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Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-17-2009, 08:12 PM
tobacco companies were banned from adding harmful substances to them?

The List of 599 Additives in Cigarettes

* Acetanisole
* Acetic Acid
* Acetoin
* Acetophenone
* 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
* 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
* 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
* Acetylpyrazine
* 2-Acetylpyridine
* 3-Acetylpyridine
* 2-Acetylthiazole
* Aconitic Acid
* dl-Alanine
* Alfalfa Extract
* Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
* Allyl Hexanoate
* Allyl Ionone
* Almond Bitter Oil
* Ambergris Tincture
* Ammonia
* Ammonium Bicarbonate
* Ammonium Hydroxide
* Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
* Ammonium Sulfide
* Amyl Alcohol
* Amyl Butyrate
* Amyl Formate
* Amyl Octanoate
* alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
* Amyris Oil
* trans-Anethole
* Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
* Anise
* Anise Star, Extract and Oils
* Anisyl Acetate
* Anisyl Alcohol
* Anisyl Formate
* Anisyl Phenylacetate
* Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
* Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
* 1-Arginine
* Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
* Ascorbic Acid
* 1-Asparagine Monohydrate
* 1-Aspartic Acid
* Balsam Peru and Oil
* Basil Oil
* Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
* Beeswax White
* Beet Juice Concentrate
* Benzaldehyde
* Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
* Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
* Benzoin Resin
* Benzophenone
* Benzyl Alcohol
* Benzyl Benzoate
* Benzyl Butyrate
* Benzyl Cinnamate
* Benzyl Propionate
* Benzyl Salicylate
* Bergamot Oil
* Bisabolene
* Black Currant Buds Absolute
* Borneol
* Bornyl Acetate
* Buchu Leaf Oil
* 1,3-Butanediol
* 2,3-Butanedione
* 1-Butanol
* 2-Butanone
* 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
* Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
* Butyl Acetate
* Butyl Butyrate
* Butyl Butyryl Lactate
* Butyl Isovalerate
* Butyl Phenylacetate
* Butyl Undecylenate
* 3-Butylidenephthalide
* Butyric Acid]
* Cadinene
* Caffeine
* Calcium Carbonate
* Camphene
* Cananga Oil
* Capsicum Oleoresin
* Caramel Color
* Caraway Oil
* Carbon Dioxide
* Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
* Carob Bean and Extract
* beta-Carotene
* Carrot Oil
* Carvacrol
* 4-Carvomenthenol
* 1-Carvone
* beta-Caryophyllene
* beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
* Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
* Cassia Bark Oil
* Cassie Absolute and Oil
* Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
* Cedar Leaf Oil
* Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
* Cedrol
* Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
* Cellulose Fiber
* Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
* Chicory Extract
* Chocolate
* Cinnamaldehyde
* Cinnamic Acid
* Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
* Cinnamyl Acetate
* Cinnamyl Alcohol
* Cinnamyl Cinnamate
* Cinnamyl Isovalerate
* Cinnamyl Propionate
* Citral
* Citric Acid
* Citronella Oil
* dl-Citronellol
* Citronellyl Butyrate
* itronellyl Isobutyrate
* Civet Absolute
* Clary Oil
* Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
* Cocoa
* Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
* Coconut Oil
* Coffee
* Cognac White and Green Oil
* Copaiba Oil
* Coriander Extract and Oil
* Corn Oil
* Corn Silk
* Costus Root Oil
* Cubeb Oil
* Cuminaldehyde
* para-Cymene
* 1-Cysteine
* Dandelion Root Solid Extract
* Davana Oil
* 2-trans, 4-trans-Decadienal
* delta-Decalactone
* gamma-Decalactone
* Decanal
* Decanoic Acid
* 1-Decanol
* 2-Decenal
* Dehydromenthofurolactone
* Diethyl Malonate
* Diethyl Sebacate
* 2,3-Diethylpyrazine
* Dihydro Anethole
* 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
* Dill Seed Oil and Extract
* meta-Dimethoxybenzene
* para-Dimethoxybenzene
* 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
* Dimethyl Succinate
* 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione
* 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
* 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
* 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
* 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
* 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
* 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
* alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
* alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
* alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
* 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
* 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
* 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
* Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
* delta-Dodecalactone
* gamma-Dodecalactone
* para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
* Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
* Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
* Ethyl Acetate
* Ethyl Acetoacetate
* Ethyl Alcohol
* Ethyl Benzoate
* Ethyl Butyrate
* Ethyl Cinnamate
* Ethyl Decanoate
* Ethyl Fenchol
* Ethyl Furoate
* Ethyl Heptanoate
* Ethyl Hexanoate
* Ethyl Isovalerate
* Ethyl Lactate
* Ethyl Laurate
* Ethyl Levulinate
* Ethyl Maltol
* Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate
* Ethyl Myristate
* Ethyl Nonanoate
* Ethyl Octadecanoate
* Ethyl Octanoate
* Ethyl Oleate
* Ethyl Palmitate
* Ethyl Phenylacetate
* Ethyl Propionate
* Ethyl Salicylate
* Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate
* Ethyl Valerate
* Ethyl Vanillin
* 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
* 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 -Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
* 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
* 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
* 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
* 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
* 4-Ethylguaiacol
* para-Ethylphenol
* 3-Ethylpyridine
* Eucalyptol
* Farnesol
* D-Fenchone
* Fennel Sweet Oil
* Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
* Fig Juice Concentrate
* Food Starch Modified
* Furfuryl Mercaptan
* 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
* Galbanum Oil
* Genet Absolute
* Gentian Root Extract
* Geraniol
* Geranium Rose Oil
* Geranyl Acetate
* Geranyl Butyrate
* Geranyl Formate
* Geranyl Isovalerate
* Geranyl Phenylacetate
* Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
* 1-Glutamic Acid
* 1-Glutamine
* Glycerol
* Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
* Grape Juice Concentrate
* Guaiac Wood Oil
* Guaiacol
* Guar Gum
* 2,4-Heptadienal
* gamma-Heptalactone
* Heptanoic Acid
* 2-Heptanone
* 3-Hepten-2-One
* 2-Hepten-4-One
* 4-Heptenal
* trans -2-Heptenal
* Heptyl Acetate
* omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
* gamma-Hexalactone
* Hexanal
* Hexanoic Acid
* 2-Hexen-1-Ol
* 3-Hexen-1-Ol
* cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
* 2-Hexenal
* 3-Hexenoic Acid
* trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
* cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
* Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
* Hexyl Acetate
* Hexyl Alcohol
* Hexyl Phenylacetate
* 1-Histidine
* Honey
* Hops Oil
* Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
* Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
* 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
* 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
* 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
* 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
* 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
* 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
* Hydroxycitronellal
* 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
* 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
* Hyssop Oil
* Immortelle Absolute and Extract
* alpha-Ionone
* beta-Ionone
* alpha-Irone
* Isoamyl Acetate
* Isoamyl Benzoate
* Isoamyl Butyrate
* Isoamyl Cinnamate
* Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
* Isoamyl Isovalerate
* Isoamyl Octanoate
* Isoamyl Phenylacetate
* Isobornyl Acetate
* Isobutyl Acetate
* Isobutyl Alcohol
* Isobutyl Cinnamate
* Isobutyl Phenylacetate
* Isobutyl Salicylate
* 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
* alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
* Isobutyraldehyde
* Isobutyric Acid
* d,l-Isoleucine
* alpha-Isomethylionone
* 2-Isopropylphenol
* Isovaleric Acid
* Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
* Kola Nut Extract
* Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
* Lactic Acid
* Lauric Acid
* Lauric Aldehyde
* Lavandin Oil
* Lavender Oil
* Lemon Oil and Extract
* Lemongrass Oil
* 1-Leucine
* Levulinic Acid
* Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder
* Lime Oil
* Linalool
* Linalool Oxide
* Linalyl Acetate
* Linden Flowers
* Lovage Oil And Extract
* 1-Lysine]
* Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
* Magnesium Carbonate
* Malic Acid
* Malt and Malt Extract
* Maltodextrin
* Maltol
* Maltyl Isobutyrate
* Mandarin Oil
* Maple Syrup and Concentrate
* Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
* para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
* Menthol
* Menthone
* Menthyl Acetate
* dl-Methionine
* Methoprene
* 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
* 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
* para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
* 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
* 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
* 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
* Methoxypyrazine
* Methyl 2-Furoate
* Methyl 2-Octynoate
* Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
* Methyl Anisate
* Methyl Anthranilate
* Methyl Benzoate
* Methyl Cinnamate
* Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
* Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
* Methyl Isovalerate
* Methyl Linoleate (48%)
* Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
* Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
* Methyl Nicotinate
* Methyl Phenylacetate
* Methyl Salicylate
* Methyl Sulfide
* 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
* 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
* 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
* 5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
* 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
* 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
* 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
* 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
* 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
* 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
* 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
* 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
* 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
* Methyl-alpha-Ionone
* Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
* 4-Methylacetophenone
* para-Methylanisole
* alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
* alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
* 2-Methylbutyraldehyde
* 3-Methylbutyraldehyde
* 2-Methylbutyric Acid
* alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
* Methylcyclopentenolone
* 2-Methylheptanoic Acid
* 2-Methylhexanoic Acid
* 3-Methylpentanoic Acid
* 4-Methylpentanoic Acid
* 2-Methylpyrazine
* 5-Methylquinoxaline
* 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
* (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
* 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
* Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
* 2-Methylvaleric Acid
* Mimosa Absolute and Extract
* Molasses Extract and Tincture
* Mountain Maple Solid Extract
* Mullein Flowers
* Myristaldehyde
* Myristic Acid
* Myrrh Oil
* beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
* Nerol
* Neroli Bigarde Oil
* Nerolidol
* Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
* 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
* gamma-Nonalactone
* Nonanal
* Nonanoic Acid
* Nonanone
* trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
* 2-Nonenal
* Nonyl Acetate
* Nutmeg Powder and Oil
* Oak Chips Extract and Oil
* Oak Moss Absolute
* 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%)
* delta-Octalactone
* gamma-Octalactone
* Octanal
* Octanoic Acid
* 1-Octanol
* 2-Octanone
* 3-Octen-2-One
* 1-Octen-3-Ol
* 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
* 2-Octenal
* Octyl Isobutyrate
* Oleic Acid
* Olibanum Oil
* Opoponax Oil And Gum
* Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute
* Orange Oil and Extract
* Origanum Oil
* Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract
* Palmarosa Oil
* Palmitic Acid
* Parsley Seed Oil
* Patchouli Oil
* omega-Pentadecalactone
* 2,3-Pentanedione
* 2-Pentanone
* 4-Pentenoic Acid
* 2-Pentylpyridine
* Pepper Oil, Black And White
* Peppermint Oil
* Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
* Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
* alpha-Phellandrene
* 2-Phenenthyl Acetate
* Phenenthyl Alcohol
* Phenethyl Butyrate
* Phenethyl Cinnamate
* Phenethyl Isobutyrate
* Phenethyl Isovalerate
* Phenethyl Phenylacetate
* Phenethyl Salicylate
* 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
* 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
* 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
* 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
* 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
* Phenylacetaldehyde
* Phenylacetic Acid
* 1-Phenylalanine
* 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
* 3-Phenylpropionic Acid
* 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
* 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
* 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
* Phosphoric Acid
* Pimenta Leaf Oil
* Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
* Pineapple Juice Concentrate
* alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
* D-Piperitone
* Piperonal
* Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
* Plum Juice
* Potassium Sorbate
* 1-Proline
* Propenylguaethol
* Propionic Acid
* Propyl Acetate
* Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
* Propylene Glycol
* 3-Propylidenephthalide
* Prune Juice and Concentrate
* Pyridine
* Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
* Pyrrole
* Pyruvic Acid
* Raisin Juice Concentrate
* Rhodinol
* Rose Absolute and Oil
* Rosemary Oil
* Rum
* Rum Ether
* Rye Extract
* Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin
* Salicylaldehyde
* Sandalwood Oil, Yellow
* Sclareolide
* Skatole
* Smoke Flavor
* Snakeroot Oil
* Sodium Acetate
* Sodium Benzoate
* Sodium Bicarbonate
* Sodium Carbonate
* Sodium Chloride
* Sodium Citrate
* Sodium Hydroxide
* Solanone
* Spearmint Oil
* Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil
* Sucrose Octaacetate
* Sugar Alcohols
* Sugars
* Tagetes Oil
* Tannic Acid
* Tartaric Acid
* Tea Leaf and Absolute
* alpha-Terpineol
* Terpinolene
* Terpinyl Acetate
* 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
* 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
* 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
* 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
* Thiamine Hydrochloride
* Thiazole
* 1-Threonine
* Thyme Oil, White and Red
* Thymol
* Tobacco Extracts
* Tochopherols (mixed)
* Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract
* Tolualdehydes
* para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
* para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
* para-Tolyl Acetate
* para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
* para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
* Triacetin
* 2-Tridecanone
* 2-Tridecenal
* Triethyl Citrate
* 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol
* para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
* 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
* 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
* 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
* 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
* 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
* 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
* 1-Tyrosine
* delta-Undercalactone
* gamma-Undecalactone
* Undecanal
* 2-Undecanone, 1
* 0-Undecenal
* Urea
* Valencene
* Valeraldehyde
* Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
* Valeric Acid
* gamma-Valerolactone
* Valine
* Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
* Vanillin
* Veratraldehyde
* Vetiver Oil
* Vinegar
* Violet Leaf Absolute
* Walnut Hull Extract
* Water
* Wheat Extract And Flour
* Wild Cherry Bark Extract
* Wine and Wine Sherry
* Xanthan Gum
* 3,4-Xylenol
* Yeast




http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nicotineinhaler/a/cigingredients.htm

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-17-2009, 08:15 PM
we wouldn't have many of those chemicals allowed in our food, so why is it legal to put them in cigarettes?

Uncle Steezo
12-17-2009, 09:38 PM
damn.
but to answer the question...HELL YES.
tobacco is not very harmful in its natural form

diggy
12-17-2009, 10:17 PM
Even if the additives are not added, there is still something wrong with burning a plant and inhaling it's smoke.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-17-2009, 10:23 PM
sure you'll inhale carcinogens whatever you smoke, but we can do without all those toxic chemicals that make the smoke inhaled so damaging to our health.

5hundred&one
12-17-2009, 11:02 PM
newports are so good though, lol.

I'd be willing to bet that the additives are not only worse for your health, but more habit forming too.

I smoke hand rolled cigarettes (100% natural american spirit) now to try and get out of the habit of buying packs and smoking them up. it works well enough for me, I haven't bought a pack in 4 months or so, but whenever I'm around a newport it drives me crazy.

even though I get nicotine, there's somethin about ports that hooked me. I'll still go to the corner store and buy a single a few times a week, even though I smoke a couple hand-rolled cigs a day on average; it's like I got to get my nicotine fix and my newport fix, lol.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-17-2009, 11:59 PM
newports are so good though, lol.

I'd be willing to bet that the additives are not only worse for your health, but more habit forming too.

I smoke hand rolled cigarettes (100% natural american spirit) now to try and get out of the habit of buying packs and smoking them up. it works well enough for me, I haven't bought a pack in 4 months or so, but whenever I'm around a newport it drives me crazy.

even though I get nicotine, there's somethin about ports that hooked me. I'll still go to the corner store and buy a single a few times a week, even though I smoke a couple hand-rolled cigs a day on average; it's like I got to get my nicotine fix and my newport fix, lol.


that's what my nurse said. she's tried the natural american spirit fags and loves them, can't get them over here, though. she bought them when she went to america.

i've had these vietnamese fags my aunt got me, i don't remember the name of them but they were a nice clean tasting smoke.

i managed to give up smoking fags for a couple of weeks a few years back. then i went to one of my girls houses and we both bought a pack of fags. she was trying to quit too, we both used the inhalators, but couldn't resist any longer. that first one i lit up tasted absolutely foul, but i liked the feeling of the smoke in my throat and lungs.

Urban_Journalz
12-18-2009, 09:18 AM
Even if the additives are not added, there is still something wrong with burning a plant and inhaling it's smoke.

My point exactly.

Smoke is foriegn to the body. This is why we all cough when we smoke the first few times and even afterwards. Our bodies detect an intruder and are trying to get rid of it immediately.

The only purpose in smoking anything is to make you forget about your current situation, calm you down, make you feel relaxed, etc. All of this can be done through much safer and healthier means. Even when the ancient shamans and seers would smoke whatever was in thier pipes, they would accompany it with the necessary chants, drums and hymns. So it was for contacting other worlds and beings, not just for the sake of getting fucked up and the only did it when they had to. Even still, they were a long way down on the totem pole because thier predecessors could do such things just by drawing in the proper breath.

The safest cigarettes are the ones that stay unlit and unbought.

Ghost In The 'Lac
12-18-2009, 09:21 AM
yall should wanna try and grow yourself some nicotiana rustica

its another form of tobacco plant, bu the leaves are waaaay more potent and can make you hallucinate

she's tried the natural american spirit fags and loves them, can't get them over here, though. she bought them when she went to america.
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err..yes you can...most shops sell it. 2 places within a mile radius of my current position stock it

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-18-2009, 10:55 AM
i've never seen them.







and i said cigs would be SAFER, i didn't say it would be completely safe. i already said you'd inhale carcinogens whatever you smoke.

Ghost In The 'Lac
12-18-2009, 11:00 AM
youve never seen them....ok, i guessed that part.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-18-2009, 11:44 AM
well, i've never looked or asked for them. i'm just going by what she told me.


cigs should also be cheaper if tobacco companies didn't spend money on all those hundreds of additives.

check two
12-18-2009, 12:37 PM
we wouldn't have many of those chemicals allowed in our food, so why is it legal to put them in cigarettes?

Many harmful substances are allowed to be added to food too.

5hundred&one
12-18-2009, 12:54 PM
Ryback is my favorite rolling tobacco for euros, but I don't think it's all natural. I'm pretty sure rolling tobacco in any form is probably less tampered with than pack cigarettes. I smoke them without filters though, so I'm not sure what extra damage that might be doing.

Still, I smoke two, maybe three a day on average and probably more if I'm drinking or at a party or whatever, and I'd imagine it's way healthier than my pack a day habit I had earlier this year. Something about having a pack makes you think you can smoke for days, I hate that shit,

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-18-2009, 01:17 PM
@ checkers, true but they don't put nearly as many chemicals in food as they do cigs.

@ 501 gold, i've been told there are less chemicals added to rolling tobacco. and use filters when you roll one, it's not hard.

PALEFORCE
12-18-2009, 02:44 PM
i use american spirit rolling papers...100% flax

check two
12-19-2009, 01:48 PM
How come a lot of white people smoke Marlboro and a lot of black people smoke Newport menthols?

PALEFORCE
12-19-2009, 02:00 PM
http://www.blucigs.com/index.php?ref=4118

this is the new shit

V4D3R
12-19-2009, 04:45 PM
It's plain and simple they want to kill 85% of us

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-19-2009, 10:12 PM
How come a lot of white people smoke Marlboro and a lot of black people smoke Newport menthols?

i don't know about anywhere else, but here the chinks (meaning all asians because people here don't bother to differentiate the different types) all love Marlboro. the youngins like Marlboro Lights.



http://www.blucigs.com/index.php?ref=4118

this is the new shit

they're a bit pricey. have you tried them? how do they compare to the inhalators?

http://www.pharmacydiscounter.com/Images/nicorette-inhaler.gif

i've tried the nicotine patches before but they just made me smoke more. when i managed to quit for 2 weeks that time i was using the inhalators.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-19-2009, 10:13 PM
It's plain and simple they want to kill 85% of us



population control?

check two
12-19-2009, 11:43 PM
Yeah, but with the electronic cigarettes, it would be healthier and you can save money cause you can keep recharging them.

Or if you don't mind the killing effects of regular cigarettes, you might as well just smoke asbestos or something. It's probably cheaper and a quicker death.

diggy
12-20-2009, 02:24 AM
It's plain and simple they want to kill 85% of us


People who smoke also want to kill themselves, imo.

hectis
12-20-2009, 06:03 AM
People who smoke also want to kill themselves, imo.

not always true

KLIION JENSEN
12-20-2009, 06:05 AM
sorry to go slightly off topic, but how come Phillies are so expensive these days ?? used to be, i could get a box of 5 for a couple of quid, now they're like 17.95 for 5, what the deal ??

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-20-2009, 07:05 AM
Phillies?

hectis
12-20-2009, 09:16 AM
sorry to go slightly off topic, but how come Phillies are so expensive these days ?? used to be, i could get a box of 5 for a couple of quid, now they're like 17.95 for 5, what the deal ??

because they know why you buy them and they are taking advantage of it they know people are always going to buy them

Phillies?

a cigar used to smoke weed with

KLIION JENSEN
12-20-2009, 10:37 AM
because they know why you buy them and they are taking advantage of it they know people are always going to buy them


greedy bitches.....i moved onto Henri Wintermans 1/2 corona, 1.45 each, but damn they taste good, specially with weed in em...

also, anyone know how i'd go about growing my own tobacco ??

LORD NOSE
12-20-2009, 06:17 PM
People who smoke also want to kill themselves, imo.


and others


and look cool doing it



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what is the benefit of a cigarette ?

KLIION JENSEN
12-20-2009, 06:39 PM
what is the benefit of a cigarette ?


none really, thats one of the reasons for me trying to quit, dont think i'll ever quit smoking weed though...

Mumm Ra
12-20-2009, 07:24 PM
if a person smoked a pack a day and quit, theyd be saving two thousand dollars a year
ridiculous

Face of the Golden Falcon
12-20-2009, 08:08 PM
HETEPU

People who smoke also want to kill themselves, imo.

It's funny and not in a ha ha kinda way, I was thinking the other day how if someone cuts them self or is suicidal we pronounce them mental ill (normally worse terminology is used by most) and often they are looked down upon. We lock them up for their own good. Yet the very same who label these people mentally ill often partake in one or a number of socially acceptable ways to kill one self. Alcohol abuse, smoking, gluttony etc.

I bet if these people were told that the reason they do these things is because they are mentally ill they'd probably get mad.

SHEM HETEP

diggy
12-20-2009, 09:51 PM
HETEPU



It's funny and not in a ha ha kinda way, I was thinking the other day how if someone cuts them self or is suicidal we pronounce them mental ill (normally worse terminology is used by most) and often they are looked down upon. We lock them up for their own good. Yet the very same who label these people mentally ill often partake in one or a number of socially acceptable ways to kill one self. Alcohol abuse, smoking, gluttony etc.

I bet if these people were told that the reason they do these things is because they are mentally ill they'd probably get mad.

SHEM HETEP


I agree.


People who partake in some of these things know they are bad habits, but cannot or will not give it up. It is a mental illness, imo.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ
12-21-2009, 12:21 AM
they would probably argue that we're all gonna die one day anyhow.

J-Cee
12-21-2009, 12:30 AM
It's plain and simple they want to kill 85% of us

truth....Population control.........

PALEFORCE
12-21-2009, 05:43 PM
http://www.blucigs.com/index.php?ref=4118

this is the new shit




they're a bit pricey. have you tried them? how do they compare to the inhalators?

http://www.pharmacydiscounter.com/Images/nicorette-inhaler.gif

i've tried the nicotine patches before but they just made me smoke more. when i managed to quit for 2 weeks that time i was using the inhalators.

theyre actually like 75% cheaper then regular cigarettes after you buy the starter kit so you make your money back quick. i did try them and they feel like regular cigarettes but im not a regular smoker.

WARPATH
12-22-2009, 06:55 PM
Even if the additives are not added, there is still something wrong with burning a plant and inhaling it's smoke.

Use moderation.

My point exactly.

Smoke is foriegn to the body. This is why we all cough when we smoke the first few times and even afterwards. Our bodies detect an intruder and are trying to get rid of it immediately.

The only purpose in smoking anything is to make you forget about your current situation, calm you down, make you feel relaxed, etc. All of this can be done through much safer and healthier means. Even when the ancient shamans and seers would smoke whatever was in thier pipes, they would accompany it with the necessary chants, drums and hymns. So it was for contacting other worlds and beings, not just for the sake of getting fucked up and the only did it when they had to. Even still, they were a long way down on the totem pole because thier predecessors could do such things just by drawing in the proper breath.

The safest cigarettes are the ones that stay unlit and unbought.

The white buffalo calf women brought us the pipe during a hardship in our history so that we can communicate with creator and pray. Please be respectful.