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Prolifical ENG
09-21-2005, 10:10 AM
I have read posts in this forum for a while now. The reason why this forum failed in the past was some people could not think critically. This means reasoning for an opposing view, if your own position is worth holding, then the outcome is a better understanding of the issue. This is how everyone can gain more knowledge and understanding from a thread in this "Know The Ledge" forum.

Just coming into a thread and stating your opinion (and possibly quoting someone elses similar opinion), is weak and not worth reading and little knowledge and understading will be made. You should be able to reason to make your post stronger.

It is "critical" to think critically in this forum since many topics here have and likely always will be dealing with BELIEFS.

Any belief can be viewed as an investment of trust so once some beleifs are made, one will feel tied in or committed. People are naturally egocentric and naturally inclined to defend our values and postitions when they are threatened. When threads go through this pattern they are generally lost for which the thread turned to something it wasnt intended to do. Not every thread is meant for people to debate....although the easiest thing to do in this forum is to nitpick the fallacies someone else has posted

Some people need to learn how to back down from positions which they cannot defend and try to salvage their "investment". Instead, try looking at the opposing views. Even if an opposing view is strong, it may not actually change your current belief structure.

In short if you cant think critically and be able to reason, this forum may not be for you.

LHX
09-21-2005, 10:15 AM
cooooooooooooooooooooo-sign


even tho i find idiots to be amusing sometimes

Soul Controller
09-21-2005, 12:17 PM
100% truth


peace Prolific

THE W
09-21-2005, 12:23 PM
agreed

Prince Rai
09-21-2005, 02:18 PM
dats knowledge right there

peace

TeknicelStylez
09-21-2005, 02:24 PM
Indeed thats why I'm just observing until I gather up my stack of reasearch, than I'm posting scientific information up here. I'm going to attempt an attack on string theory, and other formidable theories lingering in our scientific/mathmatical universe.

This should be a sticky. (suggestion)

Prince Rai
09-21-2005, 02:29 PM
most definitely do.. ill be interested.. tho would everybody understand?

this should educate not polarize nahmean?

TeknicelStylez
09-21-2005, 04:06 PM
most definitely do.. ill be interested.. tho would everybody understand?

this should educate not polarize nahmean?Of course I'ma break it down into english, although its never the same as explaining it using mathematics but you know we'll take it slow.

BlaK FuRYaN
09-21-2005, 05:04 PM
I agree....runnin around in circles searching for corners with no solutions

Visionz
09-23-2005, 06:56 AM
The world on the whole needs less ignorance. Does it seem to anyone else here that the entire world suffers from a short attention span? There's so much I want to do to go out and make a difference in the world but I feel like I have to take care of things on the homefront first. Between work to pay bills and school to educate myself, it doesn't leave me much time to be involved the way I would like to be in things like grassroot political movements etc. Sometimes I think society is set up this way to keep everybody distracted. A lack of focus directed at changing our current system can only be beneficial to the people that currently hold the power in this country, and evidently little help to anyone else.peace

LHX
09-23-2005, 08:45 AM
ignorance is the only conspiracy

ignorance is the only disease

self vs. self

TeknicelStylez
09-23-2005, 08:50 AM
You don't have to go out on big movement sprees, although it would be nice. Just educate yourself, and you'll inspire other people around you to do the same. Just by waking up those few people your making a difference, because in turn they will wake up people to, understand?

LHX
09-23-2005, 09:08 AM
QUIP

the

QUantum Inseperability Principle

dont front

TeknicelStylez
09-23-2005, 12:36 PM
LOL atoms are sexy, nothing turns me on like bonding particals and their relativity.

LHX
09-23-2005, 01:47 PM
LOL atoms are sexy, nothing turns me on like bonding particals and their relativity.
have you seen the centerfold in augusts 'subatomic particle of the month' pullout section?

hot shit

Prolifical ENG
09-28-2005, 09:58 AM
Im glad some of you can think the same way.....that means we can get somewhere around here.

The problem is there are now too many threads where they are created not to build but rather to attack groups of people, then a series of ad hominems start, making the threads even worse.

That means we need to start from zero since there are numerous that dont know how a forum like this supposed to function.

TeknicelStylez
09-28-2005, 10:18 AM
Agreed maybe we should present the situation to mods, tell them to lay down strict rules.

diggy
03-26-2009, 12:20 AM
i agree with pro

LORD NOSE
07-28-2009, 12:27 AM
up

Prolifical ENG
09-23-2009, 01:06 PM
Wow I was smart back when I went to school. Nowadays what I said seems obvious but it could be obviously not. We all need to start from zero sometimes.

This reminds me a few months ago when LHX and I met up after one of the classes he used to teach. We briefly talked about some of our KTL posts from 2005 and 2006 and wondered how we ever got to that level of thinking.

jason$ones'
10-23-2009, 10:08 PM
[QUOTE=LHX;178791]cooooooooooooooooooooo-sign

save the children

jason$ones'
10-23-2009, 10:12 PM
is it all a lie

zooruka
11-02-2009, 01:52 AM
. The reason why this forum failed in the past was some people could not think critically.

No the reason why this forum fails is because people talk jibberish like reptilians, muslim leaders flying in spaceships hahahah, to black chinese...seriously I like k.t.l as a concept but some people just talk absolout nonsense.

peace be with you !

Visionz
11-02-2009, 02:34 AM
No the reason why this forum fails is because people talk jibberish like reptilians, muslim leaders flying in spaceships hahahah, to black chinese...seriously I like k.t.l as a concept but some people just talk absolout nonsense.

peace be with you !

indeed, lets discuss how the suns revolves around the earth and how if the bible said it it HAS to be the truth. Lets talk about that.

Prince Rai
11-02-2009, 05:53 AM
No the reason why this forum fails is because people talk jibberish like reptilians, muslim leaders flying in spaceships hahahah, to black chinese...seriously I like k.t.l as a concept but some people just talk absolout nonsense.

peace be with you !

men walking on water, healing the blind or like going up into heaven physically and chilling next to the Lord although he is him, burning and killing anybody who dare say the earth revolved around the sun, the pope apologising to the family of galileo in the "naughties"....

Prolifical ENG
11-02-2009, 10:22 AM
No the reason why this forum fails is because people talk jibberish like reptilians, muslim leaders flying in spaceships hahahah, to black chinese...seriously I like k.t.l as a concept but some people just talk absolout nonsense.

peace be with you !

I dont know if you can say this forum "fails" after it's lifespan. Those topics you listed are the ones that get the most views.

Nevertheless from my original post, so what if they are posting like that? If you are thinking critically and want to discuss those things without changing someone's belief structure, you should be at least finding out why they are drawing those conclusions rather than dismissing the posters as a nutjobs. Most of the time its someone thinking they know why the poster is drawing the conclusions and make a straw-man, shallower version than the conclusion really is. In reality its part of a denial process.

I did my share of entering those topics without interfering with clashing belief structures and trying to learn from them. Now I can just avoid most of them since I already did those discussions.

LORD NOSE
11-02-2009, 01:19 PM
No the reason why this forum fails is because people talk jibberish like reptilians,


Genesis 3:1
[ The Fall of Man ] Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
Genesis 3:1-3 (in Context) Genesis 3 (Whole Chapter)

Exodus 7:9
"When Pharaoh says to you, 'Perform a miracle,' then say to Aaron, 'Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,' and it will become a snake."
Exodus 7:8-10 (in Context) Exodus 7 (Whole Chapter)



So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this,
"Cursed are you above all the livestock
and all the wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.

15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring [a] and hers;
he will crush [b] your head,
and you will strike his heel.


according to the bible,The Serpent has offspring ?

would the offspring of a serpent be reptiles ?


would it be incorrect to call the children of a serpent reptilians ?





muslim leaders flying in spaceships hahahah, to black chinese...seriously I like k.t.l as a concept but some people just talk absolout nonsense.

peace be with you !


Isaiah 19:1
[ A Prophecy About Egypt ] An oracle concerning Egypt: See, the LORD rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt within them.
Isaiah 19:1-3 (in Context) Isaiah 19 (Whole Chapter)


Jeremiah 4:13
Look! He advances like the clouds, his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined!
Jeremiah 4:12-14 (in Context) Jeremiah 4 (Whole Chapter)


christian leaders riding on a swift cloud sound about correct to you ?

SG
05-17-2010, 10:22 PM
KTL keep doing what you do:clap:

John Prewett
02-20-2011, 04:30 AM
"I bear witness that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger.

Obey
12-30-2012, 10:45 PM
I guess people are so passionate about their beliefs, cus its either changed their lives or they've witnessed other people do the same that they dont take a second thought. Ive been guilty of doing this but if you take the time to listen you'll find that different circumstances take a different approach. This is a good subject we can learn from more than just a post on a forum


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