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Black Man
06-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Before integration, Black students went to shabby Black schools where they were taught by Black teachers who relly cared. After intergation, Black students either went to shabby Black schools where they were taught by white teacher who didn't give a fuck OR nice white shools where they grew up being treated like shit.

Before integration, Blacks couldn't eat with them, party with them, or live with them, so you created a sense of family with your own people. After integration, Blacks could go hang around whoever they wanted, so you started liking that better than doing it with your own kind (even though they still didn't like you!)

Before integration, Black students had raggedy books, but they finished shcool. After integration, Black students still had raggedy books, and now they didn't even finish the damn book.

Before integration, money stayed in the Black community because you shopped with each other. After integration, money leaves the Black community in six minutes because you can buy white shit now.

Before integration, Black men married Black women and raised Black families. After integration, Black men chased white women, vice versa, and what happened to the Black family?

Before integration, Black people didn't get paid as much as white people, and had worse jobs. After integration, ain't shit changed.

Before integration, Black people couldn't live in white neighberhoods, so they had to make the best out of the hood. After integration, Black people ould move into white neighberhoods, but all the white folks would move out right after, so it turned into a hood.

Before integration, Black people thought white people were pretty fucked up. After integration, Black people think white people are pretty fucking great.

Before integration, Black woemn looked like Black women. After integration, Black women look like white women.

Before integration, there were about 8 gay Black men out of ever 1,000. After integration, it's more like 80 out of 100. And of the 20 left, 10 are in jail and 5 are crackheads.

Black Man
06-12-2009, 08:37 AM
Joining the ones who beat you won't make your life better.

diggy
06-12-2009, 02:29 PM
Was integration a thing blacks wanted, or was it forced on them by politicians?

RALPH WIGGUM
06-12-2009, 03:18 PM
"I think that every slave could say that, that slavery was messed up, but that segregation is better. And that segregation is messed up, but that integration is better. I say that integration is messed up and that freedom is better."
Eldridge Cleaver.

food for thought
06-15-2009, 07:15 PM
bump

Before integration, Black students went to shabby Black schools where they were taught by Black teachers who relly cared. After intergation, Black students either went to shabby Black schools where they were taught by white teacher who didn't give a fuck OR nice white shools where they grew up being treated like shit.

Before integration, Blacks couldn't eat with them, party with them, or live with them, so you created a sense of family with your own people. After integration, Blacks could go hang around whoever they wanted, so you started liking that better than doing it with your own kind (even though they still didn't like you!)

Before integration, Black students had raggedy books, but they finished shcool. After integration, Black students still had raggedy books, and now they didn't even finish the damn book.

Before integration, money stayed in the Black community because you shopped with each other. After integration, money leaves the Black community in six minutes because you can buy white shit now.

Before integration, Black men married Black women and raised Black families. After integration, Black men chased white women, vice versa, and what happened to the Black family?

Before integration, Black people didn't get paid as much as white people, and had worse jobs. After integration, ain't shit changed.

Before integration, Black people couldn't live in white neighberhoods, so they had to make the best out of the hood. After integration, Black people ould move into white neighberhoods, but all the white folks would move out right after, so it turned into a hood.

Before integration, Black people thought white people were pretty fucked up. After integration, Black people think white people are pretty fucking great.

Before integration, Black woemn looked like Black women. After integration, Black women look like white women.

Before integration, there were about 8 gay Black men out of ever 1,000. After integration, it's more like 80 out of 100. And of the 20 left, 10 are in jail and 5 are crackheads.

jewels!!

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster
06-15-2009, 07:27 PM
So, it is the assertion of this thread that black people had it better in this country during the pre-integration era.

While this rhetoric is militant, can ANY of the black people on this board, who probably come from lovely homes with supportive families, who have probably received some form of extended liberal schooling, and have every opportunity in the world to succeed, REALLY agree with this assertion?

LORD NOSE
06-15-2009, 08:16 PM
can ANY of the black people on this board, who probably come from lovely homes with supportive families, who have probably received some form of extended liberal schooling, and have every opportunity in the world to succeed, REALLY agree with this assertion?

clueless

diggy
06-15-2009, 08:38 PM
D does not know black people in real life.

He must think we are a bunch of whiners and complainers.

Fuck him!

RandyP
06-16-2009, 10:48 PM
This thread made me think of this joint.
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So fuck a demonstration, seekin reparations
That's why some felt better off during segregation
We still mingle with others but it's deeper cuz
At least back then we knew who our people was

But I can't comment on shit. Except for the fact we can talk about how shit used to be.

Or make it be.

Peace

Charles Barry
06-16-2009, 11:44 PM
Great post.

LORD NOSE
06-17-2009, 05:20 AM
J- Live is that brother

food for thought
06-17-2009, 03:06 PM
if you dont know where youre coming from u dont know where ure going.

the integration of schools stripped the africans in america of the knowledge of their history of kings and queens, the compications and dreadful experiences of the first slaves that were brought here, etc

crucial information that would mend the way we interact with each other.

we lost our self-knowledge.

diggy
06-17-2009, 04:16 PM
if you dont know where youre coming from u dont know where ure going.

the integration of schools stripped the africans in america of the knowledge of their history of kings and queens, the compications and dreadful experiences of the first slaves that were brought here, etc

crucial information that would mend the way we interact with each other.

we lost our self-knowledge.

It was the responsibility of those who knew of our history (elders in the family) to teach culture and history. We as blacks like to point the finger to others as causes of our problems. What were the people who have been thru those times teaching their children about it if anything?

Black Man
06-17-2009, 04:37 PM
if you dont know where youre coming from u dont know where ure going.

the integration of schools stripped the africans in america of the knowledge of their history of kings and queens, the compications and dreadful experiences of the first slaves that were brought here, etc

crucial information that would mend the way we interact with each other.

we lost our self-knowledge.

Integration didn't strip original people of their knowledge of history or their self-knowledge, that knowledge was stripped from them long before integration. That's part of making a slave.

It was the responsibility of those who knew of our history (elders in the family) to teach culture and history. We as blacks like to point the finger to others as causes of our problems. What were the people who have been thru those times teaching their children about it if anything?

What slave knew our history or culture like that? That knowledge was gone way before integration. Again, these are slaves.

LORD NOSE
06-17-2009, 06:19 PM
all of this is for a reason

what is that reason ?

diggy
06-17-2009, 06:29 PM
all of this is for a reason

what is that reason ?

Are you referring to the concealment of our history?

LORD NOSE
06-17-2009, 07:55 PM
that and everything else behind that and in front of that

how are we looking at the situation ?

we have been given a mirror -

who or what was the first mirror ?

the atom was cracked in half

one half weaker than the other

what are the results and how painful is the process ?

diggy
06-17-2009, 08:21 PM
that and everything else behind that and in front of that

how are we looking at the situation ?

we have been given a mirror -

who or what was the first mirror ?

the atom was cracked in half

one half weaker than the other

what are the results and how painful is the process ?


I do not know what you are asking. Could you elaborate?

LORD NOSE
06-17-2009, 08:32 PM
the black and white conflict

part of a divine plan or no ?

what was the original conflict in Allah ?

diggy
06-17-2009, 08:45 PM
I don't know.

food for thought
06-18-2009, 01:25 AM
Integration didn't strip original people of their knowledge of history or their self-knowledge, that knowledge was stripped from them long before integration. That's part of making a slave.


ofcourse,


but our history classes could have taught these lessons.

adopting an afrocentric curriculum by teaching the lessons and research of Diop, Kamalu, and Obenga (amongst others) would have brought the topics back into intellectual discussion

Uncle Steezo
06-18-2009, 05:39 AM
Peace
Our struggle is not divine. Battling external forces is beneath the divine. Externals are malleable but exist as obstacles becvause we facilitate them.

It has been revealed to me that the conflict is rooted in something deeper than something as superficial as race.

Its a fundamental absence of role models for humanity.

This revelation prevents me from condemning the caucasian to an evil existence.

To oversimplify, we are all capable of criminal behavior. Programming, the programmer and the program seperate the criminal from the rest.


If I am God, then nothing is beyond my realm of influence and power. I can civilize a savage by acting as God.

But before I can do that I must master self.

The savage is easily swayed as he is motivated by desire and emotion. He is incapable of higher states of conciousness because he lacks the faculties to attain them.

Once you awaken your divinity, the externals become clay in your hands. Once you perfect your divine faculties, you aint even on the battlefield.



The conflict ceases to exist when you no longer value the things they use to enslave you.


Think about it.

food for thought
06-21-2009, 12:27 AM
Once you awaken your divinity, the externals become clay in your hands. Once you perfect your divine faculties, you aint even on the battlefield.

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how does one accomplish this?