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mend005
09-26-2005, 08:39 PM
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050925/APN/509250757&cachetime=3&template=dateline
... as whiter than black in a musem exhibit co-sponsored by National Geographic, despite research done and drawings depecting him as black.

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
09-26-2005, 09:37 PM
peace.


Don't be surprised by the fictional portrayal. They've done that with alot of historic and well-known individuals (i.e. Jesus, Siddartha, etc). Anyways.., it's a damn shame just because there is alot of substantial evidence laying around to know what is actual fact. Why do you think the nose and lips are missing from the Sphinx....and the gazillions of large to even small statues, sculptures..and other artifacts...are missing the same physical features?

peace..

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

Popa Chief
09-26-2005, 09:49 PM
Lets all fucking cry about a 3000 year old dead dude being displayed as white.

quanwanted
09-26-2005, 09:59 PM
he wasnt black and he definitly wasnt white..........look where he lived in egypt so therefore he was middle eastern looking

Soul Controller
09-27-2005, 03:02 AM
rofl^^ look at how the 'egyptians' saw themselves and the recognisable features they puton themselves as well as other types of humans they met, they had different paintings for aryans/middle eastern/people from west africa/europe/america's

and they sure as fuck didnt see them selves as middle eastern looking ;/

Prince Rai
09-27-2005, 05:41 AM
he wasnt black and he definitly wasnt white..........look where he lived in egypt so therefore he was middle eastern looking
not necessarily..

if u go look at egypt.. you will see many skin colours lol

this is so stupid i dont feel like saying much on that..



as for the problem as to why many historic figures are portrayed as white..

its a shame and a scam which tries to fool people... there is a deep issue with this as it is wrong to falsely educate people..

i mean seriously with Jesus.. blue eys blonde hair..white skin

give me a break

Luther Large
09-27-2005, 06:26 AM
stupid people.........man race bigots would argue wether to consider a dalmatian black or white..........man they'd argue over the color of dog shit...it's fuckin sickenin.......i'm gettin tired of this race shit.....from every race........people need to keep they mouths shut....

i hope half the world turns into zombies..that way people will care more about you being human than what color you are:lmao:

Golden_Armz
09-27-2005, 07:05 AM
Peace, indeed the earlier Pharoahs were more 'black' than light skinned, but we are talkin thousands of years of Pharaonic rule therefore the Nubians and Egyptians mixed not only with themselves but Syrians/Greeks/Arabs etc. therefore many of the later Pharoahs were more light skinned. I agree though they dont want to portray a black man in high status and Sphinx is a good example.....The Sphinx is as early as you will get Original Pharoah and he obviously looks Black.

Also in terms of Egyptians....the Coptic Egyptians are seen as the direct descendant of the Pharoahs and they range from light/brown skin to very dark, but they dont look black as most people percieve black....that wud be the Nubs....Peace

LHX
09-27-2005, 09:05 AM
michael jordan was also black

LHX
09-27-2005, 09:05 AM
michael jordan was also black
and i think he still is

Prince Rai
09-27-2005, 02:03 PM
and i think he still is
lol thats a good example...

id kill if anybody in the future portrays him white or sumin..



lets be real

tajeco
09-28-2005, 08:37 PM
whatever. none of us benefit no matter what skin tone he had, he could have been green, what's the fucking difference, fucking pride mongers are all the fucking same, go deep throat a popsicle

SubliminaL_tha_7th_BorN
09-28-2005, 11:10 PM
peace.

I don't see anyone crying about anything. I strongly believe heads just can't get past the fact...it's just a topic....and discussion. That's it...nothing more, nothing less. These type of topics...and similar ones...will always be discussed..because this deals with miseducation....and alot of fallacy. Some people happen to be pro-truth regardless of this social construct called race. And being an advocate of truth....or accuracy...why not build to eliminate the lies? Education and miseducation are more powerful than alot of people believe..., look at the world's chaos.


Anyways, peace.

SubliminaL tha 7th BorN

nut_end
09-29-2005, 10:37 AM
of course like blacks can't look white or blue black, i mean liz taylor tried and all with trying to show how the 'gyptians were white but if thats the case napolean wouldn't have blown the nose of sphinx and herodotus the so-called father of history by greeks says the people of egypt are not like the greeks or romans and thats much later but in same time frame as 'stolen legacy' a book to boot 'bout how the greeks went to kemet bearing gifts to be come inducted in the 'mystry cults' that were prevalent only to go back and become philosophers and/or mathematicans, the great pyramid equations to the earth and sky yet pythagorean comes up with triangles , i started to ramble a bit so a question before jetting? did xeno's paradox about the race b/t hare and turtle have any thing to do with the soul traveling towards conscience and flesh going after for consciousness?

they turned the cult of isis into the black madonna of the vatican church.

Shemsu Elohim
10-09-2005, 03:28 AM
Check this out:






http://members.tripod.com/~pc93/anacv1b1.htm


Eusebius* states the Ethiopians to have come and settled in Egypt, in the time of Amenophis. According to this account, as well as to the account given by Philostratus,** there was no such country as Ethiopia beyond Egypt until this invasion. According to Eusebius these people came from the river Indus, and planted themselves to the south of Egypt, in the country called from them Ethiopia. The circumstances named by Eusebius that they came from the Indus, at all events, implies that they came from the East, and not from the South, and would induce a person to suspect them as having crossed the Red Sea from Arabia; …

* In Chron. ad Num. 402.

** In vita Apollon. Tyanei.

Herodotus says, that there were two Ethiopian nations, one in India, the other in Egypt. He derived his information from the Egyptoian priests, a race of people who must have known the truth; …

Philostratus* says, that the Gymnosophists of Ethiopia, who settle near the sources of the Nile, descended from the Bramins of India, having been driven thence for the murder of their king.** This, Philostratus says, he learnt from an ancient Brahmin, called Jarchas.

* Vita Apoll. C. vi.

** Crawford, Res. Vol. II p.193.

Another ancient writer, Eustathius, also states, that the Ethiopians came from India. These concurring accounts can scarcely be doubted; and here may be discovered the mode and time also when great numbers of ancient rites and ceremonies might be imported from India into Egypt; …

Page 57


Mr. Wilsford, in his treatise on Egypt and the Nile, in the Asiatic Researches, informs us, that many very ancient statues of the God Buddha in India have crisp, curly hair, with flat noses and thick lips; and adds, "nor can it be reasonably doubted, that a race of Negroes formerly had power and pre-eminence in India."

This is confirmed by Mr. Maurice, who says, "The figures in the Hindoo caverns are of a very different character from the present race of Hindoos : their countenances are broad and full, the nose flat, and the lips, particularly the under lip, remarkably thick." …

Justin states, that the Phœnecians being obliged to leave their native country in the East, they settled first near the Assyrian Lake, which is the Persian Gulf; and Maurice says, "We find an extensive district, named Palestine, to the east of the Euphrates and Tigris. The word Palestine seems derived from Pallisthan, the seat of the Pallis or Shepherds." Palli, in India, means Shepherd.

… It is a well-known fact that our Hindoo soldiers when they arrived in Egypt, in the late war, recognized the Gods of their country in the ancient temples, particularly their God Cristna.

The striking similarity, indeed identity, of the style of architecture and the ornaments of the ancient Egyptian and Hindoo temples, Mr. Maurice has proven beyond all doubt. …



Foreign prisoners of Ramesses III:

Libyan, Nubian, Syrian, Shasu Bedouin, and Hittite.



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… The tribe of Cristna had a name, … which is very remarkable. Captain Wilford says, "The Yadus, his own tribe and nation, were doomed to destruction for their sins, like the descendants of YAHUDA or YUDA, which is the true pronunciation of JUDA.* …" Mr. Maurice says, "The Yadavas were the most venerable emigrants from India; they were the blameless and pious Ethiopians,** whom Homer mentions, and calls the remotest of mankind. Part of them, say the old Hindu writers, remained in this country; and hence we read of two Ethiopian nations, the Western and the Oriental. Some of them lived far to the East; and they are the Yadavas who stayed in India, while others resided far to the West."***



From the tomb of Seti I:

Syrian, Nubian, Libyan, Egyptian


http://www.christianodyssey.com/images/bible/seti.jpg







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… Thus, in fact, the ancient system of letters of India and Ethiopia may be considered the same, notwithstanding their great distance and the intervention of so many other nations lying between them.*

* Vide Maur. Ant. Ind. Vol. IV. pp. 414-417.

Bardisanes Syrus* gives this account of the Indians : "Among the Indians and Bactrians there are many thousand men called Brachmanes. These, as well from the tradition of their fathers as from laws, neither worship images nor eat what is animate : they never drink wine or beer : they are far from all malignity, attending wholly on God." Philostratus** says, "that in his time the chief of the Brahmins was called Iarch, and Jerom contra Jovin says, the head of the Gymnosophists was called Buddas.*** Mr. Bryant says, "Nilus the Egyptian tells Apollonius Tyannæus, that the Indi of all people in the world were the most knowing, and that the Ethiopians were a colony from them, and resembled them greatly. Philostratus says, the Indi are the WISEST of all mankind. The Ethiopians are a colony from them, and they inherit the wisdom of their forefathers."****

* In Euseb. Præpar. Evang. Lib. vi. Cap. viii. ** Lib. iii. in vita Apol. Tyan.

*** Gale, Court of Gent. Book II. p.74. **** Anal. Anc. Myth. Vol. III. p.219

Gale* observes, on the authority of Philostratus, in the life of Apollonius and of Jerom,** that the philosophers of Ethiopia were called Gymnosophists, and that they received their name and philosophy from India.

* Court. Of Gent. Vol. II. p.75. ** Lib. iv. in Ezech. Cap. xiii.

Arrian says,* the inhabitants upon the Indus are in their looks and appearance not unlike the Ethiopians. Those upon the southern coast resemble them the most; for they were very black; …

* Hist. Indica, p.320.

Page 458


The use of the tonsure, by both Indian Buddhists of Tibet, and African Ethiopians, is a striking circumstance; and the prohibition of it, by Moses, as one contrivance to separate his people from their neighbours or ancestors,—as it proves that they once had it, tends to prove the original identity of the three nations. …

"The most venerable emigrants from India were the Yadavas; they were the blameless and pious Ethiopians, whom Homer mentions and calls the remotest of mankind. Part of them, say the old Hindoo writers, remained in this country, and hence we read of two Ethiopian nations, the Western and the Oriental : some of them lived far to the East, and they are the Yadavas who stayed in India; while others resided far to the West, and they the sacred race who settled on the shores of the Atlantic.[?] We are positively assured by Herodotus, that the Oriental Ethiopians were Indians, and hence we may infer, that India was known to the Greeks, in the age of Homer, by the name of Eastern Ethiopia."* "About this time," says Eusebius,** "some Ethiopians taking leave of their country upon the river Indus, came and settled in Egypt. Hence it is that Bacchus*** has been represented as the son of the river Indus. Hence arose also the notion that the Indian Dionusos was the most ancient : …" Plutarch**** tells us, that Phylarchus said, that Bacchus first brought the worship of the two Boves called Apis and Osiris, from India into Egypt. … I entertain a strong suspicion that these Boves were the horned male and female Osiris and Isis, for Apis was nothing but another name for Osiris.

* Maur. Hist. Hind. II. p.262. ** Chron. p.26

*** Philostrat. Vita Apollonii, lib. i. p.64 **** Isis et Osiris, Vol. II. p.362

Page 459


The ancients constantly called the country above the Egyptian cataracts India, and its inhabitants Indians. This is strikingly confirmatory of my hypothesis, that they came from India.* No one can suppose the Greek authors, from whom we have this account, to have made a mistake, and to have believed the country South of Thebes, was the country East of the Euphrates. It therefore follows that they must have been called Indians because they were known or believed to have come from India. …

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 09:45 AM
^Interesting information, and the pictures describe the look of these ethnic groups well....it seems the features havent changed much after all these years, they resemble them well....

You should conclude what u posted, like a general overview of what this is saying-Peace

Shemsu Elohim
10-09-2005, 11:09 AM
Peace


I don't really have much to say.

Just wanted to show that the Ancient Kemetians were definitely not similiar to light skinned Europeans in appearance.


You're right in implying that it's kind of random and could have been put to together in a better way.

Mumm Ra
10-09-2005, 11:29 AM
Kemetians even referred to themselves as black men/gods (Kemau)

Ghost In The 'Lac
10-09-2005, 11:47 AM
National Geographic is owned by Rupert Murdoch so dont beleive anything they tell you

Shemsu Elohim
10-09-2005, 02:43 PM
Is he a Zionist or something^^^?


Anyway...

About this:


Godfrey Higgins:

Eusebius* states the Ethiopians to have come and settled in Egypt, in the time of Amenophis. According to this account, as well as to the account given by Philostratus,** there was no such country as Ethiopia beyond Egypt until this invasion. According to Eusebius these people came from the river Indus, and planted themselves to the south of Egypt, in the country called from them Ethiopia. The circumstances named by Eusebius that they came from the Indus, at all events, implies that they came from the East, and not from the South, and would induce a person to suspect them as having crossed the Red Sea from Arabia; …


Actually, the Kemetians say that they originally came from the South from Nubia(see Muata Ashby's works), but the Theosophists say(see C.W. Leadbeater's Hidden Life in Freemasonry) that people of the Toltec sub-race of the Aryan root race(of a reddish brown skin tone) came to Kemet from India by way of Arabia, and mixed with the Kushites who had already settled the Nile Valley.....

Born Ruler I
10-10-2005, 10:47 AM
The Kemau were originally sub- Saharan peoples who settled along the Nile. The Kush and Nubian people were also originally sub-Saharan. The lineage can be traced through language and spiritual systems.

In some depictions the Nubian and Kemau people are depicted as being identical, with others having different characteristics.

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