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KaramelSundae
07-21-2009, 09:14 AM
ok some of you fucks maybe a little to immature for this conversation:



but


How do you feel about marriage?
obiviously it's down the road for most of you guys
but what are your thoughts about it in general?


how old do you picture yourself settling down?
are you the type to just live with your significant other forever
and never really have the title of husband and wife?

growing up and looking at your parents marriage,
do you think that will factor in the decision of wanting to get married?

for example:
some peoples parents have been married and faithful for 10+ yrs,
do you wish to have a marriage like that?
or if your parents have been divorced, does that change your view about marriage?


do you think theres an appropriate "age" to be married?


what do you think about arranged marriages?




BUILD....

Urban_Journalz
07-21-2009, 09:34 AM
ok some of you fucks maybe a little to immature for this conversation:



but


How do you feel about marriage?
obiviously it's down the road for most of you guys
but what are your thoughts about it in general?


how old do you picture yourself settling down?
are you the type to just live with your significant other forever
and never really have the title of husband and wife?

growing up and looking at your parents marriage,
do you think that will factor in the decision of wanting to get married?

for example:
some peoples parents have been married and faithful for 10+ yrs,
do you wish to have a marriage like that?
or if your parents have been divorced, does that change your view about marriage?


do you think theres an appropriate "age" to be married?


what do you think about arranged marriages?




BUILD....

Fuck marriage.

I'm kidding.

Seriously, in general, it's a beautiful thing. One of the MOST beautiful things that we have. I pay no attention to the fact that most people see it as a burden and the end of their, "glory days", because that's the sign of someone who is out of balance.

I don't know how old I picture myself being really. Lately, the more I look at who I am as a person, and the calling that I seem to have in life, I don't think I'll be getting married any time soon, just because I have a lot to do for me and it would only be a hindrance at this point.

I could never live with the love of my life for years on end without the title of Husband and Wife. That to me shows cowardice and not appreciating what I have. Plus, I like strong women, so she wouldn't let that happen just as I wouldn't. Not without asking, "Wtf?" You know?

I grew up without my biological father around and really, it makes no difference to me as far as my decision. If anything, it taught me not to be a punk bitch and take responsibility for my own actions. Also, to be very careful before I do anything that I may not like the result of.

I think anywhere past the age of 20 is appropriate. I say this only because I know some people who were and are very mature at this age. The funny thing is, that they're probably not even onsidering marriage and are too focused on getting themselves together first and foremost.

Arranged marriages are bullshit. Another form of control. Usually the parties are never truely in love, which defeats the entire purpose of the ceremony.

Dope thread.

Peace

Ghost In The 'Lac
07-21-2009, 09:46 AM
some peoples parents have been married and faithful for 10+ yrs,
..

LOL

Is this considered long now? 10 years?
Jesus.
Id say any marriage that doesnt last 20 years minimum has been a failure.

My opinion on marriage is that its simply all about each person locking the other down in a secure financial trap. Thats the only reason people want to get married these days, so they can secure themselves.

Its a selfish and paranoid practise.

Your looking out for yourself. No real relationship needs the word of a preist to complete it, thats fucking medieval and dumb.

If a man has money, the last thing he should be doing is marrying, whearas the woman will not be happy until she is married. Why?

Money.

Its all about cream. because people truly in love would trust they would be together 4ever.

KaramelSundae
07-21-2009, 09:51 AM
Seriously, in general, it's a beautiful thing. One of the MOST beautiful things that we have. I pay no attention to the fact that most people see it as a burden and the end of their, "glory days", because that's the sign of someone who is out of balance.

I don't know how old I picture myself being really. Lately, the more I look at who I am as a person, and the calling that I seem to have in life, I don't think I'll be getting married any time soon, just because I have a lot to do for me and it would only be a hindrance at this point.

I could never live with the love of my life for years on end without the title of Husband and Wife. That to me shows cowardice and not appreciating what I have. Plus, I like strong women, so she wouldn't let that happen just as I wouldn't. Not without asking, "Wtf?" You know?

I grew up without my biological father around and really, it makes no difference to me as far as my decision. If anything, it taught me not to be a punk bitch and take responsibility for my own actions. Also, to be very careful before I do anything that I may not like the result of.

I think anywhere past the age of 20 is appropriate. I say this only because I know some people who were and are very mature at this age. The funny thing is, that they're probably not even onsidering marriage and are too focused on getting themselves together first and foremost.

Arranged marriages are bullshit. Another form of control. Usually the parties are never truely in love, which defeats the entire purpose of the ceremony.

Dope thread.

Peace


nice response...

i agree with a lot of the things you said
im 24 and i got married last year

its definately something you gotta work on
and its not easy
but nothing ever is

i also agree that you gotta at least be over 20
or be really mature
and you could still get married and do what you wanna do
just dont have a kid yet.
your spouse should be able to back you up on whatever goals you have planned for yourself, thats what its all about
its like team work.

and i dont think having a baby is a reason to get married either
my friend got married cuz of her kid when she knew she didnt want to
now her ass is divorced and doesnt have full custody of her child.
smh

i was just saying if your parents marriage affects your own personal decision,
cuz if they got divorced when you were young,
you dont think that would affect your view on marriage
especially if the divorce was ugly and messy?
i think it would be a factor...


but in the end
thats part of life
finding "the one"
having kids
creating a life together as one
and growing old together...

thats what it's all about

KaramelSundae
07-21-2009, 09:54 AM
LOL

Is this considered long now? 10 years?
Jesus.
Id say any marriage that doesnt last 20 years minimum has been a failure.

My opinion on marriage is that its simply all about each person locking the other down in a secure financial trap. Thats the only reason people want to get married these days, so they can secure themselves.

Its a selfish and paranoid practise.

If a man has money, the last thing he should be doing is marrying, whearas the woman will not be happy until she is married. Why?

Money.

Its all about cream. because people truly in love would trust they would be together 4ever.


some women have this dream when their young for the perfect wedding and shit
i was never like that
but to some women thats all they want
to be a wifey
pop kids and be a housewife and mom.

nowadays though
marriage isnt sacred
and thats whats sad
its just divorcing left and right

INF
07-21-2009, 09:54 AM
marriage isnt what it used to be. Its been degraded thru the last few generations to where the shit just dont mean anything in the long run. As far as I see it , its like a roll of the dice.

Ghost In The 'Lac
07-21-2009, 10:08 AM
^peace 2 INF tha god, glad to see your not dead or something else wack

INF
07-21-2009, 10:21 AM
peace ghost. I had to do a lil bid real quick.felt like I was dead though.peace though

Ghost In The 'Lac
07-21-2009, 11:09 AM
aight inf, peace man, thats what the almighty green buddha is there for my man :thumbup:
damn i got some nice tasting weed right now.

LORD NOSE
07-21-2009, 11:49 AM
ok some of you fucks maybe a little to immature for this conversation:



but


How do you feel about marriage?
obiviously it's down the road for most of you guys
but what are your thoughts about it in general?


how old do you picture yourself settling down?
are you the type to just live with your significant other forever
and never really have the title of husband and wife?

growing up and looking at your parents marriage,
do you think that will factor in the decision of wanting to get married?

for example:
some peoples parents have been married and faithful for 10+ yrs,
do you wish to have a marriage like that?
or if your parents have been divorced, does that change your view about marriage?


do you think theres an appropriate "age" to be married?


what do you think about arranged marriages?




BUILD....


love and marriage is work

people look to have this feeling when in love and they stop there

the elders in this society are not known to school the youth on what marriage is and the role they are to play when in marriage

in order to have a successful marriage the couple has to know something about the very nature of man and woman

HANZO
07-21-2009, 01:41 PM
marriage isnt what it used to be. Its been degraded thru the last few generations to where the shit just dont mean anything in the long run. As far as I see it , its like a roll of the dice.

co-sign this.

i come from a culture which is incredibly demanding when it comes to marriage. im not to serious on the whole marriage thing, i split up from my girlfriend of 2 years plus because she started talking about engagement and marriage and i bolted. i didnt want none of that. maybe its because nowadays marriage is perceived as the signal that your 'fun' days are over. i dont necessarily think like that, but it seems to be the general view on marriage these days. so im getting the idea that if i commit to one girl i cant do some of the shit i want to do. plus although im incredibly mature for my age im a person who doesnt take anything seriously at all, and because marriage is a serious thing it jus doesnt go along with my mentality. like the other day my fam went to visit the fam (entire fam) of my brothers proposed wife. and like everyone there was asking me when i was gonna get married and i said i wasnt thinking about marriage any time soon. everyone got shocked, ppl were like "you shouldnt think like that, you should be more serious about it, you should find a good turkish girl and look to settle down" crap like that, even my bro is telling me shit like that.

marriage is a massive gamble nowadays, plus how many girls out there are genuine wifey material??

Cee Oh Vee
07-21-2009, 02:12 PM
Wow.

check two
07-21-2009, 02:19 PM
My grandparents have been married 66 years.

Mumm Ra
07-21-2009, 03:26 PM
I don't see myself getting married (if I ever do) until I'm in my 30's. Late 30's like 35 maybe.
definitely not anytime soon.
oh yeah
and a couple years ago my best female friend asked to get married in 5 years, but she got married since then

INF
07-21-2009, 10:53 PM
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Bobby Budknickers
07-21-2009, 11:16 PM
good to see infinity








i been married about 2 years now, little girl about to be born in like a week and a half


it's fuckin tough sometimes tho, especially in this day and age i'll tell you
through the thick and thin we been in in such a short period of time, and it could get worse at any moment, but i'm doing what i gotta do for the kids. all about the kids.

which, 20 years down the line, when the kids are grown and moved or moving on, leaves alot of people really looking at each other and wondering if they did the right thing staying with each other, i suppose.
cuz honestly there are certain times when i wonder what the fuck i'm doing with anyone monogamously, let alone this great woman who wanted to be with me forever. i know that at this point everything i do is for my the kids, especially my unborn. but probably pretty much the only way i wouldn't be with my wife is if one of us cheated.






i dunno, maybe i'll could contribute some real wisdom about married life 5-10 years from now, i'm sure we'll all still be here amirite ha

for now though, in ways i'm still like a fuckin youngin forreal. but i'm pushing 30, and while i ain't gotta grow up at heart, i still gotta show responsibility and do the right things.
which is easy to write, but alot harder to do in real life, just gotta try.



i'm all for marriage tho.


but having kids should require a license, because there's a rack of people out there who shouldn't procreate lol

Charles Barry
07-22-2009, 05:58 AM
I think the biggest problem with marriage is the legalities that are involved. Instead of it being about a sacred bond between woman and man, most people just view it as "something to do". If the marriage doesn't work out it's no big deal because they can just go sign some papers for a divorce and they're on to the next relationship. It's sad what marriage and the family has become, especially in the black community.

I think marriage is a wonderful thing, but I will personally never do it in the legal sense. If I tell a woman that she's the one I want to be with, she is wifey as far as I'm concerned. I don't need any paper to confirm that. People need to be more selective in their relationships and make sure they're building something with the right person. Choosing to be with one person is a huge commitment and marriage is something that takes a lot of work and sacrifice. It shouldn't be something that you do haphazardly.

KaramelSundae
07-22-2009, 09:51 AM
gzajector and charles are right...


marriage is hard work.

and its really sad
it isnt what it used to be.
instead of divorcing
you gotta really be sure its something you both want to do
you gotta go in it 100%

and i believe that EVERYONE
should live with their significant other before marriage
because like my mama said
you dont really know someone until you've lived with them...
on the other hand my godmother tells me
doesnt matter because if your marrying this person,
your gonna marry them because you like everything about them
good or bad...both are true i guess

LORD NOSE
07-22-2009, 10:49 AM
the more you know someone, the more reasons you'll have to not like them or like them - you'll find out more as time goes - its how you handle your new findings that will determine if you'll break the bond or not - and to be bonded for a long period of time then separating is a very painful process - some people never recover from it -
its a womans nature to want and even demand stability in her mate and most men don't understand this - they don't know how to handle it -

KaramelSundae
07-22-2009, 11:44 PM
you're absolutely right.

Uncle Steezo
07-23-2009, 01:10 AM
i went from single bachelor to two kids (infant and 8 yo) a wife and a house in less than a year.

we never lived together but we were deeply in love and we foolishly thought that love was enough.

well after the afterglow of marrige and a new baby wore off we realized we weren't what eachother expected. i guess thats part of it too. talking about expectations.


i feel bad cause both my parents had a mom and dad till the past 4 years.
my mom and dad have been bf/gf since the 8th fuckin grade(retarded i know) and been married for 35+years.

now here comes gavin breaking the chain of matrimony. but like sunny said and 3000 "thank god for mom and dad stickin true together cause we don't know how"-heyaa

NOBODY talked to me about marriage. my dads just asked me "are you sure?"
everyoneelse was too happy that the wild confirmed bachelor was settling down. (i was known as the diff girl for each day of the week guy in the family. pimp status)

but fuck it.

i already know i will get remarried. i like being married. that life partner hell or high water thing is the shit. but this time around i'll know what the fuck i'm doing.

LORD NOSE
07-23-2009, 01:31 AM
yo - try it again ^ try the marriage again

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space is key also - too much cuddling in bed.....can't get no real sleep like that - small apartment at first - have a schedule - and if you a man, go to work - even if she make bank, you would look stupid asking her for 5 dollars for some little debbies and chips from the store - and understand that she is at her most vulnerable state when she is pregnant or with infant - she needs to have a stable environment and know that she and child will be protected and fed - if you got to get on the bus with stroller and baby, she'll look at you funny - and make you feel like the punk you are - and you'll confirm that youare a punk if you beef with her about it too

LORD NOSE
07-23-2009, 02:36 AM
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Charles Barry
07-23-2009, 02:48 AM
Sunny, how long you been married?

Rollo
07-23-2009, 06:59 AM
I don't really believe in marriage as we understand it now, to me marriage is was and always will be the joining of people in a permanent domestic role.

As for when I want to settle down, I don't know.
I don't date around a lot as it is, so I don't give it much thought.

I don't think anything my parents(I use that term loosely in regard to my father, my moth was my only real parent) did with one another will have anything to do with my actions.
I blocked them out of my life a long time ago and they were more like strangers living in the same house as me.



As for arranged marriages, as long as there is no intent to harm the other person, I really have no problem with them.

KaramelSundae
07-23-2009, 08:43 AM
i mean i think love needs to be there obiviously

a lot of people stay together for the kids
which is a good idea

but when you really think about it
if you guys dont like each other
and can't stand each other

i think its a waste of time
stop faking it and move on
the kids will have to learn
and in this day and age
its divorce is more common than marriage
which is very very sad

but really dont keep yourself
from being with the one your truly supposed to be with...


but i guess i'd change my mind about it
if i were in that situation
and if i had bambinos

LORD NOSE
07-23-2009, 01:43 PM
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Face of the Golden Falcon
07-23-2009, 10:33 PM
i mean i think love needs to be there obiviously

a lot of people stay together for the kids
which is a good idea

but when you really think about it
if you guys dont like each other
and can't stand each other

i think its a waste of time
stop faking it and move on
the kids will have to learn
and in this day and age
its divorce is more common than marriage
which is very very sad

but really dont keep yourself
from being with the one your truly supposed to be with...


but i guess i'd change my mind about it
if i were in that situation
and if i had bambinos

How do you know who your supposed to be with?

Most people have the mind set that "the one" will bring you nothing but joy and happiness. That life will be a fairytale. And when life doesn't turn out to be "happily ever after", they claim the love is gone and they want out.

Love never goes anywhere. If it was there to begin with then it still is. Love is unconditional.

IMO "the one" is the person who helps you grow and you help them grow. What's the point of being with someone who likes everything you like, has the same opinion as you all the time, but never challenges you.

I know me and my Queen are supposed to be together because it's hard got damn work being together. But if we weren't then I wouldn't be the man I am and am becoming.

That being said you have to have a strong foundation. You can't face the challenges of being together, together, if you don't both want to grow and mature.

SHEM HETEP

KaramelSundae
07-23-2009, 10:46 PM
i agree...


but like for some people i know
who are in that situation
obiviously that person isn't the one

and like you said it has to be someone who will ride it out with you
together as a team you overcome whatever it is you gotta get through
thats who you gotta be with
someone that helps you become a better person
it takes two
cuz we all know you cant change someone who doesnt wanna change.

like i have a friend who got married just cuz her mom forced her to
she said "your not bringing this baby into the world without being married"
end of story.
she knew she didnt wanna get married and she knew she didnt wanna be with him
yet she did it anyways
thats probably stupidity on her part for going through it
but situations like that is what im referring too.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
07-24-2009, 12:10 AM
i don't feel that marriage should be forced on anyone, it should only happen if both partners are in love and want to be together.

i used to be against the idea of arranged marriages, but not all arranged marriages are the same. the marriages where the male and female have the final choice of who they get married to are fine by me.

i have mixed feelings about marriage. i want to get married but i'm scared of risking marriage with someone who's just going to run out on me and break my heart.

Ecuanime
07-26-2009, 01:48 AM
Man, I got a woman that I can build with. We both came from nothing and now we both are college graduates, pursuing our M.A., got a beautifull daughter, house, and we are committed to supporting each other through thick and thin.

Someone in this forum said you can't build a marriage on love alone, that's absolutely correct. You got to make sure there is a strong foundation of trust and communication.

Even the worst days when we are arguing and can't stand to look at each other we know we are blessed to have each other.

set_rule
07-26-2009, 01:29 PM
Co-sign ...... this statement
"Even the worst days when we are arguing and can't stand to look at each other we know we are blessed to have each other"

KaramelSundae
07-26-2009, 01:35 PM
yeah that is a beautiful quote cuz its soooo true!!


they'll be days when you wanna strangle each other
and then they'll be days when you just look at each other
and feel all warm and tingly haha

LORD NOSE
07-26-2009, 07:30 PM
the funny thing is that when you try and find the root of the cause of yalls feelings when it gets like that, its usually something so simple - like not getting enough sleep, or eating too much - once you realize the source, you can just admit to your partner that you are just feeling sluggish and you lack energy due to you either not getting enough sleep or eating too much - when both are feeling this way, just take a nap and be quiet - no need in getting into a big argument - and the words back and forth is usually due to both parties trying grab energy from one another - but thats another thread

Mumm Ra
07-26-2009, 07:39 PM
it's next to impossible for me to get emotionally argumentative, I'm just naturally very calm and peaceful
not once did I get into it with my girl like that
and it's extremely rare anyone gets into it with me
there was only one time my ex really felt angry about something (though I didn't feel it was justified) and she ended up apologizing later that day.

Visionz
07-27-2009, 01:30 AM
but having kids should require a license, because there's a rack of people out there who shouldn't procreate lol
^this is the realest right here, a lot of people get married when they shouldn't, even more have kids. I've seen some people that break my heart cuz you look at their kid and just think that the odds of them doing anything with their lives is completely stacked against 'em from jump.



As for marriage, I'm all for it you just don't want to rush into anything. Me and my wife were together for seven years before officially tying the knot. My parents got divorced and shit was rough on me so I wanted to make sure I wasn't placing myself in a situation where I'm potentially putting my unborn children through the same thing. Open communication and trust outside of love itself are the two biggest things to making a marriage work. If any of those are missing then be wary of who you're with. The Mrs/Mr Perfect really isn't out there for anyone for we all have flaws but there's more than likely someone out there that's perfect for you. Me and wife balance each other out very well, strong in the aspects where the other is lacking. That's the beauty of marriage if its a healthy union, a real team effort when it comes to making life itself better.

theDZA
07-30-2009, 02:08 PM
i think that a love between two people is beautiful, and announcing that to the world through marriage is also beautiful.

"growing up and looking at your parents marriage,
do you think that will factor in the decision of wanting to get married?"

^ I think that when i look around at a lot of people’s marriages, in and outside of my family, although couples often look happy with each other, the spark does seem to fade for people who have been married for many years. I have never been the type of person to treat girls badly, and even though a lot of my friends think i’m a fag for it, i really look forward to falling in love and finding a woman that i want to spend the rest of my life with, but i am scared that the spark will eventually go...and it will turn from a great love for one another, into a situation where it's more like room mates who kiss and fuck sometimes and talk about the most pointless of things. I will definitely try my best once i am married to make sure we always feel that connection that bought us to one another in the first place, and remember how strong our feelings for each other are.


"do you think theres an appropriate "age" to be married?"

^ No, people should marry whenever they want to


"what do you think about arranged marriages?"

^ i think it is disgusting to put two people together, instead of letting them find true love. One of my closest friends is a Muslim, and her mom and dad are the result of an arranged marriage. One day i said to her:

"you know cuz your mom and dad were forced to marry each other, would you say that they are in love or not?"

and she said

"i think they have learnt to love each other over time..."

I think that no-one should have to fall in love with someone 'over time', and it saddens me to think of people in situations where they never got to experience true love for themselves, instead they are just forced to marry, usually to keep wealth within certain families - so these people who arrange marriages are effectively choosing money over the emotions of their son/daughter

SG
08-15-2009, 04:59 PM
Modern Marriage

Because the family unit provides the framework for most human social activity, and since it is the foundation on which social organization is based in most cultures, marriage is closely tied to economics, law, and religion. The sociocultural implications of marriage, sexuality, family, and parent-progeny relations today form an important branch of behavioral science.
The institution of marriage has altered fundamentally in Western societies as a result of social changes brought about by the Reformation and the Industrial Revolution. The rise of a strong middle class and the growth of democracy gradually brought tolerance for romantic marriages based on the free choice of the partners involved. Arranged marriages, which had been the accepted form of marriage almost everywhere throughout history, eventually ceased to predominate in Western societies, although they continued to persist as the norm in aristocratic society to the mid-20th century. The most extreme application of the custom of arranged marriages was in prerevolutionary China, where a bride and groom often met for the first time only on their wedding day. Among the social changes that have affected marriage in modern times are the increase in premarital sexual intercourse occasioned by the relaxation of sexual taboos and the gradual rise in the average marriage age; the increase in the number of wives pursuing careers outside the home, which has led to the changed economic status of women; and the liberalization of divorce laws, including the legalization of divorce for the first time in Italy in 1970. Also significant have been the legalization of abortion, the improvement and increased accessibility of contraceptives, the removal of legal and social handicaps for children born out of wedlock, and rapid changes in the accepted concepts of male and female roles in society.



Modern Family

Historical studies have shown that family structure has been less changed by urbanization and industrialization than was once supposed. The nuclear family was the most prevalent preindustrial unit and is still the basic unit of social organization. The modern family differs from earlier traditional forms, however, in its functions, composition, and life cycle and in the roles of husbands and wives.
The only function of the family that continues to survive all change is the provision of affection and emotional support by and to all its members, particularly infants and young children. Specialized institutions now perform many of the other functions that were once performed by the agrarian family: economic production, education, religion, and recreation. Jobs are usually separate from the family group; family members often work in different occupations and in locations away from the home. Education is provided by the state or by private groups. Religious training and recreational activities are available outside the home, although both still have a place in family life. The family is still responsible for the socialization of children. Even in this capacity, however, the influence of peers and of the mass media has assumed a large role.

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Longbongcilvaringz
08-17-2009, 04:36 AM
marriage is nothing but either a legal or religious arrangement.

CharlesJones
08-21-2009, 11:30 AM
I'm never getting married because i don't trust women hahahahahahaha. With most women nowadays, it's all about a man's financial status. If a man got a nice car, nice house or apartment, a lot of money, women will get with you but if you don't have those things, you can forget about getting any attention from cute women.

CharlesJones
08-21-2009, 11:58 AM
Plus another thing i don't like about black women is that most of them wanna have kids and they don't think about their job situation and their financial situation. That's the problem now with these black women in the hood that got kids. So many of their dumb asses got kids, don't wanna get a job, living on welfare and raising these kids by themselves because they always pick the worst black men to get involved with.

LORD NOSE
05-13-2010, 11:50 PM
how many of them have you talked to Chuck ?

TheBoarzHeadBoy
05-14-2010, 02:30 PM
I don't know why marriage is considered so hard. I'm way too young right now for it of course, but in my opinion marriage isn't the failure, it's the people who get into it.

Like I know for a fact right now that if I find someone worthy of marriage at some point that's game over. I'd never seek a divorce, I don't think I'd cheat, and I'd work damn hard to please her. The only way I could foresee a marriage falling apart is on the girl.

I think marriage should be mid twenties to early thirties. Men generally reach maturity in their mid twenties and by thirty they're ready to give up the woman to woman lifestyle. By that point it's not just about marrying for "love" and a pretty face. You're old enough for look for a life partner.

Divorce is an opt out. You can go broke and then make your money back. You can't get your life back. I believe in love, but I don't think a lot of young people understand what love is. You don't love that hot girl who has things in common with you. That's a friend. Marriage is on the permanence of actual family. You can't divorce your brother. You can try, but avoiding them doesn't undo the fact they're your blood.

I think marriage should be something you don't quit on. I also think marriage should be a final step in a long road. You got married at 16 when you only live to 30-40. Now we live to 80 and people are getting married at 20 or younger. That's too young. Double the lifespan double the point of marriage. Then have your ideal 1-3 kids (I think more then 5 is foolish because you can't parent them.) But I also think people need to be open to any and all relationships, even if marriage is the highest form of relationship.

Visionz
05-14-2010, 03:31 PM
marriage is nothing but either a legal or religious arrangement.

when you're actually in a marriage (hopefully a healthy one) you'll know it's so much more.

WARPATH
05-14-2010, 04:06 PM
Marriage should be simple.

"This is my wife so nobody fucks with her without fucking with me."

Divorce Should be just as simple:

"This is no longer my wife. She's lazy and doesn't read to the kids. If anyone else wants her have at it, cause i'm not fucking with her anymore."

LORD NOSE
05-14-2010, 07:38 PM
lol you wild

SHRAP
07-27-2010, 03:14 AM
love and marriage are for sissy tit suckers that would drink estrogen daily if it came in a can and was sold at corner stores and gas stations. real motha fuckas plow a path of mothafuckin destruction through any lil harlot that crosses their path like a true mother fuckin conqueror hero.
even if it existed, the mythical trustworthy touch of a loving woman will not harden your skin so it can deflect bullets fella. u want to survive, shoot first and aim for the head cuz them bitches cant touch u when they punk ass is already dead

snapple
07-27-2010, 09:55 AM
marriage is something sacred....like people are saying though....its been degraded...

marriage today is just something you do.....its losing the meaning.....

i don't think there is a particular time or age....it all depends on the strength of the relationship....you should spend a few years with somebody though before you jump into marriage most definite.

as for my parents theyre a bad example cause they weren't married, but i definitely want to get married some day....

TheBoarzHeadBoy
07-28-2010, 10:33 PM
love and marriage are for sissy tit suckers that would drink estrogen daily if it came in a can and was sold at corner stores and gas stations. real motha fuckas plow a path of mothafuckin destruction through any lil harlot that crosses their path like a true mother fuckin conqueror hero.
even if it existed, the mythical trustworthy touch of a loving woman will not harden your skin so it can deflect bullets fella. u want to survive, shoot first and aim for the head cuz them bitches cant touch u when they punk ass is already dead

smh

Marriage is the ultimate mark of manhood. You're talking childish pussy shit. A man is somebody who wakes up every morning, gets ready for the day, tries to have breakfast with his kids, makes sure they get on the bus, kisses his wife goodbye, and leaves for work. Then spends his entire day drinking caffeinated beverages in an ideal 50/50 split of working hard and pretending to work, goes to lunch, or even better eats what his wife made for him, grinds out the rest of the day, and comes home. Greets him family, sits down for dinner, talks to his kids about their day and shit, tries to stay in the loop, then spends the rest of his night either helping his kids with homework and shit or watching TV with them or whatever then sends them off to bed, gets ready for bed himself, and then pounds the shit out of his wife.

You know, nineteen-fifties good feeling shit...

He does that five days a week, spends Saturday doing yard work and handyman shit since the kids will be off gallivanting, and then spends the evening reading a book smoking his pipe in the den, and on Sundays they get ready for church and then makes sure his kids do their homework and shit. Being there to talk men shit with a son, or father daughter shit with a girl, or romancing your wife. That's manhood.

SHRAP
07-29-2010, 12:07 AM
smh

Marriage is the ultimate mark of manhood. You're talking childish pussy shit. A man is somebody who wakes up every morning, gets ready for the day, tries to have breakfast with his kids, makes sure they get on the bus, kisses his wife goodbye, and leaves for work. Then spends his entire day drinking caffeinated beverages in an ideal 50/50 split of working hard and pretending to work, goes to lunch, or even better eats what his wife made for him, grinds out the rest of the day, and comes home. Greets him family, sits down for dinner, talks to his kids about their day and shit, tries to stay in the loop, then spends the rest of his night either helping his kids with homework and shit or watching TV with them or whatever then sends them off to bed, gets ready for bed himself, and then pounds the shit out of his wife.

You know, nineteen-fifties good feeling shit...

He does that five days a week, spends Saturday doing yard work and handyman shit since the kids will be off gallivanting, and then spends the evening reading a book smoking his pipe in the den, and on Sundays they get ready for church and then makes sure his kids do their homework and shit. Being there to talk men shit with a son, or father daughter shit with a girl, or romancing your wife. That's manhood.

try doing all that shit minus the part about the wife and kids cuz the wife in question is too busy fucking other guys and lying about it for the simple reason of her having a vagina disabling her from ever telling the truth about anything

if u trust a bitch u are stupid PERIOD

Paranoid
07-29-2010, 05:34 AM
^doesn't get pussy

cutn' heads
07-29-2010, 07:49 AM
i can get down with this. marraige isnt for everyone. a lot of dudes are far too weak and insecure to allow themselves to feel love to the point that they could get hurt. thats why they front about never loving and trusting a woman.

i got married last year, so im no expert. shit is hard sometimes but it's probably the best decision i ever made. my wife held me down for 9 years before we got hitched. before i met her i was on a dangerous path... fuck, i dont even get speeding tickets anymore. im sure that once we have kids things will change and there will be times when im feeling trapped and the wanderlust kicks in, but right now it's all good. it's definitely not for everyone though.

INF
07-29-2010, 11:15 AM
marriage is the worst thing in the whole world.you legally bind yourself to somebody and at any point one of you could just fuck it up beyond control and then there you are ... broken and beaten down and ending up owing more to get out then what you put down to get in.


I would advise people that are considering marriage to just throw their soul away to a religion instead of another person. At least you can break clean from religion.

cutn' heads
07-29-2010, 11:47 AM
marriage is the worst thing in the whole world.you legally bind yourself to somebody and at any point one of you could just fuck it up beyond control and then there you are ... broken and beaten down and ending up owing more to get out then what you put down to get in.


I would advise people that are considering marriage to just throw their soul away to a religion instead of another person. At least you can break clean from religion.

financial loses can be recouped in time. if you allow yourself to be that dependent of finances than you deserve what you get. i have been broke. i have had money. but i never let either one dictate my happiness or deter me from living my life...

i can understand philisophical reasons against marraige, but avoiding it for financial reasons is stupid. marrying for financial reasons is equally as stupid also...

INF
07-29-2010, 02:01 PM
wasn't talking about funds.I mean the mental aspect of how marriage can ruin someone.

TheBoarzHeadBoy
07-29-2010, 02:06 PM
try doing all that shit minus the part about the wife and kids cuz the wife in question is too busy fucking other guys and lying about it for the simple reason of her having a vagina disabling her from ever telling the truth about anything

if u trust a bitch u are stupid PERIOD

If you're insecure it's because you aren't doing it right. Maybe get your shit together and the girl won't feel the want to cheat. Or you could just get a bigger dick...

i can get down with this. marraige isnt for everyone. a lot of dudes are far too weak and insecure to allow themselves to feel love to the point that they could get hurt. thats why they front about never loving and trusting a woman.

i got married last year, so im no expert. shit is hard sometimes but it's probably the best decision i ever made. my wife held me down for 9 years before we got hitched. before i met her i was on a dangerous path... fuck, i dont even get speeding tickets anymore. im sure that once we have kids things will change and there will be times when im feeling trapped and the wanderlust kicks in, but right now it's all good. it's definitely not for everyone though.

I agree. Breathing isn't for everyone either. Some people don't belong in society. Whichever wise ass made shooting people illegal is a killjoy. I want the old west. Too many people these days fucking around with no repercussions. I blame the liberals, but that's another story for another day.

marriage is the worst thing in the whole world.you legally bind yourself to somebody and at any point one of you could just fuck it up beyond control and then there you are ... broken and beaten down and ending up owing more to get out then what you put down to get in.


I would advise people that are considering marriage to just throw their soul away to a religion instead of another person. At least you can break clean from religion.

I disagree. While I think the legal aspect of marriage is foolish. I think it's for the best. I don't think you need anyone's permission to be married, I think all marriages should be designed like common law marriage. If you want to see a priest fine, but marriage is more of a partnering then anything else. However I don't think it should be something done lightly or undone easily. Life's not supposed to be fun or easy. Marriage is just something people do. Ultra-liberated relationships work until she's pregnant. Realistically regardless of what the law says you can't get a divorce once there are kids. You're bound together for life. May as well try to make it work. I just think the whole separated parents and step parents shit is unfair to the kids.

financial loses can be recouped in time. if you allow yourself to be that dependent of finances than you deserve what you get. i have been broke. i have had money. but i never let either one dictate my happiness or deter me from living my life...

i can understand philisophical reasons against marraige, but avoiding it for financial reasons is stupid. marrying for financial reasons is equally as stupid also...

See that's a good perspective. Way I see it, life's chess and we're all pawns moving around a big chessboard. We have control in that we can change columns in certain scenarios, but ultimately we're stuck moving forwards, we can't go back, and we have no control over that bishop sucker punching us in the balls. Most people will never reach the far side of the board, and only those people will be able to do what they want. But that doesn't mean the rest of us can't be happy or make the most of it.

Face of the Golden Falcon
07-30-2010, 11:51 PM
try doing all that shit minus the part about the wife and kids cuz the wife in question is too busy fucking other guys and lying about it for the simple reason of her having a vagina disabling her from ever telling the truth about anything

if u trust a bitch u are stupid PERIOD

...Your questioning other peoples manhood? Not only are you so much of a "sissy tit sucker" that you admit your afraid of having your trust abused and not being man enough to be able to handle it, but you aren't even man enough to put yourself in a situation where there is any chance of that happening to begin with...

or..

^doesn't get pussy

...this.

HETEPU

SHRAP
07-31-2010, 12:27 AM
u guys are fucking stupid to think that there is no such thing as a bitch that u can turn the fuck out who will turn around and fuck you up anyway. women are whores by nature and u really want to be the bitch of a bitch?

TheBoarzHeadBoy
07-31-2010, 01:03 AM
Yeah, there are plenty of stupid bitches. There are just as many stupid guys. Your attitude is as bad as what do. Its pretty obvious if a girl is using you. Just keep your boys. They'll be your compass. A mans buds are his guide in life. I give my bros advice all the time with chicks and they do the same for me. If I know their bitch is good I'll tell them not to fuck it up and if she's a cunt im all over that telling him to break her heart.

Like one of my boys just broke up with his girlfriend because her pussy was too tight and i tried advising him against it because that seems crazy, but he said he can barely even get it in. And I was like "whats she working with a keyhole?" But he said hes even warmed her up and she was still way too tight and I gave him my stamp of broproval and he did work. I was looking out for my boys interests because he's been sort of going out with her for a while and they'd hooked up off and one for like a year so I thought he was out of his mind but if you can't even have sex and shit whats the point. Getting brain is nice but that shits fucked and I want my boy to be slaying his fair share not trapped in some stagnant shit.

SG
12-27-2010, 11:52 PM
the more you know someone, the more reasons you'll have to not like them or like them - you'll find out more as time goes - its how you handle your new findings that will determine if you'll break the bond or not - and to be bonded for a long period of time then separating is a very painful process - some people never recover from it -
its a womans nature to want and even demand stability in her mate and most men don't understand this - they don't know how to handle it -

Most definitely "elder talk"

How do you know who your supposed to be with?

Most people have the mind set that "the one" will bring you nothing but joy and happiness. That life will be a fairytale. And when life doesn't turn out to be "happily ever after", they claim the love is gone and they want out.

Love never goes anywhere. If it was there to begin with then it still is. Love is unconditional.

IMO "the one" is the person who helps you grow and you help them grow. What's the point of being with someone who likes everything you like, has the same opinion as you all the time, but never challenges you.

I know me and my Queen are supposed to be together because it's hard got damn work being together. But if we weren't then I wouldn't be the man I am and am becoming.

That being said you have to have a strong foundation. You can't face the challenges of being together, together, if you don't both want to grow and mature.

SHEM HETEP

Most definitely "knowledge of self"

Dokuro
12-28-2010, 06:07 PM
i'm 4 years shackled and i love it

only wished she would have proposed better

we were on the couch playing soul caliber and she just said wanna get married
and i said ya

LORD NOSE
12-28-2010, 08:44 PM
i'm 4 years shackled and i love it

only wished she would have proposed better

we were on the couch playing soul caliber and she just said wanna get married
and i said ya


lol - don't spend too much time together

TheBoarzHeadBoy
12-28-2010, 11:52 PM
i'm 4 years shackled and i love it

only wished she would have proposed better

we were on the couch playing soul caliber and she just said wanna get married
and i said ya

Naw that's nice.

Fatal Guillotine
06-04-2012, 07:48 AM
up

Big Smokes
06-04-2012, 09:28 AM
i dont know about marriage

one day though


maybe

D.projectile
10-06-2012, 07:49 AM
people approach marriage on sum left brained shit. thats a problem

knewcheeze
10-06-2012, 10:05 AM
Marriage is like the Bible and Quran, prophets and messengers....its for weak minded people

if you and your partner are truly joined together you will stay together forever and you need no other intermediaries to make that happen!!!!!

hashashin
10-06-2012, 10:24 AM
Marriage is like the Bible and Quran, prophets and messengers....its for weak minded people

if you and your partner are truly joined together you will stay together forever and you need no other intermediaries to make that happen!!!!!

True, if you love someone then you shouldn't have to go through the whole process and need a ring to prove it and a priest to confirm it. But then again it's nice to have something to make it official and a day to remember even though it can cause a lot of unnecessary expense and stress! Can't really see myself ever being married now though I would with the right person if thats what they wanted

knewcheeze
10-06-2012, 10:32 AM
yeah eye must admit if whoever it is da universe blesses da god with wanted to get married eye would do it

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-06-2012, 10:32 AM
marriage will only be an issue when there are kids involved. unmarried people and their kids don't get the same rights as married people when it comes to the law.

check two
10-06-2012, 10:35 AM
The bridezillas out there scare me.

hashashin
10-06-2012, 10:38 AM
marriage will only be an issue when there are kids involved. unmarried people and their kids don't get the same rights as married people when it comes to the law.

Thats definatly true as well! From a female pov would u wanna get married Trix if u found the one or would u just be happy being with that person?

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-06-2012, 10:43 AM
i don't know. if i had kids with them then i probably would.

knewcheeze
10-06-2012, 11:17 AM
The bridezillas out there scare me.

whats the difference beetween bride zolla and a 5....5 dolla.....5 dolla blow job givin ass hooker????

not much

THE W
10-06-2012, 11:18 AM
commitment and accountability are a muthfucka.

best to stay away from these two things that come with marriage in case things get challenging and you wanna bail.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
10-06-2012, 11:21 AM
if i get married then it would only be for the protection of my children's rights.

diggy
10-06-2012, 12:48 PM
Marriage is like the Bible and Quran, prophets and messengers....its for weak minded people

if you and your partner are truly joined together you will stay together forever and you need no other intermediaries to make that happen!!!!!

So true. I guess those other 'marriages' are not really real, just business deals.

D.projectile
10-08-2012, 06:21 AM
ego's gotta be compromised for any sign of love surface

someone gimme a breakdown of the word marriage..

D.projectile
10-08-2012, 06:23 AM
Mr falcon come thru..