn't there been a video showing the plane hitting the building, like they showed 2 hitting the world trade ?
i dont think the bright light is anything significant since it becomes visible after the explosion.

i also dont see how the missing frame is significant. can you explain the importance of these findings? what do you think would be in the missing frame? is there anyone else who has speculated on this?

also in the 19sec frame i see a white figure that is sitting there which looks like the plane. then in the 21sec frame i see white smog going across from outside of the picture to the impact location. what is that?

more questions i need answers for

peace

jaywoods27
06-21-2005, 02:27 AM
yeah My father and his friends talked about the new world order back in 95 thats the first time I heard of it. Alot of rappers talk about the illuminati the new world order. Just listen to wu tang forever. At first I didn't understand what they were saying then I got it. U-god~get your shit together for the fuckin illuminati hit! I would watch what you post. the government could think this is terriost on here and shut this thing down thats how crazy this world is. Also everybody talks it's time to take action. There's a guy by the name of john titor who claims he is a time traveler and says that starting in 2005 there will be a civil war that will last 8 years or something and it's not north against south or blacks vs whites its the people vs the goverment. I bet you if I said something on here that I know. Tommorrow the secret service would be banging down my door. This post has raised some eyebrows which is good. We need more post like this very good stuff. Right before the iraq war I saw all over the place army recruits going around and asking people to join. They kept calling my house I said no and they said what are you afraid to die. All those people in the army are gung hoe brain washed. If you bring this subject up to an army person they flipped out and want to fight. Thats how they were trained in the army

repo
06-21-2005, 02:51 AM
i would fucking love to believe that john titor is for realz

i dont think he is tho

TRONIX
06-21-2005, 03:31 AM
Larry "pulled" the building cause it had to happen. there was allready enough death and it had to happen, but not because he was part of the shit!

LMAO........Peace!!!!How can Larry get the building wired with exposives within the couple of hours he had to then pull it or are you saying that they had the building wired prior before 9-11 to pull the building at some point.


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif

002
06-21-2005, 06:30 AM
Fuck Yea! ^^^^

LHX
06-21-2005, 07:20 AM
Look at how these burger niggas is laughing their ass off at this
a hobbit with a sandwich mentality will never understand these things
the real irony is that the knuckleheadz that laugh loudest are the ones that cry most when they see recognize they are being burned alive

its a strange form of brain cancer

I-Legit
06-21-2005, 07:23 AM
How can Larry get the building wired with exposives within the couple of hours he had to then pull it or are you saying that they had the building wired prior before 9-11 to pull the building at some point.


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif
common sence will tell you, if anything was wired it was b4 9/11 in the case of the Twin Towers,

Triple B
06-21-2005, 07:59 AM
check circeled spot in the picture -> doesn't this look like the rear-end of an airplane?

http://users.pandora.be/peter.gabriels2/01.jpg

THE W
06-21-2005, 08:36 AM
How can Larry get the building wired with exposives within the couple of hours he had to then pull it or are you saying that they had the building wired prior before 9-11 to pull the building at some point.


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/SMALL_wtc-7_1_.gif very good question...

the answer to that it he couldnt, its impossible. it would take whole day for engineers to calculate where the explosives go and then put explosives in the proper places for the building to fall correctly.

those explosives had to have been set prior to 9/11.

THE W
06-21-2005, 08:48 AM
can anyone explain how someone can rig explosives to to a building for demolition in just a few hours? that would clear up some things.

I-Legit
06-21-2005, 09:06 AM
very good question...

the answer to that it he couldnt, its impossible. it would take whole day for engineers to calculate where the explosives go and then put explosives in the proper places for the building to fall correctly.

those explosives had to have been set prior to 9/11.
yeh of course... BUSHES BROTHER RAN SECURITY AT THE TWIN TOWERS AND ALL WTC BUILDINGS!!!!!!! who else but bushes blood brother himself would make sure that shit gets planted expecially if hes running security....c'mon now.....its obvious...that whats was going on,..but they all wanted money......the guy taht owned the WTC buildings got A LOT of insurence money..why wouldnt he agree to it...they're all greedy,

oh and bushes brother's contract for running security ended on September 11th of 2001...hmmm

TRONIX
06-21-2005, 09:47 AM
'Loose Change' is probably the best video about 9-11.

Watch the clip below

http://letsroll911.net/trailer_hi.rmvb

*Cockney*
06-24-2005, 03:14 PM
check circeled spot in the picture -> doesn't this look like the rear-end of an airplane?

http://users.pandora.be/peter.gabriels2/01.jpg
All I can see is a blur, geezer. I spose you imagine what you want.

But its pretty obvious you can't see a boeing.

Liquidswordsman
06-24-2005, 03:52 PM
Bush didnt plan shit; you guys are geeks that want your shit to be true and i am a brainwashed idoit, can was please just shut this shit down?

Wooly Noggins
06-24-2005, 10:43 PM
you guys are geeks

you guys are geeks ?



lmao

tostones
06-25-2005, 02:24 AM
i am a brainwashed idoit

idoit?

THE W
06-25-2005, 05:04 AM
while its interesting to discuss these matters sometimes, its really worthless to invest a whole lot into these conspiracy theories cuz if they are true, what is anyone gonna do about it?

pablobaluba
06-25-2005, 08:46 AM
incredible

Ronin
06-25-2005, 09:31 AM
the building couldve been rigged any time, u would only need to attack the main parts of the middle steel skeletons, im guessing explosives couldve been placed at every 20 floors or something as an estimate....

i dont know about it though, but the towers def fell like 7

Wooly Noggins
06-25-2005, 12:44 PM
most don't realize how huge these buildings really were
like 100 something floors

fire cannot topple 2 big ass buildings like that without the aid of explosives

36chambers
06-25-2005, 12:51 PM
amazing 1st post sub nero and a brilliant thread. props.

instead of people coming out with stupid 1 liners, just read what he has to say before passing judgement.

LHX
06-25-2005, 12:52 PM
the butler did it

with a trophy

THE W
06-25-2005, 12:59 PM
the butler did it

with a trophy
HAHAHAHA

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 01:17 PM
amazing 1st post sub nero and a brilliant thread. props.

instead of people coming out with stupid 1 liners, just read what he has to say before passing judgement.
We did read it, the same damn people have been posting. It is not true.

thats a 2 liner

LHX
06-25-2005, 01:26 PM
passing judgment is one of my favorite past times

im not very good at it tho

TRONIX
06-25-2005, 02:29 PM
We did read it, the same damn people have been posting. It is not true.

thats a 2 liner
You aint posted nothing to refute what people are posting.

LHX
06-25-2005, 02:35 PM
oj simpson

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 02:36 PM
I read the 'facts' and i disagree

LHX
06-25-2005, 02:39 PM
rasputin

Ink Is My Drink
06-25-2005, 02:53 PM
i dont know what to think really

TRONIX
06-25-2005, 03:00 PM
I read the 'facts' and i disagreeWhy dont you believe in the facts?

LHX
06-25-2005, 03:14 PM
genghis khan

Wooly Noggins
06-25-2005, 04:32 PM
somethings wrong

when evidence is brought, the people still say "conspiracy theory"


what kind of program is this

must be them paint chip sandwiches

Mark
06-25-2005, 04:47 PM
It's so cute to see grown up people doing that conspiracy shit! ;D

All kinds of people got shit to say about FIRE and FLAMES and EXPLOSIVES, but the funny thing is: NOBODY on this forum don't know shit about these subjects! What dude on a wutangclan forum ever made bombs, set buildings on fire, or knows shit about explosives? People who talk about these subjects just say things they heard on television or radio.

Although I really think their is something very weird and America might have something to do with 9/11 or a connection with Al-Queda, it's very clear that nobody will ever know the real truth.

LHX
06-25-2005, 04:58 PM
what the fuck is goin on
i cant go to sleep

the real truth is that we still live on a planet where people kill people

that is some lame ass shit

i can honestly say that there is no way that the death of anybody or any group of people would make my life a better life

how can everybody be so obsessed with the technicalities of 'what went down' and 'by who'

who gives a fuck

we live in a place where people fly planes into buildings on purpose and accomplish nothing of any significance (except making people paranoid) in the process

one of these days you're gonna grow uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
and have to faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace
responsibilityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyy

we should be trading gardening and agriculture tips instead of debating information given to us by some cracker jack media

P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-PEACE

Wooly Noggins
06-25-2005, 05:08 PM
we are not just discussing this subject, we are adding up these same types of events that happen and continue to happen

can't expect 85ers to understand or agree

everyone cannot see the muds that they are in

LHX
06-25-2005, 05:13 PM
how high does the evidence have to pile?

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 05:17 PM
I wish peace and i hope that the steps we have taken to stop terroirism help the USoA and future generations of the world. No major attacks since 9/11, lets keep it that way

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Tarheels2274/sunrise.jpg

TRONIX
06-25-2005, 05:42 PM
It's so cute to see grown up people doing that conspiracy shit! ;D

All kinds of people got shit to say about FIRE and FLAMES and EXPLOSIVES, but the funny thing is: NOBODY on this forum don't know shit about these subjects! What dude on a wutangclan forum ever made bombs, set buildings on fire, or knows shit about explosives? People who talk about these subjects just say things they heard on television or radio.

Although I really think their is something very weird and America might have something to do with 9/11 or a connection with Al-Queda, it's very clear that nobody will ever know the real truth.I think what people in this thread are establishing is that 9-11 did not happen the way the government have portrayed it did and it is obvious from the evidence that this is a fact.

You are probably right that we may never know whole truth but I think its people's instincts to want to know the truth.

Sicka than aidZ
06-25-2005, 05:48 PM
thats a cool picture liquidswordsman, thanks, im copying it, it looks dope

Wooly Noggins
06-25-2005, 06:05 PM
I wish peace and i hope that the steps we have taken to stop terroirism help the USoA and future generations of the world. No major attacks since 9/11, lets keep it that way



usa was built on terrorism

LHX
06-25-2005, 06:08 PM
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 06:39 PM
usa was built on terrorism
We must have been great then

Wooly Noggins
06-25-2005, 07:06 PM
YUP

yall was great indeed

greatly wicked
and now your time has ended

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 07:13 PM
YUP

yall was great indeed

greatly wicked
and now your time has ended
Who long u think we got?

JASPER
06-25-2005, 07:14 PM
I think the smurfs did it.





Smurfs...hahahahahahahahh fuck

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 07:17 PM
so that means we are Gargamel and his cat Azrael?

JASPER
06-25-2005, 07:20 PM
Intelligence say they're not in any way connected, but let's invade their house either way.

Wooly Noggins
06-25-2005, 07:24 PM
Who long u think we got?

a couple of minutes

just submit and there won't be any problems

its for the better

yall had it long enough and fucked it up for everyone

now its time to sit down

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 07:25 PM
didnt he live in a cave like al-qaeda?

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 07:26 PM
a couple of minutes

just submit and there won't be any problems

its for the better

yall had it long enough and fucked it up for everyone

now its time to sit down
Just leave us North Dakota

LHX
06-25-2005, 10:58 PM
december 21 2012

but our calendars may not be accurate

whitey
06-25-2005, 11:00 PM
and it should be clear about this place

it was founded on blood, it was stolen, using lies and murder from the beginning

don't forget what it was founded on

they slayed almost all of the natives who were already here

then they went and got 60,000,000 of us, brought us here (the ones who survived the trip) and abused us for dam near 500 years





they can have sympathy for a racoon getting skinned alive, but they tell us to stop complaining when we mourn about our conditions in this place

im pretty sure all nations were founded on blood, and stealing it from someone.


and you know 90% of the slaves coming to the new world went to brazil, ever think of why most of the country is so dark and almost african/black looking. along with the fact that africans and some african americans participated in the slave trade.

whitey
06-25-2005, 11:04 PM
Well, I have heard and seen a number of witnesses that did not see a Boeing 757.

I would rather believe what I see with my eyes

What do you see TonyStarks29

http://0911.site.voila.fr/pentanimorig.gif

maybe im missing something but i thought 9/11 happend on 9/11, not 9/12. as that date indicates. along with the missing segmant, you cant pull anything conclusive from this thing when its missing 1/5 of it.

and what proof is there that this is actually the pentagon and just not some building gettign shot with a missle to help prove your point. (not that you did it or anything, but im sure theres shit like this on the net that would fit)

whitey
06-25-2005, 11:08 PM
and just lastly, i think this thing is too over the top. i agree some of the shit may sound shiesty but could be a coinsodence that things happend a certain way.

i just think if it had anything to it someone like micheal moore or somebody who has something to gain (because thats how this world works) would do/say/make something proving it, and that this groundbreaking info would not come from from some dude on a wu tang message board.

but hey i cant prove you wrong or right so its left a question.

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 11:12 PM
december 21 2012

but our calendars may not be accurate
Damn leap year fucks everything

Sicka than aidZ
06-25-2005, 11:21 PM
YUP

yall was great indeed

greatly wicked
and now your time has ended
wrong answer, u lose,http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/jameztwo/smileybanned2.gifCyaaaaaa

LHX
06-25-2005, 11:24 PM
it would be funny if by the end of this thread everybody was in agreement

Sicka than aidZ
06-25-2005, 11:30 PM
I think the smurfs did it.





Smurfs...hahahahahahahahh fucknaw, it was the Fraggle's.....they murdered the injuns,...enslaved the africans terrorized north america and built it to what it is now,...and now they're busy blowing shit up here an there and blaming it on the al quieda(smurfs).....all from there headquarters "Down in Fraggle Rock!"

LHX
06-25-2005, 11:32 PM
i never got too into fraggle rock

was that the show with the two old guys in the balcony?

Identity
06-25-2005, 11:33 PM
Hey guys, I've got an idea. Why don't you go to college, just a technical college will work, and take a film class. Study really hard, and then come back to me in a few months and let me know how many frames per second the average professional film camera takes. The answer is around 24 frames per second.

"24 frames per second is the rate for professional motion picture film, the rate at which individual frames pass through a camera or projector."

http://www.elementalfilms.co.uk/projectx/hd24p_text.htm

Now let's look at this "video footage". It has a picture for every 1/60 of a second! That means it would have to be taking 60 frames a second!!! That's almost three times faster than most professional grade motion film cameras... On a security camera!!! Give me a break. You guys are morons. THIS FILM IS A FAKE. Get a life.

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 11:35 PM
the muppets


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Tarheels2274/RTEmagicC_muppets_balcony_04.jpg

Liquidswordsman
06-25-2005, 11:37 PM
Hey guys, I've got an idea. Why don't you go to college, just a technical college will work, and take a film class. Study really hard, and then come back to me in a few months and let me know how many frames per second the average professional film camera takes. The answer is around 24 frames per second.

"24 frames per second is the rate for professional motion picture film, the rate at which individual frames pass through a camera or projector."

http://www.elementalfilms.co.uk/projectx/hd24p_text.htm

Now let's look at this "video footage". It has a picture for every 1/60 of a second! That means it would have to be taking 60 frames a second!!! That's almost three times faster than most professional grade motion film cameras... On a security camera!!! Give me a break. You guys are morons. THIS FILM IS A FAKE. Get a life.Thank you for the info, but this thread is more about fraggles and muppets now

i figure the Snorkles have a major role as well

LHX
06-25-2005, 11:38 PM
the muppets


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Tarheels2274/RTEmagicC_muppets_balcony_04.jpg
yeah thats the shit right there

LHX
06-25-2005, 11:39 PM
Hey guys, I've got an idea. Why don't you go to college, just a technical college will work, and take a film class. Study really hard, and then come back to me in a few months and let me know how many frames per second the average professional film camera takes. The answer is around 24 frames per second.

"24 frames per second is the rate for professional motion picture film, the rate at which individual frames pass through a camera or projector."

http://www.elementalfilms.co.uk/projectx/hd24p_text.htm

Now let's look at this "video footage". It has a picture for every 1/60 of a second! That means it would have to be taking 60 frames a second!!! That's almost three times faster than most professional grade motion film cameras... On a security camera!!! Give me a break. You guys are morons. THIS FILM IS A FAKE. Get a life.
how many frames per second was fraggle rock?

now that is some controversy

Sicka than aidZ
06-25-2005, 11:59 PM
no those were the "free muppets society" from jim "the muslim" hanson......"AllahFrog kermit of the 5 percent was"never diggin that 85'er swine hoe"miss piggy"

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 12:06 AM
the "muppet baby disinformation act of 1988"

Liquidswordsman
06-26-2005, 12:08 AM
no those were the "free muppets society" from jim "the muslim" hanson......"AllahFrog kermit of the 5 percent was"never diggin that 85'er swine hoe"miss piggy"
my god....we are all kinda in an agreement....hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........how far we have all come

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Tarheels2274/aaaa.jpg

?????????????? so it was the muppets and the UN that came up with this? Damn you Jim Henson (RIP) i always thought he was up to something funny

tostones
06-26-2005, 12:10 AM
Peace


Which video goes to 60 exactly?

If you are speaking on the pentagon vid, it is surveillance footage it would most likely be on video and the film 24 frames per second may not apply. Either way, if its 60 its probably going by seconds not frame rates.

tostones
06-26-2005, 12:11 AM
bush might as well be a muppet

Liquidswordsman
06-26-2005, 12:14 AM
bush might as well be a muppetas true for any leader of any country.

LETS GO GET EM MUPPETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Tarheels2274/muppet-tank.jpg

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 12:19 AM
Rahahahahahahaaaaa!!!-dead like grave dead on the floor an shit. fuckin muppet tank!...fuck papi smurf up

tostones
06-26-2005, 12:21 AM
it is true that there are many corrupted leaders out there

i live in the US


the soldiers are his puppets




peace
yoda is a wise muppet

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 12:24 AM
*yoda/kermy voice* meditate upon 9/11 I will

Liquidswordsman
06-26-2005, 12:26 AM
it is true that there are many corrupted leaders out there

i live in the US


the soldiers are his puppets




peace
yoda is a wise muppet
We all ready signed yoda to our team, sorry
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Tarheels2274/bushblairyoda.gif

Wooly Noggins
06-26-2005, 12:34 AM
im pretty sure all nations were founded on blood, and stealing it from someone.


and you know 90% of the slaves coming to the new world went to brazil, ever think of why most of the country is so dark and almost african/black looking. along with the fact that africans and some african americans participated in the slave trade.

trying to pass the guilt off from the goat onto the sheep ain't gonna work today


our people could never fathom the atrocities we would face here under the children of shaytans rule

we thought that you'd only make us build a nice little world for you
we did not know that yall would take it so far as to wipe away our identity all together

Wooly Noggins
06-26-2005, 12:44 AM
wrong answer, u lose,http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/jameztwo/smileybanned2.gifCyaaaaaa


when you hamburger kids finally realize what really up, you would have already vomited up your dress shirts trying to suck up any nutrients stained on and in your collar for yall to do anything about it


get you a fe more budweisers and convince yourself that your victorious

thats the only way for yall

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 12:48 AM
trying to pass the guilt off from the goat onto the sheep ain't gonna work today


our people could never fathom the atrocities we would face here under the children of shaytans rule

we thought that you'd only make us build a nice little world for you
we did not know that yall would take it so far as to wipe away our identity all togethersee, its that "jim muslim muppet frontin over nothin hanson grandson" dumbin all the fun in wucorp son.

get the fuck outta here ya whine to much.....u actually take me serious, i dont give a damn bout this shit,...thats why there's nothin u can do to stop it,...no body care's.....

ima fuckin "who care'sbear" so keep yappin while we give a shit

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 12:52 AM
fuck you......c,..^^see, its that "jim muslim muppet frontin over nothin hanson grandson" dumbin all the fun in wucorp son.

Wooly Noggins
06-26-2005, 01:01 AM
FUN ?


a demon would


got dam - i'm gonna save you

just so you can see yourself


and what a horrible site it is


LMAO@ lets have fun

do yall see this nigga

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 01:07 AM
u mad?

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 01:09 AM
oh, been 2 minutes, nobody cares, oh darn,...u mad?

whitey
06-26-2005, 01:14 AM
trying to pass the guilt off from the goat onto the sheep ain't gonna work today


our people could never fathom the atrocities we would face here under the children of shaytans rule

we thought that you'd only make us build a nice little world for you
we did not know that yall would take it so far as to wipe away our identity all together
nah son, aint nothing about that. its about human nature, not black or white.

they really didnt give a fuck, they saw the opportunity to make a profit at the expenise of others and they took it.

but that only happens when white people do it to you i forgot...

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 01:19 AM
FUN ?


a demon would


got dam - i'm gonna save you

just so you can see yourself


and what a horrible site it is


LMAO@ lets have fun

do yall see this nigga http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/jameztwo/smileybanned2.gif, take a hike

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 01:21 AM
zzz...zz...zzz, huh,..^co-sign...zzz..zz..

Wooly Noggins
06-26-2005, 01:26 AM
nah son, aint nothing about that. its about human nature, not black or white.

they really didnt give a fuck, they saw the opportunity to make a profit at the expenise of others and they took it.

but that only happens when white people do it to you i forgot...

lmao @ these hamburger clowns

the African had no idea of what their people were oming to america to face

if they did know, they would have slayed all of yall right then and there

a servant to an african is not the same as an african enslaved to a beast man like being - we had no clue that you would be burning and lyniching us in the name of god - if we did - you would have never left the shores

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 01:33 AM
zzz..zz...zzz..huh?..^^fuck u honkey.....zzz..zz..

6thPlanet
06-26-2005, 01:51 AM
Watch out with this...

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 02:13 AM
we've been pitchin each other shit for awhile now, i dont think he cares very much, i know i dont,,...it'll slide........My dad's an indian/philipino named herman(doesnt drink).....

Hermen said
QUIT WHININ BOUT THOSE 400 YEARS LIKE U WERE THERE....TIRED ASS ARGUMENT,...YOUR RACE THINKS PEOPLE OWE U FOR SOME SHIT FROM FUCKIN CENTURIES AGO, WELL TUFF SHIT, LIFES A BITCH, TELL EM TO SHUT THA FUCK UP

TRONIX
06-26-2005, 04:49 AM
Hey guys, I've got an idea. Why don't you go to college, just a technical college will work, and take a film class. Study really hard, and then come back to me in a few months and let me know how many frames per second the average professional film camera takes. The answer is around 24 frames per second.

"24 frames per second is the rate for professional motion picture film, the rate at which individual frames pass through a camera or projector."

http://www.elementalfilms.co.uk/projectx/hd24p_text.htm

Now let's look at this "video footage". It has a picture for every 1/60 of a second! That means it would have to be taking 60 frames a second!!! That's almost three times faster than most professional grade motion film cameras... On a security camera!!! Give me a break. You guys are morons. THIS FILM IS A FAKE. Get a life.You need to educate yourself. Type in Pentagon attack in Google .

You will get the same footage time and time again. This footage is not FAKE. If you do some research you will find that this is the official footage that the government released of the attack on the Pentagon.

Prove that the footage is fake.

TRONIX
06-26-2005, 04:52 AM
Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77
By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D

I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that “crashed” on that day. FOIA Cover Page

A list of names on a piece of paper is not evidence, but an autopsy by a pathologist, is. I undertook by FOIA request, to obtain that autopsy list and you are invited to view it below. Guess what? Still no Arabs on the list. It is my opinion that the monsters who planned this crime made a mistake by not including Arabic names on the original list to make the ruse seem more believable.

When airline disasters occur, airlines will routinely provide a manifest list for anxious families. You may have noticed that even before Sep 11th, that airlines are pretty meticulous about getting an accurate headcount before takeoff. It seems very unlikely to me, that five Arabs sneaked onto a flight with weapons.

This is the list provided by American of the 56 passengers: (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html)


On September 27th, the FBI published photos of the “hijackers” of Flight 77: (http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/77.htm):

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), does a miraculous job and identified identified nearly all the bodies on November 16th 2001. (http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/stripe/6_48/national_news/12279-1.html).


The AFIP suggest these numbers; 189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were “passengers” on the plane. The AA list only had 56 and the list just obtained has 58. They did not explain how they were able to tell “victims” bodies from “hijacker” bodies. In fact, from the beginning NO explanation has been given for the extra five suggested in news reports except that the FBI showed us the pictures to make up the difference, and that makes it so.

Now, being the trusting sort, I figured that the government would want to quickly dispel any rumors so we could get on with the chore of kicking Osama/Sadaam’s butt (weren’t these originally two different people?). It seemed simple to me. . .produce the names of all the bodies identified by the AFIP and compare it with the publicized list of passengers. So, I sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the AFIP and asked for an expedited response, because we were getting ready to send our boys to war on the pretext that Osama/Sadaam had done the deed. Fourteen months later, a few US soldiers dead, many Iraqi civilians pushing up daisies, and I finally get the list. Believe me that they weren’t a bit happy to give it up, and I really have no idea why they choose now to release it.

No Arabs wound up on the morgue slab; however, three ADDITIONAL people not listed by American Airline sneaked in. I have seen no explanation for these extras. I did give American the opportunity to “revise” their original list, but they have not responded. The new names are: Robert Ploger, Zandra Ploger, and Sandra Teague. The AFIP claims that the only “passenger” body that they were not able to identify is the toddler, Dana Falkenberg, whose parents and young sister are on the list of those identified. The satanic masterminds behind this caper may be feeling pretty smug about the perfect crime, but they have left a raft of clues tying these unfortunates together. Stay tuned for part two to take a much closer look of the cast of characters on this ill-fated flight.

Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77 Part 1 (http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm)

No Arabs on Flight 77 Part 2 (http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/07/article_tro_flight77.htm)

I suppose the true fraggles on here will give silly comments and not try to prove the evidence wrong that has surfaced on here.

Mark
06-26-2005, 05:09 AM
wow... 9/11 is an obsession for some people.

6thPlanet
06-26-2005, 05:23 AM
You have any idea how crazy this thread looks????????
It is very sick...

TRONIX
06-26-2005, 06:00 AM
wow... 9/11 is an obsession for some people.
Just like some people being on this forum 24/7.

6thPlanet
06-26-2005, 06:30 AM
Some people are on ogrisch.com 24/7. That's allot better ofcourse ;)

LHX
06-26-2005, 08:36 AM
nah son, aint nothing about that. its about human nature, not black or white.

they really didnt give a fuck, they saw the opportunity to make a profit at the expenise of others and they took it.

but that only happens when white people do it to you i forgot...
what the hell is this "human nature" that peeps talk about

is this some cop out that we use when we notice a lot of ignorant folk do the same dumb shit as we do?

the only "human nature" is curiosity

its the work of something sinister to lie to your fellow man and fill their head with bullshit until they stop being curious and asking questions

PEACE

i hate long posts

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 11:41 AM
You have any idea how crazy this thread looks????????
It is very sick...
if u think what me an wooley's crazy, dont worry, ive been making fun of him for like a year...you read all the stuff he wrote about me when i joined here, so i just decided id confront him here...figures he'd be sayin that im a demon...oh well, cya in hell,...im out,peace

Wooly Noggins
06-26-2005, 12:54 PM
if u think what me an wooley's crazy, dont worry, ive been making fun of him for like a year...you read all the stuff he wrote about me when i joined here, so i just decided id confront him here...figures he'd be sayin that im a demon...oh well, cya in hell,...im out,peace

stop acting like you know me kid

and


you ain't confronting shit

you "ain't" said shit yet

Sicka than aidZ
06-26-2005, 01:04 PM
Shut Up Dickless

Wooly Noggins
06-26-2005, 01:14 PM
http://njsr.org/pics/albums/userpics/10222/snowjob.jpg

i keep askin this cat an isnt replying,bein a punk......yeah, so whats your name dipshit., besides supersperm?

NO SPERM FOR YOU !