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ratty mayonnaise
09-18-2005, 12:35 PM
Peace

I know I will get shitted on for this, but facts and information need to be pointed out,, no matter how much it might destroy your sence of reality.

TWO WAYS OF READING HURRICANE KATRINA
I GO FOR THE UNNATURAL DISASTER


there is another way of looking at the Asian tsunami and the catastrophic hurricane in the United States. The key way the public is misled is through the suppression of knowledge – not least the knowledge of what is technologically possible. For instance, if I have technology that can affect the weather and you don’t know this technology exists you will, of course, assume that every weather extreme is a ‘natural’ disaster. But the fact is that the technological means to manipulate the weather has been around for decades.

the Illuminati plan is to create maximum chaos to instil maximum fear to create a sense of maximum dependency on authority. They want multi-levelled chaos to justify the imposition of marshal law, ‘holding’ (concentration) camps, centralised dictatorship, and the Orwellian global state in all its forms. The engineered terrorism and the ‘war on terrorism’ are, in this regard, part of the same agenda that includes crashing the world economy, bringing the United States into conflict with China, and ‘natural’ catastrophes like New Orleans. The idea is to create so much upheaval and chaos that a centralised global government with its own army etc., is seen as the only way to bring, to quote the Freemasons’ motto, ‘Order out of Chaos’.

In terms of earthquakes and hurricanes they certainly have the means. Nikola Tesla, who invented or discovered, radio, television, radar, neon light, alternating current, particle beams, among much else, was able to manipulate the weather in the early part of the 20th century. He was well known to police in Greenwich Village responding to complaints from terrified neighbours about the lightening bolts originating from the top of his building. The lightning bolts in many early horror films were produced with Tesla technology. not to mention H.A.A.R.P



Over the decades weather ‘modification’ has developed to an ever advanced potential for controlling patterns and triggering specific events. In 1997 the U.S. Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, told a conference at the University of Georgia:

‘Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations and it's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts.’

if you want to know more

WEATHER CONTROL - SCALAR ELECTRO-MAGNETICS: OWNING THE WEATHER BY 2025 http://www.freepressinternational.com/wc.html (http://www.freepressinternational.com/wc.html)

anywho! ‘Terrorists’ can do that, Mr. Cohen, and yet government agencies and the miltary with multi billion dollar annual budgets can’t do the same?? What Cohen was revealing there is the extent to which the technology is now available to create earthquakes, tsunamis and hurricanes that can target specific locations


This Internet article provides more detail on how it can be done:

The weather control referred to by Defense Secretary Cohen is often achieved by using one or more scalar interferometers to produce slow heating in a selected small area of the atmosphere, e.g. in a chosen location over the United States. That heating produces air expansion, reduces the air's density, and thus produces a "low pressure" area (ground pressure measurement). Simultaneously, at other selected areas, slow cooling over a selected area is produced, resulting in more dense air and therefore a "high pressure" area as measured on the ground. By slowly moving these highs and lows around, the jet streams can be entrained and deviated - and in fact "steered". By altering and steering the jet streams, one can "steer the weather". On July 4, 1976, apparently as an icon gift from the Russians for our U.S. bicentennial, regular engineering of the weather over North America and the United States was initiated (the first tests were apparently in 1967). It is still ongoing. The Russian weather engineering has also been steadily expanded over the territory of other nations, and has added cooling and heating of selected areas of ocean water as well. In short, it now involves "energy tickling" and thus "temperature alteration" of El Nino and La Nina.’ from: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/project138.html


The Haarp project (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Programme) in Alaska is often mentioned with relation to weather control, but it goes much further than that – including the manipulation of weather from space. I have listed some websites and articles here to give you a better idea of the potential that is available for triggering hurricanes like Katrina and steering them to a target:

'OK, it's happening again. Last year, a series of four extraordinary storms ravaged the State of Florida in rapid succession, causing both devastating human and economic impacts. Several aspects of these storms caught our attention -- ranging from the "impossible" tracks each storm followed into Florida --
to the equally astonishing geometry visible in the centers of some storms ... the incredibly "structured eyes" themselves.' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/2005/08/hyperdimensional-katrina.html');)

'Hyperdimensional' Katrina ...? http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/2005/08/hyperdimensional-katrina.html (http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/2005/08/hyperdimensional-katrina.html)

Are the authorities manipulating the weather? Of course. You can even find the legislation that confirms it. For example, here is a quote from the website of the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation:

‘In addition, in administering the Texas Weather Modification Act (enacted by the Texas Legislature in 1967), the program issues licenses and permits to organizations and individuals responsible for carrying out both cloud seeding and other weather modification operations. The aim of the regulatory function is to ensure that various methods of modifying the weather do not dissipate clouds nor inhibit their ability to produce rainfall to the detriment of people or property in the affected areas.

The program also sponsors and provides administrative and technical oversight for ongoing weather modification research and development activities. This includes the use of federal grants for exploratory, and confirmatory, cloud seeding experiments. TDLR issues reports on the results of cloud seeding research work and shares information on technological advances with other State agencies, governmental organizations, and interested individuals.’

http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/weathermod.htm (http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/weathermod.htm)
lol crazy

I wont even go into chemtrails..
now on too FEMA


It is clear that the response to the unbelievable carnage and suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina has been pathetic. This is not surprising when you look at the real agenda behind the Federal Emergency Management Agency or FEMA.

FEMA’s public face is presented as an organisation that reacts to national emergencies – everything from a nuclear attack to an earthquake or urban riot. Strange then, you might think, that only six per cent of its budget is spent on national emergencies. The rest is used to construct underground facilities for the government in time of ‘foreign or domestic’ emergency, and to build ‘holding facilties’, prisons and ‘refugee facilities’, none of which have ever been used for such purposes. So, why are they building them? FEMA has around 3,600 employees, and yet only 60 work on natural disasters or prepare plans in case of nuclear attack. What are the rest doing?

The lack of response to the suffering in those southern states can now be understood when you realise that FEMA is not there to mount such a response. Reporters from the world media can get in and out of there, so can the military, but they can’t do the same with food and water??

government organisations like the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) are fronts for the creation of holding areas (concentration camps) … FEMA was created under an Executive Order (which requires no debate in Congress), and signed by president Jimmy Carter, the Trilateral Commission front man. This allows FEMA to take control of the United States during any ‘national emergency’ declared by the president. These powers include marshall law and the right of the military to enforce whatever FEMA decides. All the laws are already in force which allow a military takeover of the United States. They have been passed by Executive Order and any time a president calls a state of emergency they can be invoked, Oliver North, of Iran-Contra fame, was heavily involved in the creation of FEMA, so say no more



FEMA and Hurricane Andrew

I have spoken with survivors of Hurricane Andrew, which struck South Dade County, Florida, in 1992 and anyone who wants to know what the world will be like under organisations like FEMA and their masters should listen to what they say. The horror stories they tell about the actions of FEMA beggar belief. Far from helping the hundreds of thousands of homeless and injured victims, FEMA cordoned off the area and left the people to fend for them selves. They were given no food, no water, no medical supplies, no shelter and no help whatsoever when the disaster struck. One of the victims was K.T. Frankovich who suffered serious injuries in the hurricane. She tells of her horrific experiences in her book, Where Heavens Meet. About three days after the hurricane had devastated the region, she said that a long line of police cars, about 12 to 15, arrived in her area. Each car was driven by a man dressed in a dark police uniform and they had three other plain clothes men riding as passengers, she said. K.T. had a broken jaw, eight teeth knocked out and huge pieces of glass embedded in her body that only a scalpel could remove. She begged this FEMA convoy for help and this was the exchange that followed, as described by K.T. in Where Heavens Meet.


“Please Sir, I need medical help,” I begged, barely able to speak. The officer sitting behind the wheel sighed heavily. He turned his head away from me and gazed out his windshield. The other three men in the car quietly looked at me. “Please Sir, I need to get to a hospital,” I begged franticly. The officer took his time about reaching over and switching off the engine. With another sigh, he slowly opened the door and climbed out. He then proceeded to close the door and stood there with his legs astride.

“Lady, do me a favour,” he answered. “Find yourself a piece of paper and a pencil. Write down your name and social security number next to the phone number of your nearest living relative. Tuck the piece of paper in your pocket so tomorrow, when I find your body, I’ll know who to contact.”

“No! No!” I cried out. “You don’t understand. I need to get to a hospital. I’ve been badly injured.”

“No! You’re the one that doesn’t understand,” he hissed back.

“With that, he reached over to his holster and took out his gun. He grabbed me, forcing me up against the side of the car, and proceeded to put the barrel of the gun against my temple. I heard the hammer cock. From the position he had pushed me into, I could see directly into the car. The man sitting in the front passenger seat looked away from me immediately, glancing down to the floor. The two passengers in the back turned their heads quickly, staring out the window on the other side of the car. My son and the other survivor watched as the officer had pulled back the hammer on his gun. So shocked out of their minds by what they were witnessing, neither one could move!

“You don’t belong here!” the officer growled, pressing the barrel into the side of my head. “Now you get the hell outta here before I blow away your ass!”

“He shoved my face into the car window and then released me. Someone grabbed me from behind and whirled me around so fast I didn’t have time to think! Before I knew it, I was being thrown over a shoulder. My rescuer took off running as fast as he could! I caught a brief glimpse of my son running next to me. With one gigantic leap, he and the survivor who carried me down behind a pile of debris. All three of us crashed on top of each other in one tangled up heap.

“I’ll shoot your damn asses!” the officer’s voice rang out.”

This is the mentality behind FEMA, the US military, the Office of Homeland “Security” and leaders of government. That mentality would not orchestrate what happened on September 11th to advance its agenda? The official death toll of Hurricane Andrew was 26, but K.T. Frankovich says she saw at least 71 bodies taken away from one small area alone. She estimates the dead to have numbered thousands. But how many people know that? Only those involved and no one is listening to them. As always, the media told us what the official sources told them and they had no inclination to investigate further because it’s easier that way. When you consider how 8,230 mobile homes and 9,140 apartments disappeared in the wake of 200-300 miles an hour winds, it is obvious that the official death toll of 26 is insane...

K.T. Frankovich recalls:
“The National Guard along with the Coast Guard, the Army, FEMA, Metro Dade Police, state police and local police removed dead bodies and body parts as quickly as possible during those first ten days of the aftermath. Horrified survivors watched as both uniformed and civilian-clothed men searched the rubble and filled body bags, which they then stacked in military vehicles or huge refrigerator trucks normally used to transport food, only to drive off and leave the stranded injured to fend for them selves.

“Not until I managed to escape the aftermath did I discover that the ‘thermo-king’ sections of these same refrigerator trucks, jam packed with wall to wall body bags, ended up being stored at Card Sound Navy Base, located in an isolated area just above the Florida Keys. The inside temperature was kept cool by portable generators until the bodies were either incinerated or just plain dumped into huge open grave pits.

“Those working on the body pick up operation were forced to take what is known as the Oath of Sworn Secrecy, which is strictly enforced by the government. Many of them plunged into shock, once exposed to the ghastly devastation and countless mutilated bodies. The horrors were way beyond human comprehension. I can vouch for this, as I accidentally stepped on the severed hand of a young child when I initially crawled out of the debris, only to witness shortly thereafter two dead teenagers and the decapitated body of a baby girl.”

K.T. says that when she lectured at the Clearwater Convention in Florida in 1999, a man in the audience introduced himself as Chief Petty Officer Roy Howard and said he had spent 9 weeks on active duty working in South Dade County amid the devastation. He said he learned that at least 5,280 people had died and that the bodies had been ‘confiscated’ by the National Guard and secretly disposed of in incinerators in a joint operation with FEMA. At least another 1,500 bodies were ‘confiscated’ from lakes and other water. This is the America that the population doesn’t see

FEMA, the organisation behind all this and with all those fascist powers to take over America, is a 100% Illuminati creation funded by the profits from the CIA-Bush family drug operation. It is no surprise to learn, then, that it was during Father George’s time at the CIA and in the White House between 1980 and 1992 that this “emergency management” network was established in the name of fighting terrorism and … drug trafficking! You have to admire their cheek if nothing else.

ok enough of her and the background lets move on!!


Now, clearly, a crime of breathtaking magnitude has been committed in New Orleans and those southern states struck by Hurricane Katrina, a great storm that transformed from a category 1 to category 5 as it headed for land fall on the Louisiana coast.
I detailed the wealth of weather control technology available to the Elite earlier on, and even when the hurricane failed to destroy New Orleans by itself the levees conveniently broke and flooded the city to virtual oblivion. A famous city from the ‘developed’, ‘civilised’, world was turned within hours into a nightmare of flooded, polluted, disease-ridden streets, dead people in their thousands (far more than they will officially admit to), mob rule, rape, and he-with-the-muscle-takes-the-food.
It is a sobering reminder of just how tenuous our ‘civilisation’ really is and how staggeringly quickly it can descend into the animalistic demands of survival.

I've always known that a great civilisation in the ancient world with advanced knowledge of science and esoteric law that built vast cities. It was a society on a global scale at one point. People say that if such a place existed we would find evidence of it, so it can’t be true.But wait. Some of its calling cards are still with us in the form of extraordinary edifices of stone around the world in places like Peru, Egypt, and elsewhere. The rest of it has disappeared, yes, but why would it not have done so given the recent experience of New Orleans? Our ‘modern’ society is considered ‘advanced’ technologically, if certainly not spiritually, but this ‘great society’ that we hear praised by the day is in fact hanging by three tiny threads: oil, electricity and clean water.
Take clean water away and we’re all dead within a short time through dehydration or disease; take away electricity and there is no light or warmth. Take away oil and there is no transport except on foot, bicycle or animal-drawn cart and there would be no animals without uncontaminated water. Together they would also mean no more food, except that which can be produced locally using traditional methods and crops, now disappearing under the onslaught of genetically-modified varieties demanding chemicals that would not be available when catastrophe struck.
Within hours of New Orleans being without drinking water, oil or electricity ‘western civilisation’ was history. For it had lost the pillars, threads in truth, upon which it depends. Perhaps we can see more clearly from this experience how an ancient global society struck by geological catastrophes and some massive wall of water – the ‘Great Flood’ – would have been obliterated. What would be left of New Orleans a few thousand years from now if it is was just abandoned to the elements?


BLACK GENOCIDE







Anyway, back to the theme: He who most benefits from a crime is the one most likely to have committed it. My own feelings having read the reports for the last 3 weeks is that Hurricane Katrina was whipped up into the incredible storm it became using weather control technologyand that it was steered to its target, New Orleans. When, as was first reported, the storm gave the city a massive battering, but it survived, the levees were broken to do the rest. Apart from those who understand the Illuminati techniques, who was going to suspect foul play with the levees when the hurricane was a ready-made villain?


This gave them so many gifts in their Orwellian agenda for global control. Firstly, the main victims were the poor, mostly poor blacks who could not evacuate. Black people to the Illuminati bloodlines are little more than vermin – ‘useless eaters’ as they call the masses - and they want to depopulate them on a massive scale. This is the real reason for the implanted AIDS epidemic in Africa which is killing millions of black people across that continent, not least in South Africa, and threatens a depopulation of staggering proportions in the years ahead.

Many will say that the idea of a genocide of black people is far fetched, but here is the ‘race-purity’ agenda in the Illuminati’s own words. In September 2000 the Illuminati’s neocon front, The Project for the New American Century, set out a blueprint for the incoming Bush administration to follow. The people behind the report, including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and so on, became the controlling cabal behind boy Bush and they have been following their report to the letter - including the invasion of Iraq. And in that same report they say the U.S. should consider the ‘use of biological weapons and that “new” methods of attack - electronic, ‘non-lethal’, biological - will be more widely available ... combat likely will take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the world of microbes...advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool'.


Note the language: “specific genotypes” – the biological targeting of specific races and black people are the main, though not the only, target. That is what we are dealing with here within this bigger picture of the Orwellian fascist state – cold, calculated genocide. For this to happen in the you have to demonise black people. This is always the methodology of the sick minds who target races for destruction. They are using the ‘war on terrorism’ to turn other races against the Arab peoples, just as they used propaganda to turn Germans against Jews. Now we are seeing the same with blacks in America – they’re portrayed as the bad guys while the whites in the same circumstances are the victims. Here are two news reports to give you a blatant example of what I mean. Blacks 'loot' food while whites 'find' it











http://davidicke.com/news/data/upimages/bLACK_LOOT.bmp










The key weapon of the tyrant is always divide and rule of the people and it is so important that neither whites turn against blacks or the other way round. Let us not kid ourselves that there are not black racists as there are white and both need to understand that they are being encouraged by the same force – the one that wants the races in conflict to divide and rule.
We need to speak out for ALL victims of injustice, no matter what their creed, colour, or income bracket. If we protect justice for all to enjoy then it will be there when we need it, too. Otherwise the sequence of picking us off group by group will leave us in the same situation as Niemoller. The Muslims, blacks, poor whites, middle classes, on and on they intend to go, but it can be stopped if we, no matter what our colour, creed, belief or background, stand up for justice for ALL. We don’t have to like people or agree with them to stand up for their freedom. Their freedom is our freedom, lest we forget, or
as Noam Chomsky put it


If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.’








The chaos that has followed Katrina has been a blueprint for the marshall law and military state that the Illuminati wish to impose in the wake of further engineered ‘terror’ and weather/geological events. As I have been saying for years, they use the technique of first creating the chaos and then offering the ‘order’ out of the chaos. This ‘order’ means reshaping society in their Orwellian image. The Illuminati are getting desperate because they know that vast numbers of people continue to wake up and see what they couldn’t see before and they are seeking to impose their Orwellian global state as fast as possible to suppress the awakening with control, surveillence and, most importantly to them, human microchipping. This means that they are planning to throw everything they can at the human mind and emotions in terror attacks and ‘natural’ disasters. We must stay strong and not succumb to such pressure to submit.


Here is some background to what is really going behind the FEMA ‘rescue effort’. Firstly a good summary of what the Illuminati want to create in terms of a military-controlled society and how New Orleans has been a blueprint in so many ways:




'This is the nightmare situation of a New World Order takeover in America. It is what we have been warning the world about for years. It is no longer some distant possibility on the horizon that our children may have to endure and fight against, it is here, it is now. New Orleans is a testing ground for this exact scenario, all this is going on there now. We are witnessing in New Orleans, the construction of a microcosm for a "New America" and a New World Order.' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://infowars.net/Pages/Sept05/050905New_World_Orleans.htm');)

http://infowars.net/Pages/Sept05/050905New_World_Orleans.htm' (http://infowars.net/Pages/Sept05/050905New_World_Orleans.htm')



'I'm extremely depressed to report that things seem to only be getting sadder concerning the people so devastatingly affected by Katrina last week. Two car loads of us headed over to Falls Creek, a youth camp for Southern Baptist churches in Oklahoma that agreed to have its facilities used to house Louisiana refugees. I'm afraid the camp is not going to be used as the kind people of the churches who own the cabins believe it was going to be used. Jesse Jackson was right when he said "refugees" was not the appropriate word for the poor souls dislocated due to Katrina. But he was wrong about why it is not appropriate. It's not appropriate because they are detainees, not refugees.' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html');)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html)

I am not an advocate of guns, never owned one and never want to. But confiscating guns owned by the public while allowing those representing the state to have as many as they want has long been part of the takeover agenda
The Nazis introduced gun laws before they imposed their dictatorship.





'Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.

No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns or other firearms, said P. Edwin Compass III, the superintendent of police. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.

But that order apparently does not apply to hundreds of security guards hired by businesses and some wealthy individuals to protect property. The guards, employees of private security companies like Blackwater, openly carry M-16's and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said that he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html');)



http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html)



You're a firefighter okay? You don't go to New Orleans to rescue people, you take a sexual harrassment course...







'He said we are here to do WHAT...??' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197');)
(http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197');)
'Not long after some 1,000 firefighters sat down for eight hours of training, the whispering began: "What are we doing here?" (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197');)
(http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197');)
As New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin pleaded on national television for firefighters - his own are exhausted after working around the clock for a week - a battalion of highly trained men and women sat idle Sunday in a muggy Sheraton Hotel conference room in Atlanta. Many of the firefighters, assembled from Utah and throughout the United States by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, thought they were going to be deployed as emergency workers. (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197');)
(http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197');)
Instead, they have learned they are going to be community-relations officers for FEMA, shuffled throughout the Gulf Coast region to disseminate fliers and a phone number: 1-800-621-FEMA.' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197');)
http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197 (http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3004197)




FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations; FEMA turns away experienced firefighters; FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks; FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel; FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food; FEMA bars morticians from entering New Orleans; FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid; FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board; FEMA to Chicago: Send just one truck; FEMA turns away generators; FEMA: "First Responders Urged Not To Respond." (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://rense.com/general67/femwont.htm');)



http://rense.com/general67/femwont.htm (http://rense.com/general67/femwont.htm)





HURRICANE KATRINA---WHO BENEFITS?







'Oil machinery and other service and equipment faker, Halliburton, has been promised the contract to someday, perhaps not soon, rebuild New Orleans. Vice President Richard Cheney, a top-level criminal, was the CEO of the firm and still receives many millions of dollars per year in delayed "compensation" from them while he stonewalls important White House oil dirty business. (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S_284_S/Overthrow%2520series/OVERTHROW%2520PART%252080.htm');)



The plan for treachery is simple. Residents of New Orleans fled for their life. They obviously did not take along in a plastic bag the deed to their property. So now out-of-town and out-of-work, they do not have the funds to pay their property tax nor do they have their property identification code and number. Sixty six per cent of the population of New Orleans have been blacks, many impoverished, together with a sizeable number of poor whites. (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S_284_S/Overthrow%2520series/OVERTHROW%2520PART%252080.htm');)

So it will be simple for land swindlers like Halliburton and their gang of pirates to grab lots of land from the descendants of slaves or white indentured servants, bull-doze away the hurricane-wrecked houses, and build hotels and other structures to accompany a someday to be newly-enlarged whorehouse district in New Orleans.' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S_284_S/Overthrow%2520series/OVERTHROW%2520PART%252080.htm');)



http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S_284_S/Overthrow%2520series/OVERTHROW%2520PART%252080.htm









... TALKING OF WHICH ... OVERHEARING THE TRUTH ...






'I would like to add something to the bubbling pot that might cast a light on the disgusting official breakdown of rescue and support. This afternoon, I was having lunch at the Cosmos Club out on Massachusetts Avenue. A good friend is a member of the posh club (that once was the elegant town home of Sumner Welles), and while at lunch, I was privy to a very vocal conversation at one of the big round center tables in the club dining room.



One man was giving an overview of the situation to a group of his friends. The speaker was an undersecretary of an important department, well -liked by Bush and often in the White House to consult. The others ranged from an academic economist whose writings can be seen in a right wing paper and a number of Washington-based businessmen, all of whom are active and heavy contributors to the Bush White House.

The loud one had obviously had a few drinks at the bar and this is probably why he was not more discreet. The gist of his comments was horrible to contemplate and it sounded like a top Nazi discussing Jews.

It is well known here that the Bush family and many of the top advisers at the White House are racists but instead of detesting Jews, in this case, they all detest blacks. Their rationale, aside from their view of racial superiority, is that blacks are all "welfare queens, unwed mothers and drug dealers." It was the very firmly stated view of the host that it was better for everyone that New Orleans was under water for the time being.

In that way, we were told (and I was not the only person in the dining room who heard all this), this served to "chase out the niggers" and permit Bush-supporting businessmen from buying up the soon-to-be condemned sodden houses for five cents on the dollar from friendly insurance companies (which one of them was a CEO of) and put up an enlarged and very profitable combination of industrial park and office building section. The money for this would, naturally, come from government grants which a terrified Congress (Mid Term elections are coming) had just voted for and the contracts to demolish the wrecked low-income slums would go, as a no-bid contract, to another stellar Bush supporter.

As for the refugees, our table of proto-fascists all commented on the fact that most of them were on welfare and probably all voted Democratic so they could all be shipped to California or Chicago at the public expense and allowed to occupy less valuable public housing there.

This conversation went on in a similar vein for some time and it was difficult for both myself and my host to refrain from making nasty comments or, for that matter, to enjoy our meal. These people are greedy and purely evil and I am positive from the overall conversations that Bush is conversant with this attitude and has no intentions of interfering with it.'

http://rense.com/general67/herod.htm (http://rense.com/general67/herod.htm)




















Where there’s a pig trough you’ll always find Halliburton...













Former FEMA head and now Halliburton lobbyist visits Louisiana to secure deals





(http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context%3dviewArticle%26amp;code%3d20050 908%26amp;articleId%3d906');)



(Dick Cheney, former Halliburton CEO, will give him all the support he needs) (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context%3dviewArticle%26amp;code%3d20050 908%26amp;articleId%3d906');)

'The former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Joseph Allbaugh, now a lobbyist for Halliburton, is in Lousiana helping his clients obtain disaster relief contracts, the Washington Post reported today. Even Republicans on Capitol Hill are feeling a bit disgusted. "I think there are some laws that have to be changed, especially [when contracting] in emergency situations and the like," said Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA), chairman of the House Committee on Government Reform, (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context%3dviewArticle%26amp;code%3d20050 908%26amp;articleId%3d906');)

The creation of the Homeland Security Department has created another big industry for lobbyists: disaster relief. The Post reported there are roughly 240 businesses and lobbyists seeking to influence contracting and policies related to disaster relief.' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context%3dviewArticle%26amp;code%3d20050 908%26amp;articleId%3d906');)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context%3dviewArticle%26amp;code%3d20050 908%26amp;articleId%3d906 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context%3dviewArticle%26amp;code%3d20050 908%26amp;articleId%3d906)






Why did the levees break?









'These developers will turn New Orleans into the hottest real estate project in the US, using government grants. New Orleans, and its surrounding area, will turn into another Las Vegas, but with Old World charm. You have the Russian mob represented by the Fainbergs vs the American group run out of Miami by Alvin Malnik. The Mob, run by the likes of Alvin Malnik, nee (Malinkski) will have a field day remaking New Orleans into the next Las Vegas. (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://judicial-inc.biz/katrina.htm');)

When you factor in the magnitude of the incompetence, it really isn't out of the realm of possibility [that the levees were sabotaged]. All the levees required were simple fixes. The gross negligence of the rescue effort, and it's five day delay, will surely prevent the return of most of the blacks. No doubt there will be some tenement housing built in surrounding areas, for blacks to resettle in, and the real estate developers will offer them chump change for their New Orleans' property.' (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://judicial-inc.biz/katrina.htm');)
http://judicial-inc.biz/katrina.htm (http://judicial-inc.biz/katrina.htm)










'The Unexplained Crack in Several Feet of Concrete'
























http://davidicke.com/news/data/upimages/katrin18.jpg (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://cytations.blogspot.com/2005/09/mass-murder-by-drowning-unexplained.html');)












'Dr. Shea Penland of the Pontchartrain Institute was surprised because the break was "along a section that was just upgraded. It did not have an earthen levee, it had a vertical concrete wall several feet (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://cytations.blogspot.com/2005/09/mass-murder-by-drowning-unexplained.html');)
http://cytations.blogspot.com/2005/09/mass-murder-by-drowning-unexplained.html (http://cytations.blogspot.com/2005/09/mass-murder-by-drowning-unexplained.html)









There are many reasons why it took long for the rescue effort to begin in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. First they WANTED the chaos, the violence and the suffering because it suited their agenda and this is why the speeches and behaviour of President Bush had ‘don’t give shit’ written all over them. It was so blatant that even some of his brain-dead supporters could see that something didn’t add up. The level of contempt that Bush and his minders have for the people of can be seen yet again in how they spent time and money during a supposed rescue effort to set up a photo opportunity to make him look good (quite a challenge).









Red Cross Frauds, Katrina & Other Disaster Scams







http://davidicke.com/news/data/upimages/224_arcc2lr.jpg (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid%3d46%26amp;contentid%3d2701' );)http://davidicke.com/news/data/upimages/knights_templarsmall.jpg

























Red Cross - symbol of the Knights Templar (http://javascript<b></b><img%20src=&quot;/images/smilies/verbaasd.gif&quot;%20border=&quot;0&quot;%20alt=&quot;&quot;%20title=&quot;Surpr ised&quot;%20smilieid=&quot;2&quot;%20class=&quot;inlineimg&quot;%20/>l('http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid%3d46%26amp;contentid%3d2701' );)











not to mention the Phoenician sun symbol i.e the English Flag,



'During the September 11 disaster, the Red Cross collected untold millions of dollars which have never been accounted for -- $564 million in donations under the auspices of the Liberty Fund. Months later, the Red Cross had distributed only $154 million to the victims of 9/11. The Red Cross said the rest would be used to "fight the war on terror." (http://<font%20face=&quot;verdana&quot;>'during%20the%20september%2011%20disaster,%20the%2 0red%20cross%20collected%20untold%20millions%20of% 20dollars%20which%20have%20never%20been%20accounte d%20for%20--%20$564%20million%20in%20donations%20under%20the%2 0auspices%20of%20the%20liberty%20fund.%20months%20 later,%20the%20red%20cross%20had%20distributed%20o nly%20$154%20million%20to%20the%20victims%20of%209/11.%20The%20Red%20Cross%20said%20the%20rest%20woul d%20be%20used%20to%20&quot;fight%20the%20war%20on%20ter ror.&quot;</font>)

When asked "where did the money go?" Dr. Bernadine Healy, the president of Red Cross said, "The Liberty Fund is a war fund. It has evolved into a war fund." (http://<font%20face=)

In 1989, after the San Francisco earthquake, the Red Cross passed on only $10 million of the $50 million that had been raised.''' (http://<font%20face=&quot;verdana&quot;>in%201989,%20after%20the%20san%20francisco%20earth quake,%20the%20red%20cross%20passed%20on%20only%20 $10%20million%20of%20the%20$50%20million%20that%20 had%20been%20raised.'''</font>)




some food for though their. please stay on topic
I leave how i came, in Peace.

Prince Rai
09-18-2005, 12:40 PM
shit long read.. peace soul.. ill read after ill copy dis stuff

tajeco
09-18-2005, 05:52 PM
that's a lot to read, how about summarizing. Allright, I'll grow up. That bit about "looting" vs. "finding" groceries is good.

THE W
09-19-2005, 12:01 AM
an interesting read but i dont really believe in any of this stuff. i need more information to get behind the idea that the government manufactured hurricane katrina.

jimidigital808
09-19-2005, 03:49 AM
Peace, Soul

The signs of foul play in New Orleans following Katrina's wake were becoming increasingly apparent to me. I sincerely thank you for bringing all this knowledge to light.

Mark
09-19-2005, 05:45 AM
I read all of that, it took some time, but it was pretty interessting imo. I don't think it's the truth, but I think it's always good to read how other people feel about things.
The FEMA part was the best. With only 60 active people working and the other working underground or whatever. This makes me think some things are hidden for the public, but I already knew that.
The racism of the media is always interresting. But I dont like small pictures of broken walls hehe, thats a lil paranoid imo.
And I still don't understand why people always gotta talk a little about WWII. I hate that shit. It's like, when you don't say anything about WWII it's fake, but when you mention WWII in just one or two lines, it's thr truth. It doesn't make sence and it doesn't relate imo.

Anyway a good read, thanks soul.

peace

ratty mayonnaise
09-19-2005, 07:44 AM
peace.

their are links provided on every aspect i covered,, theirs more than enough proof their
especially the texas gov web site with the weather manipulation laws,,
and research info on haarp,

and niclas tesla!

im just lettin u know a version of reality that is hidden by the mass media.
peace

Literate Type Asshole
09-19-2005, 08:04 AM
the illuminati aren't going to start hurricanes, it would make it impossible to fly their black helicopters.

it also might anger their alien overlords, the overlords who are planning to take control of the planet on November 5, 2012 at the termination of the bimillenial lease which they granted to humanity in the year 0012, after Doc Brown (in cooperation with Nastradamus, David Duke, and Islord from Killarmy) travelled back through time in his Delorean and made a deal with them. It would not be a good idea to mess up the planet they plan to give back to the aliens in only a few years by throwing hurricanes all over the set, plus it also might anger alien-in-disguise Dr Phil who is controlling the minds of the masses using subtle twitchings of his moustache. A hurricane would surely cause his moustache to twitch uncontrollably and cause the masses to do crazy shit like put their pets in the toaster, something which would interfere with the microchips that have been put in toasters ever since the year 1956 when Fidel Castro in collaboration with a very young Donald Rumsfeld made a deal with toaster manufacturers who were being controlled through subliminal messages hidden in the personals section of the bimonthly toaster industry magazine, TOAST DIGEST.

NIGGA PLEASE

ratty mayonnaise
09-19-2005, 11:23 AM
sigh.. why cant fags like that stay in general chat

Literate Type Asshole
09-19-2005, 11:48 AM
if the "illuminati" exists, if a huge organization exists which controls EVERY aspect of life in the world, politics, science, military, tell me one thing: why is there not one single conclusive bit of evidence to support its existence? all that exists is hypothesis. you take one fact - such as a hurricane. you take a prejudice against the establishment. you put them together and you get the theory, that the establishment created the hurricane, because that satisfies your anti-establishment desires. you rearrange the facts in any way you possibly can to make possible seem like likely. you miss out facts that don't support it- like the hurricane costing the american economy (and hence, the bush administration) billions of dollars, or the hurricane destroying oil infrastructure (something i believe the bush administration is quite keen on), or the administration's response to the hurricane being very damaging to their political standing.

the illuminati is supposed to control politics, science, military, medicine, law enforcement....these are not backroom industries run by a few people. you need thousands upon thousands of specialized, trained individual people to run these industries. how come not one of them has ever come forward with even a slight hint of evidence of such an organization? how come no large numbers of doctors or scientists or law enforcement officers have ever "disappeared"? WHY is there ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to support the existence of the illuminati other than conjecture and hypothesis, which has been applied to facts for centuries by conspiracy theorists who virtually all turned out to be wrong? the only thing that would make the illuminati plausible would be direct, explicit telepathic mind control. which does not exist.

i reiterate - NIGGA PLEASE

WARPATH
09-19-2005, 11:57 AM
good shit- i skimmed through most of it- I don't agree with the controlling of the weather- I don't think man has that kind of power- yet- but it's not out of scope- yeah fema came here after a tornado hit, built some tornado shelters, gave away some trailor homes and bounced- gotta say some people were expecting more help around here- that was during the clinton adiminstration- things were a little better back then-

akira kurosawa
09-19-2005, 12:02 PM
the illuminati aren't going to start hurricanes, it would make it impossible to fly their black helicopters.

it also might anger their alien overlords, the overlords who are planning to take control of the planet on November 5, 2012 at the termination of the bimillenial lease which they granted to humanity in the year 0012, after Doc Brown (in cooperation with Nastradamus, David Duke, and Islord from Killarmy) travelled back through time in his Delorean and made a deal with them. It would not be a good idea to mess up the planet they plan to give back to the aliens in only a few years by throwing hurricanes all over the set, plus it also might anger alien-in-disguise Dr Phil who is controlling the minds of the masses using subtle twitchings of his moustache. A hurricane would surely cause his moustache to twitch uncontrollably and cause the masses to do crazy shit like put their pets in the toaster, something which would interfere with the microchips that have been put in toasters ever since the year 1956 when Fidel Castro in collaboration with a very young Donald Rumsfeld made a deal with toaster manufacturers who were being controlled through subliminal messages hidden in the personals section of the bimonthly toaster industry magazine, TOAST DIGEST.

NIGGA PLEASE you've read way too many nut-job conspiracies. and as a result, you've mixed truth with fiction... disregarding any given facts.

Reggie_Noble
09-19-2005, 12:03 PM
the illuminati aren't going to start hurricanes, it would make it impossible to fly their black helicopters.

it also might anger their alien overlords, the overlords who are planning to take control of the planet on November 5, 2012 at the termination of the bimillenial lease which they granted to humanity in the year 0012, after Doc Brown (in cooperation with Nastradamus, David Duke, and Islord from Killarmy) travelled back through time in his Delorean and made a deal with them. It would not be a good idea to mess up the planet they plan to give back to the aliens in only a few years by throwing hurricanes all over the set, plus it also might anger alien-in-disguise Dr Phil who is controlling the minds of the masses using subtle twitchings of his moustache. A hurricane would surely cause his moustache to twitch uncontrollably and cause the masses to do crazy shit like put their pets in the toaster, something which would interfere with the microchips that have been put in toasters ever since the year 1956 when Fidel Castro in collaboration with a very young Donald Rumsfeld made a deal with toaster manufacturers who were being controlled through subliminal messages hidden in the personals section of the bimonthly toaster industry magazine, TOAST DIGEST.

NIGGA PLEASE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/samadriel/owned-xavier.jpg

ratty mayonnaise
09-19-2005, 12:19 PM
no doubt the people who i have mentioned in my post.. the guys who are saying what im sayin is in correct

check out nicola tesla.. do a fucking search omn that name.. he PATENTED WEATHER technologhy in 1910!! thats fucking almost 100 years ago.. do u think it has developed since then? also check H.A.A.R.P as ive said countless times.. check what haarp does..

for the literate type asshole.. i have given u freemason motto's/ illuminati motto's
what do u want? do u want me to go to the grand lodge in washington and show u all but 2 presidents have been freemasons? lol
u can edit whatever facts u want out of anything u dont like,.. thats no probs..
but to accept it. u have to call urself stupid 1st.. u have to get rid of ur ego.. or well..
just sit their and wait till nov 5th 2012 as u said. rofl why that date? what happens then? rofl
not like if its anything like dec 21st when the 9 planets and the sun will be in 1 line to the centre of out solar system.. ( as the mayans said 6000 years ago.. but hey..thats a theory.. not like all the astrological events they said was gone happened. on the correct times and dates.. lol its coz they fucking had the knowledge.. unlike some..)

now on to ur post..

bush pays what? man u idiot. tax dollars.. pay that shit. u the americans pay.. dont u see? who makes the cash? the people like cheney and bush snr and rumsfield and pearle who have major shares in the oil companys and the rebuilding contractors (haliburton and bechtel 0wnz yew ) not to mention the loans the so called govt of the free us will take out and thus make inflation even higher.. this shit aint brain surgery its happned countless times b4. history always repeats..

u say i have fuck all to support this
ok well
start with the bilderberg group. see who the members are and work fucking backwards..
u will see who these people are.. see who is part of the round table.. who is part of the royakl society of peace rofl should be war.. the council on foriegn relations. the london school of science..
all sides of all parties and all the leading compays.. all their man mens are their. u push ur agenda from the top and u branch it out..
u only need to know what u know.. u r not told what is in levels above u

lol check may 1st 1977
baverian illuminatis official date..
even said by their own members ( albert picke)
go vfucking research

pyrmaids inside pyramids.. or better still.. like the russian dolls.. that u keep opening and gettin smaller and smaller

victrial
09-19-2005, 01:09 PM
jesus christ i fuckin hate niggers. ur dumb pieces of shit and r where u r cause u believe in this kind of crap

WARPATH
09-19-2005, 01:21 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/slippydapimp/i000768_big.jpg

Soul controller don't let these guys get you down- yo check this picture of hurricane katrina- then check a native americans artistic view on what he see's in the picture and you'll come to realize the forces behind the hurricane- not disagreeing with your post but just showing you another point of view on the matter peace-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/slippydapimp/look_big.jpg

Machete
09-19-2005, 01:31 PM
jesus christ i fuckin hate niggers. ur dumb pieces of shit and r where u r cause u believe in this kind of crapSomeone dispose of this trash.


Great thread soul. Thanks and nice links.

Literate Type Asshole
09-19-2005, 01:36 PM
who needs fact when you've got photoshop?


for the literate type asshole.. i have given u freemason motto's/ illuminati motto's
what do u want? do u want me to go to the grand lodge in washington and show u all but 2 presidents have been freemasons? lol

doesn't prove anything other than all but 2 presidents have been freemasons. the freemasons is an undemocratically elected cabal of powerful people who are known to interfere in world affairs to make themselves more powerful. they aren't a secret conspiracy using mind control and weather manipulation to kill all africans

not like if its anything like dec 21st when the 9 planets and the sun will be in 1 line to the centre of out solar system.. ( as the mayans said 6000 years ago.. but hey..thats a theory.. not like all the astrological events they said was gone happened. on the correct times and dates.. lol its coz they fucking had the knowledge.. unlike some..)

that's astronomy, not conspiracy theory pulled out of someone's ass....

bush pays what? man u idiot. tax dollars.. pay that shit. u the americans pay.. dont u see? who makes the cash? the people like cheney and bush snr and rumsfield and pearle who have major shares in the oil companys and the rebuilding contractors (haliburton and bechtel 0wnz yew ) not to mention the loans the so called govt of the free us will take out and thus make inflation even higher.. this shit aint brain surgery its happned countless times b4. history always repeats..

the bush administration's business connections will take advantage of the situation. that doesn't prove anything other than that they have limited ethics. the economic impact of the hurricane on the government is still overwhelmingly negative. this is simply fact


start with the bilderberg group. see who the members are and work fucking backwards..

like the freemasons, the bilderberg group are an unelected cabal of powerful people who meet to discuss their power and world affairs. this is not good. but it is still a long way away from being what you say it is. the existence of the bilderberg group doesn't prove the existence of the illuminati anymore than the existence of rats in your basement would prove the existence of lions in your basement.

i repeat: why is there not one single conclusive bit of evidence to support the existence of such an organization? all that exists is hypothesis and conjecture. there is absolutely no way a single entity could control every single aspect of life and not be revealed. this is just common sense.

JASPER
09-19-2005, 02:15 PM
Jesus Bombing Christ. How do you pieces of shit come up with this? Seriously, stay off the crack. What a laugh.

akira kurosawa
09-19-2005, 02:29 PM
Jesus Bombing Christ. How do you pieces of shit come up with this? Seriously, stay off the crack. What a laugh. did it harm your Conservative upbringing?

Os3y3ris
09-19-2005, 02:51 PM
This whole Illuminati thing is interesting. I'm convinced that the Illuminati is the postmodern god of the revolutionary. Not in terms of a New Testament forgiving, loving, caring god, or even a vengeful old testament god, but more so an adverserial god as seen in Greek mythology. The Illuminati is all knowing, all powerful, immortal. Though they didn't create the world, but they have the power to end it. Much like the Greek gods suppressed mortal pride and ambition, playing games with them and their souls, the Illuminati represents the same invincible force to those who'd wish to change the world. How dare man kill one of God's chosen? He knew you'd do it and will respond with 7 times the force. This hurricane, tornado, or other natural disaster is not the work of nature, but of God. Sometimes, the gods leaves the Olympus, disguised as mortals, delivering help to those who suit their purposes and causing trouble for their enemies.

So in this manner, those disillusioned and unsatisfied with the shape of the world keep themselves in check. Subconsciously, the Illuminati is a cautionary tale for them, along the lines of the numerous Greek tales of challenging the gods. Bottom line, you could handle all this Illuminati shit you see on the surface if you wanted to. Not one of them doesn't bleed. But of course, you'd then be cast out of society. You'd then be a target. You'd be a righteous man starting trouble in hell. You just might die. But realistically speaking, you refuse to act not only out of fear, but out of love for the Illuminati.

PS: Only wanna hear objections to that last point if you're typing them from Cuba.

yo check this picture of hurricane katrina- then check a native americans artistic view on what he see's in the picture and you'll come to realize the forces behind the hurricane- not disagreeing with your post but just showing you another point of view on the matter peace-
Jews caused the hurricane? Hmm...

JASPER
09-19-2005, 04:00 PM
There should be a limit to free thinking.

WARPATH
09-19-2005, 04:14 PM
I think you guyz missed the point of the pictures- look at them again and compare them this time- let's try and be a little more respectful of other peoples point of views ok?

maestro wooz
09-19-2005, 04:26 PM
i dont get what youre trying to say, the 2nd picture is obviously photoshopped

Os3y3ris
09-19-2005, 04:38 PM
I think you guyz missed the point of the pictures- look at them again and compare them this time-
OH NOESS!!!111 T3h JEWS5!!!!

let's try and be a little more respectful of other peoples point of views ok?
Says the one throwing antiJew propaganda all over the place.

WARPATH
09-19-2005, 04:48 PM
i dont get what youre trying to say, the 2nd picture is obviously photoshopped
that's ok it's a little to much for some folks to comprehend- it is photo shopped by a friend of my dad's- he dreams this stuff- some of us pagan savage natives believe that the grandfather's communicate with us through dreams- and to that jew hatin guy- why do you hate jews?

Os3y3ris
09-19-2005, 04:54 PM
Why does who hate the Jews? Your pic isn't some native americans dream. Its typical antisemetic artwork.

WARPATH
09-19-2005, 04:57 PM
Why does who hate the Jews? Your pic isn't some native americans dream. Its typical antisemetic artwork.Nah man that's what an artist dreamt about- it isn't antisemetic- it isn't meant to be- I have nothing against jewish people- yo you got it twisted- a guy dreamt about this and saw this picture and saw his dream in the picture-

THE W
09-19-2005, 05:14 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/slippydapimp/i000768_big.jpg

Soul controller don't let these guys get you down- yo check this picture of hurricane katrina- then check a native americans artistic view on what he see's in the picture and you'll come to realize the forces behind the hurricane- not disagreeing with your post but just showing you another point of view on the matter peace-

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/slippydapimp/look_big.jpg
photoshop is awesome :thumbup:

JASPER
09-19-2005, 07:23 PM
Keep farting with your walkman on..

froth
09-19-2005, 07:29 PM
i dont get what youre trying to say, the 2nd picture is obviously photoshopped
hahahaha nice sig

Os3y3ris
09-19-2005, 08:04 PM
Nah man that's what an artist dreamt about- it isn't antisemetic- it isn't meant to be- I have nothing against jewish people- yo you got it twisted- a guy dreamt about this and saw this picture and saw his dream in the picture-
Oh? So what are seeing exactly? Please explain to me how that is NOT a Jewish charicature(sp?).

ryanmeister
09-19-2005, 08:22 PM
i don't neccisarily belive in illuminati, but knowing sociology you're stupid to pretend like the rich don't control the poor. there are bloodlines too. would it suprise me if this kind of shit went on? no. look at how private government is. soul controller, this is good shit, and i do think katrina is at the very least being played for everything its worth. if you look at the drop of funding for the past 20 years, the no bid contract to halliburton, the 200 million proposed to rebuild, the thousands of blacks in concentration camp like settings, the fact that the poor suffered the most, the fact that all government legistlators were on vacation, at the time of, and during the aftermath, you know, you just gotta wonder. i think this is not only debatable, it is sick that it is even possible to be debatable. and that my friends, is the main point of this arguement.

WARPATH
09-19-2005, 08:57 PM
Oh? So what are seeing exactly? Please explain to me how that is NOT a Jewish charicature(sp?).
I'm sorry It's not meant to be a jewish guy- it's the artists vision of a spirit in the storm that's driving it- your just reading into something that you want to believe- that i'm trying to show some racist shit but that's just not the case- peace

akira kurosawa
09-19-2005, 09:10 PM
i don't neccisarily belive in illuminati, but knowing sociology you're stupid to pretend like the rich don't control the poor. there are bloodlines too. would it suprise me if this kind of shit went on? no. look at how private government is. soul controller, this is good shit, and i do think katrina is at the very least being played for everything its worth. if you look at the drop of funding for the past 20 years, the no bid contract to halliburton, the 200 million proposed to rebuild, the thousands of blacks in concentration camp like settings, the fact that the poor suffered the most, the fact that all government legistlators were on vacation, at the time of, and during the aftermath, you know, you just gotta wonder. i think this is not only debatable, it is sick that it is even possible to be debatable. and that my friends, is the main point of this arguement. !

Os3y3ris
09-19-2005, 09:14 PM
I found this doll rather cute, don't you charging soldier?

http://www.bathantiquesonline.com/antique/imgs/27743l.jpg

Seriously now, that looks like an old, bald headed, big nosed white guy. All he's missing is a beard. Its about as innocent as the doll I posted.

WARPATH
09-19-2005, 10:13 PM
I found this doll rather cute, don't you charging soldier?

http://www.bathantiquesonline.com/antique/imgs/27743l.jpg

Seriously now, that looks like an old, bald headed, big nosed white guy. All he's missing is a beard. Its about as innocent as the doll I posted.how can you deciper race in that picture? it's a face in the clouds- it doesn't have skin- and how does it look jewish? he's not rocking a yamaka- he's not playing with a dredle- guy your coming at me like you have a personal issue with me so what is it? It's obvious you only read a couple of my posts today and you automatically think you know what i'm about so tell me about me

your the only one posting racial pictures here

akira kurosawa
09-19-2005, 10:35 PM
i think it's the idea that the face in the clouds has a rather huge nose, which the jewish race has been abused with for probably centuries. however, i think it's purely coincidental and has nothing to do with the jewish race.

THE W
09-19-2005, 10:40 PM
I found this doll rather cute, don't you charging soldier?

http://www.bathantiquesonline.com/antique/imgs/27743l.jpg

Seriously now, that looks like an old, bald headed, big nosed white guy. All he's missing is a beard. Its about as innocent as the doll I posted.
even if he was trying to be racist with that cloud pic(and im sure he wasnt), you respond to ignorance with more ignorance?

WARPATH
09-19-2005, 10:40 PM
i think it's the idea that the face in the clouds has a rather huge nose, which the jewish race has been abused with for probably centuries. however, i think it's purely coincidental and has nothing to do with the jewish race.thanks glad someone is coming to reason- native americans have been giving the same type of stereo types- with big noses-you can see it in the old porky pig cartoons- natives call the spirits in the clouds- grandfathers- cuz they've been watcing over us since the beginning of time- so they would be mad old and have features that us humans couldn't imagine

maestro wooz
09-19-2005, 11:52 PM
that's ok it's a little to much for some folks to comprehend- it is photo shopped by a friend of my dad's- he dreams this stuff- some of us pagan savage natives believe that the grandfather's communicate with us through dreams- and to that jew hatin guy- why do you hate jews?

oh

urbanlegendmf
09-19-2005, 11:54 PM
if the "illuminati" exists, if a huge organization exists which controls EVERY aspect of life in the world, politics, science, military, tell me one thing: why is there not one single conclusive bit of evidence to support its existence? all that exists is hypothesis. you take one fact - such as a hurricane. you take a prejudice against the establishment. you put them together and you get the theory, that the establishment created the hurricane, because that satisfies your anti-establishment desires. you rearrange the facts in any way you possibly can to make possible seem like likely. you miss out facts that don't support it- like the hurricane costing the american economy (and hence, the bush administration) billions of dollars, or the hurricane destroying oil infrastructure (something i believe the bush administration is quite keen on), or the administration's response to the hurricane being very damaging to their political standing.

the illuminati is supposed to control politics, science, military, medicine, law enforcement....these are not backroom industries run by a few people. you need thousands upon thousands of specialized, trained individual people to run these industries. how come not one of them has ever come forward with even a slight hint of evidence of such an organization? how come no large numbers of doctors or scientists or law enforcement officers have ever "disappeared"? WHY is there ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to support the existence of the illuminati other than conjecture and hypothesis, which has been applied to facts for centuries by conspiracy theorists who virtually all turned out to be wrong? the only thing that would make the illuminati plausible would be direct, explicit telepathic mind control. which does not exist.

i reiterate - NIGGA PLEASE
SOUL GOT SONNED, EXCEPT BUSH DOESNT CARE FOR BLACKS CAUSE IF IT WAS BEVERLY HILLS, HE WOULD HAVE HAVE SENT THEM PALLETS OF FOOD AND WATER WIT BLACK HELICOPTERS LIKE THEY DID IN AFGAN

ratty mayonnaise
09-20-2005, 02:07 AM
yeah i got sonned coz next man doesnt know his research :)
tis all good

Os3y3ris
09-20-2005, 03:19 AM
even if he was trying to be racist with that cloud pic(and im sure he wasnt), you respond to ignorance with more ignorance?Dude, I'm black. The only statement I'm making with my post is illustrating the type of ignorance displayed, NOT saying it for myself. Regardless of context, you recognize it immediately, no? So how is the image in the clouds NOT recognizable?

urbanlegendmf
09-20-2005, 03:51 AM
yeah i got sonned coz next man doesnt know his research :)
tis all good
i think youre gonna cry

:mmmyah:

akira kurosawa
09-20-2005, 06:57 AM
SOUL GOT SONNED, EXCEPT BUSH DOESNT CARE FOR BLACKS CAUSE IF IT WAS BEVERLY HILLS, HE WOULD HAVE HAVE SENT THEM PALLETS OF FOOD AND WATER WIT BLACK HELICOPTERS LIKE THEY DID IN AFGAN it's not about whether Bush doesn't care about black people, it is simply - the 'rich' doesn't care about the poor, regardless of color.

ratty mayonnaise
09-20-2005, 07:36 AM
yes im crying coz america's gonne get raped.
and im here tryin to let u people know of the cumming events..
as i said
its all good. :)

WARPATH
09-20-2005, 09:52 AM
Dude, I'm black. The only statement I'm making with my post is illustrating the type of ignorance displayed, NOT saying it for myself. Regardless of context, you recognize it immediately, no? So how is the image in the clouds NOT recognizable?
guy how many times to I have to tell you- that's not a jewish guy in the clouds- it's an indian thing and you just don't get it- it's to much for your feeble mind to comprehend- because if you did get it you wouldn't be in here whining about it- you be saying oh that's different take on things- but you obviousley have a problem with me so you won't just let it go- let it go- let it go - let it go- it's not a jewish guy- let it go- guy native americans have been put in that big nose stereo type also- but this picture is about one guys vision of the storm- this is what he saw- if to you it resembles a jewish guy- and your the only one- then it makes you out to be the racist- show some respect- let it go- build on the topic- think about the possiblities but if you wanna get into some racial shit- make a totally different thread- leave this for hurricane Katrina discussion- theories- peace

ratty mayonnaise
09-20-2005, 11:45 AM
word up
check check

a popular mechnics piece on hurricanes
released on 9/11 in their online magazine aswell as their journal
enjoy!

NEW ORLEANS IS SINKING
BY JIM WILSON
Published on: September 11, 2001
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The surge of a Category 5 storm could put New Orleans under 18 ft. of water.



They don't bury the dead in New Orleans. The highest point in the city is only 6 ft. above sea level, which makes for watery graves. Fearful that rotting corpses caused epidemics, the city limited ground burials in 1830. Mausoleums built on soggy cemetery grounds became the final resting place for generations. Beyond providing a macabre tourist attraction, these "cities of the dead" serve as a reminder of the Big Easy's vulnerability to flooding. The reason water rushes into graves is because New Orleans sits atop a delta made of unconsolidated material that has washed down the Mississippi River.

Think of the city as a chin jutting out, waiting for a one-two punch from Mother Nature. The first blow comes from the sky. Hurricanes plying the Gulf of Mexico push massive domes of water (storm surges) ahead of their swirling winds. After the surges hit, the second blow strikes from below. The same swampy delta ground that necessitates above-ground burials leaves water from the storm surge with no place to go but up.

The fact that New Orleans has not already sunk is a matter of luck. If slightly different paths had been followed by Hurricanes Camille, which struck in August 1969, Andrew in August 1992 or George in September 1998, today we might need scuba gear to tour the French Quarter.

"In New Orleans, you never get above sea level, so you're always going to be isolated during a strong hurricane," says Kay Wilkins of the southeast Louisiana chapter of the American Red Cross.

During a strong hurricane, the city could be inundated with water blocking all streets in and out for days, leaving people stranded without electricity and access to clean drinking water. Many also could die because the city has few buildings that could withstand the sustained 96- to 100-mph winds and 6- to 8-ft. storm surges of a Category 2 hurricane. Moving to higher elevations would be just as dangerous as staying on low ground. Had Camille, a Category 5 storm, made landfall at New Orleans, instead of losing her punch before arriving, her winds would have blown twice as hard and her storm surge would have been three times as high.

Yet knowing all this, area residents have made their potential problem worse. "Over the past 30 years, the coastal region impacted by Camille has changed dramatically. Coastal erosion combined with soaring commercial and residential development in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama have all combined to significantly increase the vulnerability of the area," says Sandy Ward Eslinger, of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration's Coastal Services Center in Charleston, S.C.

Early Warning
Emergency planners believe that it is a foregone conclusion that the Big Easy someday will be hit by a scouring storm surge. And, given the tremendous amount of coastal-area development, this watery "big one" will produce a staggering amount of damage. Yet, this doesn't necessarily mean that there will be a massive loss of lives.

The key is a new emergency warning system developed by Gregory Stone, a professor at Louisiana State University (LSU). It is called WAVCIS, which stands for wave-current surge information system. Within 30 minutes to an hour after raw data is collected from monitoring stations in the Gulf, an assessment of storm-surge damage would be available to emergency planners. Disaster relief agencies then would be able to mobilize resources--rescue personnel, the Red Cross, and so forth.

The $4.5 million WAVCIS project, which is now coming on line, will fill a major void in the Louisiana storm warning system, which was practically nonexistent compared to those of other Gulf Coast states. A system of 20 "weather buoys" along the U.S. coastline serves as a warning system for the Gulf of Mexico. However, the buoys are not distributed evenly and Louisiana falls into one of the gaps. From the mouth of the Mississippi River to the Louisiana-Texas border, there are no buoys. Only one buoy serves Louisiana, and it is 62 miles east of the Mississippi River and more than 300 miles to the south. So it's a bit like predicting the weather in Boston when your thermometer is in Philadelphia. The other buoys are near the coastlines of Texas, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida, and several hundred miles out into the Gulf.

Stable Platforms
One reason that WAVCIS will be more accurate is that its sensors are attached to offshore oil platforms. The older, floating buoys ride up and down with the waves and often can't give accurate pictures of wave heights and storm surges. Stable platforms mean that the sensors can be placed above and below the water, allowing more precise measurements. Data from each of the 13 stations, five of which are now on line, is transmitted to LSU, where it'll be interpreted and sent to emergency planners centers, via the Internet.

"With this new system [WAVCIS], we get to see real information on storm surge and we can feed that into our models and come up with real data," says Mike Brown, assistant director of the New Orleans emergency management office.

Because large areas would have to be evacuated, false alarms could be harmful to the economy. Stone sees it as a reasonable tradeoff.

"It's better to have that frustration than the loss of life. The potential loss of life in Louisiana could be catastrophic because there is just nowhere to go."


from
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282151.html

It's not only strange in the fact that it was published on 911, and spoke about the NEXT major destructive event in the US, Katrina, but BECAUSE of the 911 hit piece that Popular Mechanics did, written by the cousin of Michael Chertoff.

Whose saying that Popular Mechanics caused Katrina? Nobody. Only that, perhaps, there was some human element in power that might have known the New Orleans event was going to take place, and hence, the story was published on 911...

It could just be a coincidence, but, more then likely it's synchronicity, and it's far from meaningless.


Also, the GeeK in me should mention that Jim Wilson was the name of one of the sidekicks to the comic character "The Incredible Hulk." Jim Wilson was black, and he died of AIDS in the comic during the late 1990's.

About 2 weeks before the Katrina disaster occcured a video game was released called "Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction!" At the final stage of the video game, the task of the Hulk is to defeat a villain named the Abomination who is trying trying to destroy a dam. You must stop him from flooding the city before the evacuation is complete.


Funny early warning systems on offshore oil platforms....well they got demolished, guess they got a clear early warning message!

plus nasa had prior knowledge through satelites and such
and all they did was make these new weird logo's



http://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/goes/logos/goesnopq-logo.jpg

anddhttp://goes.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/goes/logos/thenextgeneration.gif


do u see something their? check the propertys of the pics and u can see they are linked directly from the nasa site.. ebverything i post is fully fact, prooven.

all u have to do is connect the dots!

and know about alot of aspects of life..
their is no conspiracy

their is an unfolding agenda.

peace

Literate Type Asshole
09-20-2005, 01:25 PM
Also, the GeeK in me should mention that Jim Wilson was the name of one of the sidekicks to the comic character "The Incredible Hulk." Jim Wilson was black, and he died of AIDS in the comic during the late 1990's.

About 2 weeks before the Katrina disaster occcured a video game was released called "Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction!" At the final stage of the video game, the task of the Hulk is to defeat a villain named the Abomination who is trying trying to destroy a dam. You must stop him from flooding the city before the evacuation is complete.

jesus christ dude, are you for real


and once again, you have nothing. new orleans' vulnerability to flooding has been well known for decades. i searched on usenet for references to it before 2005 and there were loads even with a fairly specific search:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%22new+orleans%22%2B%22flood%22%2B%22s ea+level%22&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_qdr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=20&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2004&safe=off

ratty mayonnaise
09-20-2005, 01:40 PM
i did that especially for u!

feel proud.

if u couldnt tell i did that for u
shit

rofl

but im sure ur search.. lol dang

do u know who 0wnz popular mechanics?
do u know the background of the person?
and what socities they are in?

if u do then u would know why this article was important thus why i put it on here

come at me with facts. not ur user net groups
lol

u will only6 get conpsiracy theories with that lame shit.

i like how the powers that be have associated conspiracy with theory
indoctrined muppets automatically put them words together
an no one questions the govt versions of events coz the media sticks to them like glue and the reporters and the whistle blowers who ask or try to find out
end up dead
their is no conspiraCY except
that 19 mnuslims from the pooriest part of the world managed to get the toughest nation on earth to stand down, millitary wise and all their normal procedures i.e norad was over looked
how did 19 A-RABS do that..
with box cutters
rofl
how did they do that when they couldnt evn fly bi planes

now u fucking muppet
that is a conpsiracry throey, and thats the official govt line

i love robots

ForensikZ
09-20-2005, 09:54 PM
Oh? So what are seeing exactly? Please explain to me how that is NOT a Jewish charicature(sp?).
what, all jewish people have big noses now?shame on you

Os3y3ris
09-20-2005, 10:51 PM
No, but all jewish caricatures do. Anyways, done with it. ive made my point. take it or leave it.

TeknicelStylez
09-21-2005, 04:14 AM
The puppets are out in full force on KTL. They're so lovely, bouncing around awkwardly with their limbs flapping around in each direction. Letting other people talk for them and stuff, its cute.

ratty mayonnaise
09-26-2005, 01:48 PM
I was emailed a copy this week of a document called ‘Silent Weapons for a Quiet War’. I read it a alooooooong time ago, (when i was gettin to the killarmy 1st album.. of the same name..), but looking through it again reminded me of just how perfectly it describes ‘modern’ society.

It is claimed that the document was adopted by the Policy Committee of the Illuminati-created Bilderberg Group during its first known meeting in 1954 and that a copy found in 1969 was in the possession of Naval Intelligence. The version emailed to me, dated May 1979, is said to have been found on July 7th, 1986, in an IBM copier purchased at a surplus sale. The background, however, whatever it may be, is less important than the content. It is, simply, a summary of how to mind control the masses and get them to react as required for the benefit of the Elite. Click here to read it in full. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/metasystems/GB/SilentWeaponsGB.html (javascript:ol('http://perso.wanadoo.fr/metasystems/GB/SilentWeaponsGB.html');)

Social engineering is as old as humanity in the sense of manipulating people and societies to do the will of the manipulator. This document is merely the modern expression of that – on a massive scale. The methods described can be observed daily as the battle for control of the collective human mind continues apace. Here, for example, it details the foundation techniques of the quiet war:

‘It shoots situations, instead of bullets; propelled by data processing, instead of chemical reaction (explosion); originating from bits of data, instead of grains of gunpowder; from a computer, instead of a gun; operated by a computer programmer, instead of marksman; under the orders of a banking magnate, instead of a military general.

It makes no obvious explosive noises, causes no obvious physical or mental injuries, and does not obviously interfere with anyone's daily social life. Yet it makes an unmistakable 'noise', causes unmistakable physical and mental damage, and unmistakably interferes with daily social life, i.e., unmistakable to a trained observer, one who knows what to look for.

The public cannot comprehend this weapon, and therefore cannot believe that they are being attacked and subdued by a weapon. The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong, but because of the technical nature of the silent weapon, they cannot express their feeling in a rational way, or handle the problem with intelligence. Therefore, they do not know how to cry for help, and do not know how to associate with others to defend themselves against it.

When a silent weapon is applied gradually to the public, the public adjusts/adapts to its presence and learns to tolerate its encroachment on their lives until the pressure (psychological via economic) becomes too great and they crack up.

Therefore, the silent weapon is a type of biological warfare. It attacks the vitality, options, and mobility of the individuals of a society by knowing, understanding, manipulating, and attacking their sources of natural and social energy, and their physical, mental, and emotional strengths and weaknesses.’

This is why there is so much manipulated conflict, suffering, hunger, poverty and so on. They are using fear in its endless guises to attack the peoples’ ‘sources of natural and social energy, and their physical, mental, and emotional strengths and weaknesses’.

What has been happening in the wake of Hurricane Katrina is a topical example of these methods, as were 9/11 and the London bombings. Katrina and the collapse of the levees was an engineered disaster with the engineered lack of response. It is part of the silent war on human perception. I was highly suspicious from the start of the American media’s enthusiastic condemnation of the Katrina fiasco because it was so out of character. As the Silent Weapons document says, the media’s role is to ‘Keep the adult public attention diverted away from the real social issues, and captivated by matters of no real importance.’ The media’s other prime focus is normally to scour Washington in search of bums to lick. But not this time. There was clearly a campaign to enrage public opinion to the maximum. Why? To manipulate the nation to change the rules on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. In others words, the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.


This act was intended to prohibit Federal troops from supervising elections in former Confederate states. It generally prohibits Federal military personnel and units of the United States National Guard under Federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorised by the Constitution or Congress. Coupled with the Insurrection Act the powers of the federal government to use the US military for law enforcement are limited and delayed. The original act only referred to the Army, but the Air Force was added in 1956 and the Navy and Marine Corps have been included by a regulation of the Department of Defense. This law is mentioned whenever it appears that the Department of Defense is interfering in domestic disturbances

To change the rules on military law enforcement on American soil they have created a massive problem – the chaos and lack of response to Hurricane Katrina. It requires only the most basic understanding of the human survival response to know that if help was delayed all hell would start to break loose as the victims did whatever they could to survive. They knew it would lead to looting and violence, and that the sick and depraved would take advantage of the weak with rape and other grotesque abuses of physical power. That was the idea because the silent weapon methodology was targeting, in part, the reluctance of many Americans to have the military involved in law enforcement. But that is what is happening now in New Orleans and, as these reports detail, there is pressure to change the rules altogether:



HERE WE GO ... THE REAL REASON (AMONG MANY) FOR THE KATRINA FIASCO: PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION

Wider Powers for U.S. Forces in Disasters Are Under Review


http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm ("]U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Russel L Honore now heads the military operation in New Orleans[/url]

'A senior White House official said Saturday that in the wake of the hurricane that demolished part of the nation's Gulf Coast, the Bush administration was studying whether to expand the president's powers to deploy the U.S. military in natural disasters. Dan Bartlett, counsellor to President Bush, said that the administration was reviewing whether to increase the president's power to dispatch troops at the outset of a disaster and to give them law enforcement duties.


"There's agreement that this is something that has to be studied," Bartlett said in an interview.'





this is how they engineered the public.. 1) KATRINA DEVASTATION FOLLOWED BY PATHETIC LACK OF RESPONSE, LEADING TO LOOTING AND VIOLENCE 2) 'SOMETHING MUST BE DONE' (said en mass by the masses) 3) ADVANCEMENT OF ILLUMINATI AGENDA FOR MILITARY CONTROL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT (SOLUTION)

... all of which makes sense of this story about CNN ...

CNN PRODUCERS TOLD ON-AIR GUESTS: GET ANGRY

After weeks of intense Katrina coverage from the main press, LA TIMES guru and former CNN host Michael Kinsley divulges that CNN was coaching guests to artificially enhance emotions!

Kinsley writes:

"The TV news networks, which only a few months ago were piously suppressing emotional fireworks by their pundits, are now piously encouraging their news anchors to break out of the emotional straitjackets and express outrage. A Los Angeles Times colleague of mine, appearing on CNN last week to talk about Katrina, was told by a producer to 'get angry.'"

Source ... From Federal Failure Arises More Federal Power[/b]

'Lawlessness, the eruption of which was guaranteed by delayed relief, provides cover both for martial law, which suspends constitutional protections, and for the confiscation of legally owned private firearms in violation of the Second Amendment to the US Constitution. Everyone has by now seen the images of troops and police breaking into New Orleans homes and pointing weapons in the faces of residents. US military even described survivors as "insurgents." (At time of writing news reports are confused whether martial law exists in New Orleans. Some reports have the mayor declaring martial law; others report that the state has declared its version of martial law. Most constitutional experts believe martial law requires an act of Congress or a presidential order or both.)'

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[u]'A picture postcard of the new Amerika, where flaming skull festooned SWAT Team thugs go house to house dragging out old ladies and seizing legally held firearms. It's the perfect government response to a human catastrophe, send trained killers in to intimidate the desperate refugees!' (javascript:ol('http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/september2005/130905swatthugs.htm');)



Flaming skulls.. with all the Symbolry used, how can people ridicule the existence of a force like the illuminati?


Police forcibly tackling elderly, confiscating firearms and dragging them out of their homes

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'Louisiana must fight planned bio-attack on New Orleans'

'... Dr. Michael Baden appeared on Geraldo Rivera's Saturday night hour to explain that you will get more exposure to active bacteria by changing a baby's diaper than you will walking through the New Orleans floodwaters. Baden pointed out that as long as you don't drink the water you should be fine, and the idea that people on dry land with access to clean water should be forcibly evacuated is ridiculous. And earlier that night on Fox, former Public Health Director for New Orleans, Brobson Lutz explained that the idea mosquitoes would spread diseases from corpses to the living, has long since been proven to be nonsense.'

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To enforce the domestic law and, in the words of the neocons, ‘fight and win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars’, they will need to instigate the Draft – the forced enlistment of young people, and the not so young, into the military to kill and be killed while building and policing their own prison. Silent Weapons for a Quiet War explains how they seek to manipulate people into the Draft mentality:


‘Few efforts of human behavior modification are more remarkable or more effective than that of the socio-military institution known as the draft. A primary purpose of a draft or other such institution is to instil, by intimidation, in the young males of a society the uncritical conviction that the government is omnipotent. He is soon taught that a prayer is slow to reverse what a bullet can do in an instant. Thus, a man trained in a religious environment for eighteen years of his life can, by this instrument of the government, be broken down, be purged of his fantasies and delusions in a matter of mere months. Once that conviction is instilled, all else becomes easy to instil.

Even more interesting is the process by which a young man's parents, who purportedly love him, can be induced to send him off to war to his death. Although the scope of this work will not allow this matter to be expanded in full detail, nevertheless, a course overview will be possible and can serve to reveal those factors which must be included in some numerical form in a computer analysis of social and war systems.

We begin with a tentative definition of the draft.

The draft: (selective service, etc.) is an institution of compulsory collective sacrifice and slavery, devised by the middle aged and the elderly for the purpose of pressing the young into doing the public dirty work. It further serves to make the youth as guilty as the elders, thus making criticism of the elders by the youth less likely (Generational Stabilizer). It is marketed and sold to the public under the label of "patriotic - national" service.'

taken from the Quiet weapons for a quiet war.

It is vital that Americans – or anyone else – do not fall for this. They can’t fight wars if we won’t fight them and they can’t create their military state if we won’t don the uniform and point the gun.


FEMA


FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, that has taken the fall for the [manufactured] chaos following Katrina. But the ‘fall’ is just more smoke and mirrors. FEMA will end up with much more money and power as a result of its engineer incompetence, just as the FBI and CIA have done since 9/11. FEMA is part of a network of interconnecting control that includes Homeland Security and the now centralised ‘Intelligence’ network headed by the utterly disgraceful John Negroponte. Talking of utterly disgraceful, one of the key people behind FEMA was Oliver North of Iran-Contra drugs-for-arms fame. Below is a story this week about his REX 84 ‘exercise’ and a very good article about the background to REX 84 and the incredible powers given to FEMA. The agency was created in 1979 by executive order signed by president Carter, but really developed during the Reagan-Bush (Bush-Reagan) administration. An early director was one Louis O. Giuffrida, a Bush cousin. To give you an idea of the mentality controlling FEMA, ‘during the late sixties and early seventies, Giuffrida had served as Governor Reagan's terrorism advisor and at Reagan's request founded the California Specialized Training Institute (CSTI), a school for police and military commandos. To quote an early CSTI instruction manual: "Legitimate violence is integral to our form of government, for it is from this source that we can continue to purge our weaknesses."’


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Most Americans had never even heard of this obscure government agency before syndicated columnist Jack Anderson reported in October 1984 that FEMA had prepared bizarre "standby legislation" that would, in the event of a national crisis, "suspend the constitution (javascript:ol('http://100777.com/plan.htm');) and the Bill of Rights, effectively eliminate private property, abolish free enterprise, and generally clamp Americans in a totalitarian vice." In any self-respecting banana republic, such a document might be called a blueprint for a coup d'état. FEMA called it "national security" planning.”’

FEMA is the Patriot Act on crack

'Once its powers are unleashed, Oliver North's REX 84 "exercise" will become a reality. The Constitution will be suspended and FEMA will have the right to detain or seize the property of anyone even suspected of engaging in, or who might be thinking of conspiring with others to engage in acts of espionage or sabotage. REX 84 also advocated rounding up and transferring to "assembly centers or relocation camps" of at least 21 million American Negroes in the event of massive rioting or disorder, not unlike the rounding up of the Jews in Nazi Germany in the 1930s.'

This is what has been planned and organised while most of the people have been watching a game or a game show - ignorance may be bliss, but only for a while.

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These are some reports this week that have further confirmed both the military control of New Orleans and the disaster area and the financial killing the Elite are preparing to make:


Blackwater Mercenaries: Coming Soon to Your Town

'It is now obvious how martial law (not officially declared as such) will work in America in the wake of the devastation of New Orleans. Instead of federal troops or an influx of National Guard troops sent to “restore order” (the latter mandated in our now anachronistic Constitution; see Article 1, Section 8) and empowered to “suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions,” in Louisiana the state and federal governments have brazenly violated the Constitution by sending in Blackwater Security and other private goon squads.'

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New Orleans: covert operations underway?

'Malik Rahim ... gave a gut-wrenching and shocking firsthand account of the staggering horror of still-neglected New Orleans that he and other survivors are facing. In stark contrast to increasingly optimistic mainstream media coverage (cover-up) about "improving relief efforts" and "rebuilding," Rahim exposed the fact that there is no relief. No Red Cross, no food, no emergency medical care under a FEMA lockdown that has kept any relief from getting into New Orleans.

Meanwhile, as the Bush administration's combat operations ramp up, and troops prowl the streets, no help whatsoever has been offered to residents, according to Rahim. Rotting corpses litter the streets. People, heroically fending for themselves and their own, are being left in shocking conditions to suffer and die.'

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Power Grab in New Orleans - Riptide of the Brownshirts

The response of federal emergency management was delayed until survivors desperate for food and water (and some for a drug fix) began looting. In keeping with James Q. Wilson's "broken window" analogy, looting for survival quickly spread into general lawlessness on the part of some elements.

The lawlessness provided cover for the federal government to violate the Posse Commitatus Act and send in regular military troops to police civilian populations. (Both the New York Times on September 8 and the Washington Post on September 4 and September 11 report that federal or active duty troops are being used along with National Guard and police.)'

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Same old story: Firms with Bush ties win Katrina deals

'Companies with ties to the Bush White House and the former head of FEMA are clinching some of the administration's first disaster relief and reconstruction contracts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. At least two major corporate clients of lobbyist Joe Allbaugh, President George W. Bush's former campaign manager and a former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, have already been tapped to start recovery work along the battered Gulf Coast. One is Shaw Group Inc. and the other is Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. Vice President Dick Cheney is a former head of Halliburton.'

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Dallas Meeting Plans New Orleans Rebuilding - Without Poor Blacks

'Dallas meeting plans reconstruction of New Orleans without poor African Americans. According to well-informed New Orleans sources, New Orleans' wealthiest families, including those who are direct descendants of the French who settled New Orleans (not the Acadians [Cajuns] who were poor refugees from British tyranny in Nova Scotia) are meeting in Dallas today with Bush administration officials, New Orleans city officials, wealthy Texas oilmen, and bankers to plan for the reconstruction of New Orleans.

These wealthy New Orleans residents live in the gated community of Audobon Place, a section of the city near the Garden District replete with personal helipads that still has running water and sewage and was only slightly affected by hurricane Katrina. It is now reportedly being patrolled by private Israeli security forces.'

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Joe Allbaugh, Disaster Pimp

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'Allbaugh is no mere dabbler in "the private-sector response" to government needs. He's a lobbyist and a consultant who's been cashing in on his close ties to President Bush since 2003. Allbaugh, in addition to being Bush's first FEMA chief (Allbaugh's college roommate Michael Brown succeeded him), was Bush's chief of staff when he was governor of Texas and campaign manager to Bush during the 2000 election. Now Allbaugh is the man to see if you want a contract in Iraq, or a piece of the action on homeland security, or, apparently, a shot at rebuilding New Orleans. "I don't buy the 'revolving door' argument," Allbaugh told the National Journal last year. "This is America. We all have a right to make a living."'

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BUSH PLAN TO MASSIVELY UNDERSTATE DEATH TOLL

'A rumor from inside FEMA states that the Bush administration has devised a strategy to try to handle the death count issue...it plans to "lowball" the figures (that's already come true with the statement by Brown's replacement), and to dribble the figures out, released not as cumulative totals, but in groups of several hundred...over a prolonged period time. All the while blocking the release of any graphic photos, putting a gag order on all people involved in the body recovery, and not listing unclaimed bodies (in some cases, whole families died and there is no one to claim them) with the "official count."'

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THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED WITH HURRICANE ANDREW
check previous post,,


Silent Weapons for a Quiet War details the ‘diversion strategy’ used all the time to focus attention in the required direction and away from what the public mustn’t see. This is why whenever there is a major event, like 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina, we need to be especially vigilant for what is happening elsewhere behind that cover, a fact encapsulated by the infamous email by UK government spinner, Jo Moore, on September 11th 2001 which said that this was a ‘good day to bury bad news.’ This is the Silent Weapons formula for mass diversion:

‘Experience has prevent that the simplest method of securing a silent weapon and gaining control of the public is to keep the public undisciplined and ignorant of the basic system principles on the one hand, while keeping them confused, disorganized, a and distracted with matters of no real importance on the other hand.

This is achieved by:

1. disengaging their minds; sabotaging their mental activities; providing a low-quality program of public education in mathematics, logic, systems design and economics; and discouraging technical creativity.

2. engaging their emotions, increasing their self-indulgence and their indulgence in emotional and physical activities, by:


(a) unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental and emotional rape) by way of constant barrage of sex, violence, and wars in the media - especially the TV and the newspapers.
(b) giving them what they desire - in excess - "junk food for thought" - and depriving them of what they really need.


(3) rewriting history and law and subjecting the public to the deviant creation, thus being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities.

These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapons of social automation technology.

The general rule is that there is a profit in confusion; the more confusion, the more profit. Therefore, the best approach is to create problems and then offer solutions.’

note the emphasis on creating chaos. In this case, the problem causing the chaos is Hurricane Katrina and the collapse of the levees. How appropriate, then, that both the strength of the hurricane, its location and the ‘failed’ levees are now coming under increasing scrutiny by people with a mind to call their own:

'EXPLOSIVE RESIDUE FOUND ON FAILED LEVEE DEBRIS'

'Divers inspecting the ruptured levee walls surrounding New Orleans found something that piqued their interest: Burn marks on underwater debris chunks from the broken levee wall! One diver, a member of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, saw the burn marks and knew immediately what caused them. When he surfaced and showed the evidence to his superior, the on-site Coordinator for FEMA stepped-in and said "You are not here to conduct an investigation as to why this rupture occurred, but only to determine how best to close it."

The FEMA coordinator then threw the evidence back into the water and said "You will tell no one about this.” At that point, the diver went back down to do more inspection of the levee. On the second dive, he secreted a small chunk of the debris inside his wet suit and later arranged for it to be sent to trusted military friends at the U.S. Army Forensic Laboratory at Fort Gillem, Georgia for testing. According to well placed sources, a military forensic specialist determined the burn marks on the cement chunks did, in fact, come from high explosives. The source, speaking on condition of anonymity said "We found traces of boron-enhanced fluoronitramino explosives as well as PBXN-111 embedded in the debris. This would indicate at least two separate types of explosive devices."'

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Locals and Officials Suggest Levees were Intentionally Blown

'Could the levees in New Orleans have been INTENTIONALLY blown out in order to provide the justification for total FEMA federal takeover? The locals certainly seem to think so, yet, as usual, the mainstream media is barely picking up on this wave of opinion, so it is left to us once again to bring the issue into the open.'

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Floodwall breaches a 'mystery'

'It probably will take months to investigate and make a conclusive determination about what happened, according to the Army Corps of Engineers. But two Louisiana State University scientists who have examined the breaches suggest that a structural flaw in the floodwalls might be to blame.

"Why did we have no hurricane levee failures but five separate places with floodwall failures?" asked Joseph Suhayda, a retired LSU coastal engineer who examined the breaches last week. "That suggests there may be something about floodwalls that makes them more susceptible to failure.'

(And explosives)

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These paramedics have confirmed the claims by countless people that many who could have escaped from New Orleans were not allowed to do so:


POLICE STOPPED DESPERATE SURVIVORS FROM LEAVING NEW ORLEANS, SAY PARAMEDICS

'... the group set out for a bridge called the Crescent City Connection, where they would find the help they so desperately needed. But when they arrived atop the highway, the paramedics said, they were met by more police officers, this time from neighboring Gretna, La., who weren't letting anyone pass.

"If I weren't there, and hadn't witnessed it for myself, I don't think I would have ever believed this," Bradshaw said. The officers fired warning shots into the air and then levelled their weapons at members of the crowd, Bradshaw said. He approached, hands in the air, displaying his paramedic's badge.

"They told us that there would be no Superdomes in their city,'' the couple wrote. "These were code words that if you are poor and black, you are not crossing the Mississippi River -- and you weren't getting out of New Orleans.'''

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just to ... add a little a flavour

While Katrina dominates the news ... massacres continue in Talafar

'For the tenth consecutive day, the Iraqi city of Talafar is being subject to air and land siege by the U.S. occupation forces that are committing the ugliest forms of military operations against this city.

Information received indicate a human disaster that the residents of this city are facing as a result of the one-week siege imposed on them. This siege is coupled with a fierce military operation that has resulted in countless civilian deaths while also destroying the city. Dozens of martyrs have fallen as a result of this military operation in addition to hundreds wounded, including women and children. Houses and infrastructure are being destroyed and electricity and water has been cut. Occupation forces are preventing any food and medical assistance to enter the city, foreboding an even worse human disaster.'



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PEACE

Taskmaster
09-26-2005, 03:10 PM
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1577753,00.html

It may be the oddest tale to emerge from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Armed dolphins, trained by the US military to shoot terrorists and pinpoint spies underwater, may be missing in the Gulf of Mexico.


Experts who have studied the US navy's cetacean training exercises claim the 36 mammals could be carrying 'toxic dart' guns. Divers and surfers risk attack, they claim, from a species considered to be among the planet's smartest. The US navy admits it has been training dolphins for military purposes, but has refused to confirm that any are missing.

Dolphins have been trained in attack-and-kill missions since the Cold War. The US Atlantic bottlenose dolphins have apparently been taught to shoot terrorists attacking military vessels. Their coastal compound was breached during the storm, sweeping them out to sea. But those who have studied the controversial use of dolphins in the US defence programme claim it is vital they are caught quickly.

Leo Sheridan, 72, a respected accident investigator who has worked for government and industry, said he had received intelligence from sources close to the US government's marine fisheries service confirming dolphins had escaped.

'My concern is that they have learnt to shoot at divers in wetsuits who have simulated terrorists in exercises. If divers or windsurfers are mistaken for a spy or suicide bomber and if equipped with special harnesses carrying toxic darts, they could fire,' he said. 'The darts are designed to put the target to sleep so they can be interrogated later, but what happens if the victim is not found for hours?'

Usually dolphins were controlled via signals transmitted through a neck harness. 'The question is, were these dolphins made secure before Katrina struck?' said Sheridan.

The mystery surfaced when a separate group of dolphins was washed from a commercial oceanarium on the Mississippi coast during Katrina. Eight were found with the navy's help, but the dolphins were not returned until US navy scientists had examined them.

Sheridan is convinced the scientists were keen to ensure the dolphins were not the navy's, understood to be kept in training ponds in a sound in Louisiana, close to Lake Pontchartrain, whose waters devastated New Orleans.

The navy launched the classified Cetacean Intelligence Mission in San Diego in 1989, where dolphins, fitted with harnesses and small electrodes planted under their skin, were taught to patrol and protect Trident submarines in harbour and stationary warships at sea. Criticism from animal rights groups ensured the use of dolphins became more secretive. But the project gained impetus after the Yemen terror attack on the USS Cole in 2000. Dolphins have also been used to detect mines near an Iraqi port

deep deep shit happening 2012 is soo soo near

Triple B
09-26-2005, 03:35 PM
funny, I read an article simlilar to this one last week, but there they were blaming the russian KGB and Yakuza-mob for hurricane katrina lol..

anyway, I'm gonna look into that weather manipulation biznizz, sounds interesting.

edit: here's the article: http://www.weatherwars.info/

Visionz
09-26-2005, 05:01 PM
Controller, my question would be, accepting that the Illuminati is real, what as a people can we do to stop them?

ratty mayonnaise
09-26-2005, 06:13 PM
to stop them.. spread love.. dont resinate frequencys that stem from FEAR

7EL7
09-26-2005, 06:18 PM
was nothing natural about that disaster

Golden_Armz
09-26-2005, 06:38 PM
Lmao