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TeknicelStylez
09-25-2005, 11:39 AM
While looking for more information on hurricane katrina so I can get my own ideas on what actually occured, (everyone has a million and one different opinions on what they believe happened, I'm trying to see all the angles.) I came across this sight.

http://www.weatherwars.info/

Scott Stevens is a meteorologist who beleives weather is just not natural anymore. He believes it hasn't been for a long time now, and its the cause of many problems today. He provides adequate research, proof, and sources on all of his claims and theories. Each article has photos, marked with indicators of the abnormalities, with extensive text explaning what is wrong with each one, some are obvious. He also has videos of phenomenal cloud occurances that he claims are "completely unnatural".

Check out this energy vortex.

http://www.weatherwars.info/Animations/ScalarVortex_30.wmv

I have been noticing frequent contrail planes all over the skies which was just explained to me with this article.

http://www.weatherwars.info/chemtrails.htm

I haven't fully explored this sight, but most of the information I read so far is pretty interesting. So far it's a good contribution to my insight as to whats occuring lately.

Prince Rai
09-25-2005, 11:53 AM
that was a fantastic read Tek...
def did show new light..

TeknicelStylez
09-25-2005, 12:47 PM
No problem Prince, just looking to build on this sort of stuff, on some present fact A with fact B in rebuttal, not on some opinionated 8 page argument.

Prince Rai
09-25-2005, 12:49 PM
yes indeed...
facts are def better than an argument with no direction..

hey did u look at my indus valley article i linked up??
just also felt like sharin that history to show that the world is so diverse and build on beauty through all means of the world..


peace n blessings

TeknicelStylez
09-25-2005, 01:00 PM
I'll check it out, I also plan on trying to make scientific contributions to KTL.

Prince Rai
09-25-2005, 01:02 PM
yap that sounds good.. at least it would contribute to KTL..

hmm what scientific contributions u thinkin of.. werent u gonna introduce various theories such as the string theory?

TeknicelStylez
09-25-2005, 01:06 PM
Not string theory more brane theory I keep forgetting to bring my papers from my granmothers house :'(.

Prince Rai
09-25-2005, 01:17 PM
Not string theory more brane theory I keep forgetting to bring my papers from my granmothers house :'(.
lol ill be def lookin out for your stuff Tek

for now im off

peace n blessingz

TeknicelStylez
09-25-2005, 11:17 PM
Wow other people's threads with useless information, asking rediculous questions, get more than 200 hits and 10 pages of worthless non fact based arguing, mine has 7 comments from the same people 2 people.

If this is what KTL is all about maybe it shouldve stayed shut down.

TeknicelStylez
09-26-2005, 02:38 AM
This Is A Useful Contribution To Ktl.

Taskmaster
09-26-2005, 02:49 AM
yes in my researches i found out they made a law in 1973 that states you cannot modify weather...they made a law that long ago so the shit has BEEN out and people have BEEN into this shit...fucking freemasons

TeknicelStylez
09-26-2005, 02:51 AM
Can you post sources I.E. the law itself, or sites emphasising on free masons influence on weather modification. I don't like statements straight from someones mouth I like evidence.

Taskmaster
09-26-2005, 02:54 AM
ill find it

TeknicelStylez
09-26-2005, 02:55 AM
Thanks.

Taskmaster
09-26-2005, 03:02 AM
New legislation not designed to foster pleasant or productive weather, but planned as tool of weaponized weather control, already well tested and in use since 1976. Amateur and hostile weather-makers alike likely to lose their technology to the military.

this is the main link http://pesn.com/2005/09/06/9600160_Weather_Modification/


some highlights:

"Bill S.517 sets up an eleven-member board of directors to oversee all the research on weather control, and to direct funding to projects. The wording sounds typically bureaucratic and innocuous. Except for the fact that the title of the act includes the words “technology transfer”, there is no specific reference to possible confiscation of privately-held equipment. However, there are gray areas, such as "and for other purposes" and other vague phrases that periodically appear in the text."


to my knowledge weather machines been out...and now the us military is trying to snuff out any private orginizations from using or making thier machines.

TeknicelStylez
09-26-2005, 03:04 AM
Thanks for the contribution.

PEACE

Taskmaster
09-26-2005, 03:08 AM
oh yeah and the freemason part was fabricated by me..but honestly freemasons are pretty wierd...and they have alot of pull

TeknicelStylez
09-26-2005, 03:19 AM
Indeed, but people tend to over exagerate when it comes to free mason pull.

TeknicelStylez
09-26-2005, 02:46 PM
Bump

soul controller
09-27-2005, 01:29 PM
i thought id post this in here,,, insytead of cluttering up ktl!

for background do searches for
HAARP , scalar and tesla technologys (tesla!! lol that game humans must die.. shit.. they give a lot away in that like majestic useing subliminals to brainwash humans and tesla satellites !! w00t)
sorry anywho

copy and pasted article from cloak and dagger




CLOAK AND DAGGER EXCLUSIVE

www.cloakanddagger.de (http://www.cloakanddagger.de/)

COPYRIGHT 2005



SPECIAL:
GOVERNMENT/MEDIA DATA FRAUD EXPOSED

READ TO THE END!



Datapage:

Scalar Weather Wars 2

(Hurricane Rita)

by: Dr. jur. Stefan Grossmann, German Attorney, Frankfurt

Thursday 9-22-5 ff.



For datapage nr. 1 (hurricane Katrina) click here:

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Grossmann/Scalar_Weather_Wars_Datapage.htm (http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Grossmann/Scalar_Weather_Wars_Datapage.htm)



1. APOLOGY TO THE READER:

We didn’t think we would need a second datapage in the next ten years, because as CNN reports,

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/22/rita/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/22/rita/index.html)



"Category 5 storms -- which can generate storm surges higher than 18 feet and can cause catastrophic damage to buildings -- are rare. Only three such monsters have made landfall in the United States in the past 70 years, including Andrew in 1992, Camille in 1969 and the unnamed storm that hit the Florida Keys in 1935."



After the events in

1935,

1969 and

1992

and the fourth being hurricane Katrina in Aug/early Sept 2005,

(all separated by 13 years or longer),

the next such monster, Rita, is barreling in way ahead of time – not 13 years but

> three weeks <

later.



We do not fail to notice this sharp spiking surge in event frequency.



By nature, these monsters used to come seldom and far apart. And now, two of the biggest ones in less than one month? Just at a period when some of the heads of the shadow government are facing exposure and indictment and losing a major war in Iraq? At a period when they are desperate for a seemingly natural diversion to save their necks from the chopping block? Yipes! What a wacky, strange and incomprehensible coincidence! It is so unnatural!



Rita’s time of occurrence is totally and absolutely unnatural! Rita, like Katrina (see datapage nr. 1) must be a man-made storm, a „HAARPicane“!



So we thought we wouldn’t need a second datapage so soon, but we were fooled, we openly admit. We hereby apologize to our readers for this oversight.



2. ADDITIONAL HURRICANE FRAUD DOCUMENTATION:

We need this second datapage to document Rita, this additional hurricane fraud. Not being meteorologists we rely on the following documentation and research by others, as fraudulent events are unfolding:



9-22-5: Here are two updates from http://flhurricane.com/ (http://flhurricane.com/) from this morning and yesterday night (CD time):



7 AM Update

Hurricane Rita has maintained its intensity overnight but now has dropped to 170MPH winds this morning, The pressure has risen above 900 again, and the storm has found a more northern component to the motion, so tracks have shifted right, to the right side of the Bay near Galveston. And may shift again, either way.



Regardless anywhere along that part of the coast in the cone needs to prepare.







Intensity wise with the new track, it stays over the warmer currents for longer, but more shear is forecast in the future, so some weakening is expected before landfall, but when and where are important with that.



The track has trended north and east of late, and it will be interesting to see if this continues or even reverses.



11PM Update

Hurricane Rita remains the 3rd strongest storm ever recorded in the Atlantic basin by pressure.







The pressure now sits at 897mb (26.49 in), with maximum sustained winds of 150kt/170-175mph. It is still moving generally westward, with a hint of a northerly component.

Slight additional strengthening is forecast within the next 12 hours before slow weakening to landfall as a intense category 4 or 5 storm along the central Texas coastline.



It is currently forecast to landfall just west of Galveston. Hurricane Watches may be upgraded to warnings tomorrow morning for portions of the hurricane watch area.





Image courtesy SkeetobiteWeather.com (http://www.skeetobiteweather.com/)



I found the following quote off the internet,

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=25425 (http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=25425)

which we believe might have been stimulated by the aspect of weather wars:



Impeach Scumbag Bush NOW! (Score:1)

By BajaRat (http://www.phxnews.com/user.php?op=view&mname=BajaRat) on Tuesday September 13, 2005 at 12:52 pm MST (#77170 (http://www.phxnews.com/comment.php?cid=77170))

(http://teamamericapac.org/ (http://teamamericapac.org/))

Jorge Bush is crazier than a peach orchard boar, is as crooked as a dog’s hind leg, and should have been impeached years ago. The crazier he gets the worse off the American people will be. He’s gotten so bad that the congress ought to remove that SOB and lock him up before he kills anyone else.



9-23-5: It’s Friday in America’s greatest HAARPicane season ever. Before and after their landfall, HAARPicanes continue to change America’s Gulf coast into a Halliburton theme park.



Captain Eric May in his 9-21-5 briefing in the Members Archives,

http://www.cloakanddagger.de described research by his group: The main energy source for >natural< hurricanes is warm water, often a loop current and eddy vortex, in the Gulf of Mexico. This is also described by NASA on their web site,

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/h2005_rita.html (http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/h2005_rita.html)



Rita Roars Through a Warm Gulf



[COMMENT BY SG: CAUTION EXTREME BS, SEE BELOW!]



Image above: This sea surface height map of the Gulf of Mexico, with the Florida peninsula on the right and the Texas-Mexico Gulf Coast on the left, is based on altimeter data from four satellites including NASA’s Topex/Poseidon and Jason. Red indicates a strong circulation of much warmer waters, which can feed energy to a hurricane. This area stands 35 to 60 centimeters (about 13 to 23 inches) higher than the surrounding waters of the Gulf.



The actual track of a hurricane is primarily dependent upon steering winds, which are forecasted through the use of atmospheric models. However, the interaction of the hurricane with the upper ocean is the primary source of energy for the storm. Hurricane intensity is therefore greatly affected by the upper ocean temperature structure and can exhibit explosive growth over warm ocean currents and eddies. Eddies are currents of water that run contrary to the direction of the main current.



According to the forecasted track through the Gulf of Mexico, Hurricane Rita will continue crossing the warm waters of a Gulf of Mexico circulation feature called the Loop Current and then pass near a warm-water eddy called the Eddy Vortex, located in the north central Gulf, south of Louisiana.



Image credit: NASA/JPL/University of Colorado (photo ID: PIA06427, date: 09/21, graph added for 09/22 with yellow marker showing hurricane eye location on 09/22 that date at 10 am CDT, sustained wind speeds in MPH)



Captain Eric May further said that such a strange and suspicious warm water formation was impossible in this given situation. Bless you, Captain Eric May!



This set me off researching the water temperatures of the Gulf of Mexico and their recorded history. Is Captain Eric May correct? Is this warm water loop and eddy vortex in the Gulf normal or artificial? What do we know about this? Here is an overview:



3. THE CNN COUNTER-ARGUMENT ARTICLE:

CNN filed a counter-argument article to fend off any meaningful analysis of the causes,

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/09/23/hurricane.cycle/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/09/23/hurricane.cycle/index.html)

It says little concrete but sets the stage for a specific oceanographic analysis, so I quote the article here in full:



It’s a ‘New Era’ of Hurricanes

Experts: String of intense storms is part of normal cycle

By Ann O’Neill

CNN

Friday, September 23, 2005; Posted: 2:07 p.m. EDT (18:07 GMT)



(CNN) -- Hurricanes aren’t behaving like many of us are used to them behaving. They’re bigger and meaner, and more numerous than many people have seen.



Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne tore up parts of Florida last year. After tweaking Florida, Katrina and Rita are wreaking havoc this year along the Gulf Coast from Alabama to Texas.

But don’t rush to blame it on global warming, experts warn.



Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center in Miami, told a Senate subcommittee on Tuesday that we’re in a period of heightened hurricane activity that could last another decade or two. (…)



"The increased activity since 1995 is due to natural fluctuations (and) cycles of hurricane activity driven by the Atlantic Ocean itself along with the atmosphere above it and not enhanced substantially by global warming," he testified.



Mayfield’s colleague at the National Hurricane Center, meteorologist Chris Landsea, said two recent studies about global warming and hurricanes raise more questions than they answer. He added that the impact of global warming is "minimal for the foreseeable future."

Landsea said the studies indicate global warming could increase hurricane wind speeds and rainfall by about 5 percent --100 years from now. But, he added, more study is needed, looking back at historical data and making it more compatible with modern reporting techniques.



The debate over global warming



Brenda Ekwurzel, climate scientist of the Union of Concerned Scientist National Climate Education Program, told CNN that while global warming might not be causing hurricanes, it already is making them more intense.



"We would never point to a single weather event and blame global warming," she said. "While hurricanes have bedeviled the Gulf Coast region for years, global warming is making matters worse."



Ekwurzel points to recent studies indicating that carbon dioxide is raising ocean temperatures.

"And those warmer oceans are converting low-grade storms into powerful hurricanes," she said. "In short, the warm oceans are like fuel to a hurricane. It’s like throwing gasoline on a fire."



But not all hurricane experts are willing to make the link between global warming and hurricanes. At least not yet.



They say the string of major storms that have struck the southeastern United States over the past two seasons signal a return to normal.



Return to normal



"From 1970 to 1995, there weren’t that many hurricanes, and the ones we had were nice, well-mannered, housebroken hurricanes that stayed out to sea and didn’t make a mess," said Hugh Willoughby, a hurricane researcher at Florida International University in Miami.



"The only thing I can say,“ he added, „is this run of good luck we had is ending."



"This year you can just say nature is averaging out its climatology," said Colorado State University’s famed hurricane predictor, William Gray. (…)



Katrina and Rita are what Gray calls "Bahama busters," storms that form off the Bahamas rather than near the coast of Africa. They explode after feeding on the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico.



The past century saw 18 "Bahama busters," Gray said.



Even Katrina’s and Rita’s back-to-back pounding of the Gulf Coast has a precedent. In 1915, Gray said, New Orleans and Houston areas were hit by Category 4 storms six weeks apart.



"You can’t blame that on global warming," he observed.



Gray first sounded the alarm in 1995, noting that the surface waters in the north Atlantic Ocean had warmed slightly. 1995 saw 11 hurricanes and eight tropical storms, the highest tally since 1933.



By 1997, Gray’s annual forecasts warned of „a new era“ of hurricanes.



He put forth the theory that many climatologists, including Mayfield and Willoughby, now embrace -- that hurricanes are driven by cycles of rising water temperature and salinity that affect the speed of currents in the Atlantic.



Warm currents drive hurricanes



The technical name for the engine driving the hurricane cycles is the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, or AMO for short. It can cause droughts in the West and hatch hurricanes in the East.



"This cycle has been repeating back to the Ice Age," Willoughby said. "It’s related to changes in the ocean currents that move heat northward. If it’s fast, we get a lot of hurricanes."



Studies show the AMO was cool -- and the currents slower -- from 1900 to 1925, warm from 1926 to 1969, cool from 1970 to 1994 and warm since 1995.



And so, to a generation of Americans with little experience with hurricanes, it seems like these monsters are coming out of nowhere.



Gray and Willoughby are among the skeptics who doubt global warming can be blamed for the trend of the past few years. They are joined by the hurricane trackers at the National Hurricane Center.



"We’re just entering a busy time here.," said Chris Lauer, a meteorologist at the center.



"You see a few decades of slower activity, followed by a few decades of higher oscillation," he said. "Our position is the recent increase in hurricane activity is not caused by global warming."



Researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, Georgia, suggested earlier this month that more than nature and coincidence might be driving the storms.



More study needed



In the September’s issue of the journal Science, Peter Webster and Judith Curry documented a 60 percent global jump in major hurricanes with winds of 131 mph or more and a 1-degree increase in the tropical ocean surface temperature.



But Webster warned on Georgia Tech’s Web site that more study was needed before blaming global warming.



"We need a longer data record of hurricane statistics," he said, "and we need to understand more about the role hurricanes play in regulating the heat balance and circulation in the atmosphere and oceans."



Willoughby said he is keeping an open mind about the role of global warming but believes it won’t be a factor for at least another 100 years.



"The answer I give everybody, because it has all been so politicized, is I don’t know," he said.



Gray was more direct. "There are all these medicine men out there who want to capitalize on general ignorance on this subject," he said.



"With all the problems in the world, we shouldn’t be dealing with this.“



Willoughby believes the debate over hurricanes and global warming is healthy. „It’s good for the science,“ he said.



The piece is cited in full as evidence: It is a thinly veiled admission for those who can read between the lines that something is seriously wrong.



4. CHECKING CAPTAIN MAY’S COUNTER-COUNTER-ARGUMENT:

The University of Colorado at Bolder released on 9-15-5 the following analysis similar to the NASA analysis cited above,

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2005/358.html (http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2005/358.html)



An image produced by a University of Colorado at Boulder team shows the wind speeds of Hurricane Katrina increasing dramatically as it passes through the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico’s Loop Current toward the Gulf Coast in late August.



Processed at CU-Boulder’s Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research, or CCAR, the image was produced with data from four satellites that use altimeters to measure sea-surface height to an accuracy of less than one inch. The researchers extrapolated ocean temperatures from subtle height changes in the water measured by altimeters bouncing microwave pulses from the satellites to the ocean surface and back, said aerospace engineering Associate Research Professor Robert Leben of CCAR.



The sea-surface height image shows the warm Loop Current standing 20 inches to 30 inches higher than the surrounding water, said Leben.



As Katrina passed over the Loop Current, it gained a huge amount of energy from the unusually warm waters that subsequently increased its maximum winds, said Leben. The storm evolved from a Category 3 hurricane to a Category 5 hurricane in just nine hours by converting heat from the Loop Current into energy, he said.



"A hurricane is like a steam engine,“ said Leben. "The more heat that is put into it, the faster it is going to run. When I saw the predicted storm track over the Loop Current, I became concerned we might see a doomsday scenario."



In the Gulf of Mexico, there is a tight correlation between the sea-surface height measured by the satellites and the temperature of the waters, said Leben. "The higher the sea-surface is above the mean, the deeper the warm water underneath it," he said.



According to CCAR Director George Born, an aerospace engineering professor who works with Leben, the conditions in the Loop Current were unusual. „Ordinarily, the Loop Current does not intrude this far north and west into the Gulf,“ Born said. „If it had not, the storm would not have gained such intensity.“



The CCAR researchers used data from the U.S./French TOPEX/Poseidon and Jason-1 satellites, as well as the U.S. Navy’s Geosat Follow-On satellite and the European Space Agency’s Envisat satellite. They then combined the data with hurricane wind speed and position data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to produce the unique image, Leben said.



The Rutgers University has released opposite source information (as far as I can tell, not being a meteorologist but on the other hand not being color blind, either),

http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/sat_data/?bm=8&bd=13&by=2005&sort=date&em=9&ed=23&ey=2005&region=gulfmexico&product=sst&nothumbs=0&okb.x=43&okb.y=11 (http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/sat_data/?bm=8&bd=13&by=2005&sort=date&em=9&ed=23&ey=2005&region=gulfmexico&product=sst&nothumbs=0&okb.x=43&okb.y=11)



Review the large images for August 26 through 31. As a result you will find that hurricane Katrina passed over surface water that has the coldest (purple, blue) markings on the entire temperature scale (73°F - 77°F). The argument of Katrina being heated up by warm surface water is total bullshit. Warm surface water had nothing at all to do with Katrina. There was no warm surface water; it was cold water. – Four examples:

August 26, 2005 (http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/show/?file=../regions/gulfmexico/sst/noaa/2005/img/050826.238.0339.n17.jpg)

August 27, 2005 (http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/show/?file=../regions/gulfmexico/sst/noaa/2005/img/050827.239.0907.n16.jpg)

August 28, 2005 (http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/show/?file=../regions/gulfmexico/sst/noaa/2005/img/050828.240.0856.n16.jpg)

August 29, 2005 (http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/show/?file=../regions/gulfmexico/sst/noaa/2005/img/050829.241.0844.n16.jpg)

These are the best available source images. They prove that Katrina passed over exceptionally cold water while it exploded into a category 5 monster hurricane. The contradiction compounded graphics are not based on data but are very likely forgeries.



In this section we are getting into

the government/media „data” fraud.



Thus, Captain May’s counter-counter-argument is correct: the very warm Gulf waters as depicted in fancy government graphics are a 100% concoction and fraud. The truth is devastating: There was not the slightest natural reason for Katrina to explode into a monster.



I suspect the same is going on for hurricane Rita. Let’s check, using four examples from the Rutgers University page again:

September 20, 2005:


NOAA-12 September 20, 2005 11:02 GMT 224kb (http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/show/?file=../regions/gulfmexico/sst/noaa/2005/img/050920.263.1102.n12.jpg)

Comment: the loop feeder stream between Cuba and Yucatan is:

purple, blue: coldest water on the temperature scale.



September 21, 2005:


NOAA-12 September 21, 2005 10:37 GMT 220kb (http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/show/?file=../regions/gulfmexico/sst/noaa/2005/img/050921.264.1037.n12.jpg)

Comment: the entire Gulf waters are cold. Parts are covered by the

hurricane clouds. How could any person or machine measure

under them without getting destroyed?



September 22, 2005:



Hurricane Rita passing over very cold (purple/blue) water,

Loop current feeder stream is cold, the glimpse through

the eye shows cold water. See larger pictures online,

http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/sat_data/?bm=8&bd=13&by=2005&sort=date&em=9&ed=23&ey=2005&region=gulfmexico&product=sst&nothumbs=0&okb.x=43&okb.y=11 (http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/sat_data/?bm=8&bd=13&by=2005&sort=date&em=9&ed=23&ey=2005&region=gulfmexico&product=sst&nothumbs=0&okb.x=43&okb.y=11)



September 23, 2005:



Hurricane Rita passing over very cold (purple/blue) water.



CONCLUSION:

Thus, Captain May’s counter-counter-argument is correct: the very warm Gulf waters as depicted in fancy government graphics are a 100% concoction and fraud. The manifest truth is devastating: There was not the slightest natural reason for Rita to explode into a monster. We are witnessing devastating shadow government scalar eco-terrorism (weather wars) on an unprecedented scale



http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Grossmann/WEATHER%20WARS%202/Scalar_Weather_Wars_Datapage_2.htm


peace

TeknicelStylez
09-28-2005, 09:49 AM
Peace brother, thanks for the contribution I'll look into it later.