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CELL
09-15-2005, 12:53 PM
Consider the evolution of consciousness as the ultimate goal in the evolution of physical form. Is there a consciousness backdrop that is helping life organize to greater complexity? In a multidimensional Universe, are higher dimensions helping organize life on the lower physical plane? This is a key concept that needs to be examined when discussing a theory of GOD, a higher consciousness that purportedly rules over lifeforms.

As single celled organisms evolved into multiple celled creatures, some cells mutated into specialized brain cells. Evolution eventually led to the creation of a central nervous system and the brain. That brain kept getting bigger until a threshold was reached and man gained self awareness and theories of GOD. We see clearly in the natural order higher levels of consciousness corresponding to advancement in physical form, but only humans are self aware.


Self-awareness is the key to GOD awareness, the perception of something greater than self. Did humans really find GOD or did they mislabel their perception? Could it be that humans detected their collective consciousness and called it GOD? Think of this way, if a cell in your body gained awareness that it was part of a larger being of yourself, could it understand what you are? You and your specialized brain cells can understand the cell completely but your individual cell can’t possibly comprehend what you are. To that single cell you are GOD. The cells in your body that make up you have a supra consciousness we call our mind stemming from a neural net of brain cells. In this analogy, the GOD of yourself is the collective consciousness of your single cells.

Likewise you can’t perceive the collective consciousness GOD of humanity because of the limits of perception that an individual has relative to the whole. If a cell would call your mind GOD from its limited awareness, you might call the collective consciousness GOD. With this theory, we can scientifically explain why we have a problem perceiving GOD.

Once the perception of GOD was realized then religions formed along with their adherence to doctrine. Religion is the institution formed to protect and promote the faith from generation to generation, a cultural meme. A meme is like a gene, a cultural concept passed to the next generation, a short term adaptation. Because religions are completely lost in erroneous interceptions of myth, they become distorted with time, fragment, and split into new faiths constantly warring with one another.


All religions are confused because they start with the implied assumption that GOD was separate from humanity instead of sum of humanity being the parents of GOD, the supra-consciousness of man. Christians teach that GOD predated humanity and created the universe in seven days. Fundamentalist Christians attack evolution and ridicule the idea that man evolved from apes. They want to maintain the concept that humans were created by GOD and therefore man must obey the FATHER. They are political and want laws to force people to behave according to their teachings. Their actions betray their evil intention to control the psychic space and limit perception of man so that he never uncovers the truth about his true nature. Religion needs to control perception in order to stay in business.

CELL
09-15-2005, 12:54 PM
As we change our collective viewpoint, we changed our thoughts about our highest aspirations. God morphed in the Holy Bible, the Old Testament describes Jehovah as an angry vengeful God killing off humans in a flood, while the New Testament portrays God as the forgiving Jesus dying for mankind on a cross. If our vision of GOD is our highest aspirations, a new higher vision then would force us to change our viewpoint about GOD. Unfortunately for the Bible writers, they labeled GOD as unchanging with time which directly contradicts writings about the contrary natures of Jehovah vs. Jesus.

So now we know why GOD changes with time and how it’s possible that GOD knows everything we are doing. GOD is humanities supra-consciousness that knows your individual thoughts which is all part of giant thought matrix probably of holographic form. (read the “Holographic Universe” by Michael Talbot) We could postulate that once an individual makes the connection between self and the whole that human would gain GOD perception and power.

In the blockbuster movie “The Matrix”, the hero NEO (anagram for “the ONE” a term used to describe Christ) gains control over the matrix when he fully realizes he is in a dreamworld and that the dream can be changed because it is only thoughtform. Neo becomes Christ when he fully realizes his potential to modify the matrix. Movies like “The Matrix” are created as we make it across a psychic threshold, they are transformative to the whole as they bring what we subconsciously understand into waking consciousness.

Other recommended movies are: “The Truman Show”, “The Thirteenth Floor”, “Dark City”, and “Pleasantville”. All of these illustrate in different ways a new way of looking at our consciousness. These movies herald a new threshold, an evolutionary jump in consciousness at the cultural level is underway.


Have you ever been inspired by a certain song? Does God inspire through music? Musicians (MUSES of SOUND) often describe that they wrote the hit song effortlessly. It just can to them, spilled out of them magically. Could it be that our sound muses shamanically download a vibration from the supra-consciousness. Our brains are like radios, able to tune into any vibration we wish. The musician senses the need of the collective, tunes into the god vibrations and writes a song that conjoles the masses.

CELL
09-15-2005, 12:54 PM
With a comprehensive theory of God we must examine the negative myth concepts we call the DEVIL. If we label the positive aspect of our highest thoughts and aspirations as GOD, then the negative aspects that we perceive we would assign to the dEVIL. Note how the Christian myth describes SATAN (an adaptation of OSIRIS’s evil brother SET that was give horns and a tail in the Egyptian mythology) as once being an ANGEL (a viewpoint, an ANGLE or aspect of) GOD but turned away. The DEVIL is that which is EVIL (LIVE spelled backwards), that which is not GOoD (no good).

As we change our minds (angle of our perception in the hologram) about the highest good, that which we used to associate with god now becomes that which belongs to side of the devil. A thought removed from our collective mind hierarchy is the angel cast out of heaven. For instance, we used to stone people to death for adultery but now that act would be murder and labeled evil. In fact we no longer require people who live together to be married. As we matured into a higher love vibration we were no longer willing to violently control the psychic space.

Why do human’s pray? No other animal on this planet prays. Humans believe that GOD is a separate ALL POWERFUL BEING living up in heaven and that praying to GOD will get HIM TO ACT on ONE’s behalf. GOD is SUPER MAN. (i.e. man’s supra-consciousness living up in heaven of the collective mind). We gain access to GOD through prayer and expect a positive response if we pray long enough. This why we love cartoons of supermen, men with special powers or god-like characters that can rescue us. They act in perfection, unlike us, never having a MIS TAKE. WONDER WOMAN is really ONENESS WOMAN, SUPER MAN is really SUPRACONCIOUSNESS MAN. Our cartoon heroes are the same metaphor that we describe GOD.

Some religions teach that only they are the chosen ones or that their path the only way into Heaven creating the urgent need to save souls. Prayer can be used in a negative fashion, in the form of psychic attack. Fundamentalists fanatics can PRAY to TRAP the unsuspecting, casting their psychic fishnet far and wide to catch more devotees into their cult. PRAYING then becomes PREYING, a form of black magic.

CELL
09-15-2005, 12:54 PM
Some religions teach that only they are the chosen ones or that their path the only way into Heaven creating the urgent need to save souls. Prayer can be used in a negative fashion, in the form of psychic attack. Fundamentalists fanatics can PRAY to TRAP the unsuspecting, casting their psychic fishnet far and wide to catch more devotees into their cult. PRAYING then becomes PREYING, a form of black magic.

Fundamentalists have one common trait, they absolutely insist that all members rigidly adhere to doctrine. Any person joining a religous cult must suspend their mind, it is the price of membership.

Humans steeped in myth and doctrine have very limited awareness. They blindly adhere to false doctrines and misinterpretations as truth. They pray to Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, angels, saints, or personalities of particular deities. Religions teach that if you want a certain thing, pray to a specific deity because you’ll have the best chance of actualizing your wish. These deities are really different aspects of GOD and are akin to separate programs, subroutines, operating on the matrix hard drive. Each aspect of GOD an ANGEL, GOD being a holographic thought matrix. Personalities developed on earth might still exist in holographic hyperspace.

There is order to the physical realm, the term COINCIDENCE IS A MISLABEL. Just because the mechanism causing a coincidence has not yet discovered doesn’t mean that events happen haphazardly. Scientists invented terms like random and chaos because they could not mathematically describe particles in a box or complex flow phenomenon.

CELL
09-15-2005, 12:55 PM
Have you’ve ever experienced a really astounding synchronicity? Synchronicities are coincidences that are mathematically improbable and thus gain the attention of the mind operating in the thought matrix. Synchronicities are manifestations of thought into the physical plane. A synchronicity is an energetic event that matches a thought, that is why we view it as an improbable coincidence.

Thought is energy organized. YOUR MIND IS A LOCALIZED POINT OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN A FIELD OF CONSCIOUSNESS. Your brain is an ORGANIC computer, ORGANIZING energy into THOUGHTFORMS that MANIFEST in the physical plane. We are astounded bysynchronicitiess because we have not yet matured to fully accept our creation. Man is still a child BECOMING a GOD-MAN as he gains awareness that he is fully integrated into the GOD BEING. Synchronicity are scientific proof that our thoughts manifest and it is high time that we leave myth behind and come up with a new theory to explain our actual nature.

Recognizing synchronicities is the key necessary to perceiving the existence of a THOUGHT FIELD. Newton postulated that an unseen force, GRAVITY, caused the apple to fall on his head. You see WAVES on a lake, you postulate that an UNSEEN FORCE called WIND caused the WAVE EFFECT. You experience a phenomenal SERENDIPITOUS EVENT, recognize and admit that the event is SYNCHRONOUS WITH YOUR THOUGHTS and WISHES, then POSTULATE THAT YOUR THOUGHTS MANIFESTED INTO THE PHYSICAL REALM. You postulate that your mind is a localized point of consciousness in a field of consciousness.

We already scientifically understand holograms, fields, waves, dimensions, forces, and energy. WE ALSO LIVE IN A FRACTAL UNIVERSE, constant proportions, that is metaphors stacked upon metaphors. Taking a leap of INTUITION we postulate that SYNCHRONICITIES are EVENTS MANIFESTATION into the PHYSICAL DIMENSION of a HYPER-DIMENSIONAL HOLOGRAPHIC FIELD composed of THOUGHT WAVES. As myth is superseded by a scientific explanation, people will mature into self creators, taking responsibility for their thoughts, words, and actions.

Some men, however, are choosing a negative _expression degenerating into pure ego, operating in denial without compassion because they are resisting the maturation into god man. This is the Apocalypse, huge amount death on the physical plane as man makes it through the threshold into god consciousness. The Apocalypse is man terminating ego consciousness and ego’s _expression, religion.

Man is the peak of evolution because he has a fully evolved brain that is self aware. Self awareness leads to god consciousness and the institution of religion. Religion only a temporary structure, until god consciousness is realized. This is my comprehensive theory of God. God is man’s supra-consciousness gaining awareness in the physical plane resulting in fully integrated god being. God then exists in the physical plane, the end goal of evolution.

TeknicelStylez
09-15-2005, 01:17 PM
Thats some deep shit mang, prolly the most interesting thread I read on KTL.

Nice.

You and my boy, I Self Scientist, would probably build well.

CELL
09-15-2005, 01:45 PM
At this moment in time, I can't think of anything that would be more beautiful

PHI.1.618
09-15-2005, 10:03 PM
Keep it comin' cell ...

TeknicelStylez
09-15-2005, 10:14 PM
I'm going back to the hood tommorow, I have alot of research there that would add to this build, when I come back I got alot of shit to add to your theories, like Brane Theory, not sure if your familar with it.

CD's Sexy Sex Kitten
09-15-2005, 11:47 PM
Good Read.

CELL
09-16-2005, 12:35 AM
Keep it comin' cell ... haha, what more do you want, bro?

Visionz
09-17-2005, 03:52 AM
To expand on your original metaphor that the cell has no conscience(sp?) awarness of the body itself, wouldn't that also be true for the collective conscience here on earth? As to assume that we are not the only living beings in the universe, all those individuals planets have their own collective conscience and that these collective conscienceness together could be formed together to form the one, true God and that maybe that is what people are praying to, the largest, universal field of collective consciencess that exist. Just a new angle to consider, or maybe you alrdy thought of it but it would be nice if achieve that highest form of consciousness possible here on earth. I'm glad it's being discussed here. peace

LHX
09-17-2005, 07:23 AM
so many words

eyes

hurt




peac
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Triple B
09-27-2005, 04:09 PM
wow! you put into words what I've been thinking about the last few months.

great stuff!!

I don't believe in a god as portrayed by religion, but I believe god is the blackbox of all actions and reactions. the vast system of everything interconnected that men labelled as god because they couldn't explain/understand.

If you look at the holy books this way, it'll shed a whole different light.

Greaterthanthou
09-27-2005, 05:23 PM
can u post the source please? i wanna look into it more. I dont like how some of it is worded but i like the ideas.

You ever seen 'What the bleep do we know?'.. it explains the same sort of ideas.

CELL
09-27-2005, 05:29 PM
can u post the source please? i wanna look into it more. I dont like how some of it is worded but i like the ideas.

You ever seen 'What the bleep do we know?'.. it explains the same sort of ideas.
Youre looking at it :)

Greaterthanthou
09-27-2005, 05:30 PM
Oh.. well nice work.. u seen the documentary i mentioned?

Jet Set
09-27-2005, 05:34 PM
ain't that just what we doing with computers, from a flipflop on, all those transistors, to the thing you see before you all 0 or 1

nut_end
09-29-2005, 06:45 AM
you ever heard of the ghost in the machine theory that pertains to artifical intelligence in electronics (see i.robot or ghost in a shell), that and the super string theory in physics which tells of the whole universe being interconnected from the biggest suns to the neutrons of anti-matter continuing with this super string theory it makes me think of the golden spiral and rectangle of geometry and is there a golden thread that ties all things together in some accord like the rhythms of the ecosystem to the solar system et al. being comprehensive means it would under take and include all giving presidence to the entity called necessary evil not evil in itself but then not good in eyes of most as well. it would be the equivalebt of postulating that we're formed by god and also that we can form god making it almost a matter of where the conscience of one and consciousness of another merge like osmosis to re-emerge like a strand of dna with each side from the other. to somewhat conclude it would be a thesis antithesis and their corresponding synthesis.

TeknicelStylez
09-29-2005, 06:52 AM
ghost in the machine to much anime for you.....

String theory is being proven wrong dammit! I hate string theory.

Triple B
09-29-2005, 07:31 AM
that and the super string theory in physics which tells of the whole universe being interconnected from the biggest suns to the neutrons of anti-matter continuing with this super string theory it makes me think of the golden spiral and rectangle of geometry and is there a golden thread that ties all things together in some accord like the rhythms of the ecosystem to the solar system et al. I think we must search for what this collective conciousness means. I don't think we gotto see this like a conciousness similar too our brain-conciousness, but more like a system that organizes everything (just like our brain does with all the impulses we recieve thru our senses.)


'If you graft the numbers of any system, patterns emerge'

'Nature does nothing without a reason'

Nature (everything around you) exists for billions of years, the smallest particles probabaly even way longer. So patterns must exist. everything has an effect on everything; how small it is, I don't think it can be dismissed.

so this collective conciousness = math?


I'm not saying this is the truth, just expressing my thoughts on this topic so maybe someone can build/tear it down hehehe both ways are productive :)

cheers

3B


ps. threads like this make KTL worth reading again! good thing!

nut_end
09-29-2005, 10:55 AM
[QUOTE=Triple B] what this collective conciousness means. . . . a conciousness similar too our brain-conciousness, but more like a system that organizes everything (just like our brain does with all the impulses we recieve thru our senses.) . . .


the mention of the brain conscious is integral for its like if your conscious was time and your subconscious was energy and your unconscious was space with your conscience as matter. the line that would be traced from your actions whether carried out or just thought would be the string and the prefix super would be attached to the consciousness supra which is an external extension of the inner four akin to a quintessential aspect.

i forgot to note that just as their is a theiry which accounts for oder through out the universe where it could be said that everything is like a machine - deus es machina - there is another contradictory theory called chaos in which nothing is connected like pieces to a puzzle falling and fit end when dead with no relevancy to nothing while living the protaganist to the string where actions have consequences.

its like even in the field of science which is suppoe to be or trying to put this 'genie/god' in the bottle they let out some 'genie/entity' they can't put back.
string-good chaos-bad sounds like something about ethics more than morals.

later for now until then
salut.

Triple B
09-29-2005, 11:48 AM
wow, guess I'll have to get my dictionary out of the closet lol :D

SubtleEnergies
09-30-2005, 10:34 PM
I don't believe in evolution anymore...I want to start a thread on it.

aismani
10-19-2005, 11:07 AM
cell brings up exactly what honorable Clearance 13X from the nation of the gods and earths
taught-like any other real messenger,be it muhammad,jesus or buddha,considerin the real JIHAD overcomin of the superficial,constructed ego aka the false self ("naf"in arabic) .

WE WONT SURRENDER TO OUR SELVES-WE WILL SURRENDER TO OUR SELF
ALLAH BODY UNIVERSAL IVORY AND EBONY

aismani
10-19-2005, 11:09 AM
Have you’ve ever experienced a really astounding synchronicity? Synchronicities are coincidences that are mathematically improbable and thus gain the attention of the mind operating in the thought matrix. Synchronicities are manifestations of thought into the physical plane. A synchronicity is an energetic event that matches a thought, that is why we view it as an improbable coincidence.

Thought is energy organized. YOUR MIND IS A LOCALIZED POINT OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN A FIELD OF CONSCIOUSNESS. Your brain is an ORGANIC computer, ORGANIZING energy into THOUGHTFORMS that MANIFEST in the physical plane. We are astounded bysynchronicitiess because we have not yet matured to fully accept our creation. Man is still a child BECOMING a GOD-MAN as he gains awareness that he is fully integrated into the GOD BEING. Synchronicity are scientific proof that our thoughts manifest and it is high time that we leave myth behind and come up with a new theory to explain our actual nature.

Recognizing synchronicities is the key necessary to perceiving the existence of a THOUGHT FIELD. Newton postulated that an unseen force, GRAVITY, caused the apple to fall on his head. You see WAVES on a lake, you postulate that an UNSEEN FORCE called WIND caused the WAVE EFFECT. You experience a phenomenal SERENDIPITOUS EVENT, recognize and admit that the event is SYNCHRONOUS WITH YOUR THOUGHTS and WISHES, then POSTULATE THAT YOUR THOUGHTS MANIFESTED INTO THE PHYSICAL REALM. You postulate that your mind is a localized point of consciousness in a field of consciousness.

We already scientifically understand holograms, fields, waves, dimensions, forces, and energy. WE ALSO LIVE IN A FRACTAL UNIVERSE, constant proportions, that is metaphors stacked upon metaphors. Taking a leap of INTUITION we postulate that SYNCHRONICITIES are EVENTS MANIFESTATION into the PHYSICAL DIMENSION of a HYPER-DIMENSIONAL HOLOGRAPHIC FIELD composed of THOUGHT WAVES. As myth is superseded by a scientific explanation, people will mature into self creators, taking responsibility for their thoughts, words, and actions.

Some men, however, are choosing a negative _expression degenerating into pure ego, operating in denial without compassion because they are resisting the maturation into god man. This is the Apocalypse, huge amount death on the physical plane as man makes it through the threshold into god consciousness. The Apocalypse is man terminating ego consciousness and ego’s _expression, religion.

Man is the peak of evolution because he has a fully evolved brain that is self aware. Self awareness leads to god consciousness and the institution of religion. Religion only a temporary structure, until god consciousness is realized. This is my comprehensive theory of God. God is man’s supra-consciousness gaining awareness in the physical plane resulting in fully integrated god being. God then exists in the physical plane, the end goal of evolution.
....aaiiight